Removal of BT cables

[Michael Chare]

Suppose that BT have attached some cables to the outside of my house to
feed the semi attached house next door.

It is likely that the cables were attached to the house when it and the
house next door were leased to 'someone else'

Can I ask BT if they have consent from an owner of the house, and if
they can not prove this consent, insist on their removal at BT's
expense.

I should explain that the houses were used as offices, and the cables
are quite thick, i.e. about 1cm diameter.


--
Michael Chare

[Peter Crosland]

You can ask but unless you actually own the building, rather than lease
it, then I doubt BT will deal with you. In any case a confrontational
approach is not likely to help your case. Far better to ask them if they
would consider relocating them and your grounds for wanting them moved
without charge.

--
Regards Peter Crosland

[Andy Champ]

On 04/03/2013 00:10, Michael Chare wrote:

> Can I ask BT if they have consent from an owner of the house, and if
> they can not prove this consent, insist on their removal at BT's expense.

Check your freehold. I have to allow passage for various services cross
my garden, and access for the people who need to maintain them.

Andy

[tim.....]

"Michael Chare" <mUNDERSCOREnews@chareDOTorgDOTuk> wrote in message
news:wMWdnb3l4vvseK7M...@brightview.co.uk...

> Suppose that BT have attached some cables to the outside of my house to
> feed the semi attached house next door.
>
> It is likely that the cables were attached to the house when it and the
> house next door were leased to 'someone else'
>
> Can I ask BT if they have consent from an owner of the house, and if they
> can not prove this consent, insist on their removal at BT's expense.

They should have got a wayleave agreement.

So I suppose if they didn't, you can insist that they remove them.

HTH

tim

[Ian Jackson]

In message <apja8i...@mid.individual.net>, tim.....
<tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> writes

At one time, didn't the Post Office have automatic wayleave on - and
across - private property? This meant that there was no restriction with
overhead wires, and the could the could stick a telephone pole on your
garden. [I believe that they had to pay you a ground rent of one
shilling per annum per pole.]
--
Ian

[Michael Chare]

The cables quite likely date back to the days of the Post Office!

I have found an email address for the BT wayleaves department, and sent
them an email to see if they have wayleave agreed by any of the previous
property owners. If they don't I presume that it will be easier to
persuade BT to remove them.


--
Michael Chare

[AC]

Out of interest, what is the home owners responsibility to such cables
if they cross the property?

I have BT cables that cross my front garden to reach two of my
neighbours homes. The straight line from pole to neighbours home crosses
my garden. But, these cables kind of go through a tree that was in my
front garden when I moved in. This tree looks like sooner or later it
will take the cables down in a strong wind or storm.

So far, no problem. But if the tree does take out the cables, is that my
problem, or BT's?

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AC

[steve robinson]

BTs problem , my cables came loose trimmed them back and straped them
to the pole (no longer have a bt phone) called them reported it they
came out gave me the option to have them reinstated which i declined
and they removed them

[Roland Perry]

In message <xO2Zs.370104$vT3....@fx04.fr7>, at 15:10:05 on Mon, 4 Mar
2013, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> remarked:

>But if the tree does take out the cables, is that my problem, or BT's?

BT's. There was a tree in the pavement (so I suppose it belonged to the
council) outside a house I was living in a few years ago, and the cable
went straight through the middle from a pole the other side of the road
to my eaves.

Once I'd convinced them the that the excessive audio crackling and low
ASDL speed were probably due to the cable insulation having worn through
where it rubbed on one of the branches, they [Openreach] cheerfully came
and replaced it at no cost to me (and I doubt any cost to the council).

According to the team who came, they used an especially rugged
replacement in order to maximise the time before it happened again.

I'm now living in a house with underground phone cabling, so all I have
to worry about is water.
--
Roland Perry

[Mr Pounder]

"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message
news:OEF6TsEM...@perry.co.uk...

I have a BT cable going from a pole to the wall of my house. I'm with VM.
The previous owner was with BT.
Can I tell BT to get their cable off my wall?

[John]

I posted this previously, but for some reason my original post did not
appear.

The Telecommunications Act gives licensees such as BT the right under
certain circumstances to run cables over private property. The OP
might like to check whether this applies in his case.

[Roger Dewhurst]

These are called easements and they appear on the deeds. I very much
doubt if any easement can be created to cover cables running up the
side of a house.

[AC]

Ah OK.

Cheers for both replies.

--
AC

[Roland Perry]

In message <kh2lft$c76$1...@dont-email.me>, at 17:30:04 on Mon, 4 Mar 2013,
Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> remarked:

>I have a BT cable going from a pole to the wall of my house. I'm with VM.
>The previous owner was with BT.
>Can I tell BT to get their cable off my wall?

I don't know, but utilities generally don't remove obsolete cables.
There are literally hundreds of old analogue cable-TV cables strung all
over West Bridgford (from house to house, and even across the street in
several places) that have been abandoned by the original cable company.
--
Roland Perry

[Mr Pounder]

"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message

news:OQE6G0XI...@perry.co.uk...

Thanks.
Maybe I could charge them rent for their bracket on my house?

[Roland Perry]

In message <kh4q3a$s65$1...@dont-email.me>, at 13:00:05 on Tue, 5 Mar 2013,
Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> remarked:

>Maybe I could charge them rent for their bracket on my house?

Probably not, but if the bracket mysteriously fell off the house, they
might remove the wire rather than re-fit the bracket.
--
Roland Perry

[Mr Pounder]

"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message

news:KhIrKHi4...@perry.co.uk...

If the bracket fell off the wire would also fall down and stretch across the
street!
I may make the phone call and tell them to get their property off my
property.

[Roland Perry]

In message <kh58al$e18$1...@dont-email.me>, at 17:05:02 on Tue, 5 Mar 2013,

Mr Pounder <MrPo...@RationalThought.com> remarked:
>>>Maybe I could charge them rent for their bracket on my house?
>>
>> Probably not, but if the bracket mysteriously fell off the house, they
>> might remove the wire rather than re-fit the bracket.
>

>If the bracket fell off the wire would also fall down and stretch across the
>street!

And any local public spirited citizens might make sure the cable was
collected up into a coil and left on the other side of the road, so as
not to impede the traffic.
--
Roland Perry

[Mr Pounder]

"Roland Perry" <rol...@perry.co.uk> wrote in message

news:iFKhj$pyDmN...@perry.co.uk...

The wife would find out what I had done. She can see through walls. It would
be the end of me.
But thanks :-)

[Graham Nye]

On 04/03/2013 17:30, Mr Pounder wrote:
>
> I have a BT cable going from a pole to the wall of my house. I'm with VM.
> The previous owner was with BT.
> Can I tell BT to get their cable off my wall?

Pass. You might want to consider leaving the BT cable to give
yourself the option to swap back if BT have a better future
offering than VM.


--
Graham Nye
news(a)thenyes.org.uk

[Mr Pounder]

"Graham Nye" <nos...@thenyes.org.uk> wrote in message
news:U7LZs.137$927...@fx23.fr7...

Aye.
But if I went with them they would need to wire me up.
Until they can do better speeds than VM (30 down) they will wait.