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M

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Nov 17, 2011, 2:25:02 PM11/17/11
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My neighbour has an overflow pipe close to my property and it has been
overflowing with the water dropping to a poor drainage area between our two
properties and I also get water / spray being blown on to my side. I am
concerned about damp issues as the water flows for several hours until my
neighbour does a temporary fix, the problem then reoccurs the next day !

This overflow has been a problem for at least 6 years but to a lesser
extent. I have spoken to my neighbour face to face and either get helpful
comments like "its only water" or I get blanked. I have also written to him
and get no reply.

I don't think the correcting of the overflow problem has ever been addressed
properly hence the ongoing and now worsening situation.

I thought I would ask here if anybody has had a similar situation to deal
with and can offer me some advice. Thanks.

M




Nightjar

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Nov 17, 2011, 5:30:02 PM11/17/11
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Technically, it is a breach of Paragraph 16(1) to Schedule 2 of The
Water Supply (Water Fittings) Regulations 1999:

'Every pipe supplying water connected to a storage cistern shall be
fitted with an effective adjustable valve capable of shutting off the
inflow of water at a suitable level below the overflowing level of the
cistern.'

Obviously, in this case, the valve does not comply with the requirement
that it be effective.

Whether anything can be done to enforce that I have no idea, but your
local water supply company might be able to advise.

Colin Bignell
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Just zis Guy, you know?

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Nov 17, 2011, 6:55:02 PM11/17/11
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On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:25:02 +0000, "M" <longsu...@here.com>
wrote:
If the water is damaging your property then it's technically trespass,
I am told.

You should write giving him a reasonable time to remediate the problem
(realistically probably 30 days in this case, plumbers being as rare
as rocking horse manure) and notify him that if he does not fix the
problem then you will have to take the matter further, much to your
regret.

If he does not then you can apply to the court for an order to get him
to repair it. This is not a two minute job.

Guy
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Djornsk

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Nov 18, 2011, 3:30:03 AM11/18/11
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On 17/11/2011 19:25, M wrote:
In certain circumstances this can cause subsidence and so it is very
much in the interest of both/all parties to get it properly fixed.

j

GB

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Nov 18, 2011, 6:00:03 AM11/18/11
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> If the water is damaging your property then it's technically trespass,
> I am told.
>
> You should write giving him a reasonable time to remediate the problem
> (realistically probably 30 days in this case, plumbers being as rare
> as rocking horse manure) and notify him that if he does not fix the
> problem then you will have to take the matter further, much to your
> regret.
>
> If he does not then you can apply to the court for an order to get him
> to repair it. This is not a two minute job.


As a practical, cheap fix for this issue, I would do the following:

1. Grit my teeth and offer to pay for a plumber to come and fix the
overflow. If thge neighbour will allow this, it's (amazingly!) probably the
most cost-effective course. If that doesn't work, then:

2. Download the property details from the land registry (cost £4). This will
tell you who the owner is, in case it's a tenanted property. It also tells
you who the mortgagees are. You can then write to them, explaining how the
value of the propertythey have their loan secured on is being devalued. The
lender's insurance arm may also be interested as the insurers of teh
property. Basically, this is just an alternative way of exerting pressure to
get teh job done.





RobertL

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Nov 18, 2011, 11:10:04 AM11/18/11
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On Nov 17, 7:25 pm, "M" <longsuffer...@here.com> wrote:
> My neighbour has an overflow pipe close to my property and it has been
> overflowing with the water dropping to a poor drainage area between our two
> properties and I also get water / spray being blown on to my side. I am
> concerned about damp issues as the water flows for several hours until my
> neighbour does a temporary fix, the problem then reoccurs the next day !


Can you attach a hosepipe to the outlet and lead the water to a safe
place?

Robert

Ste

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Nov 18, 2011, 11:55:02 AM11/18/11
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For example, lead it back to the overflowing cistern?

GB

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Nov 18, 2011, 12:40:02 PM11/18/11
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Yes, you could do that using a perpetual motion machine. :-)



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Colin Jackson

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Nov 18, 2011, 2:15:04 PM11/18/11
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"RobertL" <rober...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:2f03e987-488f-491e...@t38g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
I admit this is what I did when I moved into a Town House in Teddington.
The looney neighbour told me to see someone else about it!
A one parent family (the husband had a good sense to leave)

Colin


steve robinson

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Nov 18, 2011, 3:35:02 PM11/18/11
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A well placed piece of chewing gum usally resolves the siuation :)

Nightjar

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Nov 18, 2011, 3:55:02 PM11/18/11
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On 18/11/2011 17:40, GB wrote:
> Ste wrote:
>> On Nov 18, 4:10 pm, RobertL<robertml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Nov 17, 7:25 pm, "M"<longsuffer...@here.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My neighbour has an overflow pipe close to my property and it has
>>>> been overflowing with the water dropping to a poor drainage area
>>>> between our two properties and I also get water / spray being blown
>>>> on to my side. I am concerned about damp issues as the water flows
>>>> for several hours until my neighbour does a temporary fix, the
>>>> problem then reoccurs the next day !
>>>
>>> Can you attach a hosepipe to the outlet and lead the water to a safe
>>> place?
>>
>> For example, lead it back to the overflowing cistern?
>
> Yes, you could do that using a perpetual motion machine. :-)

Sticking a cork in the end would be simpler, but probably not conducive
to good relations with the neighbour.

Colin Bignell

M

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Nov 19, 2011, 10:50:24 AM11/19/11
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OP HERE
Went around to see my neighbour this morning (an achievement in itself). He
says someone from his family replaced certain items in the tank yesterday,
so should be ok now, somehow I am not convinced by his comments, but will
see. I have a last ditch contingency plan if it overflows again in the near
future.

What i have noticed is large areas of cloudy stains on one of my windows,
ie; the ONLY window that gets some of his overflow, I tried to clean it
off with no success. If there is another "flow" I'll put up some plastic in
front of the glass whilst I wait for the contingency plan .

M


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