The Shoplifter's Defence
Turk182
you don't steal from the poor.
The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good food.
That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a supermarket
should be given an absolute discharge if it is found that the
supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could have given
to someone in dire need.
Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
the collection as it comes round!
Turk182
Ste
> Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve, provided
> you don't steal from the poor.
>
> The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good food.
> That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a supermarket
> should be given an absolute discharge if it is found that the
> supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could have given
> to someone in dire need.
>
>
> Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
> the collection as it comes round!
I'm sure his argument would be that he intends to use the collection
money, not throw it in the bin.
Turk182
So should we be entitled to steal from rich people if we discover they
have been squandering their wealth? (something our PM might argue
for!).
Turk182
DVH
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There's no question of "should" or "shouldn't".
The only worthwhile question is "does somebody steal food in order to
survive, and if so do you have the will and the means to stop them".
The rest is sterile argufying suitable for vicars and the BBC and sociology
graduates.
Ret.
I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food waste, to
learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to supermarkets ends up
in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
Kev
Norman Wells
> Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve, provided
> you don't steal from the poor.
No-one ever disputes that, as far as I'm aware, so it's a statement of the
stunningly obvious, absolutely typical of what clerics come out with at this
time of year.
Ste
Of course!
Norman Wells
> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food
> waste, to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to
> supermarkets ends up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its
> 'best before' date.
There are a lot of totally bogus statistics banded around by those with an
agenda. This is one such.
Where is the source of this misinformation?
Ret.
It was an article relating to an organisation that has persuaded the
supermarkets to allow it to remove this food, about to go to landfill, and
give it to those in need. I have no idea where the figure of 60% came
from - but that was the statistic they quoted.
Kev
Bob Ferguson
"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
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By logical extension that also means that those of us who buy the remaining
40% must also be paying for the dumped 60%, otherwise the supermarkets
profits would be hit.
Norman Wells
> Norman Wells wrote:
>> Ret. wrote:
>>
>>> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food
>>> waste, to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to
>>> supermarkets ends up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to
>>> its 'best before' date.
>>
>> There are a lot of totally bogus statistics banded around by those
>> with an agenda. This is one such.
>>
>> Where is the source of this misinformation?
>
> It was an article relating to an organisation that has persuaded the
> supermarkets to allow it to remove this food, about to go to
> landfill, and give it to those in need.
Then it's probably Fareshare who currently work with Sainsbury's, M&S and
Tesco to distribute out of date food to the needy, and are currently in
talks with Asda as well. Clearly that's good, but I don't see how they, if
it's them, can allege anything like a figure of 60% except as a deliberate
and startling lie to attract attention.
> I have no idea where the
> figure of 60% came from - but that was the statistic they quoted.
If anyone does know, it would be interesting to check it out.
Ret.
A quick Google came up with this:
However, the worst culprits, naturally enough, are the supermarkets. While
most of them proudly insist they give surplus food to charity, the reality -
according to Stuart - is that most of it goes straight into landfill sites.
In 2006-7, Sainsbury's claimed to have given away 6,680 tons of food. All
very admirable, until you consider that this only represents 10 per cent of
their annual discard. Tesco, meanwhile, dumps around 125,000 tons of food
each year.
Kev
Mr X
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money, not throw it in the bin.]
Can I steal his fod as he only intendes to flush it down the loo?
Bob Ferguson
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> 'Ret.' wrote thus:
> There's quite a bit of that too...
>
Hardly surprising when the supermarkets don't sell perishable food in small
quantities.
Fred
>> I'm sure his argument would be that he intends to use the collection
>> money, not throw it in the bin.
>
> So should we be entitled to steal from rich people if we discover they
> have been squandering their wealth? (something our PM might argue
> for!).
>
> Turk182
>
You will find that in it's various utterances the term "middle class" is
being used for almost anyone who has a job. Makes a better headline for
them doesn't it? "Middle class to bear the brunt" etc.
Norman Wells
Forgive me, but I'd rather see the raw data and the sources of it rather
than some figures plucked out of the air, and for all I know utterly bogus,
by someone who has a scare book to sell.
I instinctively mistrust any figures that just do not accord with my own
experience. And this one is in the same league as one we had a discussion
about some time ago, namely that a third of all the food everyone buys is
thrown away. I estimated I threw away about 5%. No-one here said they
threw away anything like a third, so where the total came from I have no
idea.
Djornsk
I remember 40 years ago dossing on Brighton beach the discovering the
delicacies within the bins at the back of Waitrose. On one occasion we
provisioned ourselves for a stay on Chanctonbury Ring with lots of
tinned "Bulgarian Salad", much of which was trampled by cattle the first
morning.
Moving on to the topic my second reaction to the sermon would be to
imagine that the advice given to the congregation was reasonable and
proportionate, and then try to visualise the conditions of hardship that
it might reflect. Could it really be that things are now so bad in this
and perhaps other parts of the country?
j
Kim Bolton
Ret. wrote:
>Tesco, meanwhile, dumps around 125,000 tons of food
>each year.
Crikey - that's the equivalent of a 20-ship (plus escorts) Atlantic
convoy of 1942/3
.
--
from
Kim Bolton
Catweazel
[snip]
>
> http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/12/23/can-theft-be-...
>
> Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
> the collection as it comes round!
>
OTOH I suspect there are many congregations that have organised
various forms of relief for those in need,
at all times of the year.
Norman Wells
> Ret. wrote:
>
>> Tesco, meanwhile, dumps around 125,000 tons of food
>> each year.
>
> Crikey - that's the equivalent of a 20-ship (plus escorts) Atlantic
> convoy of 1942/3
Only if you believe it.
Ret.
Going back a few years to when my wife and I were still at work, I would
park up at the rear of a row of shops waiting for her to finish for the
drive home. One of the shops was a fruit-shop and they had a skip at the
rear that they threw a lot of perfectly good stuff into at the end of each
day. Every evening at around 5.15, this old fella would trot up, use a box
to stand on to reach into the skip, and fill several carrier bags with fruit
he recovered.
Kev
William Black
Having seen the bloke on TV the other night, probably not.
--
William Black
"Any number under six"
The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
William Black
Every supermarket I've been in for the last couple of years has a shelf
full of stuff that is on its 'sell by' date and is flogged off cheap.
It always seems to be reasonably well patronised...
vomica@nowhere.con nux vomica
"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
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How many times did you arrest him for these thefts?;
<nux vomica>
Vicko Zoomba
> Turk182 wrote:
> > Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve, provided
> > you don't steal from the poor.
>
> > The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good food.
> > That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a supermarket
> > should be given an absolute discharge if it is found that the
> > supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could have given
> > to someone in dire need.
>
>
> > Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
> > the collection as it comes round!
>
> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food waste, to
> learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to supermarkets ends up
> in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
>
It's an absolute sin the amount of food thats wasted in this country.
The moronic food buyers in supermarkets who wont accept conjoined
carrots, the egg producers who reject double yolkers. These fuckin
morons should really have been alive in the war years where nothing
was wasted but as it is we have graduates who come into the management
team straight from a comfy chair into a comfy chair and who have
absolutely no idea of the real world. It infuriates me that we have
people - our own people - who are homeless and hungry while these
management morons are rejecting good food because "the tomatoes aren't
red enough".
Grrrrrr....
McK.
Vicko Zoomba
Here's one - from the horses mouth too. I live in veg producing area
of Fife. As an HGV1 driver I occasionally drice artics for a big
producer here. Recently I took 26 pallets of mixed produce to the UKs
leading supermarket retailers distribution depot and I returned with
26 pallets of returns of carrots. The returns were because their "sell
by" date only had a few days to run. When I got back to the depot, the
company had its workers re-bag the produce (with a new sell by date
stamped on the bags) and delivered to the retailer as new produce. The
retailer wasnt aware of this and nor should they be. The produce was
carrots which keep for weeks as most folk know.
I have absolutely no moral issues regarding the producers action and
thoroughly endorse them.
McKevvy
Vicko Zoomba
> "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
>
> news:NJqdna-6AoQ0QqzW...@pipex.net...
>
>
>
> > Turk182 wrote:
> >> Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve, provided
> >> you don't steal from the poor.
>
> >> The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good food.
> >> That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a supermarket
> >> should be given an absolute discharge if it is found that the
> >> supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could have given
> >> to someone in dire need.
>
>
> >> Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
> >> the collection as it comes round!
>
> > I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food waste,
> > to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to supermarkets ends
> > up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
>
> By logical extension that also means that those of us who buy the remaining
> 40% must also be paying for the dumped 60%, otherwise the supermarkets
> profits would be hit.
Mostly, but not always - see my later post.
McKevvy
Vicko Zoomba
> Ret. wrote:
> >Tesco, meanwhile, dumps around 125,000 tons of food
> >each year.
>
> Crikey - that's the equivalent of a 20-ship (plus escorts) Atlantic
> convoy of 1942/3
> .
>
Mind boggling, isn't it?
Mr X
"Vicko Zoomba" <vicko_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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McK.
How many people starve to death in the UK?
martin
n land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
>>
>
> It's an absolute sin the amount of food thats wasted in this country.
> The moronic food buyers in supermarkets who wont accept conjoined
> carrots, the egg producers who reject double yolkers.
Hang on a sec ... how do they know it's a double yolker?
Bert Hyman
> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food
> waste, to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to
> supermarkets ends up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its
> 'best before' date.
>
How much of that waste is due to food safety or consumer protection
laws?
Even if the sale of out of date food is legal, the general public
probably doesn't know or care; any retailer trying to sell such products
would be pilloried in the media.
In the US there are private agencies that make arrangements with grocers
to salvage surplus food items for distribution to those who need it.
http://feedingamerica.org/
http://www.2harvest.org/
... etc.
I'm sure you have the same.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN be...@iphouse.com
William Black
They hold it up to a bright light.
Graham Murray
> Recently I took 26 pallets of mixed produce to the UKs leading
> supermarket retailers distribution depot and I returned with 26
> pallets of returns of carrots. The returns were because their "sell
> by" date only had a few days to run. When I got back to the depot, the
> company had its workers re-bag the produce (with a new sell by date
> stamped on the bags) and delivered to the retailer as new produce. The
> retailer wasnt aware of this and nor should they be. The produce was
> carrots which keep for weeks as most folk know.
So why were the carrots not marked with a realistic, longer, sell by
date in the first place? If the fruit or vegetables will keep for N
weeks after being pulled/picked then they should have a "use by" or
"best before" (not a sell by) date of N weeks after they are
pulled/picked.
Norman Wells
Just because some buyers won't accept some produce that's out of the
specifications previously agreed with the suppliers, it doesn't mean that
what's rejected is wasted.
That's your logical fallacy.
Norman Wells
So, no waste at all then.
Thanks for confirming my suspicions.
Norman Wells
It might be if it was true.
Can you prove it is?
martin
> martin wrote:
>> Vicko Zoomba wrote:
>> n land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's an absolute sin the amount of food thats wasted in this country.
>>> The moronic food buyers in supermarkets who wont accept conjoined
>>> carrots, the egg producers who reject double yolkers.
>>
>> Hang on a sec ... how do they know it's a double yolker?
>
> They hold it up to a bright light.
I know the theory, do egg producers really check every egg for being
double yolked? The local butcher sells extra-large eggs and 4 out of 6
are double yolkers. Never heard anyone complain.
>
>
martin
> In news:NJqdna-6AoQ0QqzW...@pipex.net "Ret." <xxx> wrote:
>
>> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food
>> waste, to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to
>> supermarkets ends up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its
>> 'best before' date.
>>
>
> How much of that waste is due to food safety or consumer protection
> laws?
>
> Even if the sale of out of date food is legal, the general public
> probably doesn't know or care; any retailer trying to sell such products
> would be pilloried in the media.
These guys seem to be doing ok www.approvedfood.co.uk they sell loads of
food beyond the Best Before and Sell By dates.
Mr X
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Cynic
<willia...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>>> It's an absolute sin the amount of food thats wasted in this country.
>>> The moronic food buyers in supermarkets who wont accept conjoined
>>> carrots, the egg producers who reject double yolkers.
>> Hang on a sec ... how do they know it's a double yolker?
>They hold it up to a bright light.
And it is simply not true that double yolked eggs are rejected. I
have bought *many* of them from Asda. In one carton of eggs, 8 out of
the 10 eggs had a double yolk.
Perhaps they cannot be sold as a "first grade" egg? Which would be
fair enough. If people want to pay extra to avoid them, that's fine
by me. I don't care how many yolks the egg has, but I would object to
finding blood or an embryo chicken inside. I reduce the probability
of that occuring by avoiding free-range eggs.
--
Cynic
joe parkin
None I would hope.
Then again if he answers more than that, I would expect him to get a
right pasting, if he answers none, I would expect him to get a right
pasting.
No win situation.
What would you do?
--
Roger Dewhurst
You can see when the eggs are candled. However I doubt that they are
candled today. Otherwise size. The may just reject oversize eggs. If
you find eggs that have blood spots in them you can assume that they
have not been candled.
R
William Black
I've actually seen it done.
The eggs roll down a shallow ramp after being laid and across a bright
lamp and one of the workers looks at them.
Alasdair
>Hang on a sec ... how do they know it's a double yolker?
Anyway, what's wrong with a double yolker? I actually ask for them
and get them from my local butcher.
--
Alasdair.
Alasdair
wrote:
>Yes beacuse they don't wish to supply an egg with a chick inside!
The chances of finding an egg in a shop with a chick inside must be
about 2 million to one! For a start, they'd have to be about minimum
2 weeks old and maintained at a constant fairly warm temperature and
regularly turned as they have to be in an incubator.
--
Alasdair.
Alasdair
>Going back a few years to when my wife and I were still at work, I would
>park up at the rear of a row of shops waiting for her to finish for the
>drive home. One of the shops was a fruit-shop and they had a skip at the
>rear that they threw a lot of perfectly good stuff into at the end of each
>day. Every evening at around 5.15, this old fella would trot up, use a box
>to stand on to reach into the skip, and fill several carrier bags with fruit
>he recovered.
>
>Kev
In our strange country with its strange laws, would this not amount to
an offence? I have been told that stuff put in a waste bin becomes
the property of the local authority or the waste disposal contractor.
I believe some local councils make a mint by licensing "totters" who
go round rubbish bins salvaging what they can.
--
Alasdair.
FACE
wrote
>I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food waste, to
>learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to supermarkets ends up
>in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
That is a whole topic in itself.
Ret.
Never of course - what do you take me for?
Kev
Ret.
> In news:NJqdna-6AoQ0QqzW...@pipex.net "Ret." <xxx> wrote:
>
>> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food
>> waste, to learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to
>> supermarkets ends up in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its
>> 'best before' date.
>>
>
> How much of that waste is due to food safety or consumer protection
> laws?
>
> Even if the sale of out of date food is legal, the general public
> probably doesn't know or care; any retailer trying to sell such
> products would be pilloried in the media.
I think you're mistaken. The public have been brainwashed. I know several
people who would not dream of eating a product that was past it's 'Best
Before' date. They're idiots I know - but they will stick a tub of yoghurt
in the bin when it's a day past its BB date - even though it will be
perfectly safe to consume for many days after that date.
Kev
martin
lol I wish to assert my rights under the 5th amendment
> Kev
Mr X
"Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
dates on any product and use it if it looks and smells ok to me. I haven't
yet been made ill by food I consumed.
johannes
"Ret." wrote:
>
> Turk182 wrote:
> > Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve, provided
> > you don't steal from the poor.
> >
> > The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good food.
> > That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a supermarket
> > should be given an absolute discharge if it is found that the
> > supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could have given
> > to someone in dire need.
> >
> > http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/2009/12/23/can-theft-be-condoned-if-it-s-done-by-the-poor-and-needy-91466-25453894/
> >
> > Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something from
> > the collection as it comes round!
>
> I was astonished, when watching a recent BBC news article of food waste, to
> learn that around 60% of perishable food delivered to supermarkets ends up
> in land-fill because it is not sold prior to its 'best before' date.
>
> Kev
Went to last minute food shopping as the local supermarket is closed on
Christmas and Boxing day. But look out, because I found food items stocked
in front with sell-by-date the 25'th! Good job that I spotted it, or else
I would have to bin the food and starve on Boxing day.
martin
Sell by != Use by
nux vomica
> nuxvomicawrote:
> > "Ret." <xxx> wrote in message
> >news:csudnRY9cok-mq_W...@pipex.net...
> >> Djornsk wrote:
> >>> Turk182 wrote:
> >>>> Priest Tim Jones says that it's better to steal than starve,
> >>>> provided you don't steal from the poor.
>
> >>>> The far greater crime is that supermarkets can throw away good
> >>>> food. That should be a crime. Any person who steals from a
> >>>> supermarket should be given an absolute discharge if it is found
> >>>> that the supermarket has been throwing food in the bins that could
> >>>> have given to someone in dire need.
>
>
> >>>> Perhaps Tim won't mind if I go to his church and steal something
> >>>> from the collection as it comes round!
>
> >>>> Turk182
>
> >>> I remember 40 years ago dossing on Brighton beach the discovering
> >>> the delicacies within the bins at the back of Waitrose. On one
> >>> occasion we provisioned ourselves for a stay on Chanctonbury Ring
> >>> with lots of tinned "Bulgarian Salad", much of which was trampled
> >>> by cattle the first morning.
>
> >>> Moving on to the topic my second reaction to the sermon would be to
> >>> imagine that the advice given to the congregation was reasonable and
> >>> proportionate, and then try to visualise the conditions of hardship
> >>> that it might reflect. Could it really be that things are now so bad
> >>> in this and perhaps other parts of the country?
>
> >> Going back a few years to when my wife and I were still at work, I
> >> would park up at the rear of a row of shops waiting for her to
> >> finish for the drive home. One of the shops was a fruit-shop and
> >> they had a skip at the rear that they threw a lot of perfectly good
> >> stuff into at the end of each day. Every evening at around 5.15,
> >> this old fella would trot up, use a box to stand on to reach into
> >> the skip, and fill several carrier bags with fruit he recovered.
>
> >>Kev
>
> > How many times did you arrest him for these thefts?;
>
> Never of course - what do you take me for?
>
> Kev
Bet you thought about it though, didn't you, go on - be honest?
<nux vomica>
nux vomica
wrote:
> nuxvomicawrote:
I would feel it a public duty to make sure that I got there before he
did to possibly remove this temptation to crime - that's unless Kev
was anywhere in the vicinity:
<nux vomica>
nux vomica
I'd want to avoid any likelyhood of news headlines along the lines of
'Man shot-dead by police - banana mistaken for gun'...
<nux vomica>
nux vomica
CRIME NEWS - Latest update
Local edition
TERRORIST SUSPECT SHOT DEAD
A Man was this evening shot dead by armed police who swooped at the
rear of Sainsbury's supermarket following a call to the Terrorist
Hotline from a 'member of the public', who claimed he had seen a 'man
waiving guns around' at the back of the car-park to the rear of the
iconic landmark bulding. The witness, who cannot be named for legal
reasons refused any further comment.
POLICE WERE THREATENED WITH FAKE GUNS.
... etc, etc...
<nux vomica>
johannes
No Sir, it is effectively the same. It actually said: Display until/Use by 20-12-09
joe parkin
> > > How many times did you arrest him for these thefts?;
> >
> > None I would hope.
> > Then again if he answers more than that, I would expect him to get a
> > right pasting, if he answers none, I would expect him to get a right
> > pasting.
> > No win situation.
> >
> > What would you do?
> >
> > --
>
> I would feel it a public duty to make sure that I got there before he
> did to possibly remove this temptation to crime - that's unless Kev
> was anywhere in the vicinity:
Sorry, I must not have been clear enough. I meant if YOU were a plod,
would YOU arrest the guy?
--
martin
It is not the same at all.
sell-by
use-by
best before
display until
Are all different and mean different things.
> It actually said: Display until/Use by 20-12-09
So it didn't say "sell-by" then? Make your mind up. In the post above
you only mentioned "sell-by" now it didn't say "sell-by" but something
totally different which means something totally different.
Ret.
Don't be stupid.
Kev
johannes
OK I see what you mean. Sell-by is often used as a colloquial term in
writings, but actually not used very much. When did you last see sell-by
on e.g. milk bottles?
nux vomica
Sorry,,,,,,, of course I was being stupid - the financial cost of
this, etc. etc. .........how many Fixed-Penalty Notices did you give
him then ....?
<nux vomica>
nux vomica
wrote:
> nuxvomicawrote:
That's why I would never be a plod, I simply would not want to be
called upon or expected to make such decisions and to deal with all
the attendant aggro etc - far too stressful!
<nux vomica>
tim....
"Graham Murray" <news...@gmurray.org.uk> wrote in message
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> Vicko Zoomba <vicko_...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> Recently I took 26 pallets of mixed produce to the UKs leading
>> supermarket retailers distribution depot and I returned with 26
>> pallets of returns of carrots. The returns were because their "sell
>> by" date only had a few days to run. When I got back to the depot, the
>> company had its workers re-bag the produce (with a new sell by date
>> stamped on the bags) and delivered to the retailer as new produce. The
>> retailer wasnt aware of this and nor should they be. The produce was
>> carrots which keep for weeks as most folk know.
>
> So why were the carrots not marked with a realistic, longer, sell by
> date in the first place? If the fruit or vegetables will keep for N
> weeks after being pulled/picked then they should have a "use by" or
> "best before" (not a sell by) date of N weeks after they are
> pulled/picked.
Yesterday, I bought a pack of carrots marked down to 10p because they were
sell by "today". They are marked best before tomorrow, but there's
absolutely nothing wrong with them. They will keep in my fridge for at
least 10 days if I were so minded.
tim
tim....
"Mr X" <inv...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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I have. It started life frozen:-(
tim
Turk182
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Well, here is someone who takes the law into his own hand:
"The priest who urged the poor to shoplift has been drenched with a
bucket of spaghetti and ravioli by a protesting parishioner.
Father Tim Jones, 42, had already caused an outcry by delivering a
Christmas sermon telling people to steal from big stores rather than
turn turn to burglary, mugging or prostitution.
But Tim Stot, 48, left him red-faced by throwing the pail containing
30 cans of supermarket pasta outside CofE St Lawrence and St Hilda in
York.
Mr Stot said: "I was offended by what he said and felt it was a
protest worth making even if it were construed as assault."
Unhurt Fr Jones, who has not reported the incident, said: "It was a
scary and humbling experience - just as he intended."
How long before someone raviolies Stot? Soon I hope.
Turk182
Charles Bryant
Vicko Zoomba <vicko_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
}It's an absolute sin the amount of food thats wasted in this country.
}The moronic food buyers in supermarkets who wont accept conjoined
}morons should really have been alive in the war years where nothing
}was wasted but as it is we have graduates who come into the management
}team straight from a comfy chair into a comfy chair and who have
}absolutely no idea of the real world.
Even if supermarket customers refuse to buy odd shaped carrots, that
doesn't mean that such carrots are necessarily wasted. There are lots
of products, such as carrot soup, which are manufactured and which can
use ingredients which are not suitable for retail sale.