immigrants go on hospital rampage
phil
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003382092,00.html
>>>>>>
Migrant horde in hospital rampage
A HORDE of asylum seekers went on the rampage at a hospital as they tried to
take away the body of a relative who had just died.
Scuffles broke out around the deathbed when nurses told the furious Romanian
migrants that they could not remove the corpse.
Staff said through an interpreter that a post-mortem would have to be
carried out first on the heart attack victim.
But that did not pacify the mob and police were called.
A few hours later more than 40 refugees besieged the mortuary and demanded
to view the body.
The cops were summoned again to keep order as small groups were taken to see
the dead man, who was in his 30s.
But they decided not to intervene as the mob, including young mums with
babies, turned the chapel of rest into a rubbish tip.
Cleaners had to be called in to take away heaps of litter, including paper
cups, cigarette ends, wrappers and soiled nappies.
Bosses at the 1,300-bed Walsgrave Hospital, Coventry, said they bent over
backwards to accommodate the cultural requirements of the grief-stricken
Romanians.
But one angry nurse said last night: "These people behaved diabolically.
"They had lost someone but that gave them no right to rampage through the
hospital like they did.
"The noise they made was horrendous and they left the place like a tip. They
showed no respect whatsoever for other sick and dying people in the hospital
and the chapel of rest was like a pigsty when they'd gone.
"If English people had behaved like that the police would not have just
stood by to calm things. There would have been arrests.
"It seems it's one law for the asylum seekers and another for the rest of
us.
"Hospitals shouldn't be treated like this no matter who the people are. The
whole thing was an absolute disgrace.
"They caused absolute chaos. When they first arrived they wanted to take the
body out straight away while it was still warm. But obviously that could not
be allowed.
"You don't do that in hospital in this country when there has been a sudden
death and a post-mortem is needed.
"But some of the family members went berserk and wouldn't accept it. The men
were shouting and the women were wailing.
"One woman was rolling round the floor crying and hanging on to a nurse's
leg. It was mayhem. I've never seen anything like it.
"They were aggressive to staff and trashed the mortuary waiting area. It was
left an utter disgrace and they were going in and taking pictures of the
body on the slab."
She added: "The police couldn't do a thing other than try and keep the
peace."
A woman in her 30s, who did not want to be named, was visiting her elderly
father when the first group of refugees arrived at the coronary care ward.
She said: "I've never seen or heard anything like it in my life.
"These people were upset but the noise they were making and the way they
were behaving in a hospital was horrendous.
"Men were shouting at each other, the women were screaming like babies and a
couple fainted.
"My dad and other patients on the ward were stunned by it all.
"These were all sick heart patients who should not have been subjected to
this kind of chaos."
A spokeswoman for the hospital, run by Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust,
said: "Members of the Romanian family were agitated that they could not take
the body away immediately for a swift burial, in line with their customs.
"No damage was done but litter had to be cleaned up.
"The police had to be called out twice because the situation got too much
for our security people and was very difficult for our staff."
A West Midlands Police spokesman said: "The family were clearly upset and
distressed and there was a dispute. No arrests were made."
Aramis Gunton
<ph...@nospam.v3.net> writes
>Bosses at the 1,300-bed Walsgrave Hospital, Coventry, said they bent
>over backwards to accommodate the cultural requirements of the
>grief-stricken Romanians.
Well thank the Lord they weren't Afghans or the bosses would have had to
adopt the opposite position.
>
--
Aramis Gunton
sPoNiX
>From:
>http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003382092,00.html
>
>>>>>>>
>Migrant horde in hospital rampage
>
>A HORDE of asylum seekers went on the rampage at a hospital as they tried to
>take away the body of a relative who had just died.
Check which paper the story is from...take it with a pinch of salt.
Jon°
proving to their superiors our politically correct they are, they wish to
show that they have more care for asylum-seekers then they have for us
native Brits.....Why? Because it is the only way they will get promotion and
higher wages....From Blair down the whole system is rotten through and
through.
"dave" <da...@noname.here> wrote in message
phil
"sPoNiX" <spo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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are you disputing the facts? read the quotes you muppet
>
>
>
Richard Gregory
>From:
>http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003382092,00.html
With a headline like that I think we already guessed!
>>>>>>>
>Migrant horde in hospital rampage
>
>A HORDE of asylum seekers went on the rampage at a hospital as they tried to
>take away the body of a relative who had just died.
A "horde"...right. :-)
>
>Scuffles broke out around the deathbed when nurses told the furious Romanian
>migrants that they could not remove the corpse.
>
>Staff said through an interpreter that a post-mortem would have to be
>carried out first on the heart attack victim.
>
>But that did not pacify the mob and police were called.
>
>A few hours later more than 40 refugees besieged the mortuary and demanded
>to view the body.
Oh, I thought the "horde" were their earlier. Apparently not, then.
This "Sunspeke" really does crack me up.
>The cops were summoned again to keep order as small groups were taken to see
>the dead man, who was in his 30s.
>
>But they decided not to intervene as the mob, including young mums with
>babies, turned the chapel of rest into a rubbish tip.
I see, so babies are part of a mob...
>Cleaners had to be called in to take away heaps of litter, including paper
>cups, cigarette ends, wrappers and soiled nappies.
>
>Bosses at the 1,300-bed Walsgrave Hospital, Coventry, said they bent over
>backwards to accommodate the cultural requirements of the grief-stricken
>Romanians.
>
>But one angry nurse said last night: "These people behaved diabolically.
>
>"They had lost someone but that gave them no right to rampage through the
>hospital like they did.
"Rampage through the hospital"...funny, I thought they were in the chapel.
>"The noise they made was horrendous and they left the place like a tip. They
>showed no respect whatsoever for other sick and dying people in the hospital
>and the chapel of rest was like a pigsty when they'd gone.
>
>"If English people had behaved like that the police would not have just
>stood by to calm things. There would have been arrests.
I doubt it. Imagine the headlines in The Sun
"Heartless Police Jail Grieving Relatives"
>
>"It seems it's one law for the asylum seekers and another for the rest of
>us.
I thought it was immigrants.
>"Hospitals shouldn't be treated like this no matter who the people are. The
>whole thing was an absolute disgrace.
Anyone who is faintly familiar with the goings on in A&E of a Saturday night
would regard the above as peace personified
>"They caused absolute chaos. When they first arrived they wanted to take the
>body out straight away while it was still warm. But obviously that could not
>be allowed.
>
>"You don't do that in hospital in this country when there has been a sudden
>death and a post-mortem is needed.
>
>"But some of the family members went berserk and wouldn't accept it.
"Berserk"...LOL
It's priceless
> The men
>were shouting and the women were wailing.
Not unusual for bereaved relatives who have just been told their beloved is
about to be post-mortemed
>
>"One woman was rolling round the floor crying and hanging on to a nurse's
>leg. It was mayhem. I've never seen anything like it.
>
>"They were aggressive to staff and trashed the mortuary waiting area. It was
>left an utter disgrace and they were going in and taking pictures of the
>body on the slab."
>
>She added: "The police couldn't do a thing other than try and keep the
>peace."
>
>A woman in her 30s, who did not want to be named, was visiting her elderly
>father when the first group of refugees arrived at the coronary care ward.
Would that be the mob or the horde?
>
>She said: "I've never seen or heard anything like it in my life.
>
>"These people were upset but the noise they were making and the way they
>were behaving in a hospital was horrendous.
>
>"Men were shouting at each other, the women were screaming like babies and a
>couple fainted.
>
>"My dad and other patients on the ward were stunned by it all.
>
>"These were all sick heart patients who should not have been subjected to
>this kind of chaos."
>
>A spokeswoman for the hospital, run by Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust,
>said: "Members of the Romanian family were agitated that they could not take
>the body away immediately for a swift burial, in line with their customs.
>
>"No damage was done but litter had to be cleaned up.
>
>"The police had to be called out twice because the situation got too much
>for our security people and was very difficult for our staff."
>
>A West Midlands Police spokesman said: "The family were clearly upset and
>distressed and there was a dispute. No arrests were made."
>
>
In other words, the whole thing is a load of ballcocks, as we might expect
from The Sun. They are desperate for "asylum seeker" headlines. A few months
ago, every other page was "paedophile" stuff.
They must take lessons from Goebbels. He knew that demonising a small group of
"alien" people is popular with the disenchanted masses.
Richard Gregory
What facts? The statements from "a nurse" and someone anonymous were to the
effect that some people made a lot of noise and some mess.
The statements from others say otherwise.
Was anyone actually injured in all this? Was hospital property damaged?
Apparently not. But then I guess "small group of people are noisy in hospital"
doesn't sell copies of "The Sun" so well.
If The Sun wrote headlines about (for example) "Jews" or "Pakistanis" that
they do about "asylum seekers" the authorities would come down on them like a
ton of bricks.
Stelucia
Alas, this story rings true as this behaviour is typical for Romanian
gypsies. On many occasions hospitals in Romania have been ransacked by
gypsies trying to take way the body of their deceased relative. Often
special units of the Romanian police had to intervene to disperse
them. But when Romanians complain about the problems gypsies create in
Romania and elswhere, they are branded racists by the Western media
(including British). However, when in Britain Romanian gypsies go on
rampage, they are always called Romanians and not Romanian gypsies,
for PC reasons.
phil
"Stelucia" <Stel...@altavista.net> wrote in message
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A most interesting analysis.
The problem will get a lot worse from next year when millions of these
gypsies are to be allowed to come to Britain legally and work, claim
benefits, receive free education, healthcare etc. due to the eastern bloc's
entry into the "EU" and the Labour governments policy of not placing any
restrictions on them in line with other "EU" member states. Those gypsies
from Slovenia on Newsnight a while back all said they're heading to England
ASAP !
AndyA
news:z571b.85$MS5....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net...
> >A few hours later more than 40 refugees besieged the mortuary and
demanded
> >to view the body.
>
> Oh, I thought the "horde" were their earlier. Apparently not, then.
>
> This "Sunspeke" really does crack me up.
Indeed. It always amazes me that so many people seem to
think that political correctness is the exclusive preserve of
the left.
--
AndyA
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
"Aramis Gunton" <ara...@nink.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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Titter ;-)
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
sPoNiX
wrote:
>rampage, they are always called Romanians and not Romanian gypsies,
>for PC reasons.
Gypsies are classes as a racial minority in the UK. Quite rightly it
is illegal to discriminate against them.
Richard
> From:
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003382092,00.html
>
> >>>>>>
> Migrant horde in hospital rampage
>
If this was a white family, the headline would have been "Grieving
family abused by jobsworth hospital staff"
Richard
Richard
In "Downsize This", Michael Moore tells of the story of the schoolkid
in Kansas who was denied extra credits for his extra-curricular
activities: waving "death to fags" placards at the funerals of gay men
who had died of AIDS. The parents threatened to sue the school and
they relented, awarding him his extra credits. It's political
correctness gone mad, I tell you!
Richard
Stelucia
And where is the discrimnination if they are called Romanian gypsies
or Romanian Roma? Can you explain?
Stelucia
> In article <br51b.571$dw4.4...@news-text.cableinet.net>, "phil" <ph...@nospam.v3.net> wrote:
> >
> >"sPoNiX" <spo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:3f44d4bc....@News.CIS.DFN.DE...
> >> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:45:21 GMT, "phil" <ph...@nospam.v3.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >From:
> >> >http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003382092,00.html
> >> >
> >> >>>>>>>
> >> >Migrant horde in hospital rampage
> >> >
> >> >A HORDE of asylum seekers went on the rampage at a hospital as they tried
> to
> >> >take away the body of a relative who had just died.
> >>
> >> Check which paper the story is from...take it with a pinch of salt.
> >>
> >
> >are you disputing the facts? read the quotes you muppet
>
> What facts? The statements from "a nurse" and someone anonymous were to the
> effect that some people made a lot of noise and some mess.
>
> The statements from others say otherwise.
Whose statements?
>
> Was anyone actually injured in all this? Was hospital property damaged?
Very likely
> Apparently not. But then I guess "small group of people are noisy in hospital"
> doesn't sell copies of "The Sun" so well.
>
> If The Sun wrote headlines about (for example) "Jews" or "Pakistanis" that
> they do about "asylum seekers" the authorities would come down on them like a
> ton of bricks.
What The Sun has described was a typical hospital attack and rampage
by a Gypsy clan, unfortunately a familiar occurrence in Romania
nowadays. And protecting themselves using children as a shield against
police is a well known Gypsy tactic, successfully used by Romanian
gypsies in France and Italy to rend police powerless. The Sun story
was published by all daily newspapers from Romania (major Romanian
newspapers have Internet editions). One newspaper even titled the
story: 賎ypsies from Romania attack a British hospital' although The
Sun doesn't say Gypsies were involved. But in Romania, where such
rampages have happened in the past, Gypsy way of dealing with
authorities was easily recognised
And you are quite right that authorities would have come down if the
headlines were "Jews" or "Asians" or other protected Ethnic minority.
But the CRE doesn't give a damn on Romanians (or other Eastern
European because they happen to be white) so tabloids can amalgamate
Romanians with gypsies freely and shame all Romanians in the process.
And that is a REAL discrimination nobody talks about.
joe parkin
ric...@seasalter0.demon.co.uk says...
Any *white* family that tried to take a warm body, and abused staff
would have the headline, "abusing hospital staff" and well you know
it.
Try to stop your posts swinging to the extreme or you will become an
arsehole like the opposite side arseholes who want to kill all
refugees.
The answer is in the middle as always. And treatin anyone differently
from another reinforces racism and aggravates relationships.
Richard Gregory
>> The statements from others say otherwise.
>
>Whose statements?
The ones that were included in the article.
>
>>
>> Was anyone actually injured in all this? Was hospital property damaged?
>
>Very likely
Surely the article would have said so, wouldn't it? In fact, it was just a
group of people making a lot of noise and some mess, nothing more...and thats
what the article says once you get past the absurd "rampaging horde" stuff.
>> Apparently not. But then I guess "small group of people are noisy in
> hospital"
>> doesn't sell copies of "The Sun" so well.
>>
>> If The Sun wrote headlines about (for example) "Jews" or "Pakistanis" that
>> they do about "asylum seekers" the authorities would come down on them like a
>
>> ton of bricks.
>
>What The Sun has described was a typical hospital attack and rampage
>by a Gypsy clan,
Well if it's typical, I'm sure their artcile would have pointed out similar
incidences.
> unfortunately a familiar occurrence in Romania
>nowadays. And protecting themselves using children as a shield against
>police is a well known Gypsy tactic, successfully used by Romanian
>gypsies in France and Italy to rend police powerless. The Sun story
>was published by all daily newspapers from Romania (major Romanian
>newspapers have Internet editions). One newspaper even titled the
>story: ‘Gypsies from Romania attack a British hospital'
Did said papers have reporters here, did they interview those involved, or did
they just reprint what the Sun said, with their own interpretation on things?
joe parkin
richard....@ntlworld.com says...
> Surely the article would have said so, wouldn't it? In fact, it was just a
> group of people making a lot of noise and some mess, nothing more...and thats
> what the article says once you get past the absurd "rampaging horde" stuff.
Making a noise, damaging property, making a mess and harrassing
hospital staff is ok, as long as the mob is not British? Or would it
still be ok?
You make good use of the word "just"
> >What The Sun has described was a typical hospital attack and rampage
> >by a Gypsy clan,
>
> Well if it's typical, I'm sure their artcile would have pointed out similar
> incidences.
I never read the Sun, but when reporting a rape in Britain, say by an
Asian, do they mention the rapes in Asia?
>
>
>
> > unfortunately a familiar occurrence in Romania
> >nowadays. And protecting themselves using children as a shield against
> >police is a well known Gypsy tactic, successfully used by Romanian
> >gypsies in France and Italy to rend police powerless. The Sun story
> >was published by all daily newspapers from Romania (major Romanian
> >newspapers have Internet editions). One newspaper even titled the
> >story: ‘Gypsies from Romania attack a British hospital'
>
> Did said papers have reporters here, did they interview those involved, or did
> they just reprint what the Sun said, with their own interpretation on things?
>
They know it happens in Romania as it is their own country, but it is
still a fair point if the Sun is the only paper reporting on this they
could be reprinting it.
Do you believe the incident never happened?
Richard Gregory
>In article <sEq1b.905$MS5....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
>richard....@ntlworld.com says...
>> Surely the article would have said so, wouldn't it? In fact, it was just a
>> group of people making a lot of noise and some mess, nothing more...and thats
>
>> what the article says once you get past the absurd "rampaging horde" stuff.
>
>Making a noise, damaging property, making a mess and harrassing
>hospital staff is ok, as long as the mob is not British? Or would it
>still be ok?
>You make good use of the word "just"
It is a good word after The Sun tried to dress up what is a regrettable
incident as hundreds of "asylum seekers" turning the hospital into a
battleground and wrecking it.
>
>> >What The Sun has described was a typical hospital attack and rampage
>> >by a Gypsy clan,
>>
>> Well if it's typical, I'm sure their artcile would have pointed out similar
>> incidences.
>
>I never read the Sun, but when reporting a rape in Britain, say by an
>Asian, do they mention the rapes in Asia?
They might if a particular group or prominent person if mentioned.
But it's pretty clear that the Romanian press has it's own axes to grind.
>>
>>
>>
>> > unfortunately a familiar occurrence in Romania
>> >nowadays. And protecting themselves using children as a shield against
>> >police is a well known Gypsy tactic, successfully used by Romanian
>> >gypsies in France and Italy to rend police powerless. The Sun story
>> >was published by all daily newspapers from Romania (major Romanian
>> >newspapers have Internet editions). One newspaper even titled the
>> >story: 賎ypsies from Romania attack a British hospital'
>>
>> Did said papers have reporters here, did they interview those involved, or
> did
>> they just reprint what the Sun said, with their own interpretation on things?
>>
>They know it happens in Romania as it is their own country, but it is
>still a fair point if the Sun is the only paper reporting on this they
>could be reprinting it.
>Do you believe the incident never happened?
I believe it happened. I even believe what The Sun *factually said* happened.
I was just laughing at the typical "Sunspeke" that turned a molehill into
Mount Everest to make it look far worse than it was.
Aramis Gunton
<joep...@btinternet.com> writes
>Try to stop your posts swinging to the extreme or you will become an
>arsehole like the opposite side arseholes who want to kill all
>refugees.
I think despite all the spittle you will find that quite simply the
presence of the 'refugees' is not desired.
No one seriously wants to kill them they simply require them to remain
elsewhere.
There are many people whose presence I do not attempt to attract to my
home.
I do not want to kill them I simply regard their existence within my
daily life and thought processes as anathema.
--
Aramis Gunton
joe parkin
richard....@ntlworld.com says...
> It is a good word after The Sun tried to dress up what is a regrettable
> incident as hundreds of "asylum seekers" turning the hospital into a
> battleground and wrecking it.
Yes, but it happened.Costs were incurred and distress was caused to
our nursing staff.
If the perp. were teenage drunken whites the clamour for castration
would be deafening.
> >> >What The Sun has described was a typical hospital attack and rampage
> >> >by a Gypsy clan,
> >>
> >> Well if it's typical, I'm sure their artcile would have pointed out similar
> >> incidences.
> >
> >I never read the Sun, but when reporting a rape in Britain, say by an
> >Asian, do they mention the rapes in Asia?
>
> They might if a particular group or prominent person if mentioned.
> But it's pretty clear that the Romanian press has it's own axes to grind.
As above. The Romanian press might have an axe to grind, I woulod not
know and would not like to guess.
> I believe it happened. I even believe what The Sun *factually said* happened.
> I was just laughing at the typical "Sunspeke" that turned a molehill into
> Mount Everest to make it look far worse than it was.
Yeah, apparently, thats what sells newspapers, that and glimpses of
celebrity arses and the latest cost for a haircut for Beckham.
That reminds me why I stopped buying a newspaper in 84
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
"Richard Gregory" <richard....@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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<ph...@nospam.v3.net> wrote:
>
> > The men
> >were shouting and the women were wailing.
>
> Not unusual for bereaved relatives who have just been told their beloved
is
> about to be post-mortemed
Yeh right...but not in this country, though. Most people here accept it
with quiet resignation and the British tend to deal with their grief
privately. We certainly don't go in for organised hysteria beside the
corpse.
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
Tobias Wilcox
don't express our anger or our grief publicly or in some cases not at all.
We repress our natural instincts to wail and this leads to the universal
image of the uptight Englishman, rumoured to be a terrible lover, incapable
of passion. In Europe our lack of passion is seen as the main reason we
breed so many hooligans. Lets face it, most serial killers turn out to
sexual inadequates who are usually very repressed and as a consequence, very
violent.
Maybe if we learnt to wail and cry more naturally we might have a less
violent society.
Richard Gregory
>In article <GaG1b.1473$MS5....@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
>richard....@ntlworld.com says...
>> It is a good word after The Sun tried to dress up what is a regrettable
>> incident as hundreds of "asylum seekers" turning the hospital into a
>> battleground and wrecking it.
>
>Yes, but it happened.Costs were incurred and distress was caused to
>our nursing staff.
>If the perp. were teenage drunken whites the clamour for castration
>would be deafening.
Anyone familiar with A&E will know that loud, abusive patients under the
influence of drink/drugs who disrupt work and upset staff are anything but
rare. Curiously, The Sun does not dedicate itself to reporting every single
"incident" it can find.
>> I was just laughing at the typical "Sunspeke" that turned a molehill into
>> Mount Everest to make it look far worse than it was.
>Yeah, apparently, thats what sells newspapers, that and glimpses of
>celebrity arses and the latest cost for a haircut for Beckham.
>That reminds me why I stopped buying a newspaper in 84
That's mainly what I was trying to get across.
>
>
Richard Gregory
Indeed, but acting otherwise is hardly a crime.
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
What would you call forty gypsies harassing staff and patients as they try
to bully them into handing over a corpse, then?
Or is that yet another bit of integration the British need to learn?
--
Baroness Edwina Frogbucket
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Cynic
<joep...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>Yes, but it happened.Costs were incurred and distress was caused to
>our nursing staff.
>If the perp. were teenage drunken whites the clamour for castration
>would be deafening.
Strange in that case that I have not been deafened.
This type of incident occurs very often where the perpetrators are
drunken white teenagers. Yet the Sun chooses to report a less common
incident where the perpetrators are non-white. Why do you think that
is?
--
Cynic
pencil
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Cynic
<letter...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>Cynic, or naive?
Or merely asking a rhetorical question?
joe parkin
cy...@none.none says...
> Strange in that case that I have not been deafened.
>
> This type of incident occurs very often where the perpetrators are
> drunken white teenagers. Yet the Sun chooses to report a less common
> incident where the perpetrators are non-white. Why do you think that
> is?
The hassle A&E get is disgraceful. However it tends to be drunken
a****s who are either on their own or in couples. The type of
incident here, was a riot of 40+ people, that's why the publicity.
The race card was used I agree.
Richard Gregory
more than place a reporter in the A&E of every large hospital of a Saturday
night.
Richard Gregory
No, The Sun will desperately hunt down every "asylum seeker" story it can
find, regardless of race.
joe parkin
richard....@ntlworld.com says...
>
> No, The Sun will desperately hunt down every "asylum seeker" story it can
> find, regardless of race.