Official Dreamcast Magazine RIP
Warren
Warren at war...@wordrepublic.com wrote on 24/7/01 8:02 pm:
> I'm sure there will be an official statement doing the rounds in a day or
> two but in the meantime I thought I should let you know (unofficially) that
> Dennis Publishing closed Official Dreamcast Magazine last Friday. There will
> be no further issues.
>
> While sales held up well in the first few months of the year (our final ABC
> will be around 49k I believe), the figures have understandably fallen since
> Sega announced that it was to cease producing and marketing the Dreamcast.
>
> Until last week we all hoped - and expected - to continue writing and
> publishing ODM until the last of the big DC games comes out at the end of
> the year/early next year.
>
> Unfortunately, sales of the current issue (July/August, #21) have been very
> poor compared with previous issues, suggesting that interest in Dreamcast -
> or, at least, ODM - is dwindling very fast. (The 'best of' Dream On
> compilation won't have helped but let's not go there).
>
> The management took many other factors into account when deciding to close
> the publication, including the fact that Sega could no longer provide cover
> discs or, significantly, proper editorial support.
>
> Some of the content from what would have been ODM #22 will, I believe, be
> posted on the magazine's website (www.dreamcastmag.co.uk) over the next
> couple of weeks. And the website will remain live for the foreseeable future
> - probably into 2002.
>
> So that's it.
>
> I'll still be reading UVGD in the future but it's goodbye for now. Thanks
> for your support and interest (except the Geordie twat, obviously).
>
> Take it easy,
>
>
> Warren
>
> PS Anyone know when Shenmue 2 is due out? ;-)
>
Quirky
> > Unfortunately, sales of the current issue (July/August, #21) have been
very
> > poor compared with previous issues, suggesting that interest in
Dreamcast -
> > or, at least, ODM - is dwindling very fast.
Also... It's summer! It is traditionally a fallow period. Oh well, a bit
late now I suppose.
FatBoy
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> > I'll still be reading UVGD in the future but it's goodbye for now.
Thanks
> > for your support and interest (except the Geordie twat, obviously).
Sorry if I'm stating the obvious here but who????
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> Sorry if I'm stating the obvious here but who????
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> > > > for your support and interest (except the Geordie twat, obviously).
> >
> > Sorry if I'm stating the obvious here but who????
>
> I'm placing odds of evens on J E F F.
>
Tim Miller
>
> Warren at war...@wordrepublic.com wrote on 24/7/01 8:02 pm:
>
> > I'm sure there will be an official statement doing the rounds in a day
or
> > two but in the meantime I thought I should let you know (unofficially)
that
> > Dennis Publishing closed Official Dreamcast Magazine last Friday. There
will
> > be no further issues.
> >
ODM is one of the best games mags I've bought, ranking on the same level as
Edge, just slightly below Amstrad Action and Mega. It was always funny and
informative, and exceptionally well written.
And I went to school with Stuart Dredge, who was one of the writers when it
first started.
> > While sales held up well in the first few months of the year (our final
ABC
> > will be around 49k I believe), the figures have understandably fallen
since
> > Sega announced that it was to cease producing and marketing the
Dreamcast.
> >
A shame, I thought DC owners were more intelligent than to think that ending
production was the same as the console dying.
> > Until last week we all hoped - and expected - to continue writing and
> > publishing ODM until the last of the big DC games comes out at the end
of
> > the year/early next year.
> >
> > Unfortunately, sales of the current issue (July/August, #21) have been
very
> > poor compared with previous issues, suggesting that interest in
Dreamcast -
> > or, at least, ODM - is dwindling very fast. (The 'best of' Dream On
> > compilation won't have helped but let's not go there).
> >
It'd have been better to have no cover disc and a £3 pricepoint ... as was
pointed out, it's the summer. Mega used to have a 10,000 drop in readership
over the summer!
> > The management took many other factors into account when deciding to
close
> > the publication, including the fact that Sega could no longer provide
cover
> > discs or, significantly, proper editorial support.
> >
They'd halved the amount of work it took already!
> > Some of the content from what would have been ODM #22 will, I believe,
be
> > posted on the magazine's website (www.dreamcastmag.co.uk) over the next
> > couple of weeks. And the website will remain live for the foreseeable
future
> > - probably into 2002.
> >
Good. I REDA IT EVRY DAY!!!!1111
I'm firing off an email now to Dennis, saying thanks for the magazine, and
asking if they'd reconsider, just for a final issue. I hate it when
magazines stop like *that*. When they know they're coming to an end, they
can produce a final issue. A retrospective look at things, a feature on the
whole life of the machine and magazine. A pointer at where to look instead,
and what to look out for in the future.
Plus all the stuff that was being written anyway. And I'm sure people here
could write articles. Oooh, you could have a "what was your highpoint and
lowpoint of owning a DC?".
I urge everyone to do the same. Go on, you know you want to. Go on, go on,
go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on.
GO ON!
> > So that's it.
> >
> > I'll still be reading UVGD in the future but it's goodbye for now.
Thanks
> > for your support and interest (except the Geordie twat, obviously).
> >
Good old J E F F. I hope he's happy now that GT2.4 ... er, GT3 ... is out,
and none of the PS2 magazines picked up on the minor bugs in that.
Cheers Warren. For mentioning ugvd in the magazine, and for producing
something I've enjoyed reading. Suppose I'd better get the bask issues I'm
missing!
> > PS Anyone know when Shenmue 2 is due out? ;-)
IT WILL BE TEH BEST THIGN EVA!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111
Tim (tm)
phoe (Colin Wilson)
> ODM is one of the best games mags I've bought, ranking on the same level as
> Edge, just slightly below Amstrad Action and Mega. It was always funny and
> informative, and exceptionally well written.
Am I the only one who remembers "Big K" ? :-}
Tim Miller
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Er, yes.
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> > Er, yes.
LOL no, it wasn`t long for this world, and came out when 48k / 64k was still
considered the bottom end of "big" and left the shelves almost as quicky (I
think it came out just as the Amiga / ST came on the scene)
It was quite a good magazine - I was sad to see it go
I really am the oldest git on this NG aren`t I :-}
neal73
to games in the days before gamesharks or doing a few hundred lines of code
for bugger all to happen? Ah, halcyon days indeed.
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different and wrote:
>Your Sinclair or Crash were always my favourites....remember typing in pokes
>to games in the days before gamesharks or doing a few hundred lines of code
>for bugger all to happen? Ah, halcyon days indeed.
I vaguely remember YS and Crash, although I was always more of a YS
person, possibly because of the pictures on the tape sleeves...
>
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>> > > > Am I the only one who remembers "Big K" ? :-}
>> > > Er, yes.
>> > was it special k's cousin or something?
>>
>> LOL no, it wasn`t long for this world, and came out when 48k / 64k was
>still
>> considered the bottom end of "big" and left the shelves almost as quicky
>(I
>> think it came out just as the Amiga / ST came on the scene)
>>
>> It was quite a good magazine - I was sad to see it go
>>
>> I really am the oldest git on this NG aren`t I :-}
>>
>>
>>
>
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> Your Sinclair or Crash were always my favourites....remember typing in
pokes
> to games in the days before gamesharks or doing a few hundred lines of
code
> for bugger all to happen? Ah, halcyon days indeed.
>
YS = groovy
Crash = crap
[ste]
ZipZap
pokes
> to games in the days before gamesharks or doing a few hundred lines of
code
> for bugger all to happen? Ah, halcyon days indeed.
>
that was a MAN's way to cheat, Gamesharks are for weenies :)
All you poor speccy people who, not only having to suffer rubber keys,
never had the delights of Zzap which really was the best computer magazine
ever! It had a unique humour of its own which no-one since has truly
rivaled.
Dan Medhurst
Dizzy was never the same after a good old poking from your sinclair.
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DVDfever Dom
Big K was fantastic. I've probably still got a couple of issues somewhere
as well as "ACE" (all-computers entertainment?)
Sorry to hear about the closure of ODM, Warren. What's your next venture in
the world of magazines? Any chance you can ask Dennis to bring back the
excellent Escape?
Why is it all the best things come to an end long before their lives
deserve to? Arcade died off when it shouldn't have and another casualty is
[.tv] (Sky ch.567) which is due to close on Sept 2nd. I understand it's due to
a lack of funding.
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Warren
> Sorry to hear about the closure of ODM, Warren. What's your next venture in
> the world of magazines?
PlayNation 2, out Sept 6. :-)
> Any chance you can ask Dennis to bring back the excellent Escape?
LOL! No.
> Why is it all the best things come to an end long before their lives
> deserve to? Arcade died off when it shouldn't have and another casualty is
> [.tv] (Sky ch.567) which is due to close on Sept 2nd. I understand it's due to
> a lack of funding.
Yeah, bang goes my TV 'career'.
Cheers,
W.
Mike Jenkins
wrote:
>DVDfever Dom at d...@dvdfever.co.uk wrote on 29/7/01 4:25 pm:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the closure of ODM, Warren. What's your next venture in
>> the world of magazines?
>
>PlayNation 2
Please tell me you are joking. PLEASE.
>> Why is it all the best things come to an end long before their lives
>> deserve to? Arcade died off when it shouldn't have and another casualty is
>> [.tv] (Sky ch.567) which is due to close on Sept 2nd. I understand it's due to
>> a lack of funding.
>
>Yeah, bang goes my TV 'career'.
I never noticed you on it, although admittedly I only ever watched
Game Over and that annoying tech support program until it became too
annoying.
However, anything that means less Will Hanrahan can only be a good
thing.
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>DVDfever Dom at d...@dvdfever.co.uk wrote on 29/7/01 4:25 pm:
>
>> Sorry to hear about the closure of ODM, Warren. What's your next venture in
>> the world of magazines?
>
>PlayNation 2, out Sept 6. :-)
>
well that will plug a huge hole in the games magazine market, wont it?
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> PlayNation 2, out Sept 6. :-)
Fuck you! Isn't there enough of these stupidly pointless magazines?
Once, I was browsing the magazines section of a newsagents - 0 DC mags,
but PS & PS2 - about 9 or 10 of them!
Next for us - what ps2 mags are there altogether? I'll start the list -
Official Playstation2 Magazine,
P2,
The countless number of Playstation magazines that cover PS2 as well,
...Damn it! Can't think of many more :( Someone else think for me.
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>
> Once, I was browsing the magazines section of a newsagents - 0 DC mags,
> but PS & PS2 - about 9 or 10 of them!
>
magazines each month and tells you which is best. "Best", of course, being
a bit of a misnomer.
Tim (tm)
DVDfever Dom
Warren <war...@wordrepublic.com> writes:
>DVDfever Dom at d...@dvdfever.co.uk wrote on 29/7/01 4:25 pm:
>
>> the world of magazines?
>
Excellent.
>> Any chance you can ask Dennis to bring back the excellent Escape?
>
>LOL! No.
Or we could go back further in time and get the 80s equivalent, "LM",
named after the editor Lloyd Mangram, brought back.
>> Why is it all the best things come to an end long before their lives
>> deserve to? Arcade died off when it shouldn't have and another casualty is
>> [.tv] (Sky ch.567) which is due to close on Sept 2nd. I understand it's due to
>> a lack of funding.
>
>Yeah, bang goes my TV 'career'.
I'm already editing my best of so I can bring it out on video and DVD.
Alas, it only consists of my five minutes of fame on Right 2 Reply, and
even now that's been canned.
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DVDfever Dom
You are a pleasant chap.
>Once, I was browsing the magazines section of a newsagents - 0 DC mags,
>but PS & PS2 - about 9 or 10 of them!
And who's fault is that? Sony's for releasing the PS2, or the rest of the
world for buying one, thus supplying the readership?
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Mike Jenkins
<war...@NOSPAMwordrepublic.com> wrote:
>Ralph <ralphde...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
>
>>> PlayNation 2, out Sept 6. :-)
>>
>>Fuck you!
>
>Charming.
>
>>Next for us - what ps2 mags are there altogether? I'll start the list -
>>
>>Official Playstation2 Magazine,
>>P2,
>
>...PSW, PSM2.
>
>That's about it for PS2-only magazines. So that makes four (five,
>soon) - the same number the DC had at this stage in its life.
Please tell me it isn't called Playnation 2.
Tim Miller
> >Next for us - what ps2 mags are there altogether? I'll start the list -
> >
> >Official Playstation2 Magazine,
> >P2,
>
> ...PSW, PSM2.
>
> That's about it for PS2-only magazines. So that makes four (five,
> soon) - the same number the DC had at this stage in its life.
>
You missed Station2, and Play2. What gets me is that they all look *exactly
the same*.
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big_smile
Hey Warren! Are you still going to be giving away prizes for the "Sonic
Adventure 2 competition"? (The one which is in the last issue of ODM). Sorry
to hear the magazine closed down. it was the best! ^_^
DVDfever Dom
Warren <war...@NOSPAMwordrepublic.com> writes:
>Ralph <ralphde...@ukgateway.net> wrote:
>
>>...Damn it! Can't think of many more :( Someone else think for me.
>
LOL!
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august!?! or is that the last one????
Steve-k
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>
> it closed down? it says in the mag that the next issue will be at the end
of
> august!?! or is that the last one????
>
> Steve-k
You obviously missed the orignal message in the thread, which was;
Warren at war...@wordrepublic.com wrote on 24/7/01 8:02 pm:
> I'm sure there will be an official statement doing the rounds in a day or
> two but in the meantime I thought I should let you know (unofficially)
that
> Dennis Publishing closed Official Dreamcast Magazine last Friday. There
will
> be no further issues.
>
> While sales held up well in the first few months of the year (our final
ABC
> will be around 49k I believe), the figures have understandably fallen
since
> Sega announced that it was to cease producing and marketing the Dreamcast.
>
> Until last week we all hoped - and expected - to continue writing and
> publishing ODM until the last of the big DC games comes out at the end of
> the year/early next year.
>
> Unfortunately, sales of the current issue (July/August, #21) have been
very
> poor compared with previous issues, suggesting that interest in
Dreamcast -
> or, at least, ODM - is dwindling very fast. (The 'best of' Dream On
> compilation won't have helped but let's not go there).
>
> The management took many other factors into account when deciding to close
> the publication, including the fact that Sega could no longer provide
cover
> discs or, significantly, proper editorial support.
>
> Some of the content from what would have been ODM #22 will, I believe, be
> posted on the magazine's website (www.dreamcastmag.co.uk) over the next
> couple of weeks. And the website will remain live for the foreseeable
future
> - probably into 2002.
>
> So that's it.
>
> I'll still be reading UVGD in the future but it's goodbye for now. Thanks
> for your support and interest (except the Geordie twat, obviously).
>
> Take it easy,
>
>
> Warren
>
> PS Anyone know when Shenmue 2 is due out? ;-)
>
^_^