BA set up for ANOTHER MAJOR STRIKE.. NOW IN U.S
John Hill
And what does this have to do with uk.gov.agency.csa ?
>British Airways prepares for ANOTHER MAJOR STRIKE, this time in the U.S.,
>involving all ground staff including Airport Ticketing Agents, Cargo,
>Reservations and Catering. Expect most flights to be cancelled, long delays of
>up to 2 Hrs on the reservation line, lost and extremely delayed baggage
>(again).
>
>Since Bob Ayling has taken the reigns of BA , it has gone from the Worlds
>Favourite Airline to the worlds Worst Airline in customer service, on time
>arrivals, baggage handling, employee recognition, stock value and First and
>Business class travellers choice. Baggage problems, which came to a head
>during 1998 with 6 out of 10 bags lost or delayed, the Flight Attendant strike,
>narrowly averting a Pilot strike, repainting the tail fins and giving up the
>BRITISH CREST, stocks being devalued going from 126 USD per share to todays
>price of only 53 USD per share, customer service problems to the extent of the
>Customer Relations only being able to receive faxes due to the HIGH rate of
>complaint call placed to that department, loosing upwards of 200 million pounds
>in a deal intended to give BA tax breaks and writeoffs in Japan and in the UK..
>FOR THE SAME CRAFT !!, Profits down as First, Business and Concorde passengers
>FLEE to competitors due to bad customer service are just some of the highlights
>of Aylings tenure.. The pending question remains “ Can BA afford to have yet
>another strike? “. I guess so. As the U.S staff gears up to strike, BA has
>already begun looking for people to fill in for the 1500 employees expected to
>walk out.
>
>What is the problem? It has been reported in the Times that BA is trying to
>bust the local union by pulling together non-union workers to replace union
>workers. The same employees who consistently brought in 60% of BA profit
>annually are now asked to stand down give up their jobs and agree to be out
>sourced to a handling company.
>
>British Airways and the International Association of Machinist (IAM) have been
>negotiating a new contract for 3 years, BA delaying the negotiations for the
>three years with no mention of out sourcing. In February 1999 BA advised the
>I.A.M that in NOW intends to out source reservations within two years . The
>entire U.S within 5 years is speculated.
>
>The U.S has made BA approximately 60% of its profit over the last 10 years. Now
>BA wants to get rid of this VALUABLE SOURCE OF PROVEN INCOME and replace them
>with new, barely trained staff. Thus busting the union .
>British Airways leases on their two reservation centres are up during 2000 and
>2001, BA has stated to their staff that they do not intend to renew the leases
>nor open another centre in the U.S as stated in their letter to the employees “
>BA does not want to be in the Reservation Centre business, we want to out
>source and have the work preformed by another company...” However BA have a
>contract with the I.A.M stating “ any reservation centre maintained in the U.S
>or its territories MUST be staffed with I.A.M members”. This is why BA wants
>to break the union.
>
>Expect the stock price to fall, flights to be cancelled and possible safety to
>be compromised as possibly new hires will be securing the aircraft. British
>airways is turning into a virtual airline where virtually no one actual works
>for BA.
>BA forgets that an airline is only as good as its employees and personally
>after discovering what BA has become under Bob Ayling’s command I would rather
>Fly Virgin or some other company. If Bob Ayling does not show his employees
>respect and that they are valued, honestly why should they show us the same.
>
>The real sad part about this story is that BA used to be a really nice airline
>where the public knew the quality service to expect and its employees were
>proud to say “I’m a British Airways Employee”. After interviewing many BA
>staff at Waterside, Glasgow and over the phone internationally I'm sad to say
>that many employees now do not mention their company.. chances are that you may
>be one of the thousands that BA has lost your bags or have received terrible
>customer service.
>
>It been rumoured that BA intends to out source UK reservations as well, with in
>the next 3 years, displacing even more employees.
Charles Atkinson
John Hill wrote in message
<3705abc1...@news.clara.net>...
>And what does this have to do with uk.gov.agency.csa ?
And how can the Benefits Agency go on strike in the US?
Does this explain why Social Security spending is so high?
We should be told!
C
John Ward
<922284212.21504.2...@news.demon.co.uk>...
[snip]
>And how can the Benefits Agency go on strike in the US?
>Does this explain why Social Security spending is so high?
>We should be told!
One thing I believe government should do more of is run experiments and
tests before rolling-out policy across the entire nation. It may be hard on
a small area, but if they are not committed they can back-track.
It is encouraging to note that the DSS are indeed running, & intending to
run, many such trials.
In fact, BA (Benefits Agency) has more pilots than BA (British Airways).
John Ward
Mike Farr
John Hill couldn't be arsed to snip 5k of irrelevant crap, before
duplicating the whole lot, just to complain about it, adding in message
<3705abc1...@news.clara.net>...
<MEGA SNIP OF DUPLICATE IRRELEVANT CRAP>
>And what does this have to do with uk.gov.agency.csa ?
Thanks pal. It offends us all as much as it offends you, so WHY DUPLICATE IT
to piss us all off again?
John Hill
<mike...@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote:
>John Hill couldn't be arsed to snip 5k of irrelevant crap, before
>duplicating the whole lot, just to complain about it, adding in message
John Hill was simply doing what everybody else on this particular ng
has been doing. John Hill is not a netgeek who moans about other's
lack of netiquette. So whoever decided to be a netgeek fold your
"clever" comment four ways and please place it where the sun don't
shine.
And a heart felt plea for some judicious snipping of ALL
posts.JW/Pat/Julian et al
Cheers
John Hill
John Ward
>On Wed, 24 Mar 1999 20:29:27 -0000, "Mike Farr"
><mike...@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote:
>>John Hill couldn't be arsed to snip 5k of irrelevant crap, before
>>duplicating the whole lot, just to complain about it, adding in message
>
>John Hill was simply doing what everybody else on this particular ng
>has been doing
No! Several of us ALWAYS trim the text being responded to to what we think
provides just sufficient context. (And also use white space to make the new
material stand out).
Netiquette isn't some arcane geek ritual - it comes down to trying to make
it easy for busy people to read & respond to your posts (instead of ignoring
them).
John Ward
John Hill
wrote:
>No! Several of us ALWAYS trim the text being responded to to what we think
>provides just sufficient context. (And also use white space to make the new
>material stand out).
>
>Netiquette isn't some arcane geek ritual - it comes down to trying to make
>it easy for busy people to read & respond to your posts (instead of ignoring
>them).
John
I'll take major exception to this. Now someone else has raised it I'll
add my own protest on the same basis as yours.
I had come to the conclusion that one liners at the end of long points
was considered netiquette on this ng and you have been an offender, as
have I.
I think everybody should, in future be a little more aware of the
netiquette, for everybody's sake.
Cheers
John Hill
John Ward
>I had come to the conclusion that one liners at the end
>of long points was considered netiquette on this ng and
>you have been an offender, as have I.
One liners - me?! You really have someone else in mind! (Don't rely on your
memory, go & check, as I did just in case I really had done that. I might
give a 1 line or even 1 word factual answer, or a flip remark, but only ever
to a stripped down post).
Something that may be confusing you is that I often post press releases &
newspaper articles & clips from Hansard, etc. I ask myself whether this is
sensible - should I post the URL or whatever instead? (It would be just as
easy). But I've noticed that these posts often generate useful debate, with
people responding in the usual way to the posted text, which wouldn't work
with a URL. The key is - the material is new to the NG, not just a repeat of
what someone else has just posted. So until enough people tell me to stop,
I'll continue. (I try to make the "Subject" clear about what sort of post it
is).
John Ward
Mike Farr
John Hill wrote in message <3700f875...@news.clara.net>...
>John Hill was simply doing what everybody else on this particular ng
>has been doing. John Hill is not a netgeek who moans about other's
>lack of netiquette. So whoever decided to be a netgeek fold your
>"clever" comment four ways and please place it where the sun don't
>shine.
John, you arrogant twit. You are the only one with the clever comments. I
simply asked you to cut the 5k irrelevant message before re-posting it, just
to complain about it.
Wise up or shut up, but don't get clever with your 'where the sun doesn't
shine' comments - it makes you look stupid.
Oh - and don't try to pass the buck for your tiresome ways onto the likes of
JW and Julian. YOU are the culprit, NOT them!
Mike Farr
Mike Farr
(because I'm too busy wading through John Hill's recycled posts), but your
research is welcomed, and always generates useful discussion. John Hill is
simply trying to deflect attention from a small criticism of his ways. If
he simply learned, rather than defended his misjudgements, we'd all have
more time to concentrate on more useful postings.
John Ward wrote in message <36fa7...@news1.vip.uk.com>...