Bishop of Bangor
Lyn David Thomas
appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
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\/ Lyn David Thomas
Robert Marshall
>
> Well it looks like we might see the Church in Wales be the next to
> appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
>
I wondered whether you had any more news but I can't see any - I
assume the voting is being played out quietly
I don't think anyone who protests because of the 2008 Lambeth stement
will have a leg to stand on. JJ may be partnered but he's made clear
that the relationship is no longer sexual.
If folk are going to protest it will be
(at least that's what they'll say, hypocritesRUs :-( )
because of his views but in that case they're going to have to object
to a lot of other bishops too!
Robert
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Lyn David Thomas
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Lyn David Thomas wrote:
>
>> Well it looks like we might see the Church in Wales be the next to
>> appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
>>
>
> I wondered whether you had any more news but I can't see any - I
> assume the voting is being played out quietly
No further news - but the CIW has its ways...
I wonder if they will do it, the conservative wing blocked women bishops
last month (failed to get a 2/3 majority in the clergy). But the
leadership seems more liberal.
> I don't think anyone who protests because of the 2008 Lambeth stement
> will have a leg to stand on. JJ may be partnered but he's made clear
> that the relationship is no longer sexual.
I don't think that is enough for some of them
> If folk are going to protest it will be
> (at least that's what they'll say, hypocritesRUs :-( )
> because of his views but in that case they're going to have to object
> to a lot of other bishops too!
Indeed.
Ben Bacarisse
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Lyn David Thomas wrote:
>
>> Well it looks like we might see the Church in Wales be the next to
>> appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
I see, after some research, that the "Church in Wales" is an Anglican
Church but sort of semi-detached. This may mean some of what I say
below wrong.
> I wondered whether you had any more news but I can't see any - I
> assume the voting is being played out quietly
>
> I don't think anyone who protests because of the 2008 Lambeth stement
> will have a leg to stand on. JJ may be partnered but he's made clear
> that the relationship is no longer sexual.
And gay Anglicans accept this? This may be a theoretical point -- are
there a significant number of gay Anglicans? Surely they want clergy
that understand and reflect and understand their lives? I thought
that was all part of the philosophy of having married clergy. Or is
it that this candidate is the best of a bad bunch?
--
Ben.
Robert Marshall
> Robert Marshall <sp...@chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Lyn David Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Well it looks like we might see the Church in Wales be the next to
>>> appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
>
> I see, after some research, that the "Church in Wales" is an
> Anglican Church but sort of semi-detached. This may mean some of
> what I say below wrong.
No more semi-detached than any other part of the Anglican church -
well apart from the real English one :-). 1920 was when the C
in W became detached
>
>> I wondered whether you had any more news but I can't see any - I
>> assume the voting is being played out quietly
>>
>> I don't think anyone who protests because of the 2008 Lambeth
>> stement will have a leg to stand on. JJ may be partnered but he's
>> made clear that the relationship is no longer sexual.
>
> And gay Anglicans accept this? This may be a theoretical point --
> are there a significant number of gay Anglicans? Surely they want
> clergy that understand and reflect and understand their lives? I
> thought that was all part of the philosophy of having married
> clergy. Or is it that this candidate is the best of a bad bunch?
>
As I've argued in another place - someone (in a different context)
wished to argue that married bishops might be preferable to single
ones - that leads to divorced transexual onelegged nuns with children
being the prime candidate.
I think Jeffrey John has a lot going for him, having read one of his
books in the last month, if elected I think he'll be fine
Lyn David Thomas
> Robert Marshall <sp...@chezmarshall.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
>
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Lyn David Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> Well it looks like we might see the Church in Wales be the next to
>>> appoint an openly gay bishop... wonder what that will do.....
>
> I see, after some research, that the "Church in Wales" is an Anglican
> Church but sort of semi-detached. This may mean some of what I say
> below wrong.
More than semi detached, a completely separate province of the Anglican
church... the act setting it up and disestablishing it was the first act
forced through by the Parliament Act.