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Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 14, 2015, 11:28:07 AM12/14/15
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When entering a reg number into https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can someone with a newish car try and see what happens?

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Dec 14, 2015, 4:50:03 PM12/14/15
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It gives all the details for mine, eg date tax due, type of fuel and so on, but no details for MoT because it doesn't need one yet (63).

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Dec 14, 2015, 4:50:20 PM12/14/15
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On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 4:28:07 PM UTC, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
EO15 KYK, my Focus ST, shows up as taxed and "no details held" for MOT.

eastender

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Dec 14, 2015, 4:50:34 PM12/14/15
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On 2015-12-14 15:42:59 +0000, Tough Guy no. 1265 said:

> When entering a reg number into
> https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by
> DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it
> doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can
> someone with a newish car try and see what happens?

See this list for when certain vehicles need their first MOT:

https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/mot-test-fees


E.

Tim Jackson

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Dec 14, 2015, 4:55:54 PM12/14/15
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:42:59 -0000, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote...
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> When entering a reg number into https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can someone with a newish car try and see what happens?

Of course, if you'd started from the previous page
https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-status
then you would have known the answer.

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Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 14, 2015, 5:07:03 PM12/14/15
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:49:46 -0000, Tim Jackson <ne...@timjackson.invalid> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:42:59 -0000, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote...
>>
>> When entering a reg number into https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can someone with a newish car try and see what happens?
>
> Of course, if you'd started from the previous page
> https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-status
> then you would have known the answer.

Why would I have read below the big green button?

And why isn't the result "Not required" instead of "No details held"?

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 14, 2015, 5:07:23 PM12/14/15
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So do you get "No details held by DVLA"?

It should really say "Not required" or it looks like "We don't know".

zaax If you message is not archive it does not cou

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Dec 15, 2015, 6:08:39 AM12/15/15
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Why can't it show the date of the next MOT be it in a few years

R. Mark Clayton

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Dec 15, 2015, 7:24:37 AM12/15/15
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There is nothing to stop you getting one. Do you remember the chap who bought a new Lada or Skoda or similar and then had it tested [by the AA IIRC]?

Roland Perry

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Dec 15, 2015, 7:36:24 AM12/15/15
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In message <23ecb91a-2b6c-4c83...@googlegroups.com>, at
03:09:17 on Tue, 15 Dec 2015, R. Mark Clayton <notya...@gmail.com>
remarked:
>Do you remember the chap who bought a new Lada or Skoda or similar
>and then had it tested [by the AA IIRC]?

That's getting a bit close to the Flanders and Swann joke:

"We had to look outside during the interval, see if our car's all right.
It's getting a bit old, it'll have to be tested soon. You know they
started these tests for 10-year-old cars, they brought it down to six,
now five, they'll bring it down to three. There's even been some talk of
having them tested before they leave the factories."
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ChrisK

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Dec 15, 2015, 11:57:53 AM12/15/15
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Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:43:24 -0000, <ingram....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, December 14, 2015 at 4:28:07 PM UTC, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
>>> When entering a reg number into
>>> https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by
>>> DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it
>>> doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can
>>> someone with a newish car try and see what happens?
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Why do the birds fly south to Africa in the autumn?"
>>> "Because it's too far for them to walk."
>>
>> It gives all the details for mine, eg date tax due, type of fuel and
>> so on, but no details for MoT because it doesn't need one yet (63).
>
> So do you get "No details held by DVLA"?
>
> It should really say "Not required" or it looks like "We don't know".

Also, beware if you try and tax your vehicle in the same month as the
MoT expires, & before testing, is also shows "no MoT details held".

It would be more helpful, & less alarming, to say "Yes, we do have
details but your test expires before the tax is valid".

:-)

ChrisK

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 15, 2015, 5:10:34 PM12/15/15
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I may be misunderstanding your dates. Are you saying that if the MOT expires on March 20th, and you try to tax the car on March 10th for March 1st onwards, that it won't let you? It should.

Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 15, 2015, 5:10:54 PM12/15/15
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No, did it fail?

ChrisK

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Dec 16, 2015, 12:35:15 PM12/16/15
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No, I think the behaviour is correct. It was something like MoT and tax
expires 31 July. Can't tax on 15 July for August 'cos it hasn't been
tested yet. The error message "We have no record" is unhelpful when the
information is available to say "Current MoT certificate expires before
next month" - or even "No record for 1 August".

This would be a common situation for relatively new vehicle still with
its original owner, tax & MoT expiry will typically be on the same date.

ChrisK


Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 16, 2015, 5:37:33 PM12/16/15
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No that behaviour is simply wrong, there must be a fault with the page. If the MOT has not yet expired, you are not yet required to get another test. But you should not be prevented from getting up to a year's tax. Most of the time my tax and MOT are not the same date, so I always have a lot more months of one than the other.

ChrisK

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Dec 17, 2015, 12:22:39 PM12/17/15
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Seems like you are. IIRC it used to be the case that you had to present
a certificate valid at the time the tax was issued. Seems to be now
that the certificate has to be valid for the date the tax starts.

Rather pointless as the certificate only has to be valid at the start,
not during the whole period of validity. Seem to be a lot of wrinkles
with the current system as it doesn't cater well for some parts on the
process still being manual and post based (eg transfers).

ChrisK


Roland Perry

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Dec 17, 2015, 2:12:20 PM12/17/15
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In message <Ro6dnes24uKHXu_L...@brightview.co.uk>, at
14:13:57 on Thu, 17 Dec 2015, ChrisK <ne...@nonews.none> remarked:

>IIRC it used to be the case that you had to present a certificate valid
>at the time the tax was issued. Seems to be now that the certificate
>has to be valid for the date the tax starts.

And then (has it changed?) you could only buy new tax up to a fortnight
in advance, so the difference in those two dates is pretty trivial.
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Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 17, 2015, 3:09:43 PM12/17/15
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Try taxing a car that used to belong to a disabled person, then you'll see how incompetent they are. 3 months it took them to sort it out.

polygonum

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Dec 17, 2015, 3:51:00 PM12/17/15
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On 14/12/2015 15:42, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
> When entering a reg number into
> https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk it says "No details held by
> DVLA". The car I was checking is a 14 plate. Is this because it
> doesn't need an MOT, or because it doesn't have one and should? Can
> someone with a newish car try and see what happens?
>
What do you see if it is a vehicle that requires an MoT but doesn't have
one?

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Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 17, 2015, 6:17:22 PM12/17/15
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I don't know, as I don't know any reg numbers which that applies to. Anyone got a SORNed car?

Paul Cummins

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Dec 18, 2015, 5:57:26 AM12/18/15
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In article <op.x9s25...@red.lan>, n...@spam.com (Tough Guy no. 1265)
wrote:

> I don't know, as I don't know any reg numbers which that applies
> to. Anyone got a SORNed car?

Try R743AOC

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Tough Guy no. 1265

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Dec 18, 2015, 1:08:47 PM12/18/15
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On Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:31:00 -0000, Paul Cummins <agree2...@spam.vlaad.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <op.x9s25...@red.lan>, n...@spam.com (Tough Guy no. 1265)
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know, as I don't know any reg numbers which that applies
>> to. Anyone got a SORNed car?
>
> Try R743AOC

Doesn't let me continue without vehicle make.

polygonum

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Dec 18, 2015, 1:44:33 PM12/18/15
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I was rather thinking of a car that got to three years and the owner
forgot, or was abroad, or some other reason. Any old car would be likely
to have a history of MoTs so might appear differently.

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