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Niteawk

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Mar 28, 2010, 1:46:42 PM3/28/10
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In order not to discriminate against people who can't work due to illness
and or disability, and partly to give Shaw Trust some credibility, this will
be the type of job adverts employers will have to make in future under anti
discrimination laws as soon as the Bill is passed, or by Act of parliament
if the Bill falters.

Admin assistant wanted. Must have at least one illness, signed off work by a
GP or currently undergoing surgery. Able bodied people need not apply as we
have one member of staff who is in perfect health, as in accordance with the
law. Black and asian people can apply regardless, although priority is given
to applicants with serious health conditions. No applications will be
considered from deceased people regardless of race or colour. We also do not
accept applications from people with qualifications as this discriminates
against people who have none. No training will be given, if you can't figure
out how to do the work, no problem. You can hire you an assistant, for which
the company pays to do the work for you. We want you to have a job
especially if you can't work and have no qualifications whatsoever.

Shaw Trust awareness team in conjunction with JCP. Turning a blind eye is
our motto.

mart...@hotmail.com

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Mar 28, 2010, 6:02:36 PM3/28/10
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Ah, sounds like you have picked up on the 'token disabled' type of
advert.
Been around for a decade or so - often loved by local authority,
government departments and certain disabled charities - there was an
uproar a few years back about some senior post at RNID given to
someone who was Deaf-impaired. I didn't see a problem myself but some
groups were annoyed that a hearing person got the job.
I've applied for a few of those types of posts about 5 years back -
didn't get any of them but interviews were fun.

Martin <><

Niteawk

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Mar 30, 2010, 5:30:16 PM3/30/10
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Which one got the job again?

> I've applied for a few of those types of posts about 5 years back -
> didn't get any of them but interviews were fun.
>

I imagine they would be fun. Shaw Trust will usually have at least one token
member of staff who is disabled delivering the Pathways To Work programs, to
give the illusion that disabled people can get jobs. Which is funny because
you never see a disabled person running any of their charity shops.
Government dept's linked with these sham charity contractors are the only
organisations who will consider giving a diabled person a job. Again they
will have the minimum of one token disabled person working for them. Thats
all very well when it is tax payers money that is paying for it. No real
company that relies on making a profit to stay in business is going to
consider hiring sick and disabled people.

mart...@hotmail.com

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Mar 30, 2010, 6:06:05 PM3/30/10
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On 30 Mar, 22:30, "Niteawk" <nos...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> > Been around for a decade or so - often loved by local authority,
> > government departments and certain disabled charities - there was an
> > uproar a few years back about some senior post at RNID given to
> > someone who was Deaf-impaired. I didn't see a problem myself but some
> > groups were annoyed that a hearing person got the job.
>
> Which one got the job again?
>
> > I've applied for a few of those types of posts about 5 years back -
> > didn't get any of them but interviews were fun.
>
> I imagine they would be fun. Shaw Trust will usually have at least one token
> member of staff who is disabled delivering the Pathways To Work programs, to
> give the illusion that disabled people can get jobs. Which is funny because
> you never see a disabled person running any of their charity shops.
> Government dept's linked with these sham charity contractors are the only
> organisations who will consider giving a diabled person a job. Again they
> will have the minimum of one token disabled person working for them. Thats
> all very well when it is tax payers money that is paying for it. No real
> company that relies on making a profit to stay in business is going to
> consider hiring sick and disabled people.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

A Deaf-impaired person got the job. You might say he was a hearing
person.
Shaw Trust, like many large employers, will have at least some token
staff of particular groups including disabled. Reminds me of 25 years
ago or so when engineering firms had token female engineers and
technical staff rather than simply the office and lunch counter staff
being the only females.

The charity I work for, a company that relies on making a profit most
years (listed in accounts as profit), hired me. I think they made a
good deal, we are still open almost 4 years later.
In around 2 years I will likely be leaving them and moving on - once I
have my degree.

It is however a risk, taking on disabled. We tend to have more
hospital or doctors visits than able bodied, we tend to need some
adaptions or notice taken of what we can do, we tend to have some
limitations.
Charities are often companies too - and all of them rely on making a
surplus (if just a charity) or a profit (if both a charity and a
company) most of the time. Exactly like any other sector of the
economy.
State-owned banks included.

Companies can and do take on disabled staff. However, outside of the
charity sector, I don't know of any that have the disabled as a
significant minority or a majority of their staff.

Martin <><

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