ECTS
Paul Irvine
Saturday drink.
Poor turn out but we still had a laugh. Met Derek Jolly for the 1st
time, nice bloke as well.
Chris Jones played the dying swan trick and failed the meet leaving me,
Jimbo, Graham and Derek to prop up the bar so to speak.
Sunday..
Hmmmm The ECTS is skimpy this year, little or no 'freebies', lots of
obvious under 18's and as Jim Makin said to me during the show "its very
'console'".
Game wise some nice bits but will slap a better post re them after a
calm monday visit. Lots of things looked 'samey' is all I can say at the
mo.
Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
Roll on Monday and a soothing arse free day...
--
Paul Irvine
Wise men talk because they have something to say;
Fools talk because they have to say something.
Plato (429-347 BC)
John Maynard
Irvine) wrote:
>
>
>Sunday..
>
Got to agree with everything here, very disspointing show compared to
last year. No Electronic Arts, no big Microsoft stand, Eidos only
doing interviews by appointment and nothing on display
The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
there was nothing by 4pm.
Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
lunch-boxes..
So what did you get? I got 3 tshirts (infogrammes, grandprix
something, 3dfx), one of those Stones-in-a-pyramid box, floppy cloth
Alien Brian bag and a pile of demo cds that I probably won't bother
looking at. Oh, and a rug-rats lucky bag. I might go back tomorrow
with my screwdriver....
Dc Good Tings
>My ECTS visit (SUNDAY ONLY)
>Went on monday
>Nintendo:-
>Impressed by the following games
Donkey kong 64
Ready to rumble looked ggood on everything but the palystation even
midway i think were embaressed by this as i had to ask if this is what
it going to look like to one of the midway staff available
>
>Playstation:-
>Once again nothing outstanding apart from resident evil 3 which i thought looked really good graphic wise and played well
>Prince nassem boxing looked good played a bit suspicous though
>Dreamcast:-
>The best game by far had to be ready to rumble this could definetly sell a good few
dreamcast alone just on this title
>
>Women & Freebies:
>Now this had to be a close draw because there were only 2 stands that
had any decent women and they where MCV and the girls on the rave e
jay stand but i think by a gstring the winners had to be the rave e
jay dancers
while on the subject did any 1 see the guy dancing on the psx dance
mat the poor fellow was dancing , jumping for over 1 hour straight and
he was sweating buckets
i said to him you have to do a lot to get a t- shirt off this stand !
>Summary:-
>Every one put in a good show but id have to hand it to midway brilliant showing of some exellent games
Question why where edios hidden away in aroom guarded by some big
bouncers ? and isnt dave perry tall sorry 4 nudge u in the back !
Giveaways what giveaways see seperate post on this
lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
.
>
>Award Time.
>
>Best PSX Game: Res Evil 3
>Best N64 Game: Rayman 2 / Donkey kong 64
>Best Dreamcast Game: Ready to Rumble (by far )
>Best Stand: Rave E Jay / Midway
>Best Women: Rave E Jay ( Night mares about sporty )
>Best Freebie: Dreamcast (joke) Sony Demo Cd (tony hawks )
>
>Until Next Year.
>
>--
Dc Good Stuff
Next year we demand more freebies
>
>
Simon Barker
>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:07:49 GMT, mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk (Paul
>Irvine) wrote:
>
>>Sunday..
>>
>Got to agree with everything here, very disspointing show compared to
>last year. No Electronic Arts, no big Microsoft stand, Eidos only
>doing interviews by appointment and nothing on display
>
>
>The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
>up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
>there was nothing by 4pm.
The D pad was a bit naff but it's not exactly something you can hate it on
alone.
>Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
>good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
>lunch-boxes..
All I got out of them was a demo disc and badge and this blue liquid thing
with the PSX logos floating around inside, I want that bloody double music cd!
You need to track down one of the girls wandering about with the bag full of
various things but they're not exactly amazing stuff. On the bright side I
managed to get an Intel Bunnyman in blue, green and silver, they're better
quality than last years lot :]
>So what did you get? I got 3 tshirts (infogrammes, grandprix
>something, 3dfx), one of those Stones-in-a-pyramid box, floppy cloth
>Alien Brian bag and a pile of demo cds that I probably won't bother
>looking at. Oh, and a rug-rats lucky bag. I might go back tomorrow
>with my screwdriver....
Tsk ECTS gets worse every year, Nvidia stand was amazingly disappointing, if
someone really wants in all they have to do is lie about being press or a vip
at registration baahh...
niaz khan
Nintendo:-
I was very impressed with the nintendo stand, they had all there big games
apart from "spaceworld titles" . Rare were in top form again with an
amazing Perfect Dark & Jet Force & DK64. Other titles on the nintendo stand
that impressed me where Rayman 2, graphically the best game at the show,
miles better than any dreamcast game, If playability is tuned this could be
a stormer of a game. Also Ready to Rumble a very good N64 version. I just
got the impression that Nintendo where showing everything just to make up
for one last Big Xmas.
Playstation:-
An overkill of Sequel Mania with Wipeout 3, FF8, Gran Turisimo 2, Spryo
the Dragon 2, Track & Field 2 , Ace Combat 3 e.t.c.
There was nothing on the playstation that made me go WOW !! what a game GT2
was the same with new models. FF8 the same with life - size characters and
so on.
What really killed it for me was the playstation version of ready to
rumble, after playing the DC version which is amazing & the N64 version
which again was surprising I was just shocked by the blocky polygony type
graphics of the psx version. This was what I would call the wake - up call
for me to possibly retire my playstation & jump the next leap.
Dreamcast:-
The first game I played on entering the show, Trickstyle a futuristic
skateboarding title & the graphics & playability had me in awe & amazement.
Apart from that I had played all the other DC game's on a friends DC. I
would have liked to see Soul Caliber & maybe Shenume make an appearance but
to no avail.
Women & Freebies:
Women ahh what can I say it's heaven. Freebies not bad this year got 2
T-shirts, psx key ring, pen & badges, loads of demo discs. Some Audio Cd &
a photo with some Pokemon. The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
Summary:-
Nintendo 64 came out showing everything, in fact I was so impressed by the
games on show that on the way home I picked up a US Nintendo 64 with
Goldeneye, Lylat Wars & Banjo Kazooie from CEX. I admit the machine has 2-3
games released a month but the quality of those games are amazing & with
the 4 meg ram card which by the way 85% of the n64 game's had running it
makes the graphics on par with a DC. I just can't wait for Perfect Dark,
DK64, Ridge Racer, Jet Force, Shadowman, Mario Golf, Mario Party e.t.c. But
like I said above I feel this will be the last xmas for the N64. The
Playstation will keep kid's happy with load's of baby game's and all the
people who want sequels but nothing original of note. I was really
disappointed with the psx but on hindsight after 5 years It would have to
be something amazing to impress on old technology. I have decided to keep
the playstation for one reason only RPG'S. The Dreamcast graphically show
of it's power, I would recommend the DC to people who are bored with the
PSX & do not want to go to Nintendo or who are loaded. Myself I will wait
until Easter 2000. Overall I wasn't impressed with this show to last year,
but then last year was my first time at ECTS.
Award Time.
Best PSX Game: Jade Cocoon
Best N64 Game: Perfect Dark/Rayman 2
Best Dreamcast Game: Ready to Rumble/House of the Dead
Best Stand: Nintendo
Best Women: MCV News Girls (ummmmm)
Best Freebie: Sony Keyring,Demo & Music CD.
Until Next Year.
--
Niaz
niaz khan
--
Niaz
Simon Barker <sim...@dircon.co.uk> wrote in article
<37d37...@newsread3.dircon.co.uk>...
> On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 19:39:18 GMT, John Maynard says...
>
> >On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:07:49 GMT, mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk (Paul
> >Irvine) wrote:
> >
> >>Sunday..
> >>
> >Got to agree with everything here, very disspointing show compared to
> >last year. No Electronic Arts, no big Microsoft stand, Eidos only
> >doing interviews by appointment and nothing on display
> >
> >
> >The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
> >up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
> >there was nothing by 4pm.
>
> The D pad was a bit naff but it's not exactly something you can hate it
on
> alone.
Personally I think it was cack !! roll on Gameboy - next gen.
>
> >Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
> >good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
> >lunch-boxes..
>
> All I got out of them was a demo disc and badge and this blue liquid
thing
> with the PSX logos floating around inside, I want that bloody double
music cd!
> You need to track down one of the girls wandering about with the bag full
of
> various things but they're not exactly amazing stuff. On the bright side
I
> managed to get an Intel Bunnyman in blue, green and silver, they're
better
> quality than last years lot :]
I managed to get the music cd from the counter.
Jose Cardoso
Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37d3af7...@news.freeserve.net...
>
> Saturday drink.
>
> Poor turn out but we still had a laugh. Met Derek Jolly for the 1st
> time, nice bloke as well.
>
> Chris Jones played the dying swan trick and failed the meet leaving me,
> Jimbo, Graham and Derek to prop up the bar so to speak.
Shame I missed this :(
> Sunday..
>
> Hmmmm The ECTS is skimpy this year, little or no 'freebies', lots of
> obvious under 18's and as Jim Makin said to me during the show "its very
> 'console'".
I'll say. Sony were being a bit tight fisted too. Nice pens and bags but
unless you were 7foot you didn't stand much chance of grabbing anything. I
did walk away with a Mental Wealth CD but that was all. PS2 technical videos
were impressive though.
And then there was the heat. My God it was bad this year. Air conditioning
went as far as two open doors.
> Game wise some nice bits but will slap a better post re them after a
> calm monday visit. Lots of things looked 'samey' is all I can say at the
> mo.
Agreed. Only a few games stood out for me.
> Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
>
> Roll on Monday and a soothing arse free day...
I had one major complaint about ECTS this year. Why can't any of the
exhibitors hook up their displays properly? You'd think with all the decent
Plasma screens, LCD panels, projectors and 32"+ TV's that someone would know
how to connect a SCART cable!
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Jose Cardoso
John Maynard <base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37d2c40...@news.dircon.co.uk...
>
>[snip]
>
> Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
> good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
> lunch-boxes..
T-Shirts and bags were being given out but were extremely scarce and nowhere
near me to grab one.
> So what did you get? I got 3 tshirts (infogrammes, grandprix
> something, 3dfx), one of those Stones-in-a-pyramid box, floppy cloth
> Alien Brian bag and a pile of demo cds that I probably won't bother
> looking at. Oh, and a rug-rats lucky bag. I might go back tomorrow
> with my screwdriver....
A few demo cd's, magazines, but that was it. Couldn't be bothered this year
to grab any more.
Jose Cardoso
Asif Johar <ajo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:37d5e8dc...@news.clara.net...
>
>[snip]
>
> Hopefully I'll get to play a bit more of Perfect Dark on the N64, the
> highlight of my visit :)
I played but thought it was too jerky. The game is good but that slowdown
has to go.
> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
niaz khan
venture into the virgin stand man what a sauna!!
--
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Jose Cardoso <jcar...@gentia.block.com> wrote in article
<936611423.12979.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
niaz khan
just sat and played games I wanted to test.
--
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Jose Cardoso <jcar...@gentia.block.com> wrote in article
<936611562.13031.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>
> John Maynard <base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:37d2c40...@news.dircon.co.uk...
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> > Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
> > good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
> > lunch-boxes..
>
> T-Shirts and bags were being given out but were extremely scarce and
nowhere
> near me to grab one.
>
> > So what did you get? I got 3 tshirts (infogrammes, grandprix
> > something, 3dfx), one of those Stones-in-a-pyramid box, floppy cloth
> > Alien Brian bag and a pile of demo cds that I probably won't bother
> > looking at. Oh, and a rug-rats lucky bag. I might go back tomorrow
> > with my screwdriver....
>
> A few demo cd's, magazines, but that was it. Couldn't be bothered this
year
> to grab any more.
>
niaz khan
release. Juicy Babes I thought there where loads the MCV Girls/Codemasters/
Acclaim are memories. I think next year I am will take a camera for some
snaps !!. Watch out for my scan image of a babe coming soon !!
--
Niaz
Jose Cardoso <jcar...@gentia.block.com> wrote in article
<936611817.13135.0...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>
> Asif Johar <ajo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37d5e8dc...@news.clara.net...
> >
> >[snip]
> >
> > Hopefully I'll get to play a bit more of Perfect Dark on the N64, the
> > highlight of my visit :)
>
> I played but thought it was too jerky. The game is good but that slowdown
> has to go.
>
> > Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
> > suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
>
> So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
> Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>
Jim M
>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 18:07:49 GMT, mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk (Paul
>Irvine) wrote:
>>
>>Sunday..
>>
>Got to agree with everything here, very disspointing show compared to
>last year. No Electronic Arts, no big Microsoft stand, Eidos only
>doing interviews by appointment and nothing on display
Nothing much really, which is surprising.
>The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
>up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
>there was nothing by 4pm.
That was a bit silly of them. We were playing them about the 5:30pm
time, and they all seemed to be there. Looks like they had a shed-
load of replacements...
>Was it just me, or were Sony not handing out very much? A reasonably
>good double music CD and demo disc, but no mugs, tshirts,
>lunch-boxes..
Sod all really. Sat and played G-Police 2 for about 30 minutes, and
some Sony bints came round. Threw a PSX badge at me (cheers) and a
PSX bag at Derek (eh ?? what ??? wos-that-all-about-them ??). So it
looks like you got more, sitting and playing the games, and not
hanging around for freebies :-)
>I might go back tomorrow
>with my screwdriver....
:-)
Jim M
--
@ Derbyshire
"The Rebels are here Sir.
I don't know what they want, but they're carrying a flag."
Jim M
>Olympia has always been bad for air conditioning did anyone manage to
>venture into the virgin stand man what a sauna!!
People thought the Sony area was hot, but compared to last year, it
was an ice-box. Yes, we did wander into the Virgin area, and 2
minutes later, crawled back out again. They must have set the stand
up over the boilers or something, as it was unbareable. Felt sorry
for the Virgin staff working in there all day :-( They win the
"Hottest stand of 1999".
Julie Brandon
>> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
>> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
>
>So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
>Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
completely ugly!
Might be a giggle one year, perhaps next year, see how it goes.
Could stay at my folks, and pop in via train.
Where are they held?
Ta-ra,
Julie.
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a word of it -- relax, and take it all with a pinch of salt. Any relevance
to real life is purely co-incidental, and is statistically very unlikely.
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Julie Brandon <jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:slrn7t7hbd...@merp.demon.co.uk...
> On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:56:27 +0100, Jose Cardoso did spake:
> >> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
> >> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
> >
> >So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
> >Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>
> One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
> I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
> completely ugly!
Hell, you should see some of the people who turn up :)
> Might be a giggle one year, perhaps next year, see how it goes.
> Could stay at my folks, and pop in via train.
>
> Where are they held?
The ECTS? It's held in at the Kensington Olympia, London. Catch a train to
Clapham Junction and there's a two stop connection from there. You'll end up
right outside the exhibition hall.
Andrew Thomason
>
>Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
>
Is it just me, or am I the only one who doesn't mind borders?
In fact, I PREFER games with borders.
With a wide screen TV, games which are 16:9 or 14:9 (or similar) will quite
happily run in almost full screen without looking out of proportion.
Full screen 4:3 software for a 'normal' telly (i.e. no borders), only looks
right
in 4:3 mode (with vertical borders), I can't use the extra bit of screen I
paid for.
Even Brookside has borders these days. Have a look if you don't believe me.
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James Sutherland
news:37d37...@newsread3.dircon.co.uk...
> >The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
> >up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
> >there was nothing by 4pm.
>
> alone.
>
It's great - it's microswitched and is wonderful for playing fighting games.
I find it far better than any pad I've used on a console.
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<ja...@threepwood.screaming.net> wrote:
>Simon Barker <sim...@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37d37...@newsread3.dircon.co.uk...
>> >The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
>> >up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
>> >there was nothing by 4pm.
>>
>> The D pad was a bit naff but it's not exactly something you can hate it on
>> alone.
>>
>You're kidding! I've never known anybody to dislike the stick on the NGPC.
>It's great - it's microswitched and is wonderful for playing fighting games.
>I find it far better than any pad I've used on a console.
Gotta agree with you there James.........definitely far better than
the Gameboy. Metal Slug and the Tennis that I tried it on, both played
a treat.
Definitely will consider the NGPC if the games base is a bit more
varied than the Console was........one can only stand so many Beat Em
ups. :-)
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the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the
Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost, in time, like tears
in the rain. Time to die."
Paul Irvine
>Simon Barker <sim...@dircon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37d37...@newsread3.dircon.co.uk...
>> >The NeoGeo looked good, also it looked like a number had been snaffed
>> >up by fans; where there were machines held by a simple screw and bolt,
>> >there was nothing by 4pm.
>>
>> The D pad was a bit naff but it's not exactly something you can hate it on
>> alone.
>>
>You're kidding! I've never known anybody to dislike the stick on the NGPC.
>It's great - it's microswitched and is wonderful for playing fighting games.
>I find it far better than any pad I've used on a console.
Yep, even I liked it which is amazing..
Btw, were you hiding James? Didn't see you, Chris Jackson or either SCEE
bods (Paul and Iain) anywhere...
Maybe see you next year...
Paul Irvine
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:56:27 +0100, Jose Cardoso did spake:
>>> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
>>> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
>>
>>So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
>>Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>
>One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
>I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
>completely ugly!
Nah, don't be silly...Lots of shapes, sizes and features there.
Everyone too busy playing or looking at what's on offer to care what
others look like..
The bods on the stands are OTT, either Arnie types or painted big
chested women...ie not real everyday folk :)
What was nice was seeing a couple of wheel chair bound folk getting
prime treatment on the stands.
>
>Might be a giggle one year, perhaps next year, see how it goes.
>Could stay at my folks, and pop in via train.
>
>Where are they held?
These days its at Olympia
Paul Irvine
>Sod all really. Sat and played G-Police 2 for about 30 minutes, and
>some Sony bints came round. Threw a PSX badge at me (cheers) and a
>PSX bag at Derek (eh ?? what ??? wos-that-all-about-them ??). So it
>looks like you got more, sitting and playing the games, and not
>hanging around for freebies :-)
>
That's what they did today (monday). I asked one of the bints and she
kindly informed me of the way it worked (freebies for those playing) and
also she followed me round till I found a seat and gave me a bag (had
one already) then she found us again and handed over a mug and a key
ring to split between me and Jimbo.
James Sutherland
>
> Btw, were you hiding James? Didn't see you, Chris Jackson or either SCEE
> bods (Paul and Iain) anywhere...
>
Sunday!
Maybe I'll be bothered to go next year...
John Maynard
Tings) wrote:
>
>lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
>the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
>pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
My press pass got me a double album and demo PSX CD, nice, and three
press cds in pink,white and orange cases. Oh, and a big magazine.
Anyone else notice - no references anywhere to the pocket station? I'm
going to ask about that tomorrow....
Paul Irvine
wrote:
>Paul Irvine wrote in message <37d3af7...@news.freeserve.net>...
>
>>
>>Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
>>
>
>Is it just me, or am I the only one who doesn't mind borders?
Drugs are bad for you..leave 'em alone!!! :)
>In fact, I PREFER games with borders.
Why?...The borders serve in most cases to show that it's a shite
conversion that's going to slow down at some point and certainly isn't
anywhere near as good as th NTSC version speed wise.
How it looks on screen ie fitting on the screen is the last thing you
should worry about in games.
>Even Brookside has borders these days. Have a look if you don't believe me.
Yes it is, but for a different reason, Brookie is done that way for
widescreen viewing. C4 show most programs is widescreen or as near as..
Saves the task of doing any Pan and scan crap for the TV viewers..
Stuart Campbell
James Sutherland <ja...@threepwood.screaming.net> wrote in message
> You're kidding! I've never known anybody to dislike the stick on the
NGPC.
> It's great - it's microswitched and is wonderful for playing fighting
games.
It's terrible for anything that requires predominantly four-directional
movement, though. Luckily, if you buy Pac-Man, you get a funny little
rubber-ring thing that fits over the pad into one of those little grooves
round the side and improves things greatly by making the diagonals hard to
get. Nice to know SNK were aware of the problems, but how come the ring
didn't come with the machine?
Derek Jolly
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 18:58:01 +0100, "James Sutherland"
><ja...@threepwood.screaming.net> wrote:
<snip>
>>You're kidding! I've never known anybody to dislike the stick on the
>>NGPC. It's great - it's microswitched and is wonderful for playing
>>fighting games. I find it far better than any pad I've used on a
>>console.
>
>Gotta agree with you there James.........definitely far better than
>the Gameboy. Metal Slug and the Tennis that I tried it on, both played
>a treat.
Definitely. I had a little go on it yesterday. I love that little
joystick type D-pad. Got a lovely looking screen too.
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Derek Jolly
>like yourself I could not be asked to run around getting freebies rather
>I just sat and played games I wanted to test.
Same here. I wasn't really bothered about freebies, but I did get
a Sony demo disc yesterday, and one of those Playstation shoulder
bags that the girls were wandering around with in the Sony stand on
Sunday.
Derek Jolly
>Sod all really. Sat and played G-Police 2 for about 30 minutes, and
>some Sony bints came round. Threw a PSX badge at me (cheers) and a
>PSX bag at Derek (eh ?? what ??? wos-that-all-about-them ??). So it
>looks like you got more, sitting and playing the games, and not
>hanging around for freebies :-)
Great, wasn't it? The girl asked me if I wanted a badge, I said no
so she said "Have a bag instead" and threw me the PSX bag.
I wasn't complaining. :)
You were too busy on G-Police 2 at the time.
Derek Jolly
<snip>
>a photo with some Pokemon. The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
>huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
>
Whoa there hoss! No binaries here please.
Iain Brown
Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:37d52537...@news.freeserve.net...
>
> Btw, were you hiding James? Didn't see you, Chris Jackson or either SCEE
> bods (Paul and Iain) anywhere...
Paul and I both went to the Cryo stand at 2, but didn't spot you lot. You
were obviously too well disguised.
Iain
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Dc Good Tings <divin...@easynet.co.uk> wrote in article
<37d27766...@news.easynet.co.uk>...
> On 6 Sep 1999 08:35:09 GMT, "niaz khan" <niaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >My ECTS visit (SUNDAY ONLY)
> >Went on monday
was it busy or quiet, I may do Monday next year instead of Sunday !!
>
> >Nintendo:-
> >Impressed by the following games
> Donkey kong 64
> Ready to rumble looked ggood on everything but the palystation even
> midway i think were embaressed by this as i had to ask if this is what
> it going to look like to one of the midway staff available
just show's to go the old technology of the psx I think, time to move on.
> >
> >Playstation:-
> >Once again nothing outstanding apart from resident evil 3 which i
thought looked really good graphic wise and played well
> >Prince nassem boxing looked good played a bit suspicous though
> >Dreamcast:-
> >The best game by far had to be ready to rumble this could definetly sell
a good few
> dreamcast alone just on this title
> >
> >Women & Freebies:
> >Now this had to be a close draw because there were only 2 stands that
> had any decent women and they where MCV and the girls on the rave e
> jay stand but i think by a gstring the winners had to be the rave e
> jay dancers
> while on the subject did any 1 see the guy dancing on the psx dance
> mat the poor fellow was dancing , jumping for over 1 hour straight and
> he was sweating buckets
> i said to him you have to do a lot to get a t- shirt off this stand !
> >Summary:-
> >Every one put in a good show but id have to hand it to midway brilliant
showing of some exellent games
> Question why where edios hidden away in aroom guarded by some big
> bouncers ? and isnt dave perry tall sorry 4 nudge u in the back !
Eidos what a bunch of arseholes could not see any of there games on Sunday
!!
> Giveaways what giveaways see seperate post on this
> lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
> the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
> pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
> .
> >
> >Award Time.
> >
> >Best PSX Game: Res Evil 3
Did not see this where was this?
> >Best N64 Game: Rayman 2 / Donkey kong 64
Rayman was good graphically & DK looked good but then 95% of N64 games
where using the Ram Cart.
> >Best Dreamcast Game: Ready to Rumble (by far )
Followed closely by House of the Dead.
> >Best Stand: Rave E Jay / Midway
> >Best Women: Rave E Jay ( Night mares about sporty )
> >Best Freebie: Dreamcast (joke) Sony Demo Cd (tony hawks )
What annoys me from the show is that you get nothing from Nintendo at all
tight arses !!
> >
> >Until Next Year.
> >
> >--
> Dc Good Stuff
> Next year we demand more freebies
Yer Right on Start off with a free psx2/nintendo dolphin/ & some DC demo's
!!
> >
> >
>
>
niaz khan
audio cd on a retail pass !!
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John Maynard <base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> wrote in article
<37d43c49...@news.dircon.co.uk>...
> On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:23:02 GMT, divin...@easynet.co.uk (Dc Good
> Tings) wrote:
>
> >
> >lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
> >the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
> >pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
>
niaz khan
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Julie Brandon <jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<slrn7t7hbd...@merp.demon.co.uk>...
> On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:56:27 +0100, Jose Cardoso did spake:
> >> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
> >> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
> >
> >So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
> >Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>
> One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
> I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
> completely ugly!
Why compare yourself to some plastics Barbie Doll's Rise Above it Girl !!
>
> Might be a giggle one year, perhaps next year, see how it goes.
> Could stay at my folks, and pop in via train.
>
> Where are they held?
It is held at Olympia, I am not quite sure how to get in by train, I drive
up. I am sure someone else in the group could let you know how to get to
Olympia by train, ask Jose he might know !!
niaz khan
Scan them on !!!!!
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Asif Johar <ajo...@hotmail.com> wrote in article
<37d810c5...@news.clara.net>...
> On 6 Sep 1999 10:37:45 GMT, "niaz khan" <niaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Juicy Babes I thought there where loads the MCV Girls/Codemasters/
> >Acclaim are memories. I think next year I am will take a camera for some
> >snaps !!. Watch out for my scan image of a babe coming soon !!
>
> Heh, I got about 10 photos with the girls from most of the stands.
> Sad, I know, but there weren't that many good games to play, so I had
> to do something :)
>
> Asif
>
Boggis
base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk (John Maynard) wrote:
>
>My press pass got me a double album and demo PSX CD, nice,
and three
>press cds in pink,white and orange cases. Oh, and a big
magazine.
I got the 3 press CD's, a big velcro-ed book with the
forthcoming titles and a nice shoulder bag. Unfortunately
the press CD's are PC discs, so I haven't looked at them
yet. I wanted a Mental Wealth T-shirt but they'd run out.
Cheers,
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Jim M
>The other Day }news{@brit-cit.demon.co.uk (Jim M) wrote:
>
>
>>Sod all really. Sat and played G-Police 2 for about 30 minutes, and
>>some Sony bints came round. Threw a PSX badge at me (cheers) and a
>>PSX bag at Derek (eh ?? what ??? wos-that-all-about-them ??). So it
>>looks like you got more, sitting and playing the games, and not
>>hanging around for freebies :-)
>>
>That's what they did today (monday). I asked one of the bints and she
>kindly informed me of the way it worked (freebies for those playing) and
>also she followed me round till I found a seat and gave me a bag (had
>one already) then she found us again and handed over a mug and a key
>ring
Nice one Paul
>to split between me and Jimbo.
"Earlier on today, at the ECTS show, a violent fight broke out between
two of the punters. Chairs, benches and monitors were hurled around
over what looked like a petty arguement over a Sony Playstation Mug.
There were some walking wounded and the St. Johns ambulance team were
quck on the scene." :-)
Laters,
Jim M
--
@ Derbyshire
"The Rebels are here Sir.
I don't know what they want, but they're carrying a flag."
Jim M
>uk.games.video.playstation listened in awe as Jim M stated:
>
>>Sod all really. Sat and played G-Police 2 for about 30 minutes, and
>>some Sony bints came round. Threw a PSX badge at me (cheers) and a
>>PSX bag at Derek (eh ?? what ??? wos-that-all-about-them ??). So it
>>looks like you got more, sitting and playing the games, and not
>>hanging around for freebies :-)
>
>Great, wasn't it? The girl asked me if I wanted a badge, I said no
>so she said "Have a bag instead" and threw me the PSX bag.
>I wasn't complaining. :)
>
>You were too busy on G-Police 2 at the time.
I was yes. First thing I know was a PSX badge bouncing off my
shoulder :-) Bloody games...
Ta ra,
Jim M
>Women & Freebies:
>
>The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
>huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
As Derek already stated, please don't post them here.
a) Its not a binary group
b) Its not a porn group
Post them else-where (or on a web-page) and let us know afterwards,
please :-)
Laters,
>Until Next Year.
Aye,
niaz khan
ok will not post it then !!
Niaz
Derek Jolly <jol...@xsagetetra.com> wrote in article
<8E3A50F84joll...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> uk.games.video.playstation listened in awe as niaz khan stated:
>
> <snip>
> >a photo with some Pokemon. The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
> >huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
> >
>
Paul Irvine
>
>Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> Chris Jones played the dying swan trick and failed the meet leaving me,
>> Jimbo, Graham and Derek to prop up the bar so to speak.
>
>Shame I missed this :(
Yep, would have been nice to spot a few other faces but we still had a
good old laugh and spotted a few celebs :) (Well almost real ones)
>I'll say. Sony were being a bit tight fisted too. Nice pens and bags but
>unless you were 7foot you didn't stand much chance of grabbing anything. I
>did walk away with a Mental Wealth CD but that was all. PS2 technical videos
>were impressive though.
Monday proved a better day for the freebies although we didn't see the
pens. Had already seen all the PS2 stuff a while back and it was
exactly the same movies :(
>
>And then there was the heat. My God it was bad this year. Air conditioning
>went as far as two open doors.
I thought it was better than last years 'roaster', mind you, any time
you needed to cool down all you had to do was look at the girl in the
PSX advert on the monitors as you walked in...
I bet Graham thought she was lovely :)
>> Roll on Monday and a soothing arse free day...
>
>I had one major complaint about ECTS this year. Why can't any of the
>exhibitors hook up their displays properly? You'd think with all the decent
>Plasma screens, LCD panels, projectors and 32"+ TV's that someone would know
>how to connect a SCART cable!
Ha ha...They should have got some Dixon's staff on that job :)
Paul Irvine
>Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37d52537...@news.freeserve.net...
>>
>> Btw, were you hiding James? Didn't see you, Chris Jackson or either SCEE
>> bods (Paul and Iain) anywhere...
>>
>Oh, I was in bed. The bus left Gremlin at 6am, for crying out loud! On a
>Sunday!
>
>Maybe I'll be bothered to go next year...
>
Tbh, I think you did the right thing on the Sunday :)
Julie Brandon
>> Where are they held?
>It is held at Olympia, I am not quite sure how to get in by train, I drive
>up. I am sure someone else in the group could let you know how to get to
>Olympia by train, ask Jose he might know !!
If it's Olympia, then that's no probs.
Paul Irvine
>Paul Irvine wrote:
>>That's what they did today (monday). I asked one of the bints and she
>>kindly informed me of the way it worked (freebies for those playing) and
>>also she followed me round till I found a seat and gave me a bag (had
>>one already) then she found us again and handed over a mug and a key
>>ring
>
>Nice one Paul
Certainly a better idea by the Sony stand, actually rewarding the folk
for looking at the games rather than the cattle who just sat around the
desks every hour!
>
>>to split between me and Jimbo.
>
>"Earlier on today, at the ECTS show, a violent fight broke out between
>two of the punters. Chairs, benches and monitors were hurled around
>over what looked like a petty arguement over a Sony Playstation Mug.
>There were some walking wounded and the St. Johns ambulance team were
>quck on the scene." :-)
LOL...
Twas decided by a CTR 2 player game, winner got the mug..
Very civil and all that :)
Paul Irvine
>
>Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37d52537...@news.freeserve.net...
>>
>> Btw, were you hiding James? Didn't see you, Chris Jackson or either SCEE
>> bods (Paul and Iain) anywhere...
>
>Paul and I both went to the Cryo stand at 2, but didn't spot you lot. You
>were obviously too well disguised.
>
>Iain
You were obviously looking for the ugly mob, not realising we were
lovely normal looking folk :)
We on the other hand were looking for intelligent looking, clean cut
programmer types but you guys must have fitted in with the Cryo staff to
well :)
Seriously tho, its a shame we missed you guys, would have been nice to
say a civil hello to you. Maybe next year....
Paul Donovan
>
> Certainly a better idea by the Sony stand, actually rewarding the folk
> for looking at the games rather than the cattle who just sat around the
> desks every hour!
Did you see the scramble to get spare Sony party tickets at about 5:30
yesterday? That was comical and slightly scary at the same time. There
were so many people crowding the desk behind the video wall that one of the
people at the desk had to stand on it and ask everyone to take two steps
back - the desk was getting pushed back towards them. One Sony guy took a
bunch of tickets and moved away from the desk to give them out, and ended up
losing his rag with the crowd, calling them a 'bunch of animals'.
All that fuss over Faithless, free beer, vodka and food, shared with 4500
other people.
Fave games for me were Toy Story 2, Super Smash Bros and Gauntlet Legends.
Hang on, that's two N64 games and one PlayStation game.... that can't be
right? To be honest, I'd played or seen most of the PS games before.
Overall, there wasn't really much of interest at the show, quite
disappointing. I wanted to play some more of 40 Winks this time, but every
time I saw it it had a horrific bug where all the textures had turned black.
So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
Derek Jolly
>So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
Yep. Graham spotted it first when we were there.
niaz khan
some more snaps from anyone here.
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Jim M <}news{@brit-cit.demon.co.uk> wrote in article
<37d7e675...@news.demon.co.uk>...
> niaz khan wrote:
>
> >Women & Freebies:
> >
> >The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
> >huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
>
John Maynard
>Pocketstation is a no release outside of Europe !! & I managed to get a
>audio cd on a retail pass !!
Supply problems, the PR girl from Sony told me today. Basically they
can't mee the Jap demand for them so they've canned the release
anywhere else until it slows down.
On the bright side, asking this question gave me then the opportunity
to ask her to get me one of those nice shoulder bags, but not the
really nice Wip3out ones...
Paul Irvine
>
>Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37daf151...@news.freeserve.net...
>>
>> Certainly a better idea by the Sony stand, actually rewarding the folk
>> for looking at the games rather than the cattle who just sat around the
>> desks every hour!
>
>Did you see the scramble to get spare Sony party tickets at about 5:30
>yesterday? That was comical and slightly scary at the same time. There
>were so many people crowding the desk behind the video wall that one of the
>people at the desk had to stand on it and ask everyone to take two steps
>back - the desk was getting pushed back towards them. One Sony guy took a
>bunch of tickets and moved away from the desk to give them out, and ended up
>losing his rag with the crowd, calling them a 'bunch of animals'.
Myself and Jimbo left about 4pm as it was starting to slow down in
there. Although I like my freebies i'm not really into the mass 'bundle'
to get them, it got rather silly after a while and you only had to look
at the manic faces of the 'cattle' around the give away stands.
Re the tickets, I thought they had learnt their lesson with the freebie
crowd, seems not!
I spoke to a guy local to me who went all three days *purely* to get
goodies, he was rushing back on the tuesday to try and get a missing
colour key fob from the Sony stand. He already got 5 bags etc etc etc
but this keychain thing was like the end of the world to him...
Its sad, he is about my age as well plus he could hardly tell you what
any of the games were about..Bloomin sad...
>
>All that fuss over Faithless, free beer, vodka and food, shared with 4500
>other people.
Thanks but no thanks :)
>
>Fave games for me were Toy Story 2, Super Smash Bros and Gauntlet Legends.
>Hang on, that's two N64 games and one PlayStation game.... that can't be
>right? To be honest, I'd played or seen most of the PS games before.
>Overall, there wasn't really much of interest at the show, quite
>disappointing. I wanted to play some more of 40 Winks this time, but every
>time I saw it it had a horrific bug where all the textures had turned black.
I liked Space shooter on the PSX, Pac Man looked real nice but everyone
seemed to be playing follow the leader in game styles...
Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
to :)
>
>So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
>
Sorry Paul...missed it..any good? ;-)
Andrew Thomason
>>>Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
>>In fact, I PREFER games with borders.
>
>Why?...The borders serve in most cases to show that it's a shite
>conversion that's going to slow down at some point and certainly
isn't
>anywhere near as good as th NTSC version speed wise.
After putting up with 14" portables for the last 15 yrs or so, I like
my games BIG screen. I find that unless I have had experience of the
NTSC version, the slowdown isn't really noticable enough in the PAL
version to spoil the game. (The exception of course being beat'm ups).
Full speed would be nice, but I'm happy to trade this off in most
cases for a bigger game screen.
>How it looks on screen ie fitting on the screen is the last thing you
>should worry about in games.
I wouldn't say I worry about it, but like I said, if I can play with a
bigger picture, in proportion, on my wide screen, on a game that would
otherwise have borders on a square telly, then that's great.
>>Even Brookside has borders these days. Have a look if you don't
believe me.
>
>Yes it is, but for a different reason, Brookie is done that way for
>widescreen viewing. C4 show most programs is widescreen or as near
as..
>
>Saves the task of doing any Pan and scan crap for the TV viewers..
Brookie has borders which are removed when viewed on a wide TV. This
enhances viewing pleasure for those with wide screens, but is a minor
annoyance to 4:3 tv owners, because they're stuck with the borders.
Some PAL conversions have borders which are removed when viewed on a
wide TV. This enhances gaming pleasure for those with wide screens,
but is a minor annoyance to 4:3 tv owners, because they're stuck with
the borders.
Same thing innit?
I prefer t.v. programmes in widescreen, same with my PlayStation.
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Chris Jones
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>Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
>quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
>to :)
Heh, I thought that was it too - it's actually "Stinky & Beaver". Not
much better though :)
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Jimbo
Irvine) wrote:
>The other Day jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:56:27 +0100, Jose Cardoso did spake:
>>>> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
>>>> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
>>>
>>>So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
>>>Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>>
>>One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
>>I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
>>completely ugly!
>
>Nah, don't be silly...Lots of shapes, sizes and features there.
>Everyone too busy playing or looking at what's on offer to care what
>others look like..
Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
:-)
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the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the
Tannhauser Gate. All those moments will be lost, in time, like tears
in the rain. Time to die."
Jimbo
Tings) wrote:
>On 6 Sep 1999 08:35:09 GMT, "niaz khan" <niaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>My ECTS visit (SUNDAY ONLY)
>>Went on monday
>
>>Nintendo:-
>>Impressed by the following games
>Donkey kong 64
>Ready to rumble looked ggood on everything but the palystation even
>midway i think were embaressed by this as i had to ask if this is what
>it going to look like to one of the midway staff available
>>
>>Playstation:-
>>Once again nothing outstanding apart from resident evil 3 which i thought looked really good graphic wise and played well
>>Prince nassem boxing looked good played a bit suspicous though
>>Dreamcast:-
>>The best game by far had to be ready to rumble this could definetly sell a good few
>dreamcast alone just on this title
>>
>>Women & Freebies:
>>Now this had to be a close draw because there were only 2 stands that
>had any decent women and they where MCV and the girls on the rave e
>jay stand but i think by a gstring the winners had to be the rave e
>jay dancers
>while on the subject did any 1 see the guy dancing on the psx dance
>mat the poor fellow was dancing , jumping for over 1 hour straight and
>he was sweating buckets
>i said to him you have to do a lot to get a t- shirt off this stand !
>>Summary:-
>>Every one put in a good show but id have to hand it to midway brilliant showing of some exellent games
>Question why where edios hidden away in aroom guarded by some big
>bouncers ? and isnt dave perry tall sorry 4 nudge u in the back !
>Giveaways what giveaways see seperate post on this
>lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
>the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
>pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
>.
>>
>>Award Time.
>>
>>Best PSX Game: Res Evil 3
>>Best N64 Game: Rayman 2 / Donkey kong 64
>>Best Dreamcast Game: Ready to Rumble (by far )
>>Best Stand: Rave E Jay / Midway
>>Best Women: Rave E Jay ( Night mares about sporty )
>>Best Freebie: Dreamcast (joke) Sony Demo Cd (tony hawks )
>>
>>Until Next Year.
>>
>>--
>Dc Good Stuff
>Next year we demand more freebies
Try looking for a keyboard with comma's and full-stops for starters.
Jimbo
wrote:
>uk.games.video.playstation listened in awe as niaz khan stated:
>
><snip>
>>a photo with some Pokemon. The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
>>huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
>>
>
>Whoa there hoss! No binaries here please.
A Bonanza fan Derek??
Jimbo
>All that fuss over Faithless, free beer, vodka and food, shared with 4500
>other people.
I think I would of indulged in some Fisticuffs for Faithless and the
free beer. :-)
Jimbo
>
>Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
>quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
>to :)
Yeah funny that..........someone had obviously been in earshot of me
calling the wife by her Pet name. :-)
Rich Asplin
news:7r3m6i$7om$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> After putting up with 14" portables for the last 15 yrs or so, I like
> my games BIG screen. I find that unless I have had experience of the
> NTSC version, the slowdown isn't really noticable enough in the PAL
> version to spoil the game. (The exception of course being beat'm ups).
> Full speed would be nice, but I'm happy to trade this off in most
> cases for a bigger game screen.
Slowdown is noticeable in EVERY game, man. I was playing Super Mario Bros.
on my NES this afternoon... It's so much frustratingly slower compared to
the game you can play through an emulator or Super Mario Deluxe on GameBoy
Colour(sic). It's also the same with Metal Gear's PAL release...
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Paul Irvine
wrote:
>Paul Irvine wrote in message <37d440cb...@news.freeserve.net>...
>
>>>>Not nice to see EVERY DC game I saw was very bordered!!!
>
>>>In fact, I PREFER games with borders.
>>
>>Why?...The borders serve in most cases to show that it's a shite
>>conversion that's going to slow down at some point and certainly
>isn't anywhere near as good as th NTSC version speed wise.
>
>
>After putting up with 14" portables for the last 15 yrs or so, I like
>my games BIG screen. I find that unless I have had experience of the
>NTSC version, the slowdown isn't really noticable enough in the PAL
>version to spoil the game. (The exception of course being beat'm ups).
>Full speed would be nice, but I'm happy to trade this off in most
>cases for a bigger game screen.
But I am confused now...Border = Smaller screen...
>
>>How it looks on screen ie fitting on the screen is the last thing you
>>should worry about in games.
>
>I wouldn't say I worry about it, but like I said, if I can play with a
>bigger picture, in proportion, on my wide screen, on a game that would
>otherwise have borders on a square telly, then that's great.
And more confused as this says you don't really like borders in a way.
There's not many Pal games that are border less. :)
>Brookie has borders which are removed when viewed on a wide TV. This
>enhances viewing pleasure for those with wide screens, but is a minor
>annoyance to 4:3 tv owners, because they're stuck with the borders.
Yes, its an anamorphic(sp) picture..it stretches to correctly fit the
16:9
>
>Some PAL conversions have borders which are removed when viewed on a
>wide TV. This enhances gaming pleasure for those with wide screens,
>but is a minor annoyance to 4:3 tv owners, because they're stuck with
>the borders.
>
>Same thing innit?
>
Ish....
If a PAL release plays without borders on a WS TV then its most likely
being 'zoomed', ie the picture is being made to fit the screen as a
whole picture BUT unlike anamorphic DVD films the picture is not
correctly viewed, DVD's that are anamorphic do not have quality loss
when zoomed to fit.
Can't answer 100% as I don't have a WS TV.. :(
Shall await the people in the know to answer this 100%
Paul Irvine
>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:18:57 GMT, mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk (Paul
>Irvine) wrote:
>
>>Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
>>quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
>>to :)
>
>Heh, I thought that was it too - it's actually "Stinky & Beaver". Not
>much better though :)
You kidding, that little '&' could almost make it a Disney title :)
Paul Irvine
>On Mon, 06 Sep 1999 20:46:38 GMT, mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk (Paul
>Irvine) wrote:
>>Nah, don't be silly...Lots of shapes, sizes and features there.
>>Everyone too busy playing or looking at what's on offer to care what
>>others look like..
>
>Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
>:-)
No, but I do clearly remember you telling *me* I could...
Just because you get Ebola and lose some weight you think its clever..
Paul Irvine
>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:48:14 GMT, jol...@xsagetetra.com (Derek Jolly)
>wrote:
>
>>uk.games.video.playstation listened in awe as niaz khan stated:
>>
>><snip>
>>>a photo with some Pokemon. The best a photo with a gorgeous blonde with
>>>huge tit's I will scan & post to newsgroup.
>>>
>>
>>Whoa there hoss! No binaries here please.
>
>A Bonanza fan Derek??
>
He *was* Hoss!!!
Rich Asplin
news:37d600d1...@news.easynet.co.uk...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:37:36 GMT, cors...@btinternet.com (Jimbo)
> wrote:
>
> Sorry jim i did not know you were so touchy.
Geez, DC good tings, don't be so "heavy", man. Jimbo put a big smiley :-)
afterwards meaning it was just light-hearted banter, not "heavy" stuff. :)
Julie Brandon
>Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
>:-)
pokemon? wassit?
If you're gonna give me stick, at least let me in on the joke! *8-X
Dc Good Tings
Derek Jolly
<snip>
>Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
>quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
>to :)
It was Stinky & Beaver wasn't it? (although the ampersand looked very
much like an afterthought) :)
niaz khan
--
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John Maynard <base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> wrote in article
<37d54a79...@news.dircon.co.uk>...
> On 7 Sep 1999 08:35:01 GMT, "niaz khan" <niaz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Pocketstation is a no release outside of Europe !! & I managed to get a
> >audio cd on a retail pass !!
>
> Supply problems, the PR girl from Sony told me today. Basically they
> can't mee the Jap demand for them so they've canned the release
> anywhere else until it slows down.
Supply Problems , yer more like it did not take off & they decided to leave
it for the psx2.
Siegfried II
>
>pokemon? wassit?
>
>If you're gonna give me stick, at least let me in on the joke! *8-X
>
Not heard of Pokémon ? Nah...I can't believe that... ^-^
S.
Andrew Thomason
Paul Irvine wrote in message <37d576c...@news.freeserve.net>...
>But I am confused now...Border = Smaller screen...
Indeed, borders=smaller on a 4:3 display, but on widescreen tv, press
the 16:9 button and as if by magic the borders disappear and the
picture fills the screen.
>>I wouldn't say I worry about it, but like I said, if I can play with
a
>>bigger picture, in proportion, on my wide screen, on a game that
would
>>otherwise have borders on a square telly, then that's great.
>And more confused as this says you don't really like borders in a
way.
>There's not many Pal games that are border less. :)
Maybe I need to clarify this. I said I prefer games with borders, but
I don't like the borders themselves. A bordered game will not have
borders in a wide mode on my tv, but will fill the screen vertically.
To get the same screen area with a non bordered game would mean that I
lose a strip of picture top and bottom. So a non bordered game in 4:3
will play physically narrower than a bordered game in 14:9 or 16:9.
Maybe you need to see this to appreciate what I am saying.
>If a PAL release plays without borders on a WS TV then its most
likely
>being 'zoomed', ie the picture is being made to fit the screen as a
>whole picture BUT unlike anamorphic DVD films the picture is not
>correctly viewed, DVD's that are anamorphic do not have quality loss
>when zoomed to fit.
>
>Can't answer 100% as I don't have a WS TV.. :(
Anamorphic..... Bloody hell, no need to show off. I think it does
'zoom' in to the non-bordered area, rather than anamorphicise it. (I
made that word up). So there is a quality loss, esp. on 16:9, which
shows itself in the form of horizontal blank lines, don't know the
technical term for them. Generally 14:9 does the trick and the lines
are not apparent enough to spoil the appearance of the game.
>Shall await the people in the know to answer this 100%
Me too.
Graham Goring
<pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
>So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
I did, looking lovely. Is it a lot freer this time? Not so on-rails?
Graham Goring
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Graham Goring
<cors...@btinternet.com> writes
>
>>
>>Didn't see anything 'new and exciting' but most things were of good
>>quality. Want to find out who thought of 'Stinky Beaver' as a game name
>>to :)
>
>calling the wife by her Pet name. :-)
LOL! Just when I think you can't disgust me any more...
Graham Goring
<base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> writes
>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:23:02 GMT, divin...@easynet.co.uk (Dc Good
>Tings) wrote:
>
>>
>>lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
>>the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
>>pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
>
>press cds in pink,white and orange cases. Oh, and a big magazine.
Ooh! What was on the press CDs?
Graham Goring
<jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Mon, 6 Sep 1999 10:56:27 +0100, Jose Cardoso did spake:
>>> Did you also notice how there were less juicy babes this year?. Well I
>>> suppose the Acclaim and Codemasters dancers made up for it :)
>>
>>So you missed the two girls in nothing more than panties and body paint?
>>Very nice they were too. Especially the girl in silver :)
>
>One thing that's put me off of the idea of going to the ECTS is that
>I'm convinced that I'll come out feeling totally self-concious and
>completely ugly!
Well, you'd never feel as self-conscious as the poor sods in the stupid
promotional costumes. :)
Graham Goring
<jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk> writes
>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:34:56 GMT, Jimbo did spake:
>>Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
>>:-)
>
>
>If you're gonna give me stick, at least let me in on the joke! *8-X
Pokemon = Pocket Monster. Japanese craze for the Gameboy and the N64.
Graham Goring
llos.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>I thought it was better than last years 'roaster', mind you, any time
>you needed to cool down all you had to do was look at the girl in the
>PSX advert on the monitors as you walked in...
>
>I bet Graham thought she was lovely :)
I thought she had a promotional hot-air balloon instead of a head.
Paul Donovan
Graham Goring <gra...@dukeVOMITtastrophy.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:PyFirbAt...@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk...
> In article <7r3358$qo...@camsg001.camb.scee.sony.co.uk>, Paul Donovan
> <pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
> >So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
>
> I did, looking lovely. Is it a lot freer this time? Not so on-rails?
>
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Paul Irvine
>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:34:56 GMT, Jimbo did spake:
>>Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
>>:-)
>
>pokemon? wassit?
>
>If you're gonna give me stick, at least let me in on the joke! *8-X
They had 2 people walking around in great big round outfits that were
supposed to be POKEMON characters from the Nintendo stand. Jimbo
thought they were so nice he had his photo taken with them twice..
He then spent every five mins saying how good the photo's were..
I can only presume he was bored.......
Simon Barker
>In article <37d43c49...@news.dircon.co.uk>, John Maynard
><base...@no-spam-dircon.co.uk> writes
>>On Sun, 05 Sep 1999 14:23:02 GMT, divin...@easynet.co.uk (Dc Good
>>Tings) wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>lastlty did u press guys get extras from the sony sauna counter facing
>>>the back of the room . i think ythey where giving away something in a
>>>pink box cd sized and some lucky fella was even given a rucksack FREE
>>
>>My press pass got me a double album and demo PSX CD, nice, and three
>>press cds in pink,white and orange cases. Oh, and a big magazine.
>
>Ooh! What was on the press CDs?
Stuff about Sony, their games etc some nice artwork of the games and even
pictures of the cases for the games (PSX, controllers, bags etc), nothing
exciting but useful if you want to write up on them (or something).
Simon Barker
>
>Paul Irvine wrote in message <37d576c...@news.freeserve.net>...
>
>>But I am confused now...Border = Smaller screen...
>
>Indeed, borders=smaller on a 4:3 display, but on widescreen tv, press
>the 16:9 button and as if by magic the borders disappear and the
>picture fills the screen.
That's not a proper 16:9 then, it should display the borders and all unless
you're talking about a zoom mode which then probably cuts off some of the image
or distorts it even if only very slightly.
>>>I wouldn't say I worry about it, but like I said, if I can play with
>a
>>>bigger picture, in proportion, on my wide screen, on a game that
>would
>>>otherwise have borders on a square telly, then that's great.
>
>>And more confused as this says you don't really like borders in a
>way.
>>There's not many Pal games that are border less. :)
>
>Maybe I need to clarify this. I said I prefer games with borders, but
>I don't like the borders themselves. A bordered game will not have
>borders in a wide mode on my tv, but will fill the screen vertically.
>To get the same screen area with a non bordered game would mean that I
>lose a strip of picture top and bottom. So a non bordered game in 4:3
>will play physically narrower than a bordered game in 14:9 or 16:9.
>Maybe you need to see this to appreciate what I am saying.
You're looking at this the wrong way, it's not too far off from putting
curtains on the sides or top to hide borders :] It's proper 4:3 AND anamorphic
16:9, don't accept anything less.
>>If a PAL release plays without borders on a WS TV then its most
>likely
>>being 'zoomed', ie the picture is being made to fit the screen as a
>>whole picture BUT unlike anamorphic DVD films the picture is not
>>correctly viewed, DVD's that are anamorphic do not have quality loss
>>when zoomed to fit.
>>
>>Can't answer 100% as I don't have a WS TV.. :(
>
>Anamorphic..... Bloody hell, no need to show off. I think it does
>'zoom' in to the non-bordered area, rather than anamorphicise it. (I
>made that word up). So there is a quality loss, esp. on 16:9, which
>shows itself in the form of horizontal blank lines, don't know the
>technical term for them. Generally 14:9 does the trick and the lines
>are not apparent enough to spoil the appearance of the game.
If it was an anamorphic mode the image would appear very 'squished', the
problem with zooming on a PSX game is it has a habit of showing up all the
problems but it'd be useful if you're quite a distance from the TV. If the
game has a 16:9 anamorphic mode Widescreen owners get a great image on their
sets and it has a 4:3 mode normal TVs get a proper image, of course seeing as
most companies can't be bothered to do away with borders what hope is there for
both modes in most games anytime soon?
Simon Barker
That's Meowth and Pikachu dammit.
Paul Irvine
Grahams clumsy way of saying 'restricted area' rather than Pandemoneum
style play..
Julie Brandon
>The other Day jbn...@merp.demon.co.uk (Julie Brandon) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 19:34:56 GMT, Jimbo did spake:
>>>Thought you said Julie could get a job in one of the POKEMON outfits??
>>>:-)
>>
>>pokemon? wassit?
>>
>>If you're gonna give me stick, at least let me in on the joke! *8-X
>
>They had 2 people walking around in great big round outfits that were
>supposed to be POKEMON characters from the Nintendo stand. Jimbo
>thought they were so nice he had his photo taken with them twice..
>
>He then spent every five mins saying how good the photo's were..
>
>I can only presume he was bored.......
*8-)
Paul Irvine
>That's Meowth and Pikachu dammit.
That's OK, my bikes out side...
<If you are going to spout silly words then so will I :) >
Jim M
>The other Day "Paul Donovan" <pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>Graham Goring <gra...@dukeVOMITtastrophy.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> Paul Donovan <pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
>>> >So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
>>>
>>> I did, looking lovely. Is it a lot freer this time? Not so on-rails?
>>>
>>Not sure what you mean by 'on-rails'. Which levels did you have in mind?
>
>Grahams clumsy way of saying 'restricted area' rather than Pandemoneum
>style play..
So he wasn't on about a train or mining-cart level then ? :-)
Jim M
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>Paul Irvine <mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:37daf151...@news.freeserve.net...
>>
>> Certainly a better idea by the Sony stand, actually rewarding the folk
>> for looking at the games rather than the cattle who just sat around the
>> desks every hour!
>
>Did you see the scramble to get spare Sony party tickets at about 5:30
>yesterday? That was comical and slightly scary at the same time. There
>were so many people crowding the desk behind the video wall that one of the
>people at the desk had to stand on it and ask everyone to take two steps
>back - the desk was getting pushed back towards them. One Sony guy took a
>bunch of tickets and moved away from the desk to give them out, and ended up
>losing his rag with the crowd, calling them a 'bunch of animals'.
You should get the staff on training courses, like sending them to
Donnington Rock Festival and telling them to get to the front :-)
>Fave games for me were Toy Story 2, Super Smash Bros and Gauntlet Legends.
Missed the Gauntlet Legends.
>Hang on, that's two N64 games and one PlayStation game.... that can't be
>right? To be honest, I'd played or seen most of the PS games before.
>Overall, there wasn't really much of interest at the show, quite
>disappointing.
I think "Scantly-Clad Women" work better than "The Bug-Eyed Monster".
Bit disturbing those piccies as you walk into the Sony area :-) I
can't believe you've found someone so deformed, or is this showing off
the real-time rendering power of the PSX2 ? :-)
>So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
Saw a bit of it. Any idea when we will be getting a sniff of it ?
Also noticed a guy with a "Paradroid" T-Shirt. He was hanging around
WO3, and didn't have a badge showing. Was he part of your crew, and
is this a hint at a forth-coming re-make ? :-)
Paul Irvine
>An anamorphic source isn't simple the correct size for a widescreen tv, it's
>actually compressed but when sent to the TV it's stretched to fit and you gain
>added resolution compared to a normal TV image, zooming is just using the TV to
>zoom in or distort the image and you usually lose some of the sides or top or
>both. The downside to distorting the image is it's distorted, if you go into
>Dixons you'll see depending on the TV and how it's set up some faces appear
>fatter or thiner, if a widescreen TV is set to normal 4:3 you get black bars on
>the side. On the Sony WEGA I use it has a smart mode which is slight distortion
>and slight loss of the top and bottom to fit as much as possible on screen it
>works quite well with PAL games but if you use the zoom mode or even 14:9 it
>looks like crap on a PSX as the hardware is rather crappy (PSX not tv :]).
Yep, the DVD groups are livid if a release isn't anamorphic these days..
Since I don't have a WS tv I don't really mind but its fair to say that
they do :)
>
>The more games with an anamorphic video mode along with the normal the better!
Ha ha...next you will want no slow down :)
Wayne Roberts
Did anybody see the new game from the company who made the game
HUGO ??? Had a little snigger when I saw the name of it.
Called Stinky & Beaver, but a quick glimpse at the display made me
see other things !!! :))
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Graham Goring
<pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
>
>> In article <7r3358$qo...@camsg001.camb.scee.sony.co.uk>, Paul Donovan
>> <pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
>>
>>
>Not sure what you mean by 'on-rails'. Which levels did you have in mind?
Well, the levels in the original were predominantly composed of thin
strips of level joined at certain points.
Actually, I'm just being bloody picky.
Graham Goring
<mcl...@dellos.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>news:PyFirbAt...@duketastrophy.demon.co.uk...
>>> In article <7r3358$qo...@camsg001.camb.scee.sony.co.uk>, Paul Donovan
>>> <pa...@scee.sony.co.uk> writes
>>> >So who saw the MediEvil 2 video on the big screen?
>>>
>>> I did, looking lovely. Is it a lot freer this time? Not so on-rails?
>>>
>>Not sure what you mean by 'on-rails'. Which levels did you have in mind?
>
>style play..
Nope, I mean restrictive paths instead of completely open areas.
Gavin Jopson
<37dae177...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Paul Donovan wrote:
>
>>
>>Did you see the scramble to get spare Sony party tickets at about 5:30
>>yesterday? That was comical and slightly scary at the same time. There
>>were so many people crowding the desk behind the video wall that one of
the
>>people at the desk had to stand on it and ask everyone to take two steps
>>back - the desk was getting pushed back towards them. One Sony guy took a
>>bunch of tickets and moved away from the desk to give them out, and ended
up
>>losing his rag with the crowd, calling them a 'bunch of animals'.
>
>You should get the staff on training courses, like sending them to
>Donnington Rock Festival and telling them to get to the front :-)
>
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Paul Irvine
wrote:
>>>> I did, looking lovely. Is it a lot freer this time? Not so on-rails?
>>>>
>>>Not sure what you mean by 'on-rails'. Which levels did you have in mind?
>>
>>Grahams clumsy way of saying 'restricted area' rather than Pandemoneum
>>style play..
>
>Nope, I mean restrictive paths instead of completely open areas.
>
>Graham Goring
Path, area...whats the difference...
Graham Goring
llos.freeserve.co.uk> writes
Well, Paul (and I'm shocked that you could ask such a dumb question),
I'd like you to compare these two geographical features:
(1) A road. Typically about 10 meters across or so.
(2) A field. Much larger. Offers more possibilities for freedom of
movement.
Alternatively, you can compare Super Mario 64 and Crash Bandicoot. Nuff
said.
Chris Jones
Irvine) wrote:
>>Nope, I mean restrictive paths instead of completely open areas.
>>
>>Graham Goring
>
>Path, area...whats the difference...
How much fun have you ever had exploring a path?
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Paul Irvine
wrote:
>Well, Paul (and I'm shocked that you could ask such a dumb question),
>I'd like you to compare these two geographical features:
Well smuck features...Since when did Medievil have path sized playing
arena's?...Area's describes them correctly....
You can't have it both way's..
My reply was based on your pedantic reply, just because after you
stumbled out of the bar on sat via Old Compton St you ended up with an
'area' sized hole in your botty!