alcohol on public transport
onearm
trains (also public transport)?
martin
> why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but not
> trains (also public transport)?
Is it? I didn't know that.
Richard Bird
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> why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but not
> trains (also public transport)?
I thought that this was only if the coach was going to a major sporting
event maybe i am wrong
Brimstone
> why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but
> not trains (also public transport)?
A coach carrying a private party isn't public transport.
onearm
But a National Express coach carrying members of the public who pay a
fare is a public service vehicle.
Brimstone
Indeed, it's a stage carriage service, just like the local bus.
peterwn
> why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but not
> trains (also public transport)?
Because they operate under different Acts of Parliament. As the driver
and passengers are in a common space on a coach, drunkedness is more
likely to affect safety than with a train.
AlanG
>why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but not
>trains (also public transport)?
The answer is it isn't
Bill
> why is it illegal to drink alcohol on coaches (public transport) but not
> trains (also public transport)?
Someone had better tell the railway companies - admittedly it's been
about a year since I've been on one, but I certainly enjoyed a nice
bottle of red wine on the east coast line last year - purchased in the
onboard restaurant...
Ian Jackson
<7c36ed70-8eb6-4253...@q14g2000vbi.googlegroups.com>,
Bill <jbrews...@googlemail.com> writes
Yes, but that was THEIR red wine, sold to you at THEIR price, and drunk
by you in conditions where they could keep an eye on you in case you got
tipsy and stroppy.
--
Ian
Brimstone
I suspect you've missed the double(ish) negative. ;-)
onearm
I can find a lot of stuff about carrying people to sports events. But I
can't find anything about the National Express posters. They used to say
it was against their T&Cs, but now they say it's illegal (since June?
2008); have they just got something wrong, or are they just hoping
ignorance will make their T&Cs seem firmer?
onearm
Note I say that it is not illegal to drink on trains. I'm asking why you
can drink on trains but not coaches (and this is coaches operating as
public transport, not private hire coaches.)
onearm
I'm guessing that being drunk on a train is covered by similar laws as
being drunk in any public space. But National Express posters (eg in
Victoria) say that it's illegal to drink any alcohol on their coaches.
I can understand a driver making a mistake with on-coach announcements,
but a large national company having a poster commissioned, designed,
approved, printed, displayed, etc seems to have many more levels of error
checking.
Brimstone
So you mean stage carriage buses? Parliament makes the rules for road
traffic. The railways make their own rules since they operate over their own
road.
Jonathan Bryce
> I can find a lot of stuff about carrying people to sports events. But I
> can't find anything about the National Express posters. They used to say
> it was against their T&Cs, but now they say it's illegal (since June?
> 2008); have they just got something wrong, or are they just hoping
> ignorance will make their T&Cs seem firmer?
There are "no alcohol" orders for specific train services, and this National
Express service might be one of them. The last three trains at night from
where I live have these orders due to a history of trouble on them. They
also get introduced for trains taking people to and from certain sporting
events.
onearm
> There are "no alcohol" orders for specific train services, and this
> National Express service might be one of them.
National Express seem to say that it applies to all of their services.