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Why won't my Dreamcast backup games play?? Pls. help!!

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peter I

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:26:23 AM3/24/03
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I just bought a Dreamcast system for the family and many of the
backups that I picked up recently from a pro dealer did not work for
some reason. I used a boot disc yet they still didn't work. I
exchanged the discs thinking they were faulty but even the
replacements didn't work. Could it be that I have an old version of
the bootdisc and need a newer one? Is it my system? Is there anyone
else that had this problem and what can I do to solve it? Pls. help,
this is too frustrating. THanks!

Chris F

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:35:01 AM3/24/03
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On 24 Mar 2003 06:26:23 -0800, ikosi...@ignmail.com (peter I)
coughed up:

go buy the originals.
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Da Wrecka

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Mar 24, 2003, 9:47:21 AM3/24/03
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All the problems and solutions that are likely to be encountered when playing
Dreamcast backups are documented here;

http://tinyurl.com/8t5

Please don't go here unless you're looking for information on Dreamcast backups.

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ZipZap

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Mar 24, 2003, 2:26:17 PM3/24/03
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> I just bought a Dreamcast system for the family and many of the
> backups that I picked up recently from a pro dealer

LOL........what's a "pro-dealer"?!?! how does one become a professional
pirate then?! :)

Vanne

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Mar 24, 2003, 4:28:38 PM3/24/03
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This is pretty stupid, Hes not asking for backups, nor is he asking for
links for backups, this is realy just a tech question...

yet you link him with some freaky PrOn site that ruined my morning, Thanks
and just know that you yourself are breaking the law posting filth as this
in NG's.

wish kiddies just went to bed instead of being gross.

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Dr Zoidberg

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Mar 24, 2003, 4:31:38 PM3/24/03
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Vanne wrote:
>
> yet you link him with some freaky PrOn site that ruined my morning,
> Thanks and just know that you yourself are breaking the law posting
> filth as this in NG's.
>
What a load of shite.
There is nothing illegal about the content , let alone posting a link to it
on a newsgroup.
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Dr Zoidberg

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Mar 24, 2003, 4:32:57 PM3/24/03
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ZipZap wrote:
>> I just bought a Dreamcast system for the family and many of the
>> backups that I picked up recently from a pro dealer
>
> LOL........what's a "pro-dealer"?!?! how does one become a
> professional pirate then?! :)
>
Buy a cheap PC and several CDRW drives , blanks by the thousand then flog
the copied films and games at a car boot sale claiming they are all as good
as original dvds etc.
Oh , and don't forget to continue signing on the dole.

Da Wrecka

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Mar 24, 2003, 8:35:19 PM3/24/03
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Vanne wrote:
> This is pretty stupid, Hes not asking for backups, nor is he asking
> for links for backups, this is realy just a tech question...
>
> yet you link him with some freaky PrOn site that ruined my morning,
> Thanks and just know that you yourself are breaking the law posting
> filth as this in NG's.

The link is perfectly legal. What this stupid wannabe pirate is trying to do is not.
Piracy is given short, sharp shrift in this newsgroup, and any fuck who comes in here
expecting help with using or creating "backups" - which are really pirates - deserves
everything they get.

And for your information, I'm 20.

Jack Jumpin

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Mar 24, 2003, 8:59:40 PM3/24/03
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Some games are self booting meaning you don't use the boot disk...
If you load the boot disk then put in a self booting game it won't work...
Just try the game on its own...

JJ


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Doogy Rev

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Mar 25, 2003, 4:24:21 AM3/25/03
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Nick Fisher wrote Living With A Willy. "Vanne" wrote...

> yet you link him with some freaky PrOn site that ruined my morning,
> Thanks and just know that you yourself are breaking the law posting
> filth as this in NG's.

Heh. Let me guess, that TinyURL was hiding the Goatse Man, right? Or was it
the Tub Girl?

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Da Wrecka

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Mar 25, 2003, 9:11:54 AM3/25/03
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Doogy Rev wrote:
> Heh. Let me guess, that TinyURL was hiding the Goatse Man, right? Or
> was it the Tub Girl?

Goatse. >)

Chris Whitworth

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Mar 25, 2003, 8:45:24 AM3/25/03
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On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:32:57 -0000, Dr Zoidberg spake thusly:

>ZipZap wrote:
>>> I just bought a Dreamcast system for the family and many of the
>>> backups that I picked up recently from a pro dealer
>>
>> LOL........what's a "pro-dealer"?!?! how does one become a
>> professional pirate then?! :)
>>
>Buy a cheap PC and several CDRW drives , blanks by the thousand then flog
>the copied films and games at a car boot sale claiming they are all as good
>as original dvds etc.
>Oh , and don't forget to continue signing on the dole.

And at Bowler's Computer Fair in manchester, and Gaff's Newsagent in
Fallowfield. One day, I'm going to go mad and call the police on all of them.

Chris
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John Kester

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Mar 25, 2003, 10:19:23 AM3/25/03
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Chris the police won't do anything, what you need is more direct action. You
need to confront these people and demand that they stop selling these
illegal copies a
as this will jepardize future releases from Sega. Buy a plackard or give
out leaflets about the harm piracy can do. Piracy is theft and under holy
law you burn in hell for that sin :) Maybe buy a can of petrol and set fire
to yourself in protest to piracy like the Buddist Monks did :) This will
surely discourage people for purchasing these pirate copies :)

If more people like you stood up for Sega's rights then Sega would probably
of never gone tits up and give up completely on its own console :).
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Fik

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Mar 25, 2003, 12:40:02 PM3/25/03
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Da Wrecka <da_wrec...@GONEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Doogy Rev wrote:
>> Heh. Let me guess, that TinyURL was hiding the Goatse Man, right? Or
>> was it the Tub Girl?

Not sure I dare ask this but "Tub Girl" ?


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Lord Deckard

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:29:15 PM3/25/03
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> >> Heh. Let me guess, that TinyURL was hiding the Goatse Man, right? Or
> >> was it the Tub Girl?
>
> Not sure I dare ask this but "Tub Girl" ?
>

I`m just as morbidly curious as you. Who, or what, is Tub Girl?

Lord Deckard


Kamaya

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:39:48 PM3/25/03
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"Lord Deckard" <decka...@dontspammehotmail.com> wrote in message news:3e80bc92$0$227$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com...

> I`m just as morbidly curious as you. Who, or what, is Tub Girl?
>
> Lord Deckard

You really don't want to see this! If you must see it go to tubgirl.com

// Kamaya

PS - I found the answer looking through Google Groups, I wish I hadn't now!


PYRO-Maniak

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Mar 25, 2003, 3:58:54 PM3/25/03
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well if the "BACKUP" games dont play they why dont you use the ORIGINALS
they came from....?

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Vanne

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Mar 25, 2003, 4:07:15 PM3/25/03
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"Da Wrecka" <da_wrec...@GONEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Vanne wrote:
> > This is pretty stupid, Hes not asking for backups, nor is he asking
> > for links for backups, this is realy just a tech question...
> >
> > yet you link him with some freaky PrOn site that ruined my morning,
> > Thanks and just know that you yourself are breaking the law posting
> > filth as this in NG's.
>
> The link is perfectly legal. What this stupid wannabe pirate is trying to
do is not.
> Piracy is given short, sharp shrift in this newsgroup, and any fuck who
comes in here
> expecting help with using or creating "backups" - which are really
pirates - deserves
> everything they get.
>
> And for your information, I'm 20.
>
my guesstimate would be this is feeding trolls, Iam pretty new to this NG,
but wouldent it just be simpler to just ignore requests for illegal content?
as is the norm on all other NG's?

kind regards
Vanne


ZipZap

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Mar 25, 2003, 5:18:27 PM3/25/03
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Kamaya <kamaya_...@talk21.com> wrote in message
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I wonder if they ever thought of using pictures like this in diet plans? It
certainly takes the edge off my appetite!


Da Wrecka

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Mar 25, 2003, 9:13:32 PM3/25/03
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Vanne wrote:
> my guesstimate would be this is feeding trolls, Iam pretty new to
> this NG, but wouldent it just be simpler to just ignore requests for
> illegal content? as is the norm on all other NG's?

Nah, it's more fun to fuck with their heads. I find the mental image of the stupid
wannabe pirate clicking the link I gave, looking at the screen for a second or so
before screaming "I'm blind!" immensely entertaining. Granted it's unlikely to have
happened that way, but the image is appealling nonetheless.

Da Wrecka

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Mar 25, 2003, 9:15:41 PM3/25/03
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Kamaya wrote:
> You really don't want to see this! If you must see it go to
> tubgirl.com

My morbid curiosity won out and I went there, but all I saw was a blank page. The
cognitive areas of my brain are now profusely thanking those parts that make me
suspicious enough and computer-savvy enough to have IE's security settings configured
in a way which borders on the paranoiac. (Dunno if I spelled the last word right, but
eh)

Chris F

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Mar 25, 2003, 10:51:23 PM3/25/03
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On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:15:41 GMT, "Da Wrecka"
<da_wrec...@GONEblueyonder.co.uk> coughed up:

>Kamaya wrote:
>> You really don't want to see this! If you must see it go to
>> tubgirl.com
>
>My morbid curiosity won out and I went there, but all I saw was a blank page. The
>cognitive areas of my brain are now profusely thanking those parts that make me
>suspicious enough and computer-savvy enough to have IE's security settings configured
>in a way which borders on the paranoiac. (Dunno if I spelled the last word right, but
>eh)

nah, paranoid is the word you should've used ;)

Doogy Rev

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Mar 26, 2003, 3:59:51 AM3/26/03
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Nick Fisher wrote Living With A Willy. "Kamaya" wrote...

> "Lord Deckard" <decka...@dontspammehotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3e80bc92$0$227$cc9e...@news.dial.pipex.com...
>> I`m just as morbidly curious as you. Who, or what, is Tub Girl?
>>
>> Lord Deckard
>
> You really don't want to see this!

I think you should have stopped the post there.

I apologise to everyone for bringing up the subject.

neal73

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"Da Wrecka" <da_wrec...@GONEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Vanne wrote:
> > my guesstimate would be this is feeding trolls, Iam pretty new to
> > this NG, but wouldent it just be simpler to just ignore requests for
> > illegal content? as is the norm on all other NG's?
>
> Nah, it's more fun to fuck with their heads. I find the mental image of
the stupid
> wannabe pirate clicking the link I gave, looking at the screen for a
second or so
> before screaming "I'm blind!" immensely entertaining. Granted it's
unlikely to have
> happened that way, but the image is appealling nonetheless.
>

If people took the trouble to read previous posts, they'd soon see that
piracy is not tolerated on this NG. Never has been, never will be.


Jay

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Mar 26, 2003, 6:25:09 AM3/26/03
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How many people here have got Half-Life for their DC?

Now how many of you have got an original copy of it?

Myself included, I'd say it's zero.

Maybe the poor fella was referring to Half-Life? ;-)

Jay


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Mar 26, 2003, 6:29:18 AM3/26/03
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Jay <j...@nospamnospam.com> wrote:

> Maybe the poor fella was referring to Half-Life? ;-)

Even if he did, it still wouldn't be a backup.

-a

Jay

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Mar 26, 2003, 6:40:31 AM3/26/03
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What would it be, then?

I thought all the copies of HL circulating were burned from a copyrighted
pre-release GD-ROM?

Jay


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Mar 26, 2003, 6:57:17 AM3/26/03
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Jay <j...@nospamnospam.com> wrote:
> What would it be, then?

A pirate copy.

> I thought all the copies of HL circulating were burned from a
> copyrighted pre-release GD-ROM?

Precisely.

-a

PYRO-Maniak

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Mar 26, 2003, 9:54:06 AM3/26/03
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Half life is pirated, not a backup as there is no original.

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Da Wrecka

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Mar 27, 2003, 4:52:35 AM3/27/03
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PYRO-Maniak wrote:
> Half life is pirated, not a backup as there is no original.

Obviously there is an original somewhere, but just because an original copy exists
doesn't make a given copy a backup.

The only difference here is, while Half-Life DC is still 100% illegal in the consumer
bracket, nobody's going to bother prosecuting as it's not worth it - the lost revenue
is zero and they'd get pennies out of the arrangement at best.

Topper Steve

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Mar 28, 2003, 5:54:14 AM3/28/03
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What a load of shite, piracy never did the playstaion two any harm or the
playstation one for that matter or the countless numbers of other consoles
happy to charge a fortune for games. Just wish I was on your money so i
could afford to fork out for brand new games all the time or have you just
got shares in sega??

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Mike Kay

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> What a load of shite, piracy never did the playstaion two any harm or the
> playstation one for that matter or the countless numbers of other consoles
> happy to charge a fortune for games. Just wish I was on your money so i
> could afford to fork out for brand new games all the time or have you just
> got shares in sega??


slightly different on the DC, becasue once the GDROM was cracked, there
was no need to chip the DC, therefore people who had never before
considered piracy becasue of the risk of soldering started to get copies.

also, the DC was never as mainstream as the psx/ps2 so piracy would have
hurt more.

however its true imo that the DC was doomed to fail anyway even without
piracy.

poor marketing from sega & false promises from sony meant that too many
people waited to see what the ps2 could do, & once that was released
people baught the ps2 becasue of Sonys image.

sadly, it was long after the DC was doomed that the ps2 actually started
to noticably out perform the DC.

Topper Steve

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Mar 28, 2003, 10:58:36 AM3/28/03
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Good points!, isnt it strange though how sony managed to steal the market
off sega in the first place with the playsttion one but they couldnt get it
back with the dreamcast. You think with all Segas experience they could have
done better. Surely if in todays market where there is room for three major
consoles Sega could have done more to compete with sony. Seems to me they
were more than happy to dump the DC asap which is a shame considering all
the money people spent on them initially!!

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Mike Kay

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Mar 31, 2003, 6:28:20 AM3/31/03
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>
> I would still say the DC is better than the PS2 in terms of games. The only
> decent game I've got on the PS2 is GTA3 (which is actually the reason I
> bought the PS2, along with playing DVDs without needing to buy a DVD
> player). At present the PS2 is only used for playing DVDs and all my game
> playing is done on the DC - as the games are better (IMHO).
>


each to their own i guess, but for me personally there are quite a few
games on the ps2 i really enjoy.

smugglers run 1+2 (quite an oldie)
Pro Evo Sccer 2
The Getaway
GTA3 + Vice City
Ico
Sky Odyssey
Time splitters 2 (acatually played this more on xbox)

all games which imo are very good & AFAIK dont really have equivalents on
the DC which match it in terms of quality.

however i am in no way knocking the DC, its a great console with the
ultimate 4 player game to date imo, & if it has the games you want on it
then good for you becasue they are mostly dirt cheap these days :o)

peter I

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"Da Wrecka" <da_wrec...@GONEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<DRzga.669$ao6.4...@news-text.cableinet.net>...

> PYRO-Maniak wrote:
> > Half life is pirated, not a backup as there is no original.
>
> Obviously there is an original somewhere, but just because an original copy exists
> doesn't make a given copy a backup.
>
> The only difference here is, while Half-Life DC is still 100% illegal in the consumer
> bracket, nobody's going to bother prosecuting as it's not worth it - the lost revenue
> is zero and they'd get pennies out of the arrangement at best.

First of all, some of u daft pricks would never have realized Vanne or
Vulva or whatever his name is posted a porn site if u hadn't all tried
going there looking for said "secret info." Hmmm, and let me guess
that none of u has any boots in your collections, whether it be PC,
cd's, or even photocopies which would be copies of legal material
thereby making it not so legal because it is a copy of an original.
Why not buy the book or magazine, huh? Don't give me that crap, u
lot, he who does not possesseth sin cast the first stone.
Yeah, right, I've heard from quite a few that their DC's died a
miserable death whether they played boots, backups, whatever, or the
legit games. Mine certainly did and I gave up after trying a number
of legit games because my DC kept seizing in the middle of Rippin'
Riders for example.
No worries, I traded the damn thing in. Problem solved. :)

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