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allantracy
Nov 9, 2012, 1:19:56 PM11/9/12
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What more can you say Danny Blanchflower, named after the footballer
who incidentally played on the right.
A Labour economist well there's an oxymoron (or perhaps just moron
will do).
Under Labour, he sat on the BoE monetary policy committee where he was
able to totally ignore the UK housing market on its f**kwiited mission
towards banking collapse and presumably pass on other good ideas to
his mate Gordon.
We've long since got used to the bankrupt left and the Labour party
being reduced to building a whole ideology based on being against
everything and for nothing but I hadn't realise in Danny's case they
were giving out PhDs for it.
Simultaneously triumphing Obama's economic policies and lambasting
Osborne's as the greatest economic error of the century Danny's only
positive contribution, by way of ay alternative, was to call for the
government to get on and build a new London airport.
Come on Danny, with the best will in the world a new airport, bankers
taxes and flogging off communications bandwidth - in Labour's case ten
times over, least that's how many different ways to spend it (and
counting) they've already come up with.
Is that really going to do anything more than tinker around the edges
of austerity?
But the best was Danny using the K word (Keynes) to justify borrowing
as a way out of economic oblivion.
Even an ignoramus like Brown and his Labour pals, whilst busy
borrowing off all the bad news, were never ever stupid enough to dare
to use the K word.
Crikey what was your PhD in Danny - missing the point?
Danny then chastised Jane Moore for daring to take a homespun
'housewife economics' take on the world declaring that a national
economy just isn't the same as a household economy.
No Danny it's ten times worse.
Come on leftie boys (and girls) you can't just keep on getting away
with this where is your plan B?
Obama has got away with spending (borrowing) - for now - though come
the next US election, up to his eyeballs in a debt crisis, they'll be
voting for anything on the right, even a black female gay transvestite
atheist if need be.
The last question what is the lesson to be learned here in the UK by
Obama's victory?
Well one might be that, stuck deep in a depression, it doesn't
necessarily mean the incumbent party gets booted out. Something Labour
might take note of as they complacently sit back for things to get bad
enough for all the voters to come running back to them.
who incidentally played on the right.
A Labour economist well there's an oxymoron (or perhaps just moron
will do).
Under Labour, he sat on the BoE monetary policy committee where he was
able to totally ignore the UK housing market on its f**kwiited mission
towards banking collapse and presumably pass on other good ideas to
his mate Gordon.
We've long since got used to the bankrupt left and the Labour party
being reduced to building a whole ideology based on being against
everything and for nothing but I hadn't realise in Danny's case they
were giving out PhDs for it.
Simultaneously triumphing Obama's economic policies and lambasting
Osborne's as the greatest economic error of the century Danny's only
positive contribution, by way of ay alternative, was to call for the
government to get on and build a new London airport.
Come on Danny, with the best will in the world a new airport, bankers
taxes and flogging off communications bandwidth - in Labour's case ten
times over, least that's how many different ways to spend it (and
counting) they've already come up with.
Is that really going to do anything more than tinker around the edges
of austerity?
But the best was Danny using the K word (Keynes) to justify borrowing
as a way out of economic oblivion.
Even an ignoramus like Brown and his Labour pals, whilst busy
borrowing off all the bad news, were never ever stupid enough to dare
to use the K word.
Crikey what was your PhD in Danny - missing the point?
Danny then chastised Jane Moore for daring to take a homespun
'housewife economics' take on the world declaring that a national
economy just isn't the same as a household economy.
No Danny it's ten times worse.
Come on leftie boys (and girls) you can't just keep on getting away
with this where is your plan B?
Obama has got away with spending (borrowing) - for now - though come
the next US election, up to his eyeballs in a debt crisis, they'll be
voting for anything on the right, even a black female gay transvestite
atheist if need be.
The last question what is the lesson to be learned here in the UK by
Obama's victory?
Well one might be that, stuck deep in a depression, it doesn't
necessarily mean the incumbent party gets booted out. Something Labour
might take note of as they complacently sit back for things to get bad
enough for all the voters to come running back to them.
Halmyre
Nov 9, 2012, 1:24:16 PM11/9/12
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Judging by the rest of your post, fuck-all worthy of consideration.
Please leave uk.media.tv.misc alone.
--
Halmyre
Please leave uk.media.tv.misc alone.
--
Halmyre
totallyconfused
Nov 9, 2012, 1:25:46 PM11/9/12
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On Nov 9, 6:19 pm, allantracy <allanbintr...@ireland.com> wrote:
answers 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?' to be quite
poor; listen to minorities and women more, blah blah blah. That was
not the point. I love Shirley Williams, but even she let me down.
TC
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 2:53:37 PM11/9/12
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>'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
"debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness of
his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of them
stand for.
Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this
crap.
allantracy
Nov 9, 2012, 2:59:59 PM11/9/12
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>
> I found last nights' show every annoying. I particularly found the
> answers 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?' to be quite
> poor; listen to minorities and women more, blah blah blah. That was
> not the point. I love Shirley Williams, but even she let me down.
>
The Hispanics, the ethnic minority that got Obama elected, are natural
> I found last nights' show every annoying. I particularly found the
> answers 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?' to be quite
> poor; listen to minorities and women more, blah blah blah. That was
> not the point. I love Shirley Williams, but even she let me down.
>
Republicans, the Republican party must have seriously pissed them off
for them to vote for Obama.
Elsewise, Obama's decision to bailout their car industry was an
electoral bribe, that clearly worked well, however that's a one trick
pony.
We in the UK could have told them, only too well from our experience,
that that's a hiding to f**k all if ever there was.
Let's see how keen they are on the same inevitable bailouts ten years
down the line.
Obama has nowhere left to go on the economy whether the Yanks like it
or not there's no more borrowing so they're going to get an austerity
budget, whether they voted for it or not, and the burning question
that begs - what was all that Obama fiscal stimulus borrowing all for.
Keynes would be turning in is urn (he was cremated apparently).
GordonD
Nov 9, 2012, 3:04:27 PM11/9/12
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Breakfast TV yesterday said that the election cost half the amount that
Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
--
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Edinburgh, Scotland
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."
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Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 3:06:05 PM11/9/12
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Obama won because "people gave him the benefit of the doubt" and "his
management of the aftermath of Sandy". By "management" I assume they mean
turning up at random places with a handful of pizzas and a
photo-opportunity, then buggering off again.
It's a shame that so many Americans need to be spoon-fed their own opinions.
It doesn't seem to matter that they're trillions in debt, they'll vote for
whoever looks better on TV in the week leading up to voting. Typically
American retarded and superficial thinking, priorities all wrong, style over
substance. The largest number of obese people in the world, but as long as
you have straight and white teeth, you're fine.
allantracy
Nov 9, 2012, 3:13:50 PM11/9/12
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>
> The BBC took a break from partying and hanging out bunting to tell us that
> Obama won because "people gave him the benefit of the doubt" and "his
> management of the aftermath of Sandy". By "management" I assume they mean
> turning up at random places with a handful of pizzas and a
> photo-opportunity, then buggering off again.
>
> It's a shame that so many Americans need to be spoon-fed their own opinions.
> It doesn't seem to matter that they're trillions in debt, they'll vote for
> whoever looks better on TV in the week leading up to voting. Typically
> American retarded and superficial thinking, priorities all wrong, style over
> substance. The largest number of obese people in the world, but as long as
> you have straight and white teeth, you're fine.
The Yanks normally grant a President a second term then it all goes
> The BBC took a break from partying and hanging out bunting to tell us that
> Obama won because "people gave him the benefit of the doubt" and "his
> management of the aftermath of Sandy". By "management" I assume they mean
> turning up at random places with a handful of pizzas and a
> photo-opportunity, then buggering off again.
>
> It's a shame that so many Americans need to be spoon-fed their own opinions.
> It doesn't seem to matter that they're trillions in debt, they'll vote for
> whoever looks better on TV in the week leading up to voting. Typically
> American retarded and superficial thinking, priorities all wrong, style over
> substance. The largest number of obese people in the world, but as long as
> you have straight and white teeth, you're fine.
pear shaped for them in the second term.
Obama's trump card always was that he wasn't President when the banks
went tits up, even so the popular vote was very close, not that he
need care about that anymore.
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 3:22:12 PM11/9/12
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> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jn1a$fnm$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>>
>> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a
>> candidate based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>>
>> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
>> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness of
>> his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of
>> them stand for.
>>
>> Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this
>> crap.
>
>
> Breakfast TV yesterday said that the election cost half the amount that
> Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
That's like saying that people in the UK spend more on fireworks than MPs
> news:k7jn1a$fnm$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>>'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>>
>> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a
>> candidate based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>>
>> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
>> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness of
>> his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of
>> them stand for.
>>
>> Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this
>> crap.
>
>
> Breakfast TV yesterday said that the election cost half the amount that
> Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
have ever fiddled on expenses. People choose how to spend their own money,
they can't choose how the Government spend/steal/waste it.
The US spent almost $6 billion, *120* times what the UK did on our last
General Election. Would any of us be happy to fork out 23 times as much as
we already do per person, for our own parties to campaign?
®i©ardo
Nov 9, 2012, 3:26:10 PM11/9/12
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On 09/11/2012 19:53, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
>
> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>
> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a
> candidate based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>
> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness
> of his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of
> them stand for.
>
And how DID Nick Clegg get where he is today...?
>
> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>
> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a
> candidate based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>
> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness
> of his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of
> them stand for.
>
> Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this
> crap.
Moving things in still pictures
®i©ardo
Nov 9, 2012, 3:26:30 PM11/9/12
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with the ideal left wing credentials of having had a privileged
education which she has done her best to ensure is denied to others who
never had the advantages OF her social background! As a class one
hypocrite how can she possibly be letting anyone down.
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 3:30:18 PM11/9/12
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I was amused to hear the BBC waffling on about "the Hispanic vote" like they
vote in some huge bloc, incapable of forming their own personal opinions.
Some people have commented that certain sections of US society will always
vote for whoever offers the biggest suck of the welfare tit.
>
> I found last nights' show every annoying. I particularly found the
> answers 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?' to be quite
> poor; listen to minorities and women more, blah blah blah. That was
> not the point. I love Shirley Williams, but even she let me down.
>
>The Hispanics, the ethnic minority that got Obama elected, are natural
>Republicans, the Republican party must have seriously pissed them off
>for them to vote for Obama.
They'll always vote for the guy who isn't a cracker, no matter what.
> I found last nights' show every annoying. I particularly found the
> answers 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?' to be quite
> poor; listen to minorities and women more, blah blah blah. That was
> not the point. I love Shirley Williams, but even she let me down.
>
>The Hispanics, the ethnic minority that got Obama elected, are natural
>Republicans, the Republican party must have seriously pissed them off
>for them to vote for Obama.
I was amused to hear the BBC waffling on about "the Hispanic vote" like they
vote in some huge bloc, incapable of forming their own personal opinions.
Some people have commented that certain sections of US society will always
vote for whoever offers the biggest suck of the welfare tit.
pull...@yahoo.com
Nov 9, 2012, 3:33:04 PM11/9/12
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What lessons from the Obama victory? Build a client state.
totallyconfused
Nov 9, 2012, 3:39:23 PM11/9/12
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>
> - Show quoted text -
Actually, l like Shirley Williams because she does mean what she says
and says it. I don't agree with her, but i COMPLETELY respect the way
she does express herself! I have only met her once in person and she
was a true lady.
TC
Likewise, I hear thought the grapevine that the Queen is a socialist.
What would happen if people didn't bow down to her other than some bad
press.
allantracy
Nov 9, 2012, 3:47:30 PM11/9/12
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>
> These lefties on QT know how to play to the gallery, you've got to admit they are good at it. Mention the posh and bankers and tax cut for the rich and you know you have a winning hand. In contrast Damian Green reminded me of the White Rabbit frazzled and running deeper down the rabbit hole.
>
He wasn't a good choice for the Tories when most of the panel was
> These lefties on QT know how to play to the gallery, you've got to admit they are good at it. Mention the posh and bankers and tax cut for the rich and you know you have a winning hand. In contrast Damian Green reminded me of the White Rabbit frazzled and running deeper down the rabbit hole.
>
straight out of the Guardian.
Then how the f**k was that a representative audience of Bexhill?
Bexhill is solid Tory but that audience sounded as if it had been
bussed in from Brighton.
When Jane Moore commented how the living wage concept was hardly doing
small business a favour, in these desperate times, you could hear all
the groans, telling you for sure it was an audience full of haven't a
clues from planet Moneytree.
allantracy
Nov 9, 2012, 3:55:54 PM11/9/12
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>
> Actually, l like Shirley Williams because she does mean what she says
> and says it. I don't agree with her, but i COMPLETELY respect the way
> she does express herself! I have only met her once in person and she
> was a true lady.
>
It's hard not to like her and that goes for many on the left but wooly
> Actually, l like Shirley Williams because she does mean what she says
> and says it. I don't agree with her, but i COMPLETELY respect the way
> she does express herself! I have only met her once in person and she
> was a true lady.
>
is a fair description.
Never better exemplified than by her comprehensive schools policy
which replaced the cruelty of selection by ability with the wickedness
of selection by wealth.
A system other social democratic paradises, like Germany, flirted with
but soon dumped.
To this day Germany selects and BMW prospers.
abelard
Nov 9, 2012, 4:02:58 PM11/9/12
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:39:23 -0800 (PST), totallyconfused
<lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Actually, l like Shirley Williams because she does mean what she says
>and says it. I don't agree with her, but i COMPLETELY respect the way
>she does express herself!
so she's a socialist who doesn't lie....a phenomenon indeed...
<lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Actually, l like Shirley Williams because she does mean what she says
>and says it. I don't agree with her, but i COMPLETELY respect the way
>she does express herself!
do you also like willie sutton...because he was an allegedly
honest thief?
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 4:19:46 PM11/9/12
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"®i©ardo" <he...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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talking a lot of sense until you kick yourself.
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 4:23:54 PM11/9/12
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spent doing what will get you re-elected and the second 4 years is spent
doing what your financial backers/lobbyists wanted you to do in the first
place. Which, as you say, tends to go tits up very quickly and certainly
wouldn't be tolerated in the first 4 years. But the President doesn't care,
he's off.
> >
>> The BBC took a break from partying and hanging out bunting to tell us
>> that
>> Obama won because "people gave him the benefit of the doubt" and "his
>> management of the aftermath of Sandy". By "management" I assume they mean
>> turning up at random places with a handful of pizzas and a
>> photo-opportunity, then buggering off again.
>>
>> It's a shame that so many Americans need to be spoon-fed their own
>> opinions.
>> It doesn't seem to matter that they're trillions in debt, they'll vote
>> for
>> whoever looks better on TV in the week leading up to voting. Typically
>> American retarded and superficial thinking, priorities all wrong, style
>> over
>> substance. The largest number of obese people in the world, but as long
>> as
>> you have straight and white teeth, you're fine.
>
> The Yanks normally grant a President a second term then it all goes
> pear shaped for them in the second term.
Yeah, the trouble with US presidencies is that the first 4 years is mostly
>> The BBC took a break from partying and hanging out bunting to tell us
>> that
>> Obama won because "people gave him the benefit of the doubt" and "his
>> management of the aftermath of Sandy". By "management" I assume they mean
>> turning up at random places with a handful of pizzas and a
>> photo-opportunity, then buggering off again.
>>
>> It's a shame that so many Americans need to be spoon-fed their own
>> opinions.
>> It doesn't seem to matter that they're trillions in debt, they'll vote
>> for
>> whoever looks better on TV in the week leading up to voting. Typically
>> American retarded and superficial thinking, priorities all wrong, style
>> over
>> substance. The largest number of obese people in the world, but as long
>> as
>> you have straight and white teeth, you're fine.
>
> The Yanks normally grant a President a second term then it all goes
> pear shaped for them in the second term.
spent doing what will get you re-elected and the second 4 years is spent
doing what your financial backers/lobbyists wanted you to do in the first
place. Which, as you say, tends to go tits up very quickly and certainly
wouldn't be tolerated in the first 4 years. But the President doesn't care,
he's off.
Mentalguy2k8
Nov 9, 2012, 4:28:09 PM11/9/12
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<pull...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>These lefties on QT know how to play to the gallery,
liberals, trades unionists, minorities, militants and various other
anti-Tory malcontents.
pull...@yahoo.com
Nov 9, 2012, 5:36:43 PM11/9/12
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JNugent
Nov 9, 2012, 5:37:35 PM11/9/12
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On 09/11/2012 20:04, GordonD wrote:
> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jn1a$fnm$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>>
>> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a candidate
>> based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>>
>> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
>> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness of
>> his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of them
>> stand for.
>>
>> Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this crap.
>
>
> Breakfast TV yesterday said that the election cost half the amount that
> Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
And they spend a LOT on that.
> "Mentalguy2k8" <Mental...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:k7jn1a$fnm$1...@dont-email.me...
>>
>> "totallyconfused" <lisab...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:715d2e2d-9d8f-4c02...@v3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> 'what can the Uk learn from the USA elections?'
>>
>> That it's healthy and right (and not racist at all) to vote for a candidate
>> based on the colour of his skin. Unless he's white.
>>
>> And that the American people have to be shown a series of X-Factor style
>> "debates" where they can choose their favourite based on the whiteness of
>> his teeth because they're too fucking ignorant to know what either of them
>> stand for.
>>
>> Oh, and it's fine during a recession to blow billions of dollars on this crap.
>
>
> Breakfast TV yesterday said that the election cost half the amount that
> Americans spend on Halloween costumes.
totallyconfused
Nov 9, 2012, 6:37:06 PM11/9/12
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told me...good for you. I stated straight out that a) I put my kids
in private primary school and used it for the 11 plus/Grammar School
system. b) my older two children did pass the old '11 plus'. c) due
to no support-nothing to do with me-just encouragement, the children
did it. d)My ex had 4 (yes) 4 more children. I see no reaon to say
more: he thinks he is owed.
i am the MOTHER: I have always paid the bills; I have alwalys made
sure what needs to be done is done. She just was lovely and so was F
Nelson,,they were so nice to me.
Osric
Nov 10, 2012, 8:07:13 AM11/10/12
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Osric
THE BORDERS OF MY COUNTRY
RUN AROUND THE SOLES OF MY FEET
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 9:11:39 AM11/11/12
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>
> Oh I know, Tories should boycott it and anyone from the right. Just setting themselves up as Aunt Sallys.
>
Labour get away with blue murder on the BBC, tax cut for millionaires
> Oh I know, Tories should boycott it and anyone from the right. Just setting themselves up as Aunt Sallys.
>
they scream when actually it kicks in at £150K.
So, what is it that is so evil about someone working hard, learning to
take responsibility for say open heart surgery or flying an Airbus
A380 packed with 600 plus passengers, being paid well and then allowed
to keep the proceeds?
All this whilst the hypocritical bastards refuse to commit to
reversing the high rate tax cut if they are returned to power.
Then we all live in anticipation of the day when Labour agree to one
single f**king spending cut in order to pay off the trillion pound
debt they built up.
No one at the BBC ever asks the bleeding obvious question of them, "
Well what the f**k would you cut?"
No they're just allowed to take occupancy of the moral high ground,
all principles in tact by virtue of never getting their own hands
dirty.
Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
buy-to-lets.
Jacob Von Hogflume
Nov 11, 2012, 9:15:30 AM11/11/12
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appropriate.
pull...@yahoo.com
Nov 11, 2012, 9:50:05 AM11/11/12
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allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 9:54:45 AM11/11/12
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>
> Why not change your name to Greedy Fucking Bastard. It would be far more
> appropriate.
>
Ah I see the state takes two thirds of everything we earn, even off
> Why not change your name to Greedy Fucking Bastard. It would be far more
> appropriate.
>
the lowest paid, indeed, depending on lifestyle, even off the
unemployed.
Why is the word greedy never applied to the state?
Judith
Nov 11, 2012, 11:58:39 AM11/11/12
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 10:19:56 -0800 (PST), allantracy <allanb...@ireland.com>
wrote:
>What more can you say Danny Blanchflower, named after the footballer
>who incidentally played on the right.
He must have been good : you listened to every word and then started frothing -
what more could one ask for.
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>What more can you say Danny Blanchflower, named after the footballer
>who incidentally played on the right.
what more could one ask for.
Judith
Nov 11, 2012, 12:06:33 PM11/11/12
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:47:30 -0800 (PST), allantracy <allanb...@ireland.com>
wrote:
>>
Unless of course those people who you think were solid Tories and made Bexhill
solid Tory, are also just a little bit fed up now at having their nuts squeezed
by the Condems.
wrote:
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solid Tory, are also just a little bit fed up now at having their nuts squeezed
by the Condems.
Judith
Nov 11, 2012, 12:11:07 PM11/11/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:11:39 -0800 (PST), allantracy
<allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>buy-to-lets.
Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and square -
they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if they
hadn't.
So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not trust
a Tory government.
<allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
<snip>
>Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>buy-to-lets.
they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if they
hadn't.
So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not trust
a Tory government.
Ophelia
Nov 11, 2012, 12:26:24 PM11/11/12
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"Judith" <jmsmi...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:11:39 -0800 (PST), allantracy
> <allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>>own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>>the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>>buy-to-lets.
>
>
>
> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and
> <allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>
>>Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>>own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>>the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>>buy-to-lets.
>
>
>
> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and
> quare -
> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if
> they
> hadn't.
>
> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not
> trust
> a Tory government.
Yep!
> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if
> they
> hadn't.
>
> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not
> trust
> a Tory government.
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®i©ardo
Nov 11, 2012, 2:55:02 PM11/11/12
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should that be bribes - could not be sustained if a more responsible
party came to power. They thought that Gordie would be able to conjure
up more magic money out of thin air.
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 3:24:58 PM11/11/12
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>
> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and square -
> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if they
> hadn't.
>
> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not trust
> a Tory government.
Just you wait till those dodgy constituency boundaries, worth a six
> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and square -
> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now if they
> hadn't.
>
> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not trust
> a Tory government.
point advantage to Labour, are fixed.
Thanks to that advantage, Blair was able to form a majority government
on a much smaller proportion of the popular vote than Cameron won last
time.
Once those boundaries are fixed, it's not inconceivable that Cameron
could actually win an overall majority even if he wins fewer votes
next time.
More to the point, Labour should be asking themselves how, despite
that advantage, they achieved a worse result than Michael Foot
managed.
Three huge mistakes Labour are making, towards the next election, the
first that all the grief currently being handed out will automatically
have the electorate running back to Labour and the second that Labour
didn't lose as badly at the last election as they had expected, when
they really did.
The there's the third howler - that somehow all that fallout in the
LibDem vote is going to transfer to Labour. Well, yes, they're right
but mostly in seats where Labour stands no chance so who is that going
to help?
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 3:44:46 PM11/11/12
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>
> Mainly because a lot of them realised that all the "freebies" - or
> should that be bribes - could not be sustained if a more responsible
> party came to power. They thought that Gordie would be able to conjure
> up more magic money out of thin air.
>
You can sum up the good stuff in New Labour's time by civil
> Mainly because a lot of them realised that all the "freebies" - or
> should that be bribes - could not be sustained if a more responsible
> party came to power. They thought that Gordie would be able to conjure
> up more magic money out of thin air.
>
partnerships and that's it, their only lasting legacy, the only thing
they left behind that won't be (or have to be) undone.
Seriously, does anyone know of anything else?
An independent BoE was an excellent idea but unfortunately implemented
by a complete idiot, whose primary aim was to overheat the financial
services sector in search of tax revenues.
Then we had cheap mass immigration, creating an underclass of epic
proportions, on the grounds that both immigrants and welfare claimants
make excellent Labour voters.
Then, just to make sure, another million extra public sector jobs
filled by people with a vested interest in voting Labour.
An attempt to change the face of Britain and one huge gerrymandering
exercise, just one problem all the f**king money ran out.
I tell you, Labour may get back in, though it's hardly looking good
when they're way less popular in the polls now than Kinnock was
managing mid-term.
But one thing is for sure, if they don't win then they will implode,
finished as a political force, because they face decades of an
electorate, where the vast majority will be well old enough to
remember at least one piss poor Labour government, that aren't about
to be fooled again.
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 3:53:36 PM11/11/12
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>
> >What more can you say Danny Blanchflower, named after the footballer
> >who incidentally played on the right.
>
> He must have been good : you listened to every word and then started frothing -
> what more could one ask for.
The idea of an economist on QT is to tell us what we should be doing
> >What more can you say Danny Blanchflower, named after the footballer
> >who incidentally played on the right.
>
> He must have been good : you listened to every word and then started frothing -
> what more could one ask for.
not just to sit there and slag off Osborne, that's the Labour guy's
job.
He's a PhD for f**ks sake he should know that slagging off someone
else's idea, without having any constructive ones of your own is
intellectually bankrupt.
Perhaps, he was just being defensive, considering he spent over a
decade within the engine room of a financial sector that imploded.
He was one of the bankers that f**ked up and just because your a
Labour one doesn't get you off the hook, the way he seems to think it
does.
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 3:57:15 PM11/11/12
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P.S. He doesn't do much telly the fact he chose to surface on QT
speaks volumes.
He got a very easy ride for one culpable up to his eyeballs, together
with his mate Global Gordon, in the collapse of the banking sector.
The impartial BBC should be ashamed.
allantracy
Nov 11, 2012, 4:03:15 PM11/11/12
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>
> Unless of course those people who you think were solid Tories and made Bexhill
> solid Tory, are also just a little bit fed up now at having their nuts squeezed
> by the Condems.
Hardly, the opinion polls currently give Labour, at best, an eleven
> Unless of course those people who you think were solid Tories and made Bexhill
> solid Tory, are also just a little bit fed up now at having their nuts squeezed
> by the Condems.
point lead - even Kinnock managed a twenty point lead mid-term.
There's is a view that the worse it gets, the more the grief gets
handed out, just serves to reinforce, in the eyes of the electorate,
the extent of the monumental f**k up Labour presided over.
Just ask the Republicans in the US about that.
Ophelia
Nov 12, 2012, 7:18:09 AM11/12/12
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"�i�ardo" <he...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On 11/11/2012 17:11, Judith wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:11:39 -0800 (PST), allantracy
>> <allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>> Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>>> own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>>> the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>>> buy-to-lets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and
>> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 06:11:39 -0800 (PST), allantracy
>> <allanb...@ireland.com> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>
>>> Typical middle class lefties, full of guilt hand wringing about their
>>> own good fortune in life but never quite enough to take one eye off
>>> the unit trust yields or the going rate rent they're charging on their
>>> buy-to-lets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes - it is a pity that the Tories lost the last election fair and
>> quare -
>> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now
>> if they
>> hadn't.
>>
>> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not
>> trust
>> a Tory government.
>>
>
> Mainly because a lot of them realised that all the "freebies" - or should
> that be bribes - could not be sustained if a more responsible party came
> to power. They thought that Gordie would be able to conjure up more magic
> money out of thin air.
Aye, and we all know where that left us!
>> they would really have been able to shit on us all even more than now
>> if they
>> hadn't.
>>
>> So all of those years of Labour misrule - and the voters *still* did not
>> trust
>> a Tory government.
>>
>
> Mainly because a lot of them realised that all the "freebies" - or should
> that be bribes - could not be sustained if a more responsible party came
> to power. They thought that Gordie would be able to conjure up more magic
> money out of thin air.
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