Wages due on a saturday, not paid until monday. Any legal considerations?
Mike Barnard
The organisation I work for pays me on the 15th of each month. When
that day falls on a weekend then they keep it until the following
Monday. Is there anything in law, or a legal precident from a case
that could help me persuade them to pay it on the Friday?
Other similar organisations do this, I used to be employed by one.
Surely they can't make a huge amount of money on the interest they
earn on one or two days? Why else would they do this?
Why do I want it on the friday? Because it's now saturday, it's due to
me, I need to shop and to get some clothes for my son but I can't
until monday. Which means in reality, with work, I won't get the
chance until the next weekend.
Peter Crosland
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What does your contract of employment say about this? Normally amounts
becoming payable on a particular date should be paid on or before that dat.
Peter Crosland
Mike Barnard
Good point, I'll dig it out. Why didn't I think to look there...
Mike Barnard
<g6...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
"Payment is made monthly by bank Giro usually on the 15th of the
month, but on the first following normal working day if the 15th is
not a normal working day."
OK, so I'm not going to fight it on the basis that they've contravined
the CofE, but my original comment stands. Is there a legal precedent
that could help me to persuade them to change this term?
Red Squirrel
> The organisation I work for pays me on the 15th of each month. When
> that day falls on a weekend then they keep it until the following
> Monday. Is there anything in law, or a legal precident from a case
> that could help me persuade them to pay it on the Friday?
>
> Other similar organisations do this, I used to be employed by one.
> Surely they can't make a huge amount of money on the interest they
> earn on one or two days? Why else would they do this?
I get paid on the 6th of each month. If that falls on a weekend I get
paid on the next working day. It has been like that for me for over 30
years.
The worst scenario is when the 6th falls on Good Friday - I don't get paid
until the 10th.
For me it makes no difference though, because the bank will not pay out
anything from my account until the next working day either.
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Red Squirrel
steve robinson
No you have agreed to it .
They could of course offer to pay you by cheque instead posting it to
your address or handing it to you on the 15 or the Friday before but
you would be worse off waiting for it to clear and all the hassle of
paying it in
Ste
wrote:> >"Mike Barnard" <m.barnard.trous...@thunderin.co.uk> wrote in message
No. And I can't see why it bothers you. If they pay you early, then a
"long month" simply follows the payday instead of preceding it, and
getting the money in advance rather than in arrears when the payday
falls on a non-working day has advantages that are really too small to
argue about.
Peter Crosland
There may not be, but I would expect any decent employer to listen to a
logical argument if made by a number of employees. I receive two separate
pensions and they are always paid on or before the due date.
Peter Crosland
Robin
> the CofE, but my original comment stands. Is there a legal precedent
> that could help me to persuade them to change this term?
In addition to the good points already made by others, bear in mind that
the change you desire would almost certainly require your employer to
complete their payroll earlier in the month. That could, and very
probably would, be to the disadvantage of other employees. For example,
overtime worked in the month would be more likely to be paid a month
later. Ditto increases on promotion. So your employer would need to
negotiate a change in the contract of employment with all employees.
That in turn points to your needing to carry your co-workers with you in
putting together a convincing case for change.
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Robin
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Humbug
I think that there may be some kind of historical fetaure where
Saturday is regarded as a working day, even though it is not a banking
day.
In my first job (36 years ago) I do remember that it was specifically
stated in my conditions of employment that wages were paid on the 21st
of the month, three weeks in arrears and one week in advance.
If the 21st was a Saturday, the payment would be made on the next
banking day, (i.e. Monday). Only if it was a Sunday then an adjustment
would be made and the wages would be paid on Friday.
If you're paid on the 15th, it is likely that it is two weeks in
arrears and two weeks in advance, in which case your employers are
probably within their rights to delay the payment if it occurs on a
non-banking day.
In my current employment, I am paid in arrears on the last Friday of
each month, which IMHO is the right way to do it.
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Humbug
tim....
> On Sat, 15 May 2010 12:10:08 +0100, "Peter Crosland"
> <g6...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Mike Barnard" <m.barnard...@thunderin.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:1tusu5h0blbdn1j6v...@4ax.com...
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> The organisation I work for pays me on the 15th of each month. When
>>> that day falls on a weekend then they keep it until the following
>>> Monday. Is there anything in law, or a legal precident from a case
>>> that could help me persuade them to pay it on the Friday?
>>>
>>> Other similar organisations do this, I used to be employed by one.
>>> Surely they can't make a huge amount of money on the interest they
>>> earn on one or two days? Why else would they do this?
>>>
>>> Why do I want it on the friday? Because it's now saturday, it's due to
>>> me, I need to shop and to get some clothes for my son but I can't
>>> until monday. Which means in reality, with work, I won't get the
>>> chance until the next weekend.
>>
>>What does your contract of employment say about this? Normally amounts
>>becoming payable on a particular date should be paid on or before that
>>dat.
>>
>>Peter Crosland
>>
>
> "Payment is made monthly by bank Giro usually on the 15th of the
> month,
Two weeks in arrears, two weeks in advance or four weeks in arrears?
If it's the former, I don't see that you have too much to complain about
tim
R. Mark Clayton
>
> The organisation I work for pays me on the 15th of each month. When
> that day falls on a weekend then they keep it until the following
> Monday. Is there anything in law, or a legal precident from a case
> that could help me persuade them to pay it on the Friday?
>
> Other similar organisations do this, I used to be employed by one.
> Surely they can't make a huge amount of money on the interest they
> earn on one or two days? Why else would they do this?
True your wages * 0.3% * 2 days = ~2p per �1k. OTOH they will pay a lot
more than this if they have an overdraft...
>
> Why do I want it on the friday? Because it's now saturday, it's due to
> me, I need to shop and to get some clothes for my son but I can't
> until monday. Which means in reality, with work, I won't get the
> chance until the next weekend.
Well get a credit card - buy today and not pay for at least 25 days and
typically 40.
Dave
I think you will find that the payment to your bank is made on the first
bank working day of the month after the 14th, as is my works pension.
This means that the payment is made the day before, as the cash has to
be in your bank at midnight on the day it is required to be drawn on.
Dave
Humbug
I refer the honourable gentleman to the reply I made some moments ago.
:-)
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HUmbug
sid
Why can't they use BACS? That way it's usually in at midnight on the
date due so you definitely have it whatever day of the week.
sid
Sara
sid <nos...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
BACS won't accept instructions to pay on a non-banking date.
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Sara
Run out of ideas for a sig for the moment
doug.cha...@gmail.com
love cum
> Unless stated in your contract pay should be in your account on the day of pay day. So if your payday is the 22nd of each month then the company has a contracted date to pay you on. If it lands on a weekend then it has to be paid on the Friday before. A good company would have cut off dates for overtime be be in by so staff would understand that again in the contract. It's the same a pay slips have to be issued on or before payday. As previously stated Bacs is the best way as that works Monday to Friday. Direct payments into accounts can be hazardous if mistakes are made when manually making payments and then not received. Then the company is in breach of contract.