Paedophile warns Sarah's Law may not stop him reoffending
Nigel Oldfield
Aug 9 2010 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury
AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect vulnerable
children – and warned he could strike again.
Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago following
his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah’s Law,
rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop perverts like
him reoffending.
Grosvenor warns he could be sleeping rough because of a lack of police
checks – and admits he has an “80 per cent” chance of striking again.
The new law was named after eight-year-old Sarah Payne, abducted and
murdered by serial paedophile Roy Whiting in 2000.
It was first trialled by Warwickshire Police and is supposed to give
parents the chance to check if anyone with regular access to their
children has child sex offences.
But Grosvenor warned that the law was seriously flawed in a shock
letter to a prison magazine.
“I am sure many of your readers will have heard of the new Sarah’s
Law. I would bet, however, that not many people are aware of just what
a waste of space it is, along with the Sex Offender Register,” he
wrote.
“I wonder how Mrs Payne will feel to learn that, as a convicted
paedophile with more than 40 previous convictions for well in excess
of 200 offences dating back to the 1980s, I was released from prison
in May; homeless, with no supervision whatsoever and no money, save
for the £47 standard discharge grant.
“Despite numerous convictions for violence, sex offences, firearms and
offensive weapons, the authorities seemed perfectly happy to allow me
to walk out of prison with no idea where I was going; content in the
knowledge that probation had categorised me as a high risk to
children, with an 80 per cent chance of re-conviction within a year.
“I ask you, how on earth is that protecting the public?”
The convicted paedophile went on to give a chilling warning to worried
parents following his release from HMP Peterborough.
“Ask yourself this; would you want me sleeping rough in your area? I
think not,” he wrote.
“Yes, I had to report my whereabouts within three days of release, but
I have been told by the police that ‘the park bench’ or ‘the doorway
of Tesco’ are perfectly good addresses to give if I am homeless.
“It would appear that once someone has served their entire sentence
and has no licence, they simply wash their hands of you and accept no
further responsibility for your safe ‘reintegration into society’.”
Sarah’s Law had been operating on a trial basis in Warwickshire since
September 2008, and was judged successful enough to be rolled out to
other forces around the country this year.
It was brought in after public pressure to ensure convicted sex
attackers would be known to parents living nearby, but was amended to
prevent vigilante attacks.
Last week West Midlands and West Mercia Police were included in the
areas covered by Sarah’s Law, along with the Bedfordshire, Norfolk,
Yorkshire, Thames Valley, Essex and Suffolk forces.
A further expansion is planned for the autumn for forces including
Staffordshire, Leicestershire and Gloucestershire.
WM
Paul Hyett
<wmcritica...@googlemail.com> wrote in uk.legal :
>Paedophile warns Sarah's Law may not stop him reoffending
>
>Aug 9 2010 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury
>
>AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect vulnerable
>children – and warned he could strike again.
>
>Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago following
>his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
>
>But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah’s Law,
>rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop perverts like
>him reoffending.
Then I propose a 'Rusty Knife' law... :p
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Phil Stovell
Why can't people who obviously pose a danger be given indeterminate
sentences? He should be in a mental hospital.
Nigel Oldfield
"7/8/2010 Ian Murphy -
I have my doubts that this story is true."
WM
Steve Walker
> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:34:00 +0100, Paul Hyett wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 at 07:31:19, Nigel Oldfield
>> <wmcritica...@googlemail.com> wrote in uk.legal :
>>
>>> Paedophile warns Sarah's Law may not stop him reoffending
>>>
>>> Aug 9 2010 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury
>>>
>>> AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect
>>>
>>> Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago
>>> following his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
>>>
>>> But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah's
>>> Law, rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop
>>> perverts like him reoffending.
>>
>> Then I propose a 'Rusty Knife' law... :p
>
> Why can't people who obviously pose a danger be given indeterminate
> sentences? He should be in a mental hospital.
"An evil paedophile has mocked new laws"... utter bollocks. His point
is that he is being thrown on the street with no support or accommodation,
so disclosing his address is a meaningless threat.
If we were able to provide safe, humane rehabilitation facilities for these
people without kow-towing to NIMBY paedomobs and tabloid ranters, then there
might be half a chance of some of them going straight.
Mentalguy2k8
"Steve Walker" <spam...@beeb.net> wrote in message
news:8cb9p0...@mid.individual.net...
Might have known you'd defend him....
tim....
"Nigel Oldfield" <wmcritica...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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As that isn't the point of the law why is this at all relevant?
tim
Nigel Oldfield
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>
> As that isn't the point of the law why is this at all relevant?
>
> tim
What is the point of it?
WM
Nigel Oldfield
> is that he is being thrown on the street with no support or accommodation,
> so disclosing his address is a meaningless threat.
>
> If we were able to provide safe, humane rehabilitation facilities for these
> people without kow-towing to NIMBY paedomobs and tabloid ranters, then there
> might be half a chance of some of them going straight.
Oh of course, but you know the hacks.
WM
tim....
It's to stop Paedos bonking mothers of small children.
tim
Nigel Oldfield
>
> It's to stop Paedos bonking mothers of small children.
>
> tim
Why, is that illegal?
WM
Christopher Bowlas
> Phil Stovell wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:34:00 +0100, Paul Hyett wrote:
>
> >> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 at 07:31:19, Nigel Oldfield
>
> >>> Paedophile warns Sarah's Law may not stop him reoffending
>
> >>> Aug 9 2010 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury
>
> >>> AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect
> >>> vulnerable children - and warned he could strike again.
>
> >>> Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago
> >>> following his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
>
> >>> But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah's
> >>> Law, rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop
> >>> perverts like him reoffending.
>
> >> Then I propose a 'Rusty Knife' law... :p
>
> > Why can't people who obviously pose a danger be given indeterminate
> > sentences? He should be in a mental hospital.
>
> "An evil paedophile has mocked new laws"... utter bollocks. His point
> is that he is being thrown on the street with no support or accommodation,
> so disclosing his address is a meaningless threat.
>
> If we were able to provide safe, humane rehabilitation facilities for these
> people without kow-towing to NIMBY paedomobs and tabloid ranters, then there
> might be half a chance of some of them going straight.
What if the mobs were properly registered?
MM
wrote:
You'd have to look far and wide for a rusty knife, since they're all
made of stainless steel nowadays. I dug up (in my garden) a wartime
government-issue spoon used in a PoW camp about ten years ago and even
it wasn't rusty in the slightest.
MM
TimB
> "Steve Walker" <spam-t...@beeb.net> wrote in message
>
> news:8cb9p0...@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Phil Stovell wrote:
> >> On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:34:00 +0100, Paul Hyett wrote:
>
> >>> On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 at 07:31:19, Nigel Oldfield
>
> >>>> Paedophile warns Sarah's Law may not stop him reoffending
>
> >>>> Aug 9 2010 by Ben Goldby, Sunday Mercury
>
> >>>> AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect
> >>>> vulnerable children - and warned he could strike again.
>
> >>>> Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago
> >>>> following his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
>
> >>>> But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah's
> >>>> Law, rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop
> >>>> perverts like him reoffending.
>
> >>> Then I propose a 'Rusty Knife' law... :p
>
> >> Why can't people who obviously pose a danger be given indeterminate
> >> sentences? He should be in a mental hospital.
>
> > "An evil paedophile has mocked new laws"... utter bollocks. His point
> > is that he is being thrown on the street with no support or accommodation,
> > so disclosing his address is a meaningless threat.
>
> > If we were able to provide safe, humane rehabilitation facilities for
> > these people without kow-towing to NIMBY paedomobs and tabloid ranters,
> > then there might be half a chance of some of them going straight.
>
> Might have known you'd defend him....
Defending doesn't enter into it. Whatever your opinion of the guy, his
points are valid - a law allowing parents to know if a paedophile is
living in their community is pointless if they don't have somewhere in
the community to live.
Paul Hyett
<ph...@stovell.nospam.org.uk> wrote in uk.legal :
Replace 'mental hospital' with 'coffin'...
--
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
Steve Walker
> "Steve Walker" <spam...@beeb.net> wrote in message
> news:8cb9p0...@mid.individual.net...
>>>>> AN evil paedophile has mocked new laws designed to protect
>>>>> vulnerable children - and warned he could strike again.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Grosvenor was released from prison three months ago
>>>>> following his 40th conviction and 200th offence.
>>>>>
>>>>> But the beast has now put parents on alert by claiming Sarah's
>>>>> Law, rolled out across the Midlands last week, cannot stop
>>>>> perverts like him reoffending.
>> "An evil paedophile has mocked new laws"... utter bollocks. His point
>> is that he is being thrown on the street with no support
>> or accommodation, so disclosing his address is a meaningless
>> threat. If we were able to provide safe, humane rehabilitation facilities
>> for these people without kow-towing to NIMBY paedomobs and tabloid
>> ranters, then there might be half a chance of some of them going
>> straight.
>
> Might have known you'd defend him....
A snide personal insult, is that all you've got? Meh...
Steve Walker
Funniest site ever. I remember when the Police tried to close it.
Mentalguy2k8
It is if there's a law against it
Mentalguy2k8
An observation, not an insult.
Nigel Oldfield
>
> It is if there's a law against it
That is not 'Sarah's Law' though (unless the minor is still in utero,
then it may become so, in time).
"He raped me anally / pre-natally..."
WM
Nigel Oldfield
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q30HY_EhaG0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC8s2OahR-Q
WM
tim....
No.
It's left as an exercise for the reader why this practice is to be
discouraged. (It's perfectly obvious, if you can't see why I suggest you're
pretty dim).
tim
tim....
"TimB" <stok...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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But this isn't a law that does that.
tim
Nigel Oldfield
>
> No.
>
> It's left as an exercise for the reader why this practice is to be
> discouraged. (It's perfectly obvious, if you can't see why I suggest you're
> pretty dim).
Is it? Well I am pretty brainy and I can see no reason why it should
be 'discouraged'.
WM
Nigel Oldfield
> > discouraged.
>
> Paedophobe on the Clapham omnibus?
Paedophilophobe ... you get a lot of them on buses?
WM
Nigel Oldfield
>
>
> That " ... " should be a colon.
'Should'?
WM