Police Email Addresses

[John]

Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?

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John

[Martin Bonner]

On Friday, January 25, 2013 11:45:04 AM UTC, John wrote:
> Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?

The ones I get from Cambridgeshire police do.
I don't know whether they *all* do.

(British Transport Police and Civil Nuclear Constabulary are
most likely to be exceptions.)

[Roland Perry]

In message <2qr4g8derp3p83qg4...@4ax.com>, at 11:45:04 on
Fri, 25 Jan 2013, John <focus594...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:

>Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?

Depends somewhat on whether they are the email addresses of functions
within the police, or individual departments/officers who may have set
up independent arrangements.

But putting such arrangements on one side for a moment...

I have several police officers in my address book whose email address is
<something>@met.police.uk, so no "pnn".

Then there are numerous who are <something>@<county>.pnn.police.uk, but
none whose county is "met", but some whose "county" is npia (etc).

And do you count SOCA as the police (officially we aren't supposed to),
who have soca.gov.uk addresses.
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Roland Perry

[Periander]

On 25-Jan-2013, John <focus594...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?

Yes if you're on a secure connection. If you're not then it's at [force] dot
police dot uk it's the same for government email addresses - where you get
[gsi] in place of the [pnn], however if you email a pnn/gsi from a non
secure connection the email will be re-routed automatically and the sender
won't notice a thing, mind you niether will the recipient.

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All the best,

Periander

[Mike Bristow]

In article <2qr4g8derp3p83qg4...@4ax.com>,

John <focus594...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?
>


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Mike Bristow mi...@urgle.com

[Periander]

On 25-Jan-2013, Roland Perry <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote:

> Then there are numerous who are <something>@<county>.pnn.police.uk, but
> none whose county is "met", but some whose "county" is npia (etc).

Substitute "force" for "county" and pnn makes more sense. "PNN" stands for
"police national network", it's a secure (well as secure as it can be)
system that allows forces and other government secure systems such as "gsi"
"government secure internet" to exchange restricted information. Baring in
mind that the classification is (in order from the bottom up) "not
protectively marked", "restricted", "classified", "secret" etc etc you can
see that only low level stuff is entrusted to it. I can assure you that the
Met, along with BTP, the Scottish forces, MODPLOD, the Dover Harbour Police
indeed all police forces in the UK bar the pretend ones run by local
councils are on the system.

When you send an email to [identity]@[force].pnn.police.uk from a secure
system then it's delivered through the pnn, if you send it via a unsecured
system then the pnn mail handling gizmos will divert the email to
[identity]@[force].police.uk ... and vice versa. Which in effect means that
the "pnn" address will always work and will the non pnn one. Additionally
although all forces follow the convention firstname.lastname@ ... (with
minor variations such as adding a number at the end for folks with the same
name) they also handle aliases in the form of "warrant number"@etc or "pay
number"@etc in the case of civil staff and some forces will also handle
"abbreviated firstname.lastname@etc" such as Andy.Smith@ instead of
Andrew.Smith@ ...

Which means that all the following would work and reach the same person ...
assuming of course there was a police officer called Jonothan Doe with a
warrant number of w12345 retained by "madeup" Police Service ...

Jonothan.Doe at madeup.pnn.police.uk
Jonothan.Doe at madeup.police.uk
w12345 at madeup.pnn.police.uk
w12345 at madeup.police.uk

and it would be likely that these would as well ...

Jon.Doe at madeup.pnn.police.uk
Jon.Doe at madeup.police.uk

The gsi network works the same way, to which we add special arrangements
with (say) local councils for the exchange of (say) child protection
information which are handled by one off systems trusted to speak with the
pnn and gsi ... at which point I'll get my hat :-)

[John]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 12:50:09 +0000, "Periander" <u...@britwar.couk>
wrote:

Thanks, it's just that I remember the pnn part appearing on two
business cards issued by seperate Police Officers (different forces)
some time ago. Doing a Google check prior to asking the question on
here gave me a Birmingham Force email address with pnn on.

Your clarification was very helpful, as it was this particular bit
that confused me slightly.

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John

[Roland Perry]

In message <b7o7g8h9qbe4ks99u...@4ax.com>, at 14:05:02 on
Sat, 26 Jan 2013, John <focus594...@yahoo.co.uk> remarked:

>>> Just a quick query. Do they all end in dot pnn dot police dot uk?
>>
>>Yes if you're on a secure connection. If you're not then it's at [force] dot
>>police dot uk it's the same for government email addresses - where you get
>>[gsi] in place of the [pnn], however if you email a pnn/gsi from a non
>>secure connection the email will be re-routed automatically and the sender
>>won't notice a thing, mind you niether will the recipient.
>
>Thanks, it's just that I remember the pnn part appearing on two
>business cards issued by seperate Police Officers (different forces)
>some time ago. Doing a Google check prior to asking the question on
>here gave me a Birmingham Force email address with pnn on.

A straw poll of the (fifty or so) police.uk email addresses in my
address book[1] shows roughly a 50:50 split between those with and
without the "pnn" in them.

[1] Which will generally be what the individuals in question wish to
propagate as their email address.
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Roland Perry

[ellisma...@gmail.com]

Leicestershire Police emails end in @leicestershire.pnn.police.uk