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toadw...@gmail.com
Dec 17, 2014, 3:27:05 AM12/17/14
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It was my birthday a couple of days ago and someone gave me a present of a bottle of posh brandy in a presentation box.
When I opened the box I found a security tag on the top of the bottle.
I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story" as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the door of the place anyhow I wonder?
The thing is really securely made so without the appropriate key I won't be able to get it off without breaking the bottle and losing the stuff (although I'm sure the Doc would prefer that outcome!).
When I opened the box I found a security tag on the top of the bottle.
I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story" as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the door of the place anyhow I wonder?
The thing is really securely made so without the appropriate key I won't be able to get it off without breaking the bottle and losing the stuff (although I'm sure the Doc would prefer that outcome!).
Steve O
Dec 17, 2014, 3:35:38 AM12/17/14
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can't be accused of stealing it from there) find an unoccupied till and
just pop it onto the magnet removal thingy as you pass the till.
If anyone challenges you, explain what you are doing.
Even if they suspect that you might have stolen it from somewhere else,
they have no right to detain you for theft, as they have not seen you
steal anything.
Mrcheerful
Dec 17, 2014, 3:42:28 AM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 08:27, toadw...@gmail.com wrote:
The Todal
Dec 17, 2014, 4:01:36 AM12/17/14
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wrists are weak, a Dremel.
Presumably you have considered asking the person who gave you the gift
where it was bought, so that you can then go into that shop, go to the
enquiry desk (or the manager) and explain that you want the tag removed.
Or some people claim to have managed it with a high power magnet:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Quickly-Remove-a-Store-Security-Tag/
For most people the worry is that dye will be released and will damage
the garment you've bought, but that of course doesn't matter with a
bottle of brandy.
Martin Brown
Dec 17, 2014, 4:52:14 AM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 08:27, toadw...@gmail.com wrote:
> It was my birthday a couple of days ago and someone gave me a present of a bottle of posh brandy in a presentation box.
>
> When I opened the box I found a security tag on the top of the bottle.
Probably bought online then since that is the only common way that
>
> When I opened the box I found a security tag on the top of the bottle.
security tags escape into the wild. I have had a bottle of single malt
delivered to my parents complete with the tag still on.
>
> I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story" as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the door of the place anyhow I wonder?
Asking whoever gave it to you to help get the tag off is one way or
> I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story" as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the door of the place anyhow I wonder?
obtain a Nd magnet with appropriate pulling power. I suspect it will
require the original receipt to get it unlocked.
> The thing is really securely made so without the appropriate key I won't be able to get it off without breaking the bottle and losing the stuff (although I'm sure the Doc would prefer that outcome!).
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Tony Dragon
Dec 17, 2014, 5:02:59 AM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 08:27, toadw...@gmail.com wrote:
A bottle of malt scotch delivered by Tesco, when I opened the box there
was the tag around the neck of the bottle, a large pair of cutters fixed
that, no problem.
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Graham.
Dec 17, 2014, 5:11:11 AM12/17/14
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John Collins
Dec 17, 2014, 5:26:13 AM12/17/14
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On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 8:42:28 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote:
> this precise question was asked last year, is it the same bottle?
No I wouldn't have managed to go a whole year from my previous birthday without opening it.
> this precise question was asked last year, is it the same bottle?
John Collins
Dec 17, 2014, 5:34:31 AM12/17/14
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On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:52:14 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
> Probably bought online then since that is the only common way that
> security tags escape into the wild. I have had a bottle of single malt
> delivered to my parents complete with the tag still on.
Yes looks like that.
> Probably bought online then since that is the only common way that
> security tags escape into the wild. I have had a bottle of single malt
> delivered to my parents complete with the tag still on.
The donor left it at my house all wrapped up with instructions not to open it until my BD actually dawned.
> It is actually one that stops you opening the bottle? How unsporting!
The Todal
Dec 17, 2014, 5:37:23 AM12/17/14
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plastic box of some kind, you could try putting it in a vice (or large
mole-wrench) and gradually crushing it - the glass of the bottle would
probably be strong enough to withstand the pressure.
Martin Brown
Dec 17, 2014, 5:47:48 AM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 10:37, The Todal wrote:
> On 17/12/14 10:34, John Collins wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:52:14 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
>>> Probably bought online then since that is the only common way that
>>> security tags escape into the wild. I have had a bottle of single malt
>>> delivered to my parents complete with the tag still on.
>>
>> Yes looks like that.
>>
>> The donor left it at my house all wrapped up with instructions not to
>> open it until my BD actually dawned.
I think you might have to talk to your friend to get the thing removed.
> On 17/12/14 10:34, John Collins wrote:
>> On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 9:52:14 AM UTC, Martin Brown wrote:
>>> Probably bought online then since that is the only common way that
>>> security tags escape into the wild. I have had a bottle of single malt
>>> delivered to my parents complete with the tag still on.
>>
>> Yes looks like that.
>>
>> The donor left it at my house all wrapped up with instructions not to
>> open it until my BD actually dawned.
>>> It is actually one that stops you opening the bottle? How unsporting!
>>
>> Yes it's disgraceful and it's got all sorts of little rollers on the
>> edges to make deploying a hacksaw tricky. I suppose I could put
>> superglue on the rollers so they stayed put. Doubtless though the
>> bottle would be a mess if I did that (and so probably would I).
>
> I can't visualise the tag you are dealing with but if it seems to be a
Is it a key based lock box or a magnetic one? A photo would help.
> plastic box of some kind, you could try putting it in a vice (or large
> mole-wrench) and gradually crushing it - the glass of the bottle would
> probably be strong enough to withstand the pressure.
of crushing force and bounce back. Glass is tremendously brittle and
will shatter or spall if subjected to strong compressive forces.
Putting it in a vice to make hacksawing the plastic easier would be
advisable but these things are often designed with hardened steel
rollers embedded in the plastic body so that attempts to saw through are
frustrated. It would be easier to go back to the original vendor.
Ask in uk.d-i-y and I guarantee the answer will be "angle grinder" -
also not recommended as a way in. Best bet is take it to the retailer
with a receipt or have your friend do it for you.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
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Omega
Dec 17, 2014, 6:37:48 AM12/17/14
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wrote in message
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You will need a neodymium magnet. Inexpensive and a novel extremely strong
magnet to keep. Buy easily online. Merry slurping.
omega
.........................
John
Dec 17, 2014, 6:42:47 AM12/17/14
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<toadw...@gmail.com> wrote
> When I opened the box I found a security tag on the top of the bottle.
through a fine mesh. Be careful you don't lose any though. :-)
If it's a fine malt, you can send it to me and I'll do the job for you, and
return the glass fragments to you.
John.
Richard McKenzie
Dec 17, 2014, 8:27:02 AM12/17/14
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Give it to someone else as a present
and with the money you saved buy a
bottle that you can open.
and with the money you saved buy a
bottle that you can open.
Popadalious
Dec 17, 2014, 8:45:48 AM12/17/14
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the job was to crack bottles of Scotch open and drain the liquid into
used bottles which were then sold on to dodgy landlords.
So long as the seal was unbroken everything was fine. The driver just
told the depot that he had dropped a crate off the lorry while
unloading.
Richard Tobin
Dec 17, 2014, 9:20:02 AM12/17/14
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In article <5c742ac7-1bcc-45e8...@googlegroups.com>,
consulting usenet I think I just used a big screwdriver to break the
tag apart.
-- Richard
<toadw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story"
>as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the
>door of the place anyhow I wonder?
When I had a bottle delivered from Sainsbury's with a tag on, after
>I wonder how I can get this removed without it sounding a "likely story"
>as of course I don't have a receipt - and how did it get through the
>door of the place anyhow I wonder?
consulting usenet I think I just used a big screwdriver to break the
tag apart.
-- Richard
Graham.
Dec 17, 2014, 9:53:45 AM12/17/14
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character, before realising you meant pub landlord.
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Graham.
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harryagain
Dec 17, 2014, 1:08:25 PM12/17/14
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<toadw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Given time, any security canbe removed/bypassed.
Judith
Dec 17, 2014, 2:19:17 PM12/17/14
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Go to that shop with the present in the car.
Treat yourself to another bottle of the brandy.
Back to the car.
Swap the bottles.
Back to the shop with receipt and ask them to remove the tag.
Get ratted.
Mrcheerful
Dec 17, 2014, 2:52:30 PM12/17/14
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Let It Be
Dec 17, 2014, 5:20:33 PM12/17/14
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tut, tut! :-J
Mel Rowing
Dec 17, 2014, 5:33:06 PM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 08:27, toadw...@gmail.com wrote:
which way to remove it without success. In the end I took it back to the
shop (Sainsburys) who removed it immediately with profuse apologies but
only a miniature for my trouble!
I did have my itemised till receipt to hand but nobody wanted to see it.
Derek F
Dec 17, 2014, 6:07:20 PM12/17/14
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Derek
Derek F
Dec 17, 2014, 6:14:09 PM12/17/14
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Derek
Derek F
Dec 17, 2014, 6:17:08 PM12/17/14
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On 17/12/2014 19:19, Judith wrote:
Derek
mcp
Dec 17, 2014, 6:49:44 PM12/17/14
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>So long as the seal was unbroken everything was fine. The driver just
>told the depot that he had dropped a crate off the lorry while
>unloading.
A friend works in a whisky bond. They recently discovered a batch of
>told the depot that he had dropped a crate off the lorry while
>unloading.
bottles that were a bit light, some temporary staff were putting
pinholes in the cap and having a quick drink.
These days they would want the damaged box and broken bottles back
(with the seals unopened).
Steve O
Dec 18, 2014, 2:25:13 AM12/18/14
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presentation box, I would imagine.
Martin Brown
Dec 18, 2014, 4:16:44 AM12/18/14
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door in delivery vans is not scanned for security tags.
My parents have had more than one bottle of boxed spirits with the tag
still on via home delivery service especially at this time of year!
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Jeff
Dec 18, 2014, 4:23:25 AM12/18/14
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>> You will need a neodymium magnet. Inexpensive and a novel extremely
>> strong magnet to keep. Buy easily online. Merry slurping.
>>
>> omega
>>
>> .........................
> What size or shape is needed?
> Derek
Jeff
Omega
Dec 18, 2014, 5:26:46 AM12/18/14
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"Derek F" wrote in message news:47okw.768595$JH1.7...@fx08.iad...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/N35-Super-Strong-Magnets-25mm-x-20mm-Round-Disc-Cylinder-Rare-Earth-Neodymium-/161231028377?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item258a1e4099
This would be more than adequate. Do watch out as these magnets are
extremely strong and can 'snatch' metals towards it from several inches and
literally slice a finger off. Definitely NOT for children to play with!
Have fun.
omega
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Derek F
Dec 22, 2014, 1:53:00 PM12/22/14
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I had a bottle of Champagne in my Sainsbury's shopping yesterday that
the operator forgot to take the tag off. I pointed it out to him and
asked how I would be able get it off if I had not noticed. He said that
I would not have got it out of the store when the alarm rang.
There is never anyone near the exit and if several people are exiting at
the same time I think that you would get away with it.
Derek
Martin Brown
Dec 23, 2014, 5:17:26 AM12/23/14
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On 22/12/2014 18:52, Derek F wrote:
> On 18/12/2014 09:16, Martin Brown wrote:
>> On 18/12/2014 07:25, Steve O wrote:
>>> On 17/12/2014 23:07, Derek F wrote:
>>>> How did his friend get it with the security tag still on it?
>>>> Derek
>>>
>>> By walking through the security systems with the tag inside the
>>> presentation box, I would imagine.
>>
>> Online delivery from any of the supermarkets. Stuff going out the back
>> door in delivery vans is not scanned for security tags.
>>
>> My parents have had more than one bottle of boxed spirits with the tag
>> still on via home delivery service especially at this time of year!
>>
> What did they then do?
I took it off for them using a powerful Nd magnet.
> On 18/12/2014 09:16, Martin Brown wrote:
>> On 18/12/2014 07:25, Steve O wrote:
>>> On 17/12/2014 23:07, Derek F wrote:
>>>> How did his friend get it with the security tag still on it?
>>>> Derek
>>>
>>> By walking through the security systems with the tag inside the
>>> presentation box, I would imagine.
>>
>> Online delivery from any of the supermarkets. Stuff going out the back
>> door in delivery vans is not scanned for security tags.
>>
>> My parents have had more than one bottle of boxed spirits with the tag
>> still on via home delivery service especially at this time of year!
>>
> What did they then do?
I have a small selection of tags that have escaped this way.
> I had a bottle of Champagne in my Sainsbury's shopping yesterday that
> the operator forgot to take the tag off. I pointed it out to him and
> asked how I would be able get it off if I had not noticed. He said that
> I would not have got it out of the store when the alarm rang.
> There is never anyone near the exit and if several people are exiting at
> the same time I think that you would get away with it.
> Derek
There are no tag scanners on the home delivery service side though.
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
Derek F
Dec 23, 2014, 6:50:53 PM12/23/14
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