Garage won't provide MOT certificate and I can't declare a car SORN
Peter Sinclair
practical test within a few months. As a surprise present, I bought
her a used Mazda MX5 including a year's free insurance paid for by
daddy. I picked up the car at a used car garage about 200 miles from
where I live, during a business trip, and had it delivered on a
flatbed truck to our door (it wasn't legal to drive on the road at
that stage as it was not insured or taxed).
I had the garage I bought the car at do a MOT on it for an extra £50.
It had only about 40k miles on it so it passed the MOT with no
problems. The garage said they would post the MOT certificate to me
when I paid for the car and MOT in early November 2009. I still have
not received the MOT certificate.
I tried to declare the car SORN for the next few months as my daughter
will not be able to drive it yet, but get the following error
message:
SORRY
Unable to Use Service
Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent
changes to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a
tax disc or declare SORN using this service.
You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a licence-
issuing Post Office® or DVLA Local Office (as applicable for the
vehicle) using the reminder (Vehicle Licence Application/SORN
Declaration) or the Registration Document/Certificate together with
the Insurance Certificate or Cover Note, MOT Test Certificate/GVT Test
Certificate (if applicable) and fee.
Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in the
post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
Thanks.
Peter
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"Peter Sinclair" <clea...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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SORRY
Unable to Use Service
Contact
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/AdviceOnKeepingYourVehicle/DG_4022067
Mark Goodge
keyboard and typed:
>Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
>garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in the
>post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
Phone or email the DVLA and ask them what to do next.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/dvla/contactus/vehicles_enquires.aspx
Mark
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trainmanUK
You dont need an MOT to declare SORN. The whole point of SORN is that
you are telling DVLA that the car is still in existance but not on a
public road - it does not have to be roadworthy so no MOT is needed.
Piers Finlayson
>
>
> Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
> garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in the
> post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
>
I think I read recently that you can get a duplicate certificate from any
MOT station. I think the maximum charge is �10. If you're that desperate
to get a certificate it might be worth going to another garage to get a
certificate made. Or try here:
They claim next day delivery. (I've not used these guys, and am not
recommending them.)
In any case I find it unlikely you'll need an MOT certificate (or insurance
details) to declare SORN at the post office.
Paul Cummins
<a912c996-85c9-46ed...@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
clea...@googlemail.com (Peter Sinclair) wrote:
> Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
> garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in
> the post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
You will need to apply for the tax disc or declare SORN at a licence-
issuing Post Office or DVLA Local Office, as the DVLA stated on their
web-site.
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Wasting Bandwidth since 1981
Adrian
like they were saying:
> My daughter has just had her birthday recently and will be taking her
> practical test within a few months. As a surprise present, I bought her
> a used Mazda MX5 including a year's free insurance paid for by daddy.
Will you be my daddy, too?
> SORRY
>
> Unable to Use Service
>
> Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
> to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc
> or declare SORN using this service.
Yeh, you'd expect that if there's been a very recent change of keeper -
it's to help to prevent the SORN confirmation or tax disc being sent to
the wrong address.
> Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
> garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in the
> post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
Have you had the new V5C in your name yet?
If so, then you can check online - www.motinfo.gov.uk - with the document
reference from that, to make sure it actually does have a current ticket.
A duplicate certificate is easy to obtain.
BUT - there's absolutely no linear relationship between mileage and
likelihood to pass MOT. You don't say how old the car is, but even if
it's the first test at 3yo, an expensive fail is entirely possible if the
car's been abused.
Peter Sinclair
Adrian wrote:
> Peter Sinclair <clea...@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
> like they were saying:
>
> > My daughter has just had her birthday recently and will be taking her
> > practical test within a few months. As a surprise present, I bought her
> > a used Mazda MX5 including a year's free insurance paid for by daddy.
>
> Will you be my daddy, too?
She's a skint student about to go off to university in several months
time. No other way she could afford a new car, driving lessons,
insurance and road tax.
>
> > SORRY
> >
> > Unable to Use Service
> >
> > Unfortunately, because of the tax class of the vehicle or recent changes
> > to the vehicle record, you are currently unable to apply for a tax disc
> > or declare SORN using this service.
>
> Yeh, you'd expect that if there's been a very recent change of keeper -
> it's to help to prevent the SORN confirmation or tax disc being sent to
> the wrong address.
This is a screenshot of the error:
http://yfrog.com/2ounabletodeclaresornj
> > Can someone please advise me what to do next? I've tried calling the
> > garage many times but despite many assurances, nothing arrives in the
> > post. I have a receipt for purchase of the car and the MOT.
>
> Have you had the new V5C in your name yet?
Yes.
> If so, then you can check online - www.motinfo.gov.uk - with the document
> reference from that, to make sure it actually does have a current ticket.
> A duplicate certificate is easy to obtain.
I have, the MOT was reported as completed successfully in early
November 2009, as expected.
> BUT - there's absolutely no linear relationship between mileage and
> likelihood to pass MOT. You don't say how old the car is, but even if
> it's the first test at 3yo, an expensive fail is entirely possible if the
> car's been abused.
Am I going to have to pay a fine given how much time has elapsed? Is
there a grace period?
Thanks.
Peter
Adrian
like they were saying:
>> If so, then you can check online - www.motinfo.gov.uk - with the
>> document reference from that, to make sure it actually does have a
>> current ticket. A duplicate certificate is easy to obtain.
> I have, the MOT was reported as completed successfully in early November
> 2009, as expected.
OK, so it's probably just a case of the paperwork having been lost.
Doesn't matter. If you're SORNing it, you don't need an MOT.
> Am I going to have to pay a fine given how much time has elapsed? Is
> there a grace period?
You're liable for the car being SORNed or taxed from the moment the car
is registered in your name. If you can't do it online, do it at a post
office.