HGV overnight parking
Road_Hog
pedants) class 1 (40ft container) has decided to park in our village in the
bustop (pull in area).
Is this legal, I thought HGVs had to park in truckstops, lay-bys, service
stations etc. and not on public roads?
If it is illegal (bearing in mind it is now seven o'clock) what is the best
way to get him moved on and also to stop a repeat of it. It is a small
village (no more than 1,200 pop.) and it is also causing a problem as the
buses can pull in and are blocking the road as they let passensgers on and
off.
Toom Tabard
Are you talking about long-term and/or overnight parking rathe than
for short term operating purposes. If so, operators licence for HGVs
used to specify that it should be parked in the operators premises, or
if away from the premises, it should be parked in other suitable
premises or lorry park. Current regulation may (probably still)
specify this. In addition, some local authorities have their own bye-
laws specifically banning overnight parking of commercial vehicles
over 7.5 tones on the roadway. Suggest you first contact your local
authority, and ask them to take action under either local byelaws or
general operators regulations. Operators name and address is probably
shown on the vehicle. You should pass this to the council and/or
contact operator directly to report the problem.
Toom
Ross Younger
>I thought HGVs had to park in truckstops, lay-bys, service
>stations etc. and not on public roads?
I can't comment on HGV-specific provisions, but in general, Highway
Code rule 243 says "DO NOT [park] ... at or near a bus or tram stop"
- in other words, it's frowned upon, but not automatically illegal.
(If there's a yellow line or other prohibition of waiting, that would
be a different matter.)
>If it is illegal (bearing in mind it is now seven o'clock) what is the best
>way to get him moved on and also to stop a repeat of it.
Operationally, this smells like a police matter.
If I were you I'd ring your local police's non-emergency line to
report it, making clear that it's in a bus stop and to what extent it's
causing an obstruction or other hazard, and leave it to them to take
action. (Realistically, whether they do will depend on how busy they are.)
Strategically, it's difficult to see how to prevent a repeat. If the
situation recurs, your local/parish councillor might be a good person
to approach with a view to investigating whether the relevant highways
authority (usually county council, I think) could be persuaded to impose
restrictions - which is more likely to be approved if there's a pattern
of trouble. (Then, if the police fail to act, your local councillor or
maybe neighbourhood watch could prod them.)
Ross
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I draw the OPs attention to http://www.parkwise.org.uk/highway-code.asp
Clot
Irrespective of the legal aspect (which might mean the Moderators exclude
this note), in a small community with limited employment prospects, the
driver might need to park the vehicle close to home to both sleep and see
his/her family. Let alone the anxiety that might be caused to the driver
about the load that could be on board.
Legal and business constraints on drivers of HGVs require them to work
strange hours to those of us that are fortunate to work " 9 to 5" in a broad
sense.
The driver might have a social conscience and thought that the location
would be least disturbing to folk when starting up.
A conversation is required to minimise impact upon the village and strive
for a suitable compromise.
Big Les Wade
>
>Irrespective of the legal aspect (which might mean the Moderators exclude
>this note), in a small community with limited employment prospects, the
>driver might need to park the vehicle close to home to both sleep and see
>his/her family.
No, he might *want* to do that. Laws often forbid people from doing
everything that they might want to do.
>Let alone the anxiety that might be caused to the driver
>about the load that could be on board.
>
>Legal and business constraints on drivers of HGVs require them to work
>strange hours to those of us that are fortunate to work " 9 to 5" in a broad
>sense.
>
>The driver might have a social conscience and thought that the location
>would be least disturbing to folk when starting up.
>
>A conversation is required to minimise impact upon the village and strive
>for a suitable compromise.
Absolute rubbish. It is against the law to park an HGV overnight
anywhere except a specially permitted place, which certainly does not
include a bus stop. It is also illegal to park an HGV in the street
without lights after dark.
There are very good reasons for these laws and every HGV driver should
know them, it's in his driving test. The driver is knowingly behaving
illegally and anti-socially.
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Les
Criticising the government is not illegal, but often on investigation turns out
to be linked to serious offences.
FUBAR69
'Big Les Wade[_2_ Wrote:
> ;647474']Clot clo...@ntlglobe.goon posted-
>
> Irrespective of the legal aspect (which might mean the Moderators
> exclude
> this note), in a small community with limited employment prospects,
> the
> driver might need to park the vehicle close to home to both sleep and
> see
>
> No, he might *want* to do that. Laws often forbid people from doing
> everything that they might want to do.
> Let alone the anxiety that might be caused to the driver
> about the load that could be on board.
>
> Legal and business constraints on drivers of HGVs require them to work
> strange hours to those of us that are fortunate to work " 9 to 5" in a
> broad
> sense.
>
> The driver might have a social conscience and thought that the
> location
> would be least disturbing to folk when starting up.
>
> A conversation is required to minimise impact upon the village and
> strive
>
> Absolute rubbish. It is against the law to park an HGV overnight
> anywhere except a specially permitted place, which certainly does not
> include a bus stop. It is also illegal to park an HGV in the street
> without lights after dark.
>
> There are very good reasons for these laws and every HGV driver should
>
> know them, it's in his driving test. The driver is knowingly behaving
> illegally and anti-socially.
>
>
> --
> Les
> Criticising the government is not illegal, but often on investigation
> turns out
> to be linked to serious offences.
All LGV/HGV vehicles are covered under an Operators License unless held
under "Own Account" the terms of the license strictly forbid the parking
of trucks in built up areas overnight.
If it happens again simply take the registration and contact your local
licensing office or enforcement branch, if their license is not held by
them they will let you know who does.
The CPC (Certificate of Professional Compentency) holder will be
contacted and he will take measures to ensure it does not happen again.
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FUBAR69