Blowjob dream for straight guy
Spellman AGAIN!
myself sucking my finger without realising. Anyhow, as potentially worrying
as this could be - think of a waiting room before you go for a interview and
the interviewer sticking his head round the door to be greeted by this...
Sorry, this is hardly cause for concern but what was slightly more bizarre,
was the 'proper' dream I had last night. I recall being in a room full of
people and then voluntarily giving another guy a blowjob. He wasn't sat with
his penis out, so I had to do everything except making him hard. I think I
gave good head, being sure to gently suck and blow rather than glide my
mouth along (from watching female pornstars please men, I noticed that this
technique produced far more pleasure). After giving head, I think took his
load in my mouth - though this part is slightly hazy.
I'm actually straight but it's been so long since I had sex with a woman
that I could well have drifted towards homosexuality in hope of greater
success. The blowjob experience in my dream was great but I wondered whether
this was consistant with anyone on this NG, who realised they were gay after
several short-term relatioships and starting dreaming about it?
With hope, I'll be able to make a more balanced decision should I ever dream
of actually fucking another guy - gotta say, I do like the idea of being a
straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to men.
BTW - this 'dream' stuff isn't a fucked up way of saying all this actually
happened. Nothing along the line of posts stating 'my *friend* had sex with
a guy', or 'my twin brother *told me about it*'.
thanks for any help
...straightish guy...
Kapitano
<albert...@virgin.net> wrote:
>Sorry, this is hardly cause for concern but what was slightly more bizarre,
>was the 'proper' dream I had last night. I recall being in a room full of
>people and then voluntarily giving another guy a blowjob. He wasn't sat with
>his penis out, so I had to do everything except making him hard. I think I
>gave good head, being sure to gently suck and blow
Aaarrgggh! Do not blow into the urethra! It's painful and dangerous!
It's may be called a blowjob, but it's really about licking and
sucking.
Nice dream though...
>rather than glide my
>mouth along (from watching female pornstars please men, I noticed that this
>technique produced far more pleasure).
Actually there's lots of different ways to pleasure a penis with the
mouth. You can hold the head in your lips while flicking the underside
with your tongue, or take the shaft deep in your mouth in long slow
sweeps, keep it stationary but suck in rapid pulses...
Hmmm. I didn't enjoy writing that paragraph at ALL :-).
>I'm actually straight but it's been so long since I had sex with a woman
>that I could well have drifted towards homosexuality in hope of greater
>success.
Maybe. Or maybe you're branching out. People's sexuality does change
over time - sometimes in surprising ways.
>The blowjob experience in my dream was great but I wondered whether
>this was consistant with anyone on this NG, who realised they were gay after
>several short-term relatioships and starting dreaming about it?
I can't speak for others, but a friend of mine drifted into giving
blowjobs after years of recieving them from men. He still considers
himself mainly straight - but flexible.
>With hope, I'll be able to make a more balanced decision should I ever dream
>of actually fucking another guy
Well, don't get too hung up on fucking and being fucked. Oral sex is a
lot more common - some men like fucking, but there are a lot of other
things you can do.
> - gotta say, I do like the idea of being a
>straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to men.
Sounds good to me. If you want to email me to discuss your feelings,
I'd be happy to listen.
-- Kapitano
Invalid Reality. The Universe will now reboot.
Harlequin
>On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:07:09 GMT, "Spellman AGAIN!" wrote:
....
>>rather than glide my
>>mouth along (from watching female pornstars please men, I noticed that this
>>technique produced far more pleasure).
>
>Actually there's lots of different ways to pleasure a penis with the
>mouth. You can hold the head in your lips while flicking the underside
>with your tongue, or take the shaft deep in your mouth in long slow
>sweeps, keep it stationary but suck in rapid pulses...
>Hmmm. I didn't enjoy writing that paragraph at ALL :-).
Indeed, common wisdom has it that men are far better at giving blowjobs
than women, if only because they understand the equipment better.
>>With hope, I'll be able to make a more balanced decision should I ever dream
>>of actually fucking another guy
>
>Well, don't get too hung up on fucking and being fucked. Oral sex is a
>lot more common - some men like fucking, but there are a lot of other
>things you can do.
One of my favourite statistics is that (according to the British Medical
Journal) more heterosexuals are into anal sex than homosexuals
(http://makeashorterlink.com/?E138221B).
H.
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wise men."
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johnny.webtribe
than women, if only because they understand the equipment better.<<
Oh yes indeed - if we could give ourselves a blowjob, we'd all be happy! :)
As to technique: I recently had a "first-timer" here, never been with a man
before, but was very good at what he was doing. I told him that I found it
hard to believe it was his first time, he just said he was only doing what
he liked to be done to himself. Man on man - you already know what to do...
:)
-johnny
"Harlequin" <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote in message
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mik
>
> I do like the idea of being a straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to
men.
straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
mik
--
hth
mik
>
> I do like the idea of being a straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to
men.
straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
mik
--
hth
mik
>
>> - gotta say, I do like the idea of being a
>> straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to men.
admit it: you're just in it for the blowjob, aren't you?
mik
--
professional fluffer
Gregoire Kretz
> I'm actually straight but it's been so long since I had sex with a woman
> that I could well have drifted towards homosexuality in hope of greater
> success.
If that's the only reason you'll be very disappointed soon. :)
> The blowjob experience in my dream was great but I wondered whether
> this was consistant with anyone on this NG, who realised they were gay after
> several short-term relatioships and starting dreaming about it?
>
> With hope, I'll be able to make a more balanced decision should I ever dream
> of actually fucking another guy - gotta say, I do like the idea of being a
> straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to men.
More and more people who actually think about their sexuality realise
there isn't so much to think about and that <holy gospel> there are no
heterosexual or homosexual people, just heterosexual or homosexual acts
</>.
Now go and spread joy on numerous mattresses child. :)
> ...straightish guy...
That's a good start, yes.
Greg
--
Housequake!
Kapitano
<johnny....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>As to technique: I recently had a "first-timer" here, never been with a man
>before, but was very good at what he was doing. I told him that I found it
>hard to believe it was his first time, he just said he was only doing what
>he liked to be done to himself. Man on man - you already know what to do...
>:)
I remember my first time. It was in that most traditional of places, a
pub toilet. He sucked me - my first time being sucked. Then I sucked
him - my first time sucking.
I could not *believe* what a buzz it was sucking him. I thought, "This
is absurd. Sucking any other bit of flesh wouldn't feel especially
good - so *why* have I been down here for ten minutes, getting
backache, loving every second?" <schlurp sclump>
Every so often there was a polite knocking on the cubicle door, as if
to say, "When you've quite finished, some of us want to have a dump in
there." <mumpf gulp>
Ah to be seventeen and sucking a strange man's knob again...
<wistful sigh>
Harlequin
>>>Indeed, common wisdom has it that men are far better at giving blowjobs
>than women, if only because they understand the equipment better.<<
>
>Oh yes indeed - if we could give ourselves a blowjob, we'd all be happy! :)
Some of us can. Not myself these days though (*sob*).
....
>"Harlequin" <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:nh9obu4jh2m6r47m5...@tara.kennel.uk...
>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:13:59 GMT, Kapitano wrote:
>> >On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 06:07:09 GMT, "Spellman AGAIN!" wrote:
....
An interesting top-posting method you have there: quoting some of the
text above your reply then quoting it again in the context of the entire
previous post below.
H.
--
"Ian Mackie is here to prove his back injury is behind him"
[Commentator at Spar Athletics]
Stephen M Baines
>More and more people who actually think about their sexuality realise
>there isn't so much to think about and that <holy gospel> there are no
>heterosexual or homosexual people, just heterosexual or homosexual acts
></>.
Ah, the gospel according to Gore Vidal. The more I read, the more I
really admire the bloke.
--
Stephen M Baines http://www.kitschcamppalace.org.uk
"Just you remember, everything Fred did, I did backwards;
and in high heels"
Matthew Malthouse
Matthew
--
Il est important d'être un homme ou une femme en colère; le jour où nous
quitte la colère, ou le désir, c'est cuit. - Barbara
Matthew Malthouse
}
} Ah to be seventeen and sucking a strange man's knob again...
}
} <wistful sigh>
You run out of strange men then?
Kapitano
wrote:
>>> - gotta say, I do like the idea of being a
>>> straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to men.
>> If you want to email me to discuss your feelings, I'd be happy to listen.
>
>admit it: you're just in it for the blowjob, aren't you?
If I wanted a blowjob, I'd take a half hour walk to one of several
places locally where that service is available.
Penis is nice. Happenis is better.
Kapitano
wrote:
>>Oh yes indeed - if we could give ourselves a blowjob, we'd all be happy! :)
>
>Some of us can. Not myself these days though (*sob*).
"Doctor, I can't give myself blowjobs anymore."
"I see. Extreme depression. Here's some Prozac."
"Will that make me flexible again, doctor?"
"No. But it'll stop you caring."
Kapitano
wrote:
>> I do like the idea of being a straight man who alsio gives blowjobs to
>men.
>
>straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
And there was me thinking *I'd* led a sheltered life.
Kapitano
<use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>} Ah to be seventeen and sucking a strange man's knob again...
>}
>} <wistful sigh>
>
>You run out of strange men then?
All men are strange to me.
mik
>>
>> straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
> However men who call themselves strait sometimes do.
true, but calling yourself strait & being strait are two
different things.
mik
--
as st8-acting as julian clary
mik
>
>>> I do like the idea of being a straight man who alsio gives blowjobs
>>> to men.
>> straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
> And there was me thinking *I'd* led a sheltered life.
so how many REALLY straight men do you know that give blow jobs?
mik
--
never eats pussy
Harlequin
>"Matthew Malthouse" <use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> wrote
>>> straight men don't give blow jobs to other men.
>> However men who call themselves strait sometimes do.
>
>true, but calling yourself strait & being strait are two
>different things.
I feel that the "gay", "straight", "bi", etc. labels are fairly
meaningless anyway. Greg's Vidal quote seems to sum it up quite nicely.
H.
--
"If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, it's
just possible you haven't grasped the situation."
[Jean Kerr -- "Please Don't Eat the Daisies"]
Harlequin
I know many who receive them from blokes, and quite a few who shag
blokes. As to whether they're "really" straight, that's just a matter of
definitions that few people seem able to agree upon.
H.
--
(Non-random sig)
"There are no differences but differences of degree between degrees of
difference and no difference."
[William James]
Trip
>--
>never eats pussy
You've never had a curry or chinese meal round here, then?
--
Stay Gold!
Trip
mik
>
> I know many who receive them from blokes, and quite a few who shag
> blokes. As to whether they're "really" straight, that's just a matter of
> definitions that few people seem able to agree upon.
we we're talking about sucking dick. i definitely wouldn't call
a man who likes to suck dick 'straight'.
mik
--
call me old-fashioned
Matthew Malthouse
} On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 08:21:29 GMT, Matthew Malthouse
} <use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> wrote:
} >} Ah to be seventeen and sucking a strange man's knob again...
} >}
} >} <wistful sigh>
} >
} >You run out of strange men then?
}
} All men are strange to me.
"Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"
Matthew Malthouse
You might not. I might not. But some men who like to suck dick also
like to call themselves strait. Surely you must have come across one or
two in your time?
Kapitano
wrote:
>> I know many who receive them from blokes, and quite a few who shag
>> blokes. As to whether they're "really" straight, that's just a matter of
>> definitions that few people seem able to agree upon.
>
>we we're talking about sucking dick. i definitely wouldn't call
>a man who likes to suck dick 'straight'.
The world is full of people who most people think don't exist.
>call me old-fashioned
Old fashioned.
Lyn David Thomas
Kretz) wrote:
>More and more people who actually think about their sexuality realise
>there isn't so much to think about and that <holy gospel> there are no
>heterosexual or homosexual people, just heterosexual or homosexual acts
></>.
You are Gore Vidal and I claim my 5 copies of Myron
--
\/ Lyn David Thomas
Webpages start at:
http://www.cibwr.freeserve.co.uk
Kapitano
<use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>} All men are strange to me.
>
>"Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"
Er..."I am a man, nothing human is alien to me."
Oh well. Draw your own conclusions from this juxtaposition.
Yaz
news:slrnabr8j2...@repton.netsplit.com...
>
> But some men who like to suck dick also
> like to call themselves strait. Surely you must have come across one or
> two in your time?
>
Fna....
Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
*grin*
yaz :-)
--
SM Dykes Manchester
For Women who do SM with Women
http://www.SMDykes.org.uk
mik
>>
>> never eats pussy
> You've never had a curry
i'm not into brown or red.
> or chinese meal round here, then?
yes, but as far as i know i never had chinese pussy.
mik
--
might have been unconscious
Lyn David Thomas
<ste...@the-samurai-in-autumn.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote:
>Previously, Gregoire Kretz <gregoir...@wanadoo.fr> wrote
>
>>More and more people who actually think about their sexuality realise
>>there isn't so much to think about and that <holy gospel> there are no
>>heterosexual or homosexual people, just heterosexual or homosexual acts
>></>.
>
>Ah, the gospel according to Gore Vidal. The more I read, the more I
>really admire the bloke.
In Jan Morris' excellent Machynlleth Triads he pops up in a reference
as the first UAS Ambassador to the Welsh Republic...
Harlequin
>On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 15:33:01 GMT mik wrote:
>} "Harlequin" <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote
>} > I know many who receive them from blokes, and quite a few who shag
>} > blokes. As to whether they're "really" straight, that's just a matter of
>} > definitions that few people seem able to agree upon.
>}
>} we we're talking about sucking dick. i definitely wouldn't call
>} a man who likes to suck dick 'straight'.
>
>You might not. I might not. But some men who like to suck dick also
>like to call themselves strait. Surely you must have come across one or
>two in your time?
Or even in...
Apologies. I'm in a fnarr mood tonight. Forgive me for I am tired. I'm
spending far too much time in daylight these days.
H. (who has to travel back across the river for yet more rehearsals
tomor^H^H^Hday)
--
"The telephone company is urging people to *please* not use the
telephone unless it is absolutely necessary in order to keep the lines
open for emergency personnel. We'll be right back after this break to
give away a pair of Phil Collins tickets to caller number 95. "
[Los Angeles disc jockey, right after the February 1990 earthquake]
Harlequin
But would you use the term "straight" for men who indulge in the other
activities above?
Some people think that hugging someone of the same gender is proof of
homosexuality, just as some may consider themselves straight blokes who
occasionally like to use other men's willies as prostate stimulators.
Where does one draw commonly agreed lines? The definitions are fuzzy
and, in the end[*], don't actually mean very much.
H.
[*] Okay then... Fnarr.
--
'Kid: "Do not try to bend the spoon, that's impossible. Instead, try and realize the truth"
Neo:"The Truth?"
Kid: "The spoon effect will be added later using some sort of SGI workstation"
[cr0bar's The Matrix]
Trip
>Fna....
>
>Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
>
>*grin*
What? Matthew, easy? We shall have to see!
--
Stay Gold!
Trip
Matthew Malthouse
} On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:55:28 GMT, "Yaz" <Y...@good.co.uk> burbled:
}
} >Fna....
} >
} >Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
} >
} >*grin*
}
} What? Matthew, easy? We shall have to see!
Sometimes. Really?
Matthew Malthouse
} "Matthew Malthouse" <use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
} news:slrnabr8j2...@repton.netsplit.com...
} >
} > But some men who like to suck dick also
} > like to call themselves strait. Surely you must have come across one or
} > two in your time?
} >
}
} Fna....
}
} Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
} *grin*
*grin*
Gregoire Kretz
> Penis is nice. Happenis is better.
LOL! Lovely expression. :)
Greg
--
Housequake!
Gregoire Kretz
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 23:11:17 GMT, gregoir...@wanadoo.fr (Gregoire
> Kretz) wrote:
>
> >More and more people who actually think about their sexuality realise
> >there isn't so much to think about and that <holy gospel> there are no
> >heterosexual or homosexual people, just heterosexual or homosexual acts
> ></>.
>
>
> You are Gore Vidal and I claim my 5 copies of Myron
Oddly enough I've never read either. Am I intoxicated or what?
Greg
--
Housequake!
Gregoire Kretz
> In Jan Morris' excellent Machynlleth Triads he pops up in a reference
> as the first UAS Ambassador to the Welsh Republic...
The first what ambassador?
Greg
--
Housequake!
Gregoire Kretz
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:55:28 GMT, "Yaz" <Y...@good.co.uk> burbled:
>
> >Fna....
> >
> >Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
> >
> >*grin*
>
> What? Matthew, easy?
He is. Just give him the best and he never complains.
> We shall have to see!
This I want to see.
[Greg settles on comfy cushion again and waits]
Greg
--
Housequake!
Trip
(Gregoire Kretz) burbled:
>This I want to see.
>
>[Greg settles on comfy cushion again and waits]
I think you know the answer to your long wait! ;-))
--
Stay Gold!
Trip
sun lover
> Indeed, common wisdom has it that men are far better at giving blowjobs
> than women, if only because they understand the equipment better.
You would think so wouldn't you? A gay friend of mine said he didn't
really enjoy blowjobs because no-one (i.e. no man) had given him one
that was any good. On the other hand I've had some awesome ones from
women. No experience of men though. If I ever have enough experience
to make a comparison on the matter I'll let you know :-)
> One of my favourite statistics is that (according to the British Medical
> Journal) more heterosexuals are into anal sex than homosexuals
> (http://makeashorterlink.com/?E138221B).
Useful link, thanks.
Lyn David Thomas
USA - typo.
Lyn David Thomas
Kretz) wrote:
>> You are Gore Vidal and I claim my 5 copies of Myron
>
>Oddly enough I've never read either. Am I intoxicated or what?
Gore Vidal takes some getting used to, but as an author I rather enjoy
him. His historical series is quite readable. Myron is the sequel to
Myra Beckinridge - don't see the film, not very good.
Harlequin
>Harlequin <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote:
>> Indeed, common wisdom has it that men are far better at giving blowjobs
>> than women, if only because they understand the equipment better.
>
>You would think so wouldn't you? A gay friend of mine said he didn't
>really enjoy blowjobs because no-one (i.e. no man) had given him one
>that was any good. On the other hand I've had some awesome ones from
>women. No experience of men though. If I ever have enough experience
>to make a comparison on the matter I'll let you know :-)
Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women? I suspect that a
definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals (or, at least, of
people with substantial experience of both male and female blowjobs).
H.
--
"Do not keep saying to yourself "But how can it be like that?" because
you will get [...] into a blind alley from which nobody has yet escaped.
Nobody knows how it can be like that."
[Dr Richard Feynman]
Trip
<use...@calmeilles.demon.co.uk> burbled:
>} What? Matthew, easy? We shall have to see!
>
>Sometimes. Really?
Mmmm. Yeah. Remember Shaw Taylor?
"Keep 'em peeled!"
--
Stay Gold!
Trip
>
>Matthew
John Rayment
Gregoire Kretz wrote:
> Kapitano <kapi...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> > Penis is nice. Happenis is better.
>
> LOL! Lovely expression. :)
<kendodd>
A penis
A penis
The greatest gift that we possess.
I thank the Lord that I've been blessed,
With more than my share of a penis.
</kd>
BaldJohn
Niles
|
|Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women? I suspect that a
|definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals (or, at least, of
|people with substantial experience of both male and female blowjobs).
Yes... but... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
likely to be putting it about a bit with other people who put it about a
bit, who are not necessarily a representative sample.
--
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But even if I did, well, what's it to ya?
There's a blaze of light in every word, no matter which you heard
The holy or the broken hallelujah.
Owain
| On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 06:54:11 GMT Trip wrote:
| } On Wed, 17 Apr 2002 19:55:28 GMT, "Yaz" <Y...@good.co.uk> burbled:
| } >Fna....
| } >Sometimes it's just too easy ;-)
I didn't see that one till you pointed it out. Then I had a distressinly
rapid tea:keyboard interface scenario.
| } What? Matthew, easy? We shall have to see!
| Sometimes. Really?
<b/g music> Easy like Sunday morning ...
Owain
Harlequin
>Harlequin <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote:
>|Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women? I suspect that a
>|definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals (or, at least, of
>|people with substantial experience of both male and female blowjobs).
>Yes... but... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
>likely to be putting it about a bit with other people who put it about a
>bit, who are not necessarily a representative sample.
Would it be better to compare blowjobs from beginners or from experts?
In the days when I used to put it about a bit (in those far gone times
when people were interested) I was involved with quite a few people from
both categories (although, unfortunately for the purpose of this query,
all male).
How about assembling a team of virgin bisexuals and sending equal
numbers of people of both genders to them?
H.
--
* Won't somebody please think of the children?
sun lover
> Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women?
No he's never had sex with women
> I suspect that a definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals
> (or, at least, of people with substantial experience of both male and
> female blowjobs).
True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
grant to do it...)
sun lover
>... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
> likely to be putting it about a bit with other people who put it about a
> bit, who are not necessarily a representative sample.
Weeeelll... comparing people who put it about a bit with people who
don't put it about a bit could be misleading, but comparing gay people
who put it about a bit with straight people who put it about a bit
would be valid, wouldn't it?
That almost made sense I think...
Matthew Malthouse
} Harlequin <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote:
}
} |
} |Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women? I suspect that a
} |definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals (or, at least, of
} |people with substantial experience of both male and female blowjobs).
}
} Yes... but... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
} likely to be putting it about a bit with other people who put it about a
} bit, who are not necessarily a representative sample.
Doulbe blind trials required?
Kapitano
wrote:
>* Won't somebody please think of the children?
<thinks of the children>
Now what?
-- Shaven Kapitano seeks caring marxist/anarchist
for meaningless sex and meaningful philosophy.
Kapitano
wrote:
>> I suspect that a definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals
>> (or, at least, of people with substantial experience of both male and
>> female blowjobs).
>
>True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
>grant to do it...)
<cough>
Trip
(Kapitano) burbled:
><cough>
Yes, Grant, I think this IS your cue! Shall I get them to form
an orderly one?
--
Stay Gold!
Trip
Harlequin
>> I suspect that a definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals
>> (or, at least, of people with substantial experience of both male and
>> female blowjobs).
>
>True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
>grant to do it...)
I might be willing to participate. What does this Grant bloke look like?
H.
--
"Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for
I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me the
hell alone."
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Harlequin
It did to me. It could be, however, that inexperienced males, for
example, give better head than inexperienced females but that females
improve their techniques faster than males.
H.
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Harlequin
>On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:21:52 GMT, Harlequin wrote:
>>* Won't somebody please think of the children?
>
><thinks of the children>
>Now what?
Now strip away everyone's rights to protect the poor little darlings.
For would it not be worth fitting compulsory CCTVs in the forehead of
every adult if it would save the innocence of just one child? (Or,
indeed, if it would frustrate the plans of anyone who opposed U.S.
interes... errr... I mean terrorists).
H.
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Gregoire Kretz
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:50:47 GMT Niles wrote:
> } Harlequin <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote:
> }
> } |
> } |Has you gay friend received better blowjobs from women? I suspect that a
> } |definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals (or, at least, of
> } |people with substantial experience of both male and female blowjobs).
> }
> } Yes... but... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
> } likely to be putting it about a bit with other people who put it about a
> } bit, who are not necessarily a representative sample.
>
> Doulbe blind trials required?
So what placebo would you administer as a fake blowjob?
Greg
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Gregoire Kretz
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:32:01 GMT, sunlo...@hotmail.com (sun lover)
> wrote:
> >> I suspect that a definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals
> >> (or, at least, of people with substantial experience of both male and
> >> female blowjobs).
> >
> >True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
> >grant to do it...)
>
> <cough>
LOL!
Greg
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Kapitano
wrote:
>>>* Won't somebody please think of the children?
>><thinks of the children>
>>Now what?
>
>Now strip away everyone's rights to protect the poor little darlings.
>For would it not be worth fitting compulsory CCTVs in the forehead of
>every adult
//Citizen KAP1138, stop whatever it is you're doing! You seem to be
repeatedly headbutting someone's stomach. You're making our monitoring
operatives seasick.//
>if it would save the innocence of just one child?
Well......as long as it's a white child. And not gay.
>(Or,
>indeed, if it would frustrate the plans of anyone who opposed U.S.
>interes... errr... I mean terrorists).
Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Muslim Terrorist
Party?
-- Kapitano
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Kapitano
<tr...@timeforce.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>><cough>
>
>Yes, Grant, I think this IS your cue! Shall I get them to form
>an orderly one?
No pushing at the back! Lots of pushing at the front! No more than
three experimental subjects at once.
Kapitano
wrote:
>>> I suspect that a definitive answer would require a survey of bisexuals
>>> (or, at least, of people with substantial experience of both male and
>>> female blowjobs).
>>
>>True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
>>grant to do it...)
>
>I might be willing to participate. What does this Grant bloke look like?
At the moment, he is overweight, has short hair, and posts under the
name Kapitano.
(And he's desp^H^H^H^Havailable for Bar Mitzvahs, Chuldren's Parties,
and Scientific Experiments.)
Kapitano
Kretz) wrote:
>So what placebo would you administer as a fake blowjob?
Wrap some warm pigs livers around it.
Gregoire Kretz
> On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 12:32:01 GMT, sun lover wrote:
> >Harlequin <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote:
> ....
> >True, or some first-hand research perhaps (wonder if you could get a
> >grant to do it...)
>
> I might be willing to participate. What does this Grant bloke look like?
Shaved, Marxist and yogurt-producing of course.
Greg
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Matthew Malthouse
gregoir...@wanadoo.fr (Gregoire Kretz) wrote:
:-)
I was thinkng that neither sucker nor suckee should know the sexuality of
other trial subjects to minise the subjectivity of assessments.
Matthew
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Niles
|
|I was thinkng that neither sucker nor suckee should know the sexuality of
|other trial subjects to minise the subjectivity of assessments.
Or gender, I suppose?
I mean the sucker would probably get a pretty, er, firm idea, but the suckee
need not necessarily know.
mik
>
> You might not. I might not. But some men who like to suck dick also
> like to call themselves strait. Surely you must have come across one or
> two in your time?
nope. maybe i live in a more liberated country where we call a spade
a spade and a fag not 'strait', but no, i never met anybody like that
calling themselves strait.
mik
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mik
>
> But would you use the term "straight" for men who indulge in the other
> activities above?
sucking, definitely not. getting fucked, neither. getting sucked & fucking
are different stories. i could imagine that in some situations (prison, the
army) the urge gets so high that a straight man might indulge in something
like that. but if women are available and a man choses to fuck a guy
i'd not call him straight.
mik
Harlequin
>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 14:12:04 GMT, Harlequin wrote:
>>>>* Won't somebody please think of the children?
>>><thinks of the children>
>>>Now what?
>>
>>Now strip away everyone's rights to protect the poor little darlings.
>>For would it not be worth fitting compulsory CCTVs in the forehead of
>>every adult
>
>//Citizen KAP1138, stop whatever it is you're doing! You seem to be
>repeatedly headbutting someone's stomach. You're making our monitoring
>operatives seasick.//
LOL!
>>if it would save the innocence of just one child?
>
>Well......as long as it's a white child. And not gay.
....
And, naturally, not the offspring of a single mother. Oops, I seem to
have lost track of contemporary scapegoats. I meant, not the offspring
of a refug^H^H^H^H^Hasylum seeker.
H.
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Harlequin
Where is it written that "straight" people can remain "straight" when
they indulge in fellatio and buggery just so long as a penis never
enters their bodies? You appear to be using a very personal definition
(allowing for the fact that you may be translating "gay" into a Dutch
equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous) and perhaps should accept
that other people use other definitions with just as much validity.
BTW, what would you think of someone who identified hirself as
"bisexual" describing hirself as being both "gay" and "straight"?
H.
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paul
>On Fri, 19 Apr 2002 13:21:03 GMT, sun lover wrote:
>>Niles <alex....@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>>... people (of whatsoever flavour) who put it about a bit are
>>> [...] not necessarily a representative sample.
>>Weeeelll... comparing people who put it about a bit with people who
>>don't put it about a bit could be misleading, but comparing gay people
>>who put it about a bit with straight people who put it about a bit
>>would be valid, wouldn't it?
>>That almost made sense I think...
>
>It did to me. It could be, however, that inexperienced males, for
>example, give better head than inexperienced females but that females
>improve their techniques faster than males.
It could, but IME (which includes more than ten years of females)
inexperienced females gain some degree of proficiency but still remain
unaware as to the intimate and varying characteristics and sensitivities
of the physical areas; e.g. those with long nails seem to forget that
even an accidental brush with a nail tip in a sensually and erotically
heightened zone can be so very painful, diminish pleasure and cause
problems with expectancy; whilst a male, inexperienced or not, seems to
easily, probably instinctively, have a better grasp of the knack and
techniques.
If he's experienced, it seems to me, so much the better, but it's not
necessarily a prerequisite since sensitivity, tactility, awareness and
being in tune with the recipient can make up for lack of experience.
>From my experience, nothing can beat a male for me, but then I'm male
and it's an interesting correlation that my lesbian friends aver that
nothing can beat a female when it comes to cunnilingus...
--
paul (C) © 2002 is mine
Stephen M Baines
>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:23:20 GMT, gregoir...@wanadoo.fr (Gregoire
>Kretz) wrote:
>>So what placebo would you administer as a fake blowjob?
>
>Wrap some warm pigs livers around it.
I'm sure that reminds me of a film, but for the life of me I can't
remember which one at the moment.
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Christian Hansen
<ste...@the-samurai-in-autumn.kitschcamppalace.org.uk> wrote:
>Previously, Kapitano <kapi...@btinternet.com> wrote
>>On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:23:20 GMT, gregoir...@wanadoo.fr (Gregoire
>>Kretz) wrote:
>>>So what placebo would you administer as a fake blowjob?
>>
>>Wrap some warm pigs livers around it.
>
>I'm sure that reminds me of a film, but for the life of me I can't
>remember which one at the moment.
Portnoy's Complaint, no doubt.
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Gregoire Kretz
wrote:
> Previously, Kapitano <kapi...@btinternet.com> wrote
> >On Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:23:20 GMT, gregoir...@wanadoo.fr (Gregoire
> >Kretz) wrote:
> >>So what placebo would you administer as a fake blowjob?
> >
> >Wrap some warm pigs livers around it.
>
> I'm sure that reminds me of a film, but for the life of me I can't
> remember which one at the moment.
Leolo.
Greg
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mik
>
> You appear to be using a very personal definition
well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
> (allowing for the fact that you may be translating "gay" into a Dutch
> equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous)
we were discussing the term 'straight', not the term 'gay'.
> BTW, what would you think of someone who identified hirself as
> "bisexual" describing hirself as being both "gay" and "straight"?
i'd call him/her bisexual.
mik
Kapitano
wrote:
>> You appear to be using a very personal definition
>
>well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
>man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
>a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
>not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
Not difficult at all. Just completely inadaquate.
-- Kapitano
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mik
"Kapitano" <kapi...@btinternet.com> wrote
>>
>> well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
>> man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
>> a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
>> not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
> Not difficult at all. Just completely inadaquate.
then what is your definition of a straight man?
mik
Harlequin
>> You appear to be using a very personal definition
>
>well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
>man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
>a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
>not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
No, but it's still very personal. It also seems to conflict with some of
your earlier statements, such as accepting that "straight men" may want
to receive blowjobs from other men or even shag them. Unless you're not
only going for the Clinton definition of "sex" but also excluding
buggery.
>> (allowing for the fact that you may be translating "gay" into a Dutch
>> equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous)
>
>we were discussing the term 'straight', not the term 'gay'.
True. I should have written that you may be translating "straight" into
a Dutch equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous.
>> BTW, what would you think of someone who identified hirself as
>> "bisexual" describing hirself as being both "gay" and "straight"?
>
>i'd call him/her bisexual.
But would you accept their defining themselves as being, at least
partially, "straight".
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mik
"Harlequin" <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote
>>
>> well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
>> man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
>> a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
>> not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
> No, but it's still very personal. It also seems to conflict with some of
> your earlier statements, such as accepting that "straight men" may want
> to receive blowjobs from other men or even shag them.
well, that statement came with the notion of men being in prison
or in the army, situations where there's no women available, and
the urge to have sex gets so high that they'd fuck a sheep.
> True. I should have written that you may be translating "straight" into
> a Dutch equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous.
straight = heterosexual.
>>> BTW, what would you think of someone who identified hirself as
>>> "bisexual" describing hirself as being both "gay" and "straight"?
>> i'd call him/her bisexual.
> But would you accept their defining themselves as being, at least
> partially, "straight".
partially, yes.
mik
Harlequin
>"Harlequin" <harl...@fnord.org.uk> wrote
>>> well, my definition for a straight man is very simple: a straight
>>> man does not want to have sex with another man. therefore
>>> a man who fantasises about sucking of some other man is
>>> not straight in my eyes. not that difficult, huh?
>> No, but it's still very personal. It also seems to conflict with some of
>> your earlier statements, such as accepting that "straight men" may want
>> to receive blowjobs from other men or even shag them.
>
>well, that statement came with the notion of men being in prison
>or in the army, situations where there's no women available, and
>the urge to have sex gets so high that they'd fuck a sheep.
I'll remind you that I know people who prefer sheep to humans of any
gender :-)
So are you saying that men who have sex with other men in prison don't
actually want it (even if their hormones somehow override their "true"
desires and self control, which sounds like a pro-rape argument to me,
why they don't just have a wank?) or that your "not difficult"
definition requires modification to exclude certain circumstances?
>> True. I should have written that you may be translating "straight" into
>> a Dutch equivalent that isn't absolutely synonymous.
>
>straight = heterosexual.
There's one problem then. As pointed out earlier, the two terms aren't
strictly synonymous in English.
>>>> BTW, what would you think of someone who identified hirself as
>>>> "bisexual" describing hirself as being both "gay" and "straight"?
>>> i'd call him/her bisexual.
>> But would you accept their defining themselves as being, at least
>> partially, "straight".
>
>partially, yes.
So you accept that a bisexual male, who at least some of the time wants
sex with other men, can be "straight"? Have you previously been
employing "straight = absolutely exclusively heterosexual at all times"?
That's very different to "straight = heterosexual", the literal
definition of "heterosexual" implying no exclusion of homosexual
behaviour or desire.
H.
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