Stigma.
Rupert Bear
are all saints?
Are we all brainwashed into thinking they are so very special,, better
than other normal human beings..
They are not and it has been my experience that they are so glutted
and corrupted by their own power and
influence that they can abuse and use their trust with impunity..
The moment you leave their clinic or examination room they can
introduce any old thing they wish
into your medical records and from that point on you are stuck with it
as a truth which did not necessarily happen.. AND YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW
IT IS THERE..
My GP's asked if I was responsible for an annonymous nasty they
recieved in their prescription box,,
it was not me and it seemed unimportant to me at the time,, until
over a year later,,I went to hospital for a simple hernia repair..!
And that is how it works out if you get red flagged or they think you
made a nasty complaint against them,,
everything is done by the books until you are unconcious and
vulnerable on the operation table..
When you are unconcious on the operating table they can arrange to
have their mates in hospital fuck you over..
That is what happened to me,,, I was trolleyed directly into the
training system like a resource or piece of meat for training
purposes..
The consultant i was referred to for my hernia operation was not even
there during my surgery,, the consultant urologist was there instead
with loads of trainees,, and what is more,, he signed in the other
consultants name in my operational notes..
I got seriously fecking mangled in places most guys don't even know
they have places..
And do you know what,, I could not do one single thing about it
because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
well I am not quite sure why,, none of the lawyers would tell me why,
before they dropped me..
It just so happened that my younger brother went to school with a guy
who became a Scottish Editor,,, and that he married the girl who
became the practice manager of the very same medical practice i wished
to sue..
My little brother came back from London with a wife an two little
boys,, he had evolved into a social worker faceless suit type of the
system and she was an upstanding do-gooder who went out to meet the
clients..
They resumed his old social contacts which now included my GP's
practice manager..
For fifty years I never had any trouble with the GPS until that
little shit of a brother came back with his do-gooder social-worker
wife and that was when it all started..
I used to have a few grumbles to her because my GPs had gone queer on
me,, an she was feeding back the entertaining gossip that was causing
it all, to her social advantage..
What happend was that my younger brother and/or his wife sold the law
of the land away from under my feet without any intimation to me at
all to protect their friends..
And I do not know if it was third party consent,, mental health
law,,family law,, a denial of it ever happening,, or an acceptance
that it happened for a reason.. I do not have a clue what it is that i
am up against..
In short it is 100% completely and totally immpossible for me to
defend myself from powers that are being used against me without my
intimation..
Rapists and child molestors are allowed a chance to defend themselves
but I am not..
It has either been judged in secret that I am not entitled/or fit to
know about my own healthcare or all the solicitors in Scotland are a
fecking bunch of corrupted lying baistards..
Something is working against me without any intimation and I really
could do with some help from somebody here cos there aint no solicitor
who will tell me or advise me about what is going on..
It seems to me that..
LAW HAS EVOLVED INTO A CONVENIENCE OF THE STATE..
HOW DOES ONE DEFEND ONESELF AGAINST THAT WHICH IS NOT MADE KNOWN TO
YOU..??
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The Todal
> Is there a stigma against sueing doctors,, do you really think they
> are all saints?
No, doctors and hospitals are often sued, and they or their insurers often
pay up. Next question?
> Are we all brainwashed into thinking they are so very special,, better
> than other normal human beings..
No. No sensible person would think so.
> They are not and it has been my experience that they are so glutted
> and corrupted by their own power and
> influence that they can abuse and use their trust with impunity..
>
> The moment you leave their clinic or examination room they can
> introduce any old thing they wish
> into your medical records and from that point on you are stuck with it
> as a truth which did not necessarily happen.. AND YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW
> IT IS THERE..
>
> My GP's asked if I was responsible for an annonymous nasty they
> recieved in their prescription box,,
> it was not me and it seemed unimportant to me at the time,, until
> over a year later,,I went to hospital for a simple hernia repair..!
>
> And that is how it works out if you get red flagged or they think you
> made a nasty complaint against them,,
> everything is done by the books until you are unconcious and
> vulnerable on the operation table..
>
> When you are unconcious on the operating table they can arrange to
> have their mates in hospital fuck you over..
Oh dear, in what way exactly?
> That is what happened to me,,, I was trolleyed directly into the
> training system like a resource or piece of meat for training
> purposes..
>
> The consultant i was referred to for my hernia operation was not even
> there during my surgery,, the consultant urologist was there instead
> with loads of trainees,, and what is more,, he signed in the other
> consultants name in my operational notes..
>
> I got seriously fecking mangled in places most guys don't even know
> they have places..
> And do you know what,, I could not do one single thing about it
> because,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
> well I am not quite sure why,, none of the lawyers would tell me why,
> before they dropped me..
It sounds as if your real complaint is about the lawyers who didn't explain
the facts or the law properly to you. Did you want to explain the facts and
quote from the letters that were sent to you?
Special Care
"Confessions of a Medical Heretic"
and
"Mal(e)Practice"
Out of fashion now, as we saw things in sharp focus in the 1980s, and
now it's fashionable to see things hazily.
Special Care
In reply to:
https://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/browse_thread/thread/aa960a0757c3590/de97483c1a4c9a18?hl=en#de97483c1a4c9a18
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If you make a complaint against the health service, NHS or private, or
are suspected of causing offence to them in some way, word gets
around, at least regionally, and you could be ‘a marked man,’ denied
access to services you are entitled to and ‘flagged’ for possible
retaliation.
As for doctors abusing people who are helpless on the operating
table…. I know Dr Robert Mendelsohn died on the operating table when
he seemed to his readers to be in robust health, but beyond that
nobody will say anything about it. A lot of medical / vivisection
profiteers wanted Dr Robert Mendelsohn out of the way.
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I’m also reminded of Patrick Hackett.
His case is just obliquely relevant to what you described, and is
quite interesting, although very much a taboo subject in both England
and Ireland.
Patrick Hackett is the man who never was. Nobody wants to talk about
him. He’s an embarrassment to all.
In the 1970s, Dotty O’Connell, IRA boss in Dublin, was recruiting
ignorant, impressionable young southern Irish boys to go over to
London to blow up as many innocent civilians as possible, as part of
their ‘struggle for freedom’….
At about 4.30 pm one sunny day in 1975, Patrick Hackett got onto the
‘underground’ train at a northern terminal, Upminster, carrying a bomb
timed to explode later in central London in a crowded carriage at the
height of the rush hour (with Patrick Hackett intending to be at a
safe distance from it). A few miles outside Upminster, the bomb
started to smoke and exploded prematurely, as Patrick Hackett
desperately threw it away from him toward the other end of the
carriage. The train stopped between stations. Patrick Hackett ran
away, covered in blood. When locals approached him to try to help him,
he pointed a gun at them screaming: “English bastards.”
Patrick Hackett did time in an English jail, minus an arm and a leg.
This raises some interesting questions.
You know how high above the ground those London trains are. Between
stations, with no platform, it’s a bit difficult to get out of them,
and then to run away, especially if you are so badly injured that you
later are judged by doctors to need amputation of an arm and a leg.
You see the contradiction. How did Patrick Hackett get out of the
train between stations and run away, if he was so badly injured that
he later needed an arm and a leg amputated?
He was under police guard when taken to hospital. Nod nod, wink wink.
If his bomb had gone off in a crowded carriage in central London, as
he intended, many innocent people would have lost arms and legs. Nod
nod, wink wink.
I often used those London trains in the 1970s. Although I’m a man who
can get agitated about corruption and injustice, I’ve not shed any
tears over Patrick Hackett’s arm and leg. I doubt if any civil
rights / malpractice lawyer or campaigner, of whatever nationality,
would want to complain on his behalf, then or now. It’s a taboo
subject. Not much fun being Patrick Hackett, the man who never was,
the man who is only an embarrassment to everybody.
Rupert Bear
> In reply to:https://groups.google.com/group/uk.legal/browse_thread/thread/aa960a0...
Well,,
I never heard of Hackett before,,, but if he got done unkindly on the
table,,, at least he would have known why...
If I had ever done anything against my GP's,, one might be able to
rationalise and say OK. fair doo's...
But I have no such luxury of having deserved it in any way,,,
the circumstances of my complaint are completely unacceptable and
intolerable...
I have been meaning to get back to this thread for a while but todal
asked a question about letters and i am having difficulty trying to
locate them...
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Rupert Bear
The Todal
Sorry, I still don't understand what your case is about.
Hypothetically, if you are saying that whilst having a hernia operation you
also underwent some urological procedure that you had not authorised, which
caused some sort of damage to you, then you would have a good claim for
compensation. But at the very least you would first need a medical report
stating what sort of injury you had, and confirming that it was of a sort
that could be caused by medical students doing a training procedure.
Rupert Bear
>
> Sorry, I still don't understand what your case is about.
>
> Hypothetically, if you are saying that whilst having a hernia operation you
> also underwent some urological procedure that you had not authorised, which
> caused some sort of damage to you, then you would have a good claim for
> compensation. But at the very least you would first need a medical report
> stating what sort of injury you had, and confirming that it was of a sort
> that could be caused by medical students doing a training procedure.
I have four records of my trying to find help and not getting any
during that first week..
Did I tell you I had photos,, ??
And where do you suppose I can get an honest opinion like that from,,
A Doctor..??
Don't be niave,, it was my GP's set me up for it.. they have a very
long term relationship with the Urologist in question..
You cannot see what an overdose of nerve block looks like...
you have to learn that for a nerve block to last a week,, unseen nerve
damage can occur..
Blood ciculation has to be severely restricted to make it last so
long,, it is called vassoconstriction
and is a terrifying unkown and unexplained consequence of sneaky
urolgy that has not been made known to you..
Why do you think the only medication not signed for is the very nerve
block i was complaining about..
It would not even be needed for a legitimate examination dont you
know,,, it is only required to treat a person without them knowing...
In their arrogance they expect to tell you it was down to the hernia
repair..
Also the aneasthatist present was the registered tutor at that
hospital..
Look an ask youself why the urologist signs in the other consultants
name..
Training brings in revenue to the Hospital i think,,
I tell you I have two insanely superior minded social workers who
happen to be socially
connected with the very same GP i was trying to sue..
This thing really happened,, and I was sold out by my own family in
some way to protect
them, and there is no medical lawer who can even discuss it
with me,, i got fobbed off every time,,
The GPs and my family were all having fun at my expense,, I used to
baby sit for them regular..
All of a sudden when i want to sue the docs,, my brother starts trying
to persuade my mother that i had a mental health problem,,
but they did not mind me baby sittin..an if you knew these two,, it
would not happen if they really believed i had problems....
I think third pary consent may be involved..I really do.. my brother
is a serious little man in a big suit job..
Somebody put an anonymous nasty in their prescriptions box and one of
the GP's asked if it was me..
It all leads back to the practice and the worst kind of betrayal of
trust,, prejudice..
Bad things happen when your GPs nose gets out of joint,, they get very
upset..
I have a note where my gp actually writes down that he was angry,,
not with me in thiat instance,, one of his partners..
But he has a bad temper, I know that..
Hospitals do not treat just anyone like this ,, it happens because of
the GP's
influencing them,, that is how it works,, they advise the hospital..
They advise everyone around a person any way they like,, in confidence
of course..
It is called making a cunt out of a person in any mans language..
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The Todal
With the greatest of respect, you are waffling and asking for sympathy but
you still haven't set out what your case is about. I could tell you how to
pursue your claim and which lawyers and which doctors might be able to help.
But as you haven't given enough information, I don't think you seriously
believe you have an arguable claim.
Rupert Bear
> >> Sorry, I still don't understand what your case is about.
>
> >> Hypothetically, if you are saying that whilst having a hernia
> >> operation you also underwent some urological procedure that you had
> >> not authorised, which caused some sort of damage to you, then you
> >> would have a good claim for compensation. But at the very least you
> >> would first need a medical report stating what sort of injury you
> >> had,
six months..
There are other permanent phisical injuries..
>
The body heals but not completely as it should be..
>
> > Did I tell you I had photos,, ??
>
> And where do you suppose I can get an honest opinion like that from,,
> A Doctor.. They have all been connsistently lying to me...
> >it was my GP's set me up for it.. they have a very
> long term relationship with the Urologist in question..
>
> I could tell you how to
> pursue your claim and which lawyers and which doctors might be able to help.
> But as you haven't given enough information, I don't think you seriously
> believe you have an arguable claim.
How do you expect me to clearly explain to you, that which has not
been made known,, even to me,,,
I am afraid you actually have to do some thinking here..
For one thing it is probably illegal for one consultant to sign in
anothers name..
Look at the notes and handwriting samples and see if you are able to
apply some
deductive reasoning...
How can I show you or anyone else for that matter nerve damage,, but
that is a result from a nerve block that lasts for a week..
Why do you think the nerve block was not signed for,,,
Do you not understand the level of assault,, to come out of hospital
knowing full well that something else went on besides your hernia
repair
and then find the whole world trying to hammer another reality into
place,, and then discover several months down the road that your
sister-in-law knows more than you do about your own medical
treatment..
If you cannot see where i am with this then you need to wake your own
ideas up a bit..
The cruelest cut of all is that another person can be placed in charge
of your decisions without any intimation to you,,
I think I may even have gone in with third party consent for the
urolgy,,
in which case you end up with a piece of meat on the table with no
legal rights of his own,,
and then used for training,,?
Waffling indeed....Think about it..
The GPs have cut me out of the information loop and put
my nodding-dog brother in my stead, without intimation..
I will tell you again,, my family are closely involved with the very
same GP's I would sue..
And I will ask again...
HOW DOES ONE DEFEND ONESELF AGAINST THAT WHICH IS NOT MADE KNOWN TO
YOU ...
TTFN..
Jethro
>
> Sorry, I still don't understand what your case is about.
>
> Hypothetically, if you are saying that whilst having a hernia operation you
> also underwent some urological procedure that you had not authorised, which
> caused some sort of damage to you, then you would have a good claim for
> compensation. But at the very least you would first need a medical report
> stating what sort of injury you had, and confirming that it was of a sort
> that could be caused by medical students doing a training procedure.
Isn't an unauthorised medical procedure (undertaken in a situation
where the patient was able to give/deny consent) assault, plain and
simple ?
The Todal
Yes, but the trouble seems to be that although he believes that this
happened, it probably didn't. Given that he agrees he was unconscious at
the time, somehow he would have to prove that he was assaulted and the
evidence would best come from a doctor.
Obviously if a doctor says there is no evidence of any assault or
unauthorised procedure, Rupert will be tempted to say that it's because
doctors all cover up each others' mistakes and misdeeds.
Rupert Bear
Unauthorised treatment is assault ,, supposedly supported by law
in Scotland,, it is a very serious matter...
But I would ask anyone looking at this thread not to be blinkered by
what happened in
Hospital,,
It is the GP's who advise the hospital,, it is the GP'swho advice a
persons family behing your back,,
and mine just happen to friends of the very same medical practice..
My younger brother went to school with the guy who married the
practice manager..
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Rupert Bear
> > Isn't an unauthorised medical procedure (undertaken in a situation
> > where the patient was able to give/deny consent) assault, plain and
> > simple ?
> Yes, but the trouble seems to be that although he believes that this
> happened, it probably didn't.
You are no position to make that supposition...
Given that he agrees he was unconscious at
> the time, somehow he would have to prove that he was assaulted and the
> evidence would best come from a doctor.
We did mention that surgery without consent was a crime in Scotland,,,
> Obviously if a doctor says there is no evidence of any assault or
> unauthorised procedure,
By these same rules no criminal would ever be found guilty if all they
had to do
was deny that something happened..
>Rupert will be tempted to say that it's because
> doctors all cover up each others' mistakes and misdeeds.
In this case they do,, the shit has hit the fan an they all take
cover...
The truth can be found in the paperwork I make available..
Which you consistently fail to acknowledge...
I am afraid you will not find a Dr's confession in there...
But...
That the Urology Consultant signed in the name of the Training
Consultant
is pretty damming evidence,, graphology is legal evidence,, as far as
I know,,
don't say i have no evidence..
And... that an anti-biotic medication specifically favoured for
urology has been used and then wrongfully presented as
an anti-emetic is also pretty damming... all the more so when it can
once again be seen to be to be in the urologists handwriting..
And as the primary physical assault is the singularly perverse and
unnecessary use
of an extremely long lasting nerve block and then sent home without
being told..,,,
THAT NO DOCTOR WILL SIGN HIS NAME TO THAT 20MLS BUPIVICAINE 0.15 NERVE
BLOCK IS EXTREAMELY DAMMING
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES,,, IT IS EVEN RECORDED IN A CRITICAL INCIDENT
BOX..
The points mentioned above are accumulative and any decent medical
lawyer should have been able to have good day with them..
But there is something else in the picture,, it is third party family
involvement of some sort,, which as it is not made known
to me ,, I cannot possible defend mysel against..
But Hey Ho Toady,, you have not disappointed,,
you help to demonstrate the torture of trying to deal with this
situation very well..
Endlessly shunted off with poor excuses and faulty logic
when one has clear and obvious proof that one is correct is a form
of mental assault I hope you shall experience for yourself one day..
If you cannot acknowledge documented facts placed in front of your
eyes
then you have no business offering legal advice here...
Others Take Note,, The Continued Apathy Enables...
It to become ever increasingly likely that others will have this same
experience
with the availabilty and convenience of legislation that makes secret
decisions
possible..
You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him think..
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Rupert Bear
>
>
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>
> http://s867.photobucket.com/albums/ab239/rupert-bear-2010/Miasma%20of...
>
> THAT NO DOCTOR WILL SIGN HIS NAME TO 20MLS
> BUPIVICAINE 0.15 NERVE BLOCK IS EXTREMELY DAMMING
> UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES,,,
>IT IS EVEN RECORDED IN A CRITICAL INCIDENT BOX..
>
> The points mentioned above are accumulative and any decent medical
> lawyer should have been able to have good day with them..
> But there is something else in the picture,, it is third party family
> involvement of some sort,, which as it is not made known
> to me ,, I cannot possibley defend myself against..
>
> But Hey Ho Toady,, you have not disappointed,,
> you help to demonstrate the torture of trying to deal with this
> situation very well..
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My brothers consider themselves respectable an succesful..
But I see them sailing oblivious over lake Placid with the wives
firmly at the helm..
I found myself trying to explain to my brothers what was wrong with my
medical treatment but it was like talkin to cattle..
I would have been better off talking to them ,,
at least one does not expect intelligence from cattle..
Time and again I tried to explain very simple an obvious logic to
him..
About four months into this madness I discovered that my younger
brothers wife
(a social worker) had been trotting back an forth to the very people I
was trying to sue..
And later I discover that she has shared her secret information with
my the older brothers wife..
The two wives are as thick as thieves..
I found that one cannot sue doctors without family support,, an the
docs just got the ladys involved and effectively
neutered my family.. It is a shocking discovery to find the very
people you turn to in times of need (family)
had actually been supporting the docs from the start..
About this time I discovered that my brothers best old
school pal was married to the practice manager of the very same
medical practise I wanted to sue....
There had been a long period where I had problems with the docs,,
and as they got worse i would have a grumble to my brothers
wife about it while i was doing jobs for them,,
like when I fitted their kitchen..
Little did I know they were socialy connected and that she had been
poking her nose into my medical affairs
without the slightest indication to me..
All I knew was that I had problems with the GP's and would have a
grumble to my brothers wife..
It all came to a head when I went for a simple hernia repair and
well,, what happened after that turned my life into a nighmare..
The hospital simply witheld the bulk of my operational notes from me
the first time I requested to view them..
An so it was eventually arranged to apply to see them again with a
witness,, my brother, I thought, might be trusted...
It turned out they had a last minute change of plan an that she would
come an be my witness instead,,
while trotting back an forth to the very same GPs i was trying to sue
in secret,, oh what fun they were all having...
Eventualy I tried to appeal to my older brother for support with his
wife present,,
and just for a short while she got nervous and gave herself away,,,
"jobs would be lost" was one of several telling comments,,it was a
justification for something she was aware of..
While me ol brother sat there chewin the cud the comments went
rite over his head..
Asleep at the wheel he was,,, needing a good ol poke in the ribs,,
with the ladys in control,,my family sold me out to the very same
GP's
I was trying to sue...
With my younger brother blindly underwritting his wife's mischief and
gossip
with his signature,, these people set out to undermine and destroy
me..
They succeeded in this so easily
with the ladys secret co-operation,, influncing and guiding the hubbys
thoughts an perceptions..
My struggle for justice was just entertainment to them and yet,,
they nearly killed me,,
It is the most profoundly destructive thing to discover
that ones consent and medical matters can be placed into
the hands of my nodding-dog social-workers family,,,,
without any intimation to me...
It was like being up against the medical mafia with all their secrets
an lies and deceipt they tormented me out of my mind with their
control..
The young surgeon at the hospital was on a training course you know,,
I did see him again,, he was waiting at a road end as i drove round to
my mothers,,
he took my picture with his phone as i drove past,
and then he tailgaited me down the road.. It was that blatent,,,,!
He was in a blue estate car belonging to one of the GPs
I wanted to sue.. I knew then that his training course was over an
that he was leaving..
They left me a broken person,, stuck with a life that was no longer my
own,, stripped of family support..
An still stuck with this insanely superior minded sister in law who
does not have to admit her meddlings
trotting into my mothers like an extension of the same medical
practise I
would sue..
You see,, the GPs only have get their noses put out of joint an bad
things can happen,, even when you are defenless under anaesthesia..
And these ones think it is funny to mess with patients they think
have messed with them.. only I did not do anything to deserve it..
It was the girly gossip getting back to the GP's
that caused my problems,, and the DR's were encouraging it..
I was eventually told about my brothers wife poking her nose in when I
registered with another practice
but it was too late.. I cannot unlock the family,, the ladies are in
control...
I have no measure for the deception and betrayal of my own family
here.
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At one point i was coming back from the shop across the road and and
saw a young woman coming towards me..
I saw her face react and she crossed to the other side of the road,,
I knew that the girl knew something about my medical dispute,, but I
did
not have a clue who she was..
And so I started checking in the electoral register lists to see who
my neighbours were in those bungalows across the road..
Would you believe it,, I identified the lady as sharing a house with
my GPs daughter only the year before,,
I have even piccies of my gps daughter visiting across the road from
me.. The house changed hands a short while after my medical dispute
started
and in effect the Gps pals had moved in accross the road from me..
That girl did know something about my medical affairs,,
I was correct,, and it is only by reading these subtle signs
that I could make any sense out of what was going on around me..
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There is a third party involvement of some kind "without my
intimation"
and I require to know what it is,, and hear why it has occured..
The way things are I think I will need a court order to get it,,
but how does one approach a Sherrif with such a problem..
I would like to know..
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Rupert Bear
Anyway after that carry on, I was looking to move in at my
mothers becauseos there was no way I could continue in my own home...
I was tidying upstairs through my mothers hoard of old things never
thrown away,,
A lifetime of hoarding to shift an make room for me,,
when I found an old card with a signature on it,, one that I really
could have done with finding thirty years earlier
but nothing positive could be found at the time...
Yep,, thats why the old thing came back again,, I found matching
handwritting to letters I downloaded from Brannen..
And at the beginning of 2009 I tried again to explain to authorities,,
my beliefs of thirty years ago..
One of my reasons was that they were now being presented as
symptoms of a mental health disorder
by my overinflated clown of a brother who never had any discussion
with me about it at all..
And I do not believe I was wrong about that either,,
never have been,, I ws just beate by circumstance
at the time....
But that is another story ,,
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