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msk2000

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Nov 2, 2007, 8:49:42 PM11/2/07
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not, however, moved by the miracle that had just happened before their
very eyes. But Allah said: "O fire, be coolness and peace for
Abraham". (Koran xxi.69)
The people waited until the fire had completely died down, and it was
then that they saw Abraham still sitting there as though nothing had
happened! At that moment they were utterly confused. They were
Still Abraham tried to persuade his own dear father, who was named
Azar, not to worship powerless, un-seeing, un-hearing statues. Abraham
explained that special knowledge had come to him and implored his
father, 'So follow me and I will lead you on the right path. O my
father! Don't serve the Devil.' But Azar would not listen. He
threatened his son with stoning if he continued to reject the gods of
Ur. He ordered Abraham to leave the city with these words: 'Depart
from me a long while.' Abraham said, 'Peace be upon you! I shall ask
my Lord's forgiveness for you. Surely He was ever gracious to
me.' (Koran xix.43-7)
Imagine how terrible it must have been for him to leave his home,
his family and all that he knew, and set out across the wilderness
into the unknown. But at the same time, how could he have remained
among people who did not believe in Allah and who worshipped statues?
Abraham always had a sense that Allah cared for him and he felt Allah
near him as he traveled. At last, after a long hard journey, he
arrived at a place by the Mediterranean Sea, not far from Egypt. There
he married a noble woman by the name of Sarah and settled in the land
of Palestine. Many years passed but Abraham and his wife were not
blessed with any children. In the hope that there would be a child,
and in keeping with tradition, Sarah suggested that Abraham should
marry Hagar, her Egyptian handmaid. Soon after this took place, Hagar
had a little boy named Ishmael. Some time later Allah promised Abraham
another son, but this time the mother of the child would be his first
wife, Sarah. This second son would be called Isaac. Allah also told
Abraham that from his two sons-Ishmael and Isaac-two nations and three
messages would be founded and because of this he must take Hagar and
Ishmael away from Palestine to a new land.
These events were an important part of Allah's plan, for the
descendants of Ishmael would form a nation from which would come a
great Prophet, who would guide the people in the way of Allah. This
was to be Muhammad (pbuh), the Messenger of Allah (pbuh). From the
descendants of Sarah's child, Isaac, would come Moses and Jesus.
So it was that Abraham, Hagar, and Ishmael left Palestine. They
traveled for many days until finally they reached the arid valley of
Bacca ( later to be called Mecca), which was on one of the great
caravan routes. There was no water in the valley and although Hagar
and Ishmael only had a small supply of water left, Abraham left them
there knowing Allah would take care of them. Soon all the water was
gone. The child began to grow weak from thirst. There were two hills
nearby, one called Safa and the other Marwah. Hagar went up one hill
and looked into the distance to see if she could find any water,
but found none. So she went to the other hill and did the same. She
did this seven times. Then sadly she returned to her son, and to her
great surprise and joy she found a spring of water bubbling out of the
earth near him. This spring, near which the mother and child settled,
was later called Zamzam. The area around it became a place of rest for
the caravans travelling across the desert and in time grew into the
famous trading city of Mecca.
>From time to time Abraham traveled from Palestine to visit his family
and he saw Ishmael grow into a strong young man. It was during one of
these visits that Allah commanded them to rebuild the Ka'bah-the very
first place where people had worshipped Allah. They were told exactly
where and how to build it. It was to be erected by the well of Zamzam
and built in the shape of a cube. In its eastern corner was to be
placed a black stone that had fallen to earth from heaven. An angel
brought the stone to them from the nearby hill of Abu Qubays

ishta...@ntlworld.com

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Nov 2, 2007, 9:11:55 PM11/2/07
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Yeah I know it's very sad when people believe in an arbitrary body of
writings and say that an arbitrary body of writings is more important
than other writings.

It's even sadder when people assume that "scholars" know more than we
know, and are not working for the ruling group...........

It's an outrageous position to adopt - to suggest that one body of
writing is somehow more important than other documents.

How on earth could such a suggestion ever arise?

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SEX SCANDAL
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I would like to exercise my right of reply by speaking candidly to the
Catholic priests and the Irish Christian Brothers, who worked so hard
to keep me in ignorance for so long with their survivalist rules and
doctrines, which are 2,600 years out of date. These rules and beliefs
ceased to have any validity when the vegetation grew back for the last
time, 2,600 years ago.

The Christian religion is easy to explain. It's an illegitimate,
bastard religion, embarrassingly wedded to Judaism. At its heart is a
major sex scandal, which has yet to make the front pages of the
tabloids.

There was a poleshift (=the end of the world = near collision with the
Virgin Mary / Ishtar / Star of Bethlehem) around 1,400 BC and again
around 700 BC. Your parents and teachers will not tell you this and
you wont read it in any 'official' history book - for reasons to be
explained soon. But yes, there was a poleshift around 3,400 years ago
and again around 2,700 years ago. The astronomer-priests thus formed
the opinion that poleshifts were coming in 700-year cycles. Thus 2,000
years ago, the Middle East was in a frenzy. Those 'in the know'
expected the Virgin Mary / Ishtar / Star of Bethlehem to come again,
and to cause earthquakes and tidal waves that would sweep away the
Roman Empire. The consensus was that whichever enterprising young man
in Palestine could succeed in convincing the populace that he was the
heir of King David and thereby entitled to inherit the throne when the
Roman authority structure collapsed, was on a winning ticket. There
were about half a dozen major factions in Palestine at the time, vying
with each other to seize power after the expected catastrophe, each
with their own front man (preacher) and their respective upper class
backers, who had been promised a share of the spoils if their man
won.

The names of two prominent contenders for the throne have come down to
us - Jesus and John the Baptist. The stakes were high. This was for
real. When it became clear that John the Baptist was going to win, the
Jesus faction put out a contract on him. The assassination of John the
Baptist showed just how ruthless the Jesus faction was prepared to be
in its bid for power. It was an ancient equivalent of the murder of
Bobby Kennedy in 1968. Like John the Baptist, Bob Kennedy would have
become 'king' if they hadn't 'hit' him. Decades later, when passions
had died down, the infiltrators (gospel writers) tried to put a gloss
on what had been a mafia-style 'hit' on John the Baptist. A legacy of
this ancient gangsterism survives today in the obscure religious sects
who - quite aware of what happened - revere John the Baptist in
preference to Jesus. John the Baptist (relatively speaking) was the
good guy who had to be 'hit,' to stop him becoming king, just like
Bobby Kennedy, who - all considered - was a good guy too, as good as
it gets in politics. Jesus was the bum, like grinning Dick Nixon. If
you are alert to the ways of the world, then you know too that the
world has always been the way it is today (for the past eleven
thousand years, that is).

Don't take my word for it. Just have another look at the New
Testament, but this time without any preconceptions. Despite the gloss
they tried to put on it afterwards, the true meaning screams out from
the pages at you.*

When Jesus said of the temple that 'not a stone will be left upon a
stone' - he was predicting a poleshift - because only a poleshift
causes that type of damage, not your average earthquake or war. This
is confirmed by his recurring discourse on celestial and terrestrial
upheavals which were going to bring the world to the brink of total
annihilation. When asked when the poleshift would happen, Jesus
answered that it would be in the lifetime of his audience. For an
indication of what was REALLY going on at that time, you can read
Mark, Chapter 13, and also Luke Chapter 21. The phraseology attributed
to Jesus echoes the literal descriptions of earlier poleshifts found
in the writings of the Hebrew prophets, and paraphrased in ancient
documents all over the world.

The Jesus gang had no scientific knowledge. The poor man was just
reading the script supplied by his backers - in other words Jesus was
an ancient version of Tony Blair and George Bush, an ignorant script
reader, a chancer, but an unsuccessful chancer. Jesus didn't
understand that the orbits of Venus and Mars had stabilized to their
present-day positions as a result of the near-collisions 700 years
previously, coinciding with the founding of Rome.

So the solar system refused to dance to Jesus's tune. Mary / Ishtar /
Star of Bethlehem didn't come back. The Roman authority structure held
firm. As it became clear that his poleshift prediction had failed,
Jesus was disgraced. He couldn't face his followers, and his followers
couldn't face him. Remember, he had persuaded the likes of James and
John to give up their jobs and possessions on the basis of promising
them a share of the spoils, a job in the palace and a few dozen
concubines, when Jesus became king. Jesus had made fools of these men
with his false prediction of a poleshift, so some of them were getting
ready to lynch him. It was considered prudent for Jesus to make
himself scarce, so he was smuggled out of town by his few remaining
friends. It was all terribly undignified. His trail can be picked up
in Kashmir. His tomb is there. 'Sightings' of Jesus in France, England
and the Americas are the ancient equivalent of Elvis sightings today.
Sightings of Lord Lucan would be a better comparison. Both Jesus and
Lord Lucan were failed gamblers. When things got too hot, they both
arranged their disappearance with the connivance of friends in high
places.

In the chaos that followed the failure of the poleshift prophecy,
Palestine was a ferment of hysterical, quarrelling religious sects.
The Roman authorities were alarmed and anxious to restore social
cohesion. So they drafted in one of their best 'sleepers,' a man named
Paul, to infiltrate the major sect and to shape it into an acceptable
establishment religion. His cover story of his miraculous 'conversion'
on the road to Damascus is typical of such cover stories for double
agents, right down to this day. Similarly, to hype up Paul's
credibility with the Christians, his handler arranged for him to be
thrown in jail - just for a while, with the assurance of good
treatment and a script already well rehearsed - again a standard ploy
with double agents throughout history, to establish the agent's
credentials with the group he's infiltrating. There's nothing new in
the world.

If you still don't know that Paul was an establishment stooge, just
look again at what he and his fellow infiltrators wrote, with no
preconceptions this time. For a start you could get a bible
concordance and look up words like 'authority,' 'obey,' 'government,'
and similar, in the writings of Paul and his accomplices. Write down a
list of all the quotations you find which exhort Christians to 'obey
the established government, for its authority comes from God,' and
similar phrases. You will be shocked by the frequency with which that
theme crops up. Paul and his henchmen did a thorough job, in tandem
with intermittent persecutions. In the end, an inert, establishment
religion took shape under the title of Christianity.

In a far-flung empire, at a time when there were no mass media and no
scientific "experts" to intimidate the masses, a universal state
religion was a desirable tool for social control. A universal state
religion was as good as a sentry on every corner, and much cheaper. In
fact religions can turn in a tidy profit, by a combination of
blackmail and bribery, threatening hell and selling heaven. So, two
centuries later, when Constantine decided he needed a universal state
religion to hold the decaying empire together, he chose to hijack
Paul's organization and its title. The bizarre compilation religion
cobbled together at Nicea under Constantine's supervision bore little
resemblance to Paul's outfit, and still less to Jesus's predictions of
a poleshift three centuries earlier.

The obscenity of Constantine's compilation religion (modern
Christianity) leaves a sane observer in shock.

We have:

The deity who requires a human sacrifice to sate his bloodlust and
sadism, and is 'well pleased' to consign his own son to be tortured to
death;

No satisfactory explanation of what would have happened if the deity
had NOT had his son whipped and killed;

The clear implication that the 'god' we are ordered to worship is
morally inferior to humanity, and is in fact criminally insane - as no
human being would ever order his or her son to be whipped and publicly
tortured to death, and any human being who did order his or her son to
be whipped and publicly tortured to death would immediately be locked
up for life in a lunatic asylum;

Simulated blood drinking (or menstrual blood drinking) and simulated
cannibalism (the last supper / communion) to satisfy the customers
whose previous religions involved such practices;

The deity who 'loves' us is waiting to pounce on us and burn us alive
forever if we make a mistake and forget to apologize;

Mary worship to placate the customers whose previous religion was
Venus / Ishtar worship, the statues and drawings of Mary to be the
same as those of Venus / Ishtar;

Exhortations for slaves to obey their masters or mistresses;

Women effectively reduced to men's property;

Church buildings exhibiting giant pornographic images of a near-naked
man being whipped and publicly tortured to death, displayed in full
view of small children (so far the police have not raided these
premises to confiscate the offending images);

Parents encouraging small children to possess and view and glorify
copies of the same sadomasochistic images of a near-naked man being
whipped and publicly tortured to death; (I have never heard of these
irresponsible parents getting a visit from social workers to warn them
that it is a serious criminal offence to corrupt the morals of minors
in this way);

and I could go on and on and on .............

And oh yes, nearly forgot. I said there is a major sex scandal at the
heart of Christianity. It is this. What do you think motivated Jesus
and the half dozen other front men who were hoping to become king of
the tribe after the anticipated collapse of Roman rule? Well, it's
obvious. You know what men are. Boys will be boys. According to the
official tally, King Solomon had seven hundred wives and three hundred
concubines. To be king of any tribe at that time meant a lifetime of
lechery, cavorting in the palace with a thousand or more sex slaves to
satisfy your every lewd desire. That was the attraction for Jesus and
the other half dozen front men who wanted to become king. That is
another reason why Jesus ran away when his poleshift prophecy failed.
A disgraced prophet lacks sex appeal in his own country, so Jesus made
himself scarce and tried it on next with those delicious Asian babes
up there in Kashmir.

That, then, is the Christian religion. What you call Christianity has
little to do with Jesus, but is Constantine's half-disguised
compilation of all the previous planet-god religions, designed to hold
a decaying empire together for a while longer.

Three centuries earlier, Jesus was a failed prophet of doom and a
failed sex maniac.

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*The 'New Testament' is not all bad. It is centred around the
undignified and corrupt scramble for the leadership of the tribe based
on the mistaken belief that Rome was about to collapse. But
nevertheless, the 'gospels' and the Pauline propaganda plagiarized
some extracts from earlier texts containing words of beauty and wisdom
and lofty ethics. These beautiful texts are timeless. They have always
been around and did not originate two thousand years ago.
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Some scholars have theorized that the Jesus faction staged the
crucifixion of Jesus with the aid of a paralysing drug to simulate
death, or that a lookalike stood in for him on the cross (shades of
Saddam Hussein). These writers let themselves be intimidated by dogma
and peer pressure into continuing to take it as axiomatic that Jesus
was crucified. There is no reason to believe that 'the crucifixion'
ever happened. Yes, undoubtedly there were about half a dozen front
men (preachers) and their backers vying to win recognition as the new
king before the anticipated poleshift. But death by crucifixion wasn't
necessary to gain the people's adulation. The vague allusions to a
coming messiah in the 'Old Testament' don't require it. They couldn't
- because they were written mostly before Rome got under way, before
crucifixion came into vogue. These front men (preachers) were in
conflict only with their own priesthood, not with the Roman
government. They saw no need to confront Rome, because they were
convinced that the Empire would be swept away in the anticipated
poleshift.

Besides, a man like Jesus, whose ambition was to spend the rest of his
life jumping up and down on a thousand whores in the harem, was not
going to put himself at risk physically.

The story of the crucifixion and resurrection is not about a man. It
is an allegory of events in the sky - rogue planets (gods) coming and
going, shining brilliantly for a while and then fading completely;
then seeming to rise from the dead as their elongated orbits bring
them (or a different planet) past the earth again, or disappearing and
then being rediscovered in a stable orbit, as were Saturn and Venus.
The Osiris myth, and hundreds of other similar stories throughout the
world, are corresponding allegories of what our ancestors saw in the
sky. Why did the gospel writers (=infiltrators / propagandists / spin
doctors) insert into their 'press releases' that story of Jesus's
death and resurrection and ascension into heaven? Well, it's obvious.

When his prediction of a poleshift was seen to be false, Jesus was
wrecked, he suffered a nervous breakdown. He couldn't face his
followers in disgrace. His followers couldn't face him because they
were so embarrassed for having believed his prediction of a poleshift
and having given up all their worldly goods because they believed they
were going to lose them anyway in the poleshift. In fact some of them
wanted to lynch Jesus for having duped them into giving up their
livelihoods and possessions in the hope of getting a job in the palace
and a few dozen concubines after the anticipated collapse of Roman
Rule. The consensus was that Jesus had better make himself scarce, to
spare everybody's blushes and to save Jesus from a lynching. Jesus
landed on his feet in Kashmir. Meanwhile his former comrades back in
Palestine had a damage limitation / public relations task which taxed
their powers of invention and imagination. In the end, an agreement
was hammered out among the embarrassed remnant of the poleshift
believers. Four skilled propagandists (spin doctors) were appointed to
'sell' the new story to the public. The Saturn / Osiris story was
modified and embellished, then transplanted to Palestine with Jesus in
the starring role, and with a humanized half-woman / half-planet
version of Ishtar as his mother. It was an intelligent piece of damage
limitation, a brilliant face-saving formula, a masterpiece of 'spin.'
It succeeded because the story was archetypal. The drama of planet-
gods dying and rising again had been played out so many times across
the vault of the sky, that a significant number of people were
susceptible to this new variation on the old theme.

The other attraction of this story was that people preferred to forget
about poleshifts. Christianity buried the memory of the 'gods in the
sky' who had repeatedly drawn near and traumatised and devastated the
earth, because Christianity transmuted the planet-gods into just two
half-human gods, the half-man-half-planet Jesus and the half-woman-
half-planet Mary, together with half-human angels (hitherto comets).
Admittedly the book of Revelation, the last book in the Bible,
predicted another poleshift, if anyone wanted to read it with open
eyes. And both Jesus and Mary shapeshift into their 'alter ego' as
PLANETS in the book of Revelation. But it was safely in the undefined
future, obscured by religious symbolism, and with an implied escape
clause (the Rapture). So the 'gospels' and the 'New Testament' were
welcomed with open arms by a weary populace longing to sink deeper
into amnesia.

The rest, as they say, is history.
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"Sex Scandal" is reproduced from "The Voice of the Voiceless - The
Universal Infant Talks Back to the Mothers of this Civilisation." As a
contribution to societal healing, an e-book of the said title will be
sent free of charge to anyone who requests it.
-Peter Newman / ishta...@ntlworld.com
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Janitor of Lunacy

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I take it this is the latest sequel. Can anyone fill me in on the plots of
its predecessors? Thanks.


Joe Lee

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"Janitor of Lunacy" <gh...@attic.info> wrote in message
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>I take it this is the latest sequel. Can anyone fill me in on the plots of
>its predecessors? Thanks.


Well first of all there was a big bang - everything after that's up for
grabs.

My God ! (praise be upon her), only now do I realise the full extent of my
beliefs.

--
Joe Lee


ishta...@ntlworld.com

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On Nov 3, 2:33 am, "Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote:
> "Janitor of Lunacy" <gh...@attic.info> wrote in messagenews:ZqQWi.44420$vI1....@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...

>
> >I take it this is the latest sequel. Can anyone fill me in on the plots of
> >its predecessors? Thanks.
>
> Well first of all there was a big bang - everything after that's up for
> grabs.
>
> My God ! (praise be upon her), only now do I realise the full extent of my
> beliefs.
>
> --
> Joe Lee
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Oh Mary, by thy pure and immaculate Conception, make my body pure and
my soul holy.

Who is She that comes forth as the morning rising, fair as the moon,
brighter than the sun, terrible as an army set in battle array?


ishta...@ntlworld.com

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THE LEGION OF MARY

The Legion of Mary is a subgroup within the Roman Catholic Church. In
Dublin its headquarters are at Morning Star Avenue, in the middle of a
seedy, run down district, north of the river, off the tourist trail.
The oratory (chapel) in Morning Star Avenue is not open to the
public. I have been inside it, and was both fascinated and disturbed
by what I saw there.

Behind the altar, covering the entire wall from one side of the chapel
to the other, is a giant mural. The predominant colour is a sombre
grey. The scene depicted is gloomy and ominous, stirring emotions of
inarticulate awe deep within the heart of the observer. Most visitors
do not understand why they find the image so disquieting. To the
trained eye, however, the scene is instantly recognizable as a
representation of what the sky looked like during the first Venus
catastrophes, 3,400 years ago. The artist knew what he was drawing,
and he also knew how far he could go, so as to say what needed to be
said while keeping the image sufficiently ambiguous. Ambiguity is
fundamental to the Christian religion. Constantine's achievement was
to enable us to forget our past while allowing us to continue to gaze
upon thinly disguised pictorial images of what we are trying so hard
to forget.

The next shock was the 'Catena Legionis,' a prayer which the Legion of
Mary recites daily throughout the world, and which you wont hear
elsewhere in the Catholic liturgy, though a garbled version of it
might surface in today's Druidic or Wiccan revivals, and in Satanic*
rituals.

(*It is important to grasp the fact that Satan and Mary are one and
the same; Satan and Mary are only two of about a hundred names for a
composite 'rogue planet,' which repeatedly passed close to the
earth.)

The Catena Legionis, recited daily throughout the world in Legion of
Mary chapels, begins and ends with the antiphon:

Ø Who is She that comes forth as the morning rising,
Ø fair as the moon, bright as the sun,
Ø terrible as an army set in battle array?

Immediately after that comes the Hebrew 'Magnificat,' which
Constantine hijacked from the Jews, and which includes the words:

He looks on his servant in her lowliness;

So which is it, then?

Which one is Mary?

Are we talking about a pregnant teenager in Palestine - a servant in
her lowliness - or are we talking about something else, something
'bright as the sun, terrible as an army set in battle array?'

Both have the name 'Mary.'

So what is going on here?

The customer is always right. Constantine desperately needed a
universal state religion to hold the decaying empire together for a
while longer. His customers desperately needed to forget the
interplanetary near-collisions which are the basis of all our
religions. Christianity therefore was devised as a major step along
the road of sinking deeper into amnesia with regard to the
catastrophes. It suited both Constantine and his customers.

Remember the references to 'the queen's dignity' in the section titled
'HUMAN SACRIFICE.' Constantine was fearful of losing his 'dignity' in
a poleshift too. The expected poleshift had not materialized in the
time of Jesus. Constantine and all other emperors wanted to forget
the dreaded threat of 'loss of dignity' which a poleshift brought to
ruling elites. As the anticipated catastrophe had not come in the
time of Jesus, it was tempting for Constantine to assume that perhaps
we can forget about it altogether and that emperors can just get on
with the job of consolidating their power and looting the earth. So
both ruling elites and the masses wanted this new religion which would
sink us all deeper into collective amnesia with regard to the horrors
of the poleshifts. Christianity was designed for that purpose - to
help us to forget our true history, to enable us to sink deeper into
amnesia - and that explains its amazing success. The customer is
always right.

However, you can't supplant the planet-god religions just like that.
The planet-god religions are archetypal and these archetypes cannot be
erased from the collective human consciousness. When the Spanish
imposed Christianity at the point of the sword in South America, the
old planet-god idols were secretly retained by the natives and can
still be seen today in Catholic churches in that region. So why fight
it? Constantine was wise enough to do it the easy way, disguising the
planet-gods by transmuting them into the half-man-half-planet, Jesus,
and the half-woman-half-planet, Mary, and personalising the comets and
bolides as 'angels,' graded in accordance with their brightness in the
sky, while retaining the image of 'the cross' - because a Shining
Cross In The Sky is the appearance of the planet-gods Jesus and Mary
at a certain distance from the earth, approaching and departing - and
substituting a man-god's death and resurrection for the archetypal
death and resurrection of the series of planet-gods which had shone so
brightly, then waned into darkness, then resurrected themselves as
their orbits brought them (or another planet) back near the earth
again. Thus the statues and pictures of the planet-god 'Mary,' which
you can examine in your local Catholic church today, are identical in
all essentials to the statues and pictures of the same planet-god by
other names such as Ishtar, which you can dig up from the ruins of
ancient pre-Christian temples. Constantine did not make the mistake
of trying to destroy the archetypes, the mistake which the Spanish
thugs were later to make in South America at the cost of much
bloodletting, and to no avail, because the archetypal planet-god
images still survive to this day in Catholic churches in South
America.

Ø Who is She that comes forth as the morning rising,
Ø fair as the moon, bright as the sun,
Ø terrible as an army set in battle array?

That is an expression of our ancestors' ABSOLUTE TERROR at the
anticipated reappearance of the dreaded Star of the Morning (which is
another appellation of Mary, Queen of Heaven, in the exoteric Catholic
liturgy). What is happening here is that the Legion of Mary, a
subgroup of the Roman Catholic Church, is still chanting an English
translation of the ancient Babylonian hymn of fear and supplication to
Venus / Ishtar. This is in keeping with Constantine's formula - to
forget and not to forget, to know and not to know.

As indicated earlier in 'SEX SCANDAL,' the planet-god in question was
renamed Mary by the revisionists and infiltrators in first-century
Palestine after the failed poleshift prophet and failed sex maniac
called Jesus had run away. Constantine was to finish the job which
the Pauline infiltrators started. The psychological need to sink
ourselves deeper into amnesia prompted this 'double take,' whereby
Mary is both the pregnant teenager and the dreaded Star of the
Morning. The Babylonian hymn of fear continues to live on in the
Legion of Mary chapels to this day, because those ancient prayers of
supplication to Venus / Ishtar are associated with survival benefits
in the collective racial consciousness.

Check it out for yourself in your own town. When I had a closer look
at the statue of Mary in my local Catholic church (and it's a fairly
recent statue), I noticed that - instead of a crescent 'moon' under
her feet - "the horns of Ishtar" are openly displayed, shaped exactly
like a cow's horns, and sticking out from under Mary's skirt on both
sides, level with her ankles. If this 'person' we worship so
fervently really IS that pregnant teenage girl in Palestine, then why
does she almost invariably have either a crescent 'moon' under her
feet, or alternatively two cow's horns sticking out from under her
skirt, as well as all those stars around her head?

Often there is a snake/serpent/dragon sticking out from under Mary's
skirt too. An ancient battle between a woman and a serpent/dragon is
a near-universal tradition on about half of the globe (the half of the
globe where Mary was above the horizon), and is often linked with a
new type of agriculture. Look again at the Queen of Heaven
illustration.

Why doesn't someone explain?

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"The Legion of Mary" - reproduced from "The Voice of the Voiceless -
The Universal Infant talks back to the mothers of this civilisation" -
of which e-book will be sent free of charge on request.

for healing,

-Pete
"All Our Songs Are Sad" / "I Still Miss Someone"
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ishta...@ntlworld.com

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Nov 4, 2007, 10:29:55 AM11/4/07
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Just to reply a bit further to the instigator of this thread.......

Abraham is mentioned.

I understand that the Arabs, and by association the Muslims, are the
descendants of Abraham and Hagar........ whereas the Jews, as well as
the "lost tribes" who make up the white Christian populations of
Europe and North America, are the descendants of Abraham and
Sarah..........

It doesn't really matter. There were many destructions of
civilisation, and then a new "Adam and Eve" picked up the pieces and
started again....

What we need to face up to now is that every Jew, Christian and Moslem
must hang our heads in shame at being descended from that filthy
little paranoid schizphrenic Abraham.

What do you think of a man who claims to "hear the voice of god
ordering him to murder his own son" and then is ready to do just
that........ and who then tells you that an "angel" came along and
said he doesn't have to murder his son after all..........

Clearly Abraham was a knife-wielding paranoid schizophrenic - the type
you read about in the Daily Mail today and may encounter on the
streets of London - and so Abraham needed to be locked up in a secure
mental hospital, and - above all - kept at a safe distance from
children.......

Every Christain, every Jew, Every Moslem must now hang our heads in
shame at being descended from a paranoid schizophrenic called Abraham,
a man who "heard the voice of god ordering him to murder his son"...
and was half-willing to do so....... Abraham was a danger to children,
to say the least........
We all urgently need to protect ourselves and our children from
paranoid schizophrenics like Abraham.

Does that explain the state of the world today? --- the fact that
Jews, Christians and Moslems are the descendants of a paranoid
schizophrenic?

ishta...@ntlworld.com

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Nov 4, 2007, 11:36:41 AM11/4/07
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VAMPIRES AND SATURNALIA

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In Tibet, the high altitude and rarefied atmosphere make it difficult
to practice the vegetarian diet prescribed by Buddhism. Anaemia caused
by low levels of oxygen in the air produces a craving for red meat to
replenish the blood cells.

That phenomenon in Tibet today is a microcosm of what happened so
tragically on a global scale following the explosion of Saturn. Clouds
of Saturnian gases, predominantly hydrogen and chlorine, went surging
outward in all directions through the solar system. The earth was
bathed in intensely brilliant light for seven days. At the end of
those seven days, the alien gases hit the earth's atmosphere and all
hell broke loose down on the ground. The hydrogen stripped away much
of the oxygen in the atmosphere to form water which then fell to earth
as 'the deluge.' The water produced in this way was heated. It was
like having a hot shower. But nobody was in the mood to enjoy it, as
the world they had known and loved for so long was being swept away
and buried.

We always gloss over the next bit, but there was more to the deluge
than just rain. Before the hydrogen cloud hit us, the earth had
already been badly shaken, so that "not a stone was left upon a
stone." Jesus predicted the past, not the future, when he used that
phrase. But - notwithstanding what had already happened on earth after
the explosion of light - seven days afterwards unthinkable horrors
were still to be unleashed on our ancestors when the hydrogen cloud
from Saturn hit the earth's atmosphere. The end of the world had
already come seven days earlier. The deluge was the knockout punch,
the coûp de grace. Those hydrogen clouds were to deform the Creation
beyond recognition.

The incoming hydrogen stripped the atmosphere of much of its oxygen.
The consequences were dire for all breathers on earth. As in the
mountains of Tibet today, carnivorous urges were awakened in the
hitherto vegetarian population of earth, human and animal. Everything
was suddenly the reverse of what it had been in the Golden Age.

The depletion of the atmospheric oxygen and the resulting anaemia
meant that DRINKING HUMAN BLOOD WAS THE SHORTCUT TO RELIEF AND
SURVIVAL. So the Dracula story and all the other vampire legends have
their roots in fact. They are fact, in the sense that blood drinking
became widespread after the explosion of Saturn, although after a
while it was discouraged officially. Biting into a large vein,
preferably the jugular in the neck, left the victim alive, and
therefore a continuing source of fresh blood for a while longer, a
living larder. Cannibalism was another way of restoring the depleted
red blood cells in the darkened, wrecked, oxygen-starved hell after
the flood. That is how cannibalism originated. People did what they
had to do to survive. They generally do. In this case, survival was
all they had left. Everything else they possessed had been swept away
in the deluge. The world itself was gone. Life was the only possession
remaining, so they clung determinedly to life by becoming vampires and
cannibals. The more squeamish (or more evolved?) among our ancestors
ate only the flesh of animals, prepared in private by specialist
butchers to spare peoples sensibilities, just like today.

The conditions our ancestors had to endure after the explosion of
Saturn are beyond our comprehension today as we recline in our soft
armchairs. To moralize from this distance about the behaviour of the
traumatized, grief-crazed survivors of the deluge, is meaningless.

The Hebrew tradition states that Noah got blind drunk when he saw what
humanity had been reduced to after the explosion of Saturn, because he
saw what we inevitably were going to do to each other in the non-world
that remained. He was entitled to a stiff drink in the circumstances.

Crucially, eating human flesh and drinking human blood became
associated with survival benefits in our ancestors' brains and in the
collective archetype. People tend to repeat any behaviour which became
associated with survival benefits. So it is not surprising that
vampirism and cannibalism remained the accepted practice in some parts
of the world well into the twentieth century and that that vampires
and cannibals still exist today.

It is equally unsurprising that simulated blood drinking and simulated
cannibalism are still being performed every day in Christian churches
all over the world right now as you read these words. The Christian
'communion' is an unconscious celebration of life - but it's not much
of a life. It is mere survival that the Christians are celebrating -
the survival of our ancestors, who were the dominant tribes after the
deluge, survival which our forefathers secured by eating the flesh and
drinking the blood of weaker tribes in a world with almost no
vegetation and depleted of atmospheric oxygen. The Christian Mass,
with its simulated vampirism and simulated cannibalism, was intended
by Constantine as a distillation of all the corresponding ceremonies
from the pre-Christian temples, including those where the priests
would drink the menstrual blood of the temple virgins from the same
type of golden chalice, prior to raping them.

Most Christians are good people. Yet they resist any criticism of
these obscene simulations of vampirism and cannibalism - because these
practices are associated with survival benefits. And there IS
something inwardly satisfying about the sight of the Christian priest
licking his lips after drinking a red liquid from a ceremonial cup,
isn't there? It is a celebration of vampirism, The Holy Blood which
enabled our ancestors to survive after the flood. LIFE is so very
precious to us all. So the simulated blood-drinking ceremony 'feels
right' even to this day. It feels so 'right' that in recent decades
Roman Catholics have been invited to approach the altar and to take
the cup in their own hands and drink the red liquid themselves -
whereas when I was a boy only the priest was allowed to drink the red
liquid while we commoners got just a wafer of bread placed on our
tongues to celebrate cannibalism.

Why the changeover? In an era when Christianity has been in decline
and losing members, offering the cup to the congregation was a cheap
and cynical ploy by the Cardinals to pander to the archetype, to the
buried memory of how our ancestors secured their survival by drinking
a red liquid. The plan is working, to some degree. The communal blood
drinking simulation is the most fulfilling and most satisfying part of
Sunday Mass, and it is helping to keep the Church in business. The
Cardinals knew what they were doing to us. They knew we'd like it.
Life is so precious to all of us. Historically, drinking the blood of
anyone weaker than ourselves has meant the difference between life and
death in some situations.

Constantine pandered to the same archetype when he put those words
into Jesus's mouth: 'He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood
shall have life...' Those words predate Jesus. Why do those words feel
so RIGHT? Why do those words strike a chord deep in every human heart?
Because we - all of us without exception - are descended from the
worst of the worst, the filthy scum of the earth, who had no
compunction about slitting the throats of their gentler fellow human
beings and drinking their blood to survive in the darkened, barren
postdiluvian hell. Constantine knew what he was doing. He had an
Empire to run. The communal blood drinking simulation which he
incorporated into his compilation religion helped to promote social
cohesion, helped to delay the inevitable collapse of the Roman Empire
for a few more decades. So be aware of what you are participating in
when you go to Sunday Mass - not forgetting the statues of Venus /
Ishtar / Mary with the moon under her feet and a crown of stars around
her head and a serpent or dragon sticking his head out from under her
skirt, also the Shining Cross which was the appearance which Venus /
Ishtar / Mary presented in the sky at a certain distance from the
earth, approaching and departing, plus the giant pornographic images
of a near-naked man being whipped and publicly tortured to death.

You could at least leave your children at home.

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You may find it difficult to believe that your ancestors were vampires
and cannibals, and that this is the meaning of the Christian communion
and of the words attributed to Jesus. It becomes easier to accept when
you consider a well-documented historical event that happened only as
recently as December 1944. The retreating Japanese army - desperate
for slave labour in their homeland - tried to transport 1,600 American
soldiers from the Philippines to Japan on board the passenger liner
Oryoku Maru. The prisoners were packed into the cargo hold where some
of them eventually went crazy from thirst and stress. Significantly,
they were starved of oxygen too, because the Japanese had closed the
hatch and there was no ventilation. And there was no light. Thus the
hellish conditions those American soldiers found themselves in
resembled closely the hellish conditions our ancestors were plunged
into all over the world following the explosion of Saturn. The more
ruthless among the prisoners started slitting other prisoners' throats
with razor blades and drinking their blood to survive.

Those American soldiers who became vampires to survive in 1944 are not
to be blamed or condemned. They had been driven insane by the
cumulative traumas of battle and their treatment by their Japanese
captors, culminating in the darkened, oxygen-starved hell below decks
on the Oryoku Maru. In the same way, our ancestors eleven thousand
years ago cannot be blamed or condemned for what they did to survive.
They had been driven insane by the near-collision between Jupiter and
Saturn and the traumas that ensued on earth. That is what happens in a
survivalist emergency. The worst of humanity survive, because they are
ruthless enough to do what they have to do to survive.

*A vivid account of the hell on board the Oryoku Maru can be found in
"Surviving the Sword: Prisoners of the Japanese 1942-45" by Brian
MacArthur.

Thus we are the descendants of the worst of the worst. Whoever you are
and wherever you are, you are alive today only because your ancestors
were the filthiest scum of the earth, the ones who had no compunction
about drinking the blood of other human beings to survive. And that is
what you are celebrating when you drink that red liquid from a
ceremonial cup at Sunday Mass - you are honouring a collection of
filthy little shits, our common ancestors, the human vampires and
cannibals from whom all human beings are descended. When Christians
finally confront this, their faces will be redder than that liquid in
the chalice, and they will find a more dignified way of expressing
their reverence for the Creative Power.

Last Sunday, as I sat beside my wife and watched the holy congregation
solemnly approaching the altar, I whispered to my wife that I would go
with her this time. I wanted to see how it feels to celebrate
cannibalism and vampirism, and of course I wanted to see if it was a
good wine. But when our turn came, I was glued to the pew. I couldn't
get up. It occurred to me there and then last Sunday that the
communion wafer is coloured white because Christianity originated
among white-skinned peoples. So when our ancestors after the flood ate
the flesh of our gentler neighbours, their flesh was coloured white on
the outside. That is what the communion wafer celebrates - the white
skin of the flesh of our gentler brothers and sisters, which our
ancestors ate in order to survive. I couldn't move. I couldn't
celebrate something so obscene. Eventually Christians will understand
what Constantine did to them. Then they will flush the remaining
communion wafers down the toilet.

The explosion of Saturn, along with the ensuing series of survivalist
emergencies - and the terrible things our ancestors were compelled to
do to each other in order to survive - comprised the 'fall of man;'

Not the first 'fall of man.' Prior to then, there had been an ebb and
flow in the tide of human affairs, and immediately before the deluge
some parts of the world were peopled by harmonious civilizations
rooted in a sane mother-infant relationship;

BUT THE EXPLOSION OF SATURN WAS DECISIVE IN PLUNGING US ALL SO DEEP
INTO SURVIVALIST MODE THAT TODAY MOST PEOPLE CANNOT EVEN BEGIN TO
IMAGINE THAT THERE COULD BE SUCH A THING AS A SANE CIVILIZATION AND
SUCH A THING AS A SANE MOTHER-INFANT RELATIONSHIP.

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Ever since the explosion of Saturn, a deep-seated nostalgia and a
longing to regain the lost harmony and bliss of the antediluvian
paradise has persisted in the human consciousness. For Europeans it
can be discerned most prominently in the historical record in the
Roman festival of Saturnalia. Significantly, the days of Saturnalia,
commencing late in December, were marked not only with bright lights
to signify the explosion, but also with a reversal of social
relations, including slave owners serving and waiting on their slaves
and enduring light-hearted humiliation from them. What force could
have moved a pampered, domineering patrician or senator to submit to
such indignities for several days? And at the hands of his own slaves?
And in ancient Rome? Such is the power of the archetype. The Romans
cherished a deep-seated lingering awareness that somewhere in the
misty past, life was much better, and a collective longing to regain
our lost paradise.

The 'season of goodwill' which supposedly accompanies the present day
Christmas - but in practice doesn't - is a pale and fading echo of the
Saturnalia and of that nagging feeling that still wont go away: a deep
and abiding assurance that we can be better than we are, because
somewhere in our distant past we WERE better than we are.

"Vampires and Saturnalia" was inspired by Velikovsky's "IN THE
BEGINNING."

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reproduced from
"The Voice of the Voiceless - The Universal Infant talks back to the
mothers of this civilisation"

dated April 2005, a copy of which will be sent as e-book on request.
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