Is it legal to sell whole prawns by the pint?

[MM]

Depending on the size, you don't get the same weight every time. I
reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van still
sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint or
half-pint. I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
whether I have a case, legally.

MM

[Phi]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for £8

[MM]

Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen
whole prawns from Tesco for �5. But normally I get them from the fish
van, but she didn't come today. And she sells them by the pint.

MM

[Phi]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:06:44 -0000, "Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>> Depending on the size, you don't get the same weight every time. I
>>> reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van still
>>> sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint or
>>> half-pint. I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
>>> whether I have a case, legally.
>>>
>>> MM
>>

>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for Ł8

>
> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen

> whole prawns from Tesco for Ł5. But normally I get them from the fish

> van, but she didn't come today. And she sells them by the pint.
>
> MM

Have you weighed the amount you get in a pint, perhaps average it over a few
purchases, it could be better value.

[tim.....]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:06:44 -0000, "Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:s6qae8li2bm0lk219...@4ax.com...
>>> Depending on the size, you don't get the same weight every time. I
>>> reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van still
>>> sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint or
>>> half-pint. I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
>>> whether I have a case, legally.
>>>
>>> MM
>>

>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for Ł8

>
> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen

> whole prawns from Tesco for Ł5.

perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
the PP

tim

[Andy Burns]

MM wrote:

> I reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van
> still sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint

According to this website

http://ukma.org.uk/food/unfriendly-practices

Seafood can be sold by either weight or volume, but they should be using
metric not imperial units.

Dig through this little lot for chapter and verse

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/all?theme=weights-and-measures

[Mentalguy2k8]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>

I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
> whether I have a case, legally.

Depends if you can find someone to take your complain seriously

[Trelawney]

"MM" wrote in message news:29uae81u8jjhenc2h...@4ax.com...

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Prawn or Shrimp prices depend on their size, you cant do a price comparison
without knowing the sizes.

[MM]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:06:30 -0000, "Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote:

>
>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:06:44 -0000, "Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:s6qae8li2bm0lk219...@4ax.com...
>>>> Depending on the size, you don't get the same weight every time. I
>>>> reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van still
>>>> sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint or
>>>> half-pint. I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
>>>> whether I have a case, legally.
>>>>
>>>> MM
>>>

>>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for £8

>>
>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen

>> whole prawns from Tesco for £5. But normally I get them from the fish

>> van, but she didn't come today. And she sells them by the pint.
>>
>> MM
>
>
>Have you weighed the amount you get in a pint, perhaps average it over a few
>purchases, it could be better value.

That is what I shall do next Thursday when she'll be back after the
New Year, hopefully. Still, just ate some of the Tesco prawns (needed
to thaw them out for a couple of hours) and they tasted great.

MM

[MM]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:15:27 -0000, "tim....."
<tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:29uae81u8jjhenc2h...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 12:06:44 -0000, "Phi" <phi...@inbox.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:s6qae8li2bm0lk219...@4ax.com...
>>>> Depending on the size, you don't get the same weight every time. I
>>>> reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van still
>>>> sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint or
>>>> half-pint. I've been wanting to complaint for ages, but don't know
>>>> whether I have a case, legally.
>>>>
>>>> MM
>>>
>>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for Ł8
>>
>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen
>> whole prawns from Tesco for Ł5.
>
>perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>the PP

Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!

MM

[MM]

How about the owner of the fish van?

MM

[Svenne]

On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:05:48 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


>>>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for Ł8
>>>
>>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen
>>> whole prawns from Tesco for Ł5.
>>
>>perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>>the PP
>
>Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!

Maybe Tesco have higher overhead costs than some woman who wheels a
wheelbarrow through streets broad and narrow.

[Phi]

"Trelawney" <trel...@wick.com> wrote in message
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The price comparison can be done on weight only, assuming the carapace to
meat ratio is fairly constant over a range of sizes.

[Martin]

On 03/01/2013 15:06, Phi wrote:
>
> "Trelawney" <trel...@wick.com> wrote in message

>> Prawn or Shrimp prices depend on their size, you cant do a price
>> comparison without knowing the sizes.
>
> The price comparison can be done on weight only, assuming the carapace
> to meat ratio is fairly constant over a range of sizes.

I'd expect the mass of meat to go up with the cue of the linear
dimensions and the mass of carapace to go up by the square. Either way
up you pay a darn lot more for 20 in a kilo prawns than you do for 50 or
100 in a kilo

[MM]

On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:44:32 +0200, Svenne <tvaer...@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:05:48 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>

>>>>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for £8

>>>>
>>>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen

>>>> whole prawns from Tesco for £5.

>>>
>>>perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>>>the PP
>>
>>Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!
>
>Maybe Tesco have higher overhead costs than some woman who wheels a
>wheelbarrow through streets broad and narrow.

She actually drives a modern van from Wisbech.

MM

[Phil L]

Are you sure it's a pint and not half a litre?

[Svenne]

I must have been thinking of her great grandmother then.

[AndyW]

On 03/01/2013 14:05, MM wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 13:15:27 -0000, "tim....."

>> perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>> the PP
>
> Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!

Assuming the same prawns then yes but without further information on
them you cannot say you were done, it all depends upon whether they are
wild, farmed, cold water, deep water, fresh, frozen, shelled, unshelled,
cooked, raw.......

Andy

[AndyW]

On 03/01/2013 14:44, Svenne wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:05:48 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>

>>>>> Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for �8

>>>>
>>>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen

>>>> whole prawns from Tesco for �5.

>>>
>>> perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>>> the PP
>>
>> Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!
>
> Maybe Tesco have higher overhead costs than some woman who wheels a
> wheelbarrow through streets broad and narrow.

We are talking about prawns and not cockles and mussels.

Andy

[Phi]

There's a good chance they are the same product and supplied by the same
distributor, particularly in the unusual sized 650g bags.

[MM]

On Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:52:08 +0200, Svenne <tvaer...@aol.com>

wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:50:25 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:44:32 +0200, Svenne <tvaer...@aol.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:05:48 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for �8
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen
>>>>>> whole prawns from Tesco for �5.
>>>>>
>>>>>perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g as
>>>>>the PP
>>>>
>>>>Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!
>>>
>>>Maybe Tesco have higher overhead costs than some woman who wheels a
>>>wheelbarrow through streets broad and narrow.
>
>>She actually drives a modern van from Wisbech.
>
>I must have been thinking of her great grandmother then.

Well, whatever works for you...

MM

[MM]

Cooked, whole prawns caught in the North-West Atlantic it says on the
packet. So I'd say, pretty much identical. Not surprising. Tesco is
way more expensive than Asda for food.

MM

[MM]

On Thu, 3 Jan 2013 22:49:16 -0000, "Phil L" <neverc...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Yes. She has a pint and a half-pint beer glass (with handle) that she
measures 'em with. Plus, the price list on the wall of the van states
they're sold that way. Daft, really, because she weighs all the other
fish on her digital scales in grammes. Old habits die hard, don't
they? But I'd still prefer to buy by weight, not volume. Hey! Just had
a brainwave! If I buy half a pint every week for three weeks and weigh
them and find a discrepancy of more than just 2 - 3 grammes, I've got
a case, haven't I!

MM

[tim.....]

"Andy Burns" <usenet....@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote in message
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> MM wrote:
>
>> I reckon prawns should be sold by weight, but our local fish van
>> still sells prawns, cockles, whelks and brown shrimps by the pint
>
> According to this website
>
> http://ukma.org.uk/food/unfriendly-practices
>
> Seafood can be sold by either weight or volume, but they should be using
> metric not imperial units.

I thought HMG had given up the idea of forcing people to be metric martyrs

tim

[tim.....]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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This is not my experience.

Asda is the closest major supermarket to me so I sometimes walk there rather
than have to drive to one of the others

I almost never find anything there on my shopping list that is cheaper than
Sainsburys/Tesco

YMMV (well it obviously does)

tim

[AlanG]

No
the UK has an opt out to allow stuff tradtionally sold in pints/half
pints to continue

[Graham.]

Does she swear like a fishwife?

--
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

[Svenne]

Maybe she diversified.

[MM]

On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:15:35 -0000, "tim....."
<tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>I almost never find anything there on my shopping list that is cheaper than
>Sainsburys/Tesco

Depends on what you buy, I suppose. But I'm always amazed that Asda
can sell so cheaply when Tesco often charges two or threepence more
(or even more) for the same products.

I don't buy cook/chill meals very often, but the Asda ones are way
cheaper than Tesco's. Mind you, the other day I bought a pack of Nasi
Goreng in the chiller (not frozen) cabinet at Aldi and it was VERY
tasty. Cooked rice, bits of leek, spring onion, scrambled egg (as per
a typical Nasi Goreng) and lots of cubes of ham. Got three meals out
of the 800g pack which cost �2.49. Just needs three minutes in the
microwave or non-stick pan. Delicious!

MM

[tim.....]

"MM" <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message

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> On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:15:35 -0000, "tim....."
> <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I almost never find anything there on my shopping list that is cheaper
>>than
>>Sainsburys/Tesco
>
> Depends on what you buy, I suppose.

Fresh - fruit/veg/meat/fish/bakery. I'll conceded that Asda bakery is a bit
cheaper than Tesco, but the rest is much the same

Small number of branded items that seem to be "price-checked" to the penny
by all the supermarkets, even Waitrose sells them for the same price!

Some own brand items that I am happy with the quality. Having had some bad
experiences with alternative "no name" brands I stick with what I have
tested here (as long as they are a significant discount over the branded
alternative, trialling a new brand for an extra 2p off isn't worth it).
Some items I'll buy Tesco's and not Sainsbury's' and some items it's vv.

I don't buy non-food items [1] in the main supermarkets, I have established
that I get much better value in Aldi/Lidl/Pound shop for such items and as
long as they work who cares what they "taste" like (though smell is
obviously the differentiator here).

tim

[1] except clothes, can't beat "three (coloured) shirts for 10 pound"
anywhere!

[Partac]

"AndyW" wrote in message
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On 03/01/2013 14:44, Svenne wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jan 2013 14:05:48 +0000, MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>>>> Asda sell them by weight, I bought cooked whole prawns @1300g for �8
>>>>
>>>> Then I've been had! Only a couple of hours ago I bought 650g of frozen
>>>> whole prawns from Tesco for �5.
>>>
>>> perhaps my maths is faulty but I make that 10 pounds for the same 1300g
>>> as
>>> the PP
>>
>> Therefore mine from Tesco were dearer!
>
> Maybe Tesco have higher overhead costs than some woman who wheels a
> wheelbarrow through streets broad and narrow.

And far, far better purchasing power - ask any farmer who supplies Tesco (or
any other supplier, for that matter)

[MM]

On 5 Jan, 09:44, MM <kylix...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jan 2013 10:15:35 -0000, "tim....."
>

Bought 1/2 pint yesterday for £1.20 (fish van). Got 'em home and
weighed 'em. 138g

So a little more expensive than the frozen whole prawns from Tesco.
However, the ones from the van are bigger and more meaty.

By the way, I also bought a fresh, dressed crab off the van, never
before having tasted crab or lobster. I thought it was well overrated.

MM

[MM]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:25:26 -0800 (PST), MM <kyli...@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

And the crab cost £3.25, so it wasn't cheap. These were crabs caught
off the north Norfolk coast. Maybe lobster tastes better?

MM