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AirRaid

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Jul 22, 2006, 3:51:57 PM7/22/06
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get a clue, Wii isnt about graphics.


Guest wrote:
> After seeing Madden on the Wii, no one will buy that crap. It looks like PS2. BS graphics. No bullshit control can help that.
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Guest

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Jul 26, 2006, 11:40:32 AM7/26/06
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"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> get a clue, Wii isnt about graphics.
>

I know, that's why I said it sucks. It is not even on the minds of gamers.


Stewart Smith

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Jul 26, 2006, 11:52:07 AM7/26/06
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Of course, that would explain why no one is buying the Nintendo DS.
After all, gamers wouldn't think of it because the graphics aren't as
good as the PSP. Nugget.

Stewart

Chris F

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Jul 26, 2006, 11:58:39 AM7/26/06
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yeah, and the DS is getting it's arse kicked by the PSP isn't it.

you really are a complete tool, aren't you, LL?
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Guest

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Jul 26, 2006, 3:16:49 PM7/26/06
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"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:40:32 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:1153597917.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>> get a clue, Wii isnt about graphics.
>>>
>>
>>I know, that's why I said it sucks. It is not even on the minds of
>>gamers.
>>
> yeah, and the DS is getting it's arse kicked by the PSP isn't it.
>
> you really are a complete tool, aren't you, LL?
> --

Newsflash - we are not talking about little kiddy portables.


Chris F

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Jul 26, 2006, 3:22:54 PM7/26/06
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neither was i, i was talking about the best and fastest selling
portable gaming machine on the planet.

Chris F

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Jul 26, 2006, 3:24:36 PM7/26/06
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:16:49 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:

perfect response for the question asked.

well done.

Mattinglyfan

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Jul 30, 2006, 11:56:57 AM7/30/06
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"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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Do some historical research, they both are.


Chris F

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Jul 30, 2006, 2:44:50 PM7/30/06
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 09:56:57 -0600, "Mattinglyfan"
<nos...@bigmommashouse.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
>news:67gfc2pa40anipm4e...@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:16:49 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
>>>news:984fc2tivjpnc47nh...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:40:32 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"AirRaid" <AirRa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1153597917.7...@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> get a clue, Wii isnt about graphics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I know, that's why I said it sucks. It is not even on the minds of
>>>>>gamers.
>>>>>
>>>> yeah, and the DS is getting it's arse kicked by the PSP isn't it.
>>>>
>>>> you really are a complete tool, aren't you, LL?
>>>> --
>>>
>>>Newsflash - we are not talking about little kiddy portables.
>>>
>> neither was i, i was talking about the best and fastest selling
>> portable gaming machine on the planet.
>
>
>Do some historical research, they both are.
>

the DS has sold 21million units since launch.

in fact, to quote Steve J from the uk handheld group who provided a
link to these statistics:

<quote>
"I'm not usually one to bothered too much by sales figures I was a
little
amazed by the sales figures for the Nintendo DS:

"In less than two years since its Nov. 21, 2004 launch, Nintendo has
sold
more than 21 million Nintendo DS(TM) systems worldwide. By comparison,
Apple(R) shipped one million of its ever- popular iPod(R) music
players in
its first 19 months. The rate of Nintendo DS units being sold equates
to
23 systems per minute -- that's nearly one every two seconds --
non-stop
since launch."

http://tinyurl.com/pechh

</quote>

those figures, if correct are frankly astonishing. i doubt the PSP has
sold that many units, either.

Guest

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Jul 30, 2006, 6:54:01 PM7/30/06
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"Mattinglyfan" <nos...@bigmommashouse.com> wrote in message
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When this Wii flops, kiddy portables will be all that is left of Nintendo.
Then we shall soon see a Mario game on a real next-gen system.


Michael J. Caboose

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Jul 30, 2006, 11:40:57 PM7/30/06
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You'll never see Mario on any system unless its owned by Nintendo!
Infact, you'll never see ANY Nintendo character on any system other
than a Nintendo system.

After your precious PS3 fails, you'll see why Sony isn't designed for
gaming. All they care about is money and nothing else. Why do you think
the PS3 costs $599usd and it took almost the entire life of the PS2 for
its price to drop?

Mattinglyfan

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Jul 31, 2006, 10:37:28 AM7/31/06
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"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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Why do you have to "doubt"? Put a little effort into it and you will see
that the PSP set sales records as well. I didn't say its sales topped the
DS, I said that they both broke records.


Guest

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Jul 31, 2006, 10:40:46 AM7/31/06
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"Michael J. Caboose" <armstro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> You'll never see Mario on any system unless its owned by Nintendo!
> Infact, you'll never see ANY Nintendo character on any system other
> than a Nintendo system.
>
> After your precious PS3 fails, you'll see why Sony isn't designed for
> gaming. All they care about is money and nothing else. Why do you think
> the PS3 costs $599usd and it took almost the entire life of the PS2 for
> its price to drop?

What company does not care about money? All Nintendo cares about is money.
That is why they keep bringing out the same OLD games and underpowered
systems - to make easy money.


Chris F

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Jul 31, 2006, 11:29:59 AM7/31/06
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:37:28 -0600, "Mattinglyfan"
<nos...@bigmommashouse.com> wrote:

i never said it didn't, i stated that the DS is the best and fastest
selling handheld console ever.

they can't both be. is the PSP selling 23 a minute, worldwide?

that's what i doubt.

Lister

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Jul 31, 2006, 1:22:41 PM7/31/06
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:40:46 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:


>What company does not care about money? All Nintendo cares about is money.
>That is why they keep bringing out the same OLD games and underpowered
>systems - to make easy money.
>


Yeah, and once they've been around for long enough, so will Sony

Chris F

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Jul 31, 2006, 2:07:19 PM7/31/06
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:22:41 +0100, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net>
wrote:

lol aye

cos there's nothing but pure originality on Ps2 and PSP, eh? ;)

Lister

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Jul 31, 2006, 3:14:57 PM7/31/06
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On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:07:19 +0100, Chris F
<ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:22:41 +0100, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:40:46 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What company does not care about money? All Nintendo cares about is money.
>>>That is why they keep bringing out the same OLD games and underpowered
>>>systems - to make easy money.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yeah, and once they've been around for long enough, so will Sony
>
>lol aye
>
>cos there's nothing but pure originality on Ps2 and PSP, eh? ;)


Indeed. I love shooting a troll down in flames :)

Michael J. Caboose

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Jul 31, 2006, 5:23:03 PM7/31/06
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Why does a console need to be the most powerful thing ever created? Its
not editing video or sound. It's not being used for business
applications like huge spreadsheets. Games are specifically designed
for the hardware to provide the best visuals with whatever the console
has under the hood.

Why is it, that a console which can display visuals that are considered
amazing using little power is considered underpowered? It does its job
of playing video games with amazing visuals perfectly. Do you consider
a 140hp car underpowered when all you do is use it to drive around the
city in? It does its job perfectly. It's overkill if you use a Ferrari
to simply go get groceries. And that is what the PS3 is. Overkill. The
XBox 360 is also overkill, but not to the extent that the PS3 is.

So, why is it that a console that plays videogames very well is
considered "underpowered" when something like the PS3 which could also,
by its shape, double as an electric grill not considered overkill?

Guest

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Jul 31, 2006, 8:12:04 PM7/31/06
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"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:22:41 +0100, Lister <fa...@SPAMclara.net>
> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:40:46 GMT, "Guest" <llc...@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>What company does not care about money? All Nintendo cares about is
>>>money.
>>>That is why they keep bringing out the same OLD games and underpowered
>>>systems - to make easy money.
>>>
>>
>>
>>Yeah, and once they've been around for long enough, so will Sony
>
> lol aye
>
> cos there's nothing but pure originality on Ps2 and PSP, eh? ;)
> --

More so than "Even Newer, Super Duper Mario Brothers!"


Guest

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Jul 31, 2006, 8:49:46 PM7/31/06
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"Michael J. Caboose" <armstro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Why does a console need to be the most powerful thing ever created?

It does not have to be, but there should be a very clear difference from the
last one.

Its
> not editing video or sound. It's not being used for business
> applications like huge spreadsheets. Games are specifically designed
> for the hardware to provide the best visuals with whatever the console
> has under the hood.

Well, technically, it is moving the HD. Not only that, but this is moving
into the future. One comapny chooses to live in it's past.

>
> Why is it, that a console which can display visuals that are considered
> amazing using little power is considered underpowered?

If they were the only ones with a system, it would be amazing. When you see
what else is out there, you really see amazing!

It does its job
> of playing video games with amazing visuals perfectly.

It does it's job of playing Nintendo's games. It DOES NOT do the job of
playing EA games(they are not the most gprahical company in the world...) or
anyone else's games. At least not like the 360 and PS3. Say what you will,
but those systems are the graphics that the weak link system must be judged
by.

Do you consider
> a 140hp car underpowered when all you do is use it to drive around the
> city in?

I did. Hitting hills were a problem. I knew it was underpowered, but it
was all that I could afford at the time. I have moved to the next level.
Hopefully after this I can finally get a V6.

It does its job perfectly.

On flat roads. Higher powered cars work better in the snow also as I see.

It's overkill if you use a Ferrari
> to simply go get groceries.

Or much of anything else. Some people might do that if you have it like
that.

And that is what the PS3 is. Overkill.

Only from a weak system's perspective. 5 years down the road which system
will look like overkill and which wil look like ancient times?

The
> XBox 360 is also overkill, but not to the extent that the PS3 is.

I guess your main point is the Blue Ray.

>
> So, why is it that a console that plays videogames very well is
> considered "underpowered" when something like the PS3 which could also,
> by its shape, double as an electric grill not considered overkill?

It might be overkill, but the Wii is not even a leap from the GC. The Wii
should make the GC look old, not just look like another GC with a BS
controller.

blue

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Aug 1, 2006, 5:41:14 AM8/1/06
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I wouldn't bother talking to Guest. He's proven himself in the past to
be a racist, sexist, homophobic prick who extends that bigotry all the
way through to videogames. He's only interested in games that duplicate
reality (God knows why we have enough of it already) and is always
banging on about EA games which just proves how little taste he actually
has.

Guest

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"blue" <ba...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I wouldn't bother talking to Guest. He's proven himself in the past to be a
>racist, sexist, homophobic prick who extends that bigotry all the way
>through to videogames. He's only interested in games that duplicate reality
>(God knows why we have enough of it already) and is always banging on about
>EA games which just proves how little taste he actually has.
>

I can't be racist. Who cares if someone is sexist? Is there really
anything wrong with being 'homophobic?' If that is the (made up) word that
you would like to use? You can call me that all day. I am not one to run
from labels some try to associate with so-called hate.


DBSnappa

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Aug 1, 2006, 1:25:05 PM8/1/06
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Also, a point that has to be remembered is the semantics of press
releases from Sony and Nintendo. Nintendo usually quote units sold and
their bank balance backs this up - Sony on the other hand tend to focus
on units 'shipped', not sold.

Michael J. Caboose

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Aug 1, 2006, 4:39:27 PM8/1/06
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I've rarely ever seen any bit of news from Sony stating units sold.
Even at E3 they kept toting about how many units they've shipped. If I
was in the crowed, I'da yelled out and asked how many they've sold.
Just to see what kinda response I'd get. Most likely "Sony doesn't deal
in absolutes"

And it seems somewhat odd, that Nintendo will post their losses and
gains and units sold where as Sony won't. Why is that?

Oh and "Guest" homophobic is a real word. Maybe you'd want to pick up a
dictionary sometime and look it up ok.

Chris F

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Aug 1, 2006, 5:40:40 PM8/1/06
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On 1 Aug 2006 13:39:27 -0700, "Michael J. Caboose"
<armstro...@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've rarely ever seen any bit of news from Sony stating units sold.
>Even at E3 they kept toting about how many units they've shipped. If I
>was in the crowed, I'da yelled out and asked how many they've sold.
>Just to see what kinda response I'd get. Most likely "Sony doesn't deal
>in absolutes"
>

probably because half the units they have shipped have been
replacement consoles either replaced under warranty, or bought by
consumers to replace PS2s that fucked up after the warranty had
expired. i know i'm on my 3rd one already. i know a couple of people
who have had 4.

>And it seems somewhat odd, that Nintendo will post their losses and
>gains and units sold where as Sony won't. Why is that?
>

because Sony's finances are going down the toilet quickly. they need
the the PS3 to be a huge hit to keep them afloat, apparently because
their other hardware divisions (TVs, consumer electronics, etc) are
underperforming badly.

wonder if it's because their stuff is usually
overpriced..................oooh, now there's a thought, eh Sony?

Guest

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Aug 2, 2006, 4:22:26 AM8/2/06
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"Michael J. Caboose" <armstro...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've rarely ever seen any bit of news from Sony stating units sold.
> Even at E3 they kept toting about how many units they've shipped. If I
> was in the crowed, I'da yelled out and asked how many they've sold.
> Just to see what kinda response I'd get. Most likely "Sony doesn't deal
> in absolutes"
>
> And it seems somewhat odd, that Nintendo will post their losses and
> gains and units sold where as Sony won't. Why is that?
>
> Oh and "Guest" homophobic is a real word. Maybe you'd want to pick up a
> dictionary sometime and look it up ok.
>

Bling bling became a phrase in the dictionary too. That was made up. In
fact, all words are made up. You and other gays use the word incorrectly.
It is supposed to mean a fear of gays, but you people use it assuming a
hatred of gays. Since I do not qualify for either, you cannot use that word
for me.


Mattinglyfan

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Aug 2, 2006, 3:09:20 PM8/2/06
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"Chris F" <ch...@asifimtellingyoulot.com> wrote in message
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Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about do you? Sony has posted
reported fairly substantial profits for the last two fiscal quarters in
spite of the R&D of the PS3. Where in the hell do you get your information?


[ste parker]

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Aug 2, 2006, 3:38:47 PM8/2/06
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Mattinglyfan wrote:
>
> Wow, you have no idea what you are talking about do you? Sony has posted
> reported fairly substantial profits for the last two fiscal quarters in
> spite of the R&D of the PS3. Where in the hell do you get your information?
>

It's easy to say someone else has no idea and then show no evidence to
back up your claims either. Note: I'm not necessarily saying you're
wrong, before you go off on one.

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[ste]

Chris F

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Aug 2, 2006, 3:27:27 PM8/2/06
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it has been widely reported all over the place that the playstation
division is what is keeping sony going, which is why they need the PS3
to be a hit to continue this.

i never said they weren't turning a profit, theyre bound to with the
PS2 being as popular as it is.

i never said the PS3 was causing their relative financial
difficulties, did i?

[ste parker]

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Aug 2, 2006, 5:22:59 PM8/2/06
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Chris F wrote:
>
> it has been widely reported all over the place that the playstation
> division is what is keeping sony going, which is why they need the PS3
> to be a hit to continue this.
<snip>

Recently (ie. the last two quarters) it's not the case. The PSP was a
shot in the arm on the gaming front, but other than that it's the TVs
and cameras/camcorders that are driving profit.

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/27/news/international/bc.tech.sony.reut/index.htm
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14336

Not sure why the Bravias are doing so well in the US, maybe it's
pricing, certainly there are better sets out there for the money in Europe.

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[ste]

Mattinglyfan

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"[ste parker]" <imag...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I actually looked on the Gamespot site where I originally saw the story but
I couldn't relocate it. I would have spent more time but in actuality, I
would have rather have seen proof to the contrary of what I was unable to
run down in 5 minutes to support what Chris was saying. I have nothing
against Chris at all, he just happened to repost a falsehood that most of
the MS/anti-Sony hating faction in these newsgroups keep regurgitating in an
effort to verbally sabotage the PS3 and Sony.

I know you aren't saying I am wrong because like many people, you probably
saw the same thing somewhere as well.


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