What television are you using with your console?
Martin Wilson
are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
1. Brand?
2. Model No?
3. Screen size?
4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
discolourisation?
9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
and is this correctable via the menu?
10. How old is the set?
11. How much did you pay for the set?
12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
connected?
14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
signal properly or are there picture problems?
15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
brightness variations?
16. Any unique features?
17. Would you buy the same brand again?
18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
If you use more than one tv please reply twice rather than fill in the
same answers mentioning both sets together. The more replies we get
the more we will know about the different brands. Obviously if your
not interested fair enough but you don't see many tv reviews directly
related to gaming use so I think it will be helpful.
Mike Jenkins
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> writes
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
Panasonic
>2. Model No?
TX28CK1
>3. Screen size?
28"
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
NICAM
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
1x RGB/Composite SCART, 1x composite/audio in at front.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Excellent picture quality in 50hz, awful flickering and distortion in
60hz, screen grows and shrinks when there are large white areas (bad
power supply).
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Discoloured in 60hz.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
Left RGB shift present, not tried fixing it.
>10. How old is the set?
11 months.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
£350
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Crap performance in 60hz mode. Only one SCART socket, no S-video at all.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
Jaguar, SNES, Mega Drive, Master System, Xbox, PS2, Gamecube, N64,
Playstation, PS2, Dreamcast, all connected with RGB SCART except the N64
which was with composite and the Master System with RF.
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
Flickering and yellowness in 60hz mode. Dies down after a while.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
Works fine with DVD but only used RGB so Macrovision wouldn't kick in.
>16. Any unique features?
It's silver, and it has an utterly useless contrast adjust feature. You
can also adjust the colour levels of an RGB source which is not a good
thing.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
No.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
Generally low quality, hopeless Panasonic support.
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
N/A
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
4.
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Icarus ^i^
:: As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
:: are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
:: others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
:: permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
::
:: 1. Brand?
Philips
::
::
:: 2. Model No?
32PW8506
::
::
:: 3. Screen size?
32inch
::
::
:: 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
::
::
:: 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
::
::
:: 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Scart, 1 S-video
::
::
:: 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Great picture quality. No bad points from me.
::
::
:: 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
:: discolourisation?
It's clean
::
::
:: 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart
:: images and is this correctable via the menu?
It's good.
::
::
:: 10. How old is the set?
6 months
::
::
:: 11. How much did you pay for the set?
About £800
::
::
:: 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to
:: mention like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Two faint, vertical lines only visible on dark backgrounds during DVD
playback. I've seen other people report it and it seems I have to live with
it. No big problem.
::
:: 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
:: connected?
NES - Antenna (not sure what it's called :)
SNES - Antenna
N64 - Scart
Gamecube - Scart RGB
XBox - Scart RGB
::
:: 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
:: signal properly or are there picture problems?
No import
::
:: 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
:: with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
:: brightness variations?
Only the vertical lines
::
:: 16. Any unique features?
::
::
:: 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes
::
:: 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
::
:: 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Haven't had to hand it in for service yet.
::
:: 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8/10
::
::
::
::
:: If you use more than one tv please reply twice rather than fill in
:: the same answers mentioning both sets together. The more replies we
:: get the more we will know about the different brands. Obviously if
:: your not interested fair enough but you don't see many tv reviews
:: directly related to gaming use so I think it will be helpful.
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Martin Wilson
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
>
Philips
>2. Model No?
>
Don't know and ain't moving it to find out but it is a Combi.
>3. Screen size?
>
21" FST
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
4:3
>
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Its nicam with two front facing speakers. Good quality output and also
has a fake virtual surround mode. No complaints at all as its nice
dynamic sound.
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
One full feature scart around the back and front AV sockets but no
s-video on either the front or through the scart its purely composite
and RGB only. 3.5mm headphone socket.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
>
Picture quality is generally very good with excellent colour and
resolution.
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
>
>
If I leave it on standby most of the time its possible for colour
inpurity to build up on screen lets say after 8 weeks but switching it
off allowing to cool and then switching back with the actual on/off
switch always cures it. If I'm watching an image with a black borders
on the edge of the border top left you almost always see a slight red
bleed running along the top left a little way towards the centre. Its
very minor but there.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
>
>
Convergence is excellent and teletext is super square. Sadly the set
does have the left shift on rgb and there is no way to compensate on
the tv menus.
>10. How old is the set?
>
About 3 years old I think.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
I paid £240 at auction and bought it secondhand with little use. It
came as new but no manual and wrong box. At the time the full retail
price was about £540 with the real shop price being from £400 to £480.
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
No reliability issues only minor annoyance is sometimes theres like a
transparent grain on the menus which is very slight and totally
insignificant but I just don't know why its there.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
>
I've used basically all consoles with both composite and rgb
connections with great results apart from the minor left shift on rgb
with some of them but not all!
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
It runs brilliantly with 60hz but can not take a native ntsc signal
via a composite connection that will just be b/w.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
>
Its not macrovision sensitive and works well with dvds.
>16. Any unique features?
>
>
Being a combi its also a full feature 6 head nicam video all built in.
You also have an extend option so games with minor top and bottom
black borders can run as if they are full screen games with no
borders. A very useful feature. Its also totally secam compatible but
who cares!
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Yes I would its an excellent set.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
none
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
not applicable.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
8 1/2 out of 10
benjamin.pascall
"Martin Wilson" <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Sony
>
>
> 2. Model No?
KV28LS35S
>
>
> 3. Screen size?
28" Flatscreen
>
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
16x9 (1.77:1)
>
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
All three
>
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
Only 2 - and I have about 7 scarts that I have to keep changing.
>
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Excellent.
>
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Yep - colour is consistent throught the screen - one of the benefits of
flatscreen.
>
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes
>
>
> 10. How old is the set?
6 months
>
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£550 from Costco in Trafford Park, with a 3 year warranty. Seen actual set
is for sale at £800 to £900 in high street stores.
>
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Totally reliable.
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Playstation 2 - scart, Xbox - scart,
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
My dvd player is macrovision disabled. The dvd picture with a gold scart on
RGB is top class.
>
> 16. Any unique features?
None out of the ordinary
>
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yep.
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
So-so
>
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8.5
Covert Badger
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
Hmm, good idea.
>1. Brand?
Philips
>2. Model No?
Not sure, I'll have a look round the back this evening
>3. Screen size?
32"
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Prologic (though all my sound goes through my Digitheatre rather than
the TV)
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Scarts (1 RGB), composite & s-video front inputs. Audio L+R out.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Pretty damn excellent, though needs some careful balancing of
brightness and contrast to avoid nasty white 'streaks' from white
objects against black backgrounds.
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Colour is excellent.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes I get a left shift, and no there's no menu correction (at least
that I know of - there may be something in the service engineer menu
which I don't know how to access). My GC allows me to correct it
though :-)
>10. How old is the set?
Ooh, about 5 years. Maybe 6 (not sure exactly, I bought it 2nd hand
from a mate).
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
£450
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Faultless so far.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
DC (RGB), N64 (composite scart), GC (RGB), Xbox (RGB), PS2 (composite)
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
My GC is imported. It handles the 60hz signal perfectly (ie no picture
roll) but doesn't understand NTSC, so I have to use a custom RGB
cable. Which gives me an astonishing picture :-)
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
No problems with my Lecson and about 100 DVDs from regions 0, 1, 2, 3
and 4.
>16. Any unique features?
Judging from posts to agvgc the audio out jacks are quite unusual, I
use them as stereo input to my home cinema decoder, so anything
connected to the TV automatically uses the home cinema setup. This
means I can have 3 consoles, a DVD player and a digibox all plugged
into two daisy-chained Argos scart switchers, and my N64 into the
composite scart socket, and get prologic sound from them all (5.1 for
DVD and Xbox). With no cable swapping. Nice.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Possibly, cos the picture is excellent, but I'd make sure of NTSC
support first. In honesty, I'd look at Toshiba before Philips.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
NTSC.
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
N/A
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
Ooh, 8.5
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rich a
Ooh, good topic. Are you going to collate all this stuff and stick it
on a webpage?
> 1. Brand?
>
LG/Goldstar
>
> 2. Model No?
>
CF-21T30T
>
> 3. Screen size?
>
21"
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
4:3
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Nicam
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
1 set of front inputs (composite + audio) and one RGB scart. Doesn't
accept S-Video at all.
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Picture quality is pretty good - colours are particularly vivid, games
looks great through RGB.
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
The colour is clean
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
You can h4x0r the image and shift it to the right in a service mode (the
standard service mode for quite a lot of LG tellies can be accessed by
pressing the OK button on the TV and remote for a few seconds), however
because the Gamecube is so grate it already has a left-shift-
correctoriser in its setup mode.
>
> 10. How old is the set?
>
I bought it in Early 2001 - around feburary-ish
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
Just over a hundred squid.
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
It's been very reliable.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
RF:
Spectrum 48K, Systema TV Boy II
Composite:
NES, N64
RGB:
PlayStation, PlayStation 2, SNES, GameCube, Dreamcast
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
I don't have an import console. However, this set "does" NTSC from a
composite source without a problem, and it also does 60Hz beautifully.
There is a tiny little bit of flickering the top left-hand corner while
doing 60Hz, but it's not too noticable.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
>
No problems with DVD's.
> 16. Any unique features?
It has a really really shit game built into it. Luckily you can disable
it in the service menu. It works with just about any PAL signal it can
find, so it works all over Europe - apart from evil SECAM using France.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Definitely. When I'm rich, I might invest in an LG Flatron.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
I bought it at a German supermarket. It came with a 24 month guarantee
and the woman at the counter rang me a taxi so I could take it home. I
think that counts as good service.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8
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Stewart Smith
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
>
Er, LG...
> 2. Model No?
>
???
>
> 3. Screen size?
>
21"
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
mono
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
1x RGB SCART. Nothing else except for the standard RF
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Shite. Little bit of sideways movement when large areas of white on screen.
RGB scart with the Playstation shifted about half an inch to the left of the
screen. Seems to be alright with the GC but you can set the offset with that.
I haven't seen it with a 60Hz signal yet as I don't have any compatible GC games.
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
Nothing noticable
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
Yeah it's shifted in RGB but there is not way to fix it unless there are service
menus I can't get to.
>
> 10. How old is the set?
>
2 years
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
£80 "new" from Cash Generators.
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
Pretty reliable. Cheap.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
>
PS,PS2 and GC all RGB SCART.
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
I don't have any US games anymore for the PS1 so I haven't tried it with this TV.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
>
Don't have a DVD player yet, I'll tell you next week maybe.
> 16. Any unique features?
>
much cheapness!
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Maybe.
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
It's not exactly a prestigious thing to own...
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
From Cash Generators?
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
5 it does the job and cost very little.
Stewart Smith
> You can h4x0r the image and shift it to the right in a service mode (the
> standard service mode for quite a lot of LG tellies can be accessed by
> pressing the OK button on the TV and remote for a few seconds),
That's interesting, I might try that on mine tonight...
Stewart
6000 Sux with Factory sticker on it
Toshiba
> 2. Model No?
40WH08B
> 3. Screen size?
40 inch Rear-Projection
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
16:9 Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Built in Dolby Digital 5.1
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
3 Scarts (1 RGB) + S-video. Front AV and Stereo Sound connections.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Great Picture quality. And its clean and big.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Clean.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Convergence is great. And there is a menu to adjust it if it shifts. (No
shift on RGB images)
> 10. How old is the set?
almost 2 Years
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
1200 pounds. They are cheaper now I think.
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
No problems at all.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Dreamcast on RGB Scart, PS2 on S-Video, XBox on RGB Scart.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No but it plays NTSC DVDs. But Pal 60hz no problem.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Its absolutely brilliant for DVDs.
> 16. Any unique features?
Not really.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes. Sound & Vision (mail order). Brilliant next day delivery and very
helpful. Had good customer service from Toshiba too, when
I needed to ask them some questions.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9/10
Michael Cargill
LG
> 2. Model No?
CE-21T22KX
> 3. Screen size?
21"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam, but it isnt anything amazing.
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
One RGB socket at the back, and 3 composite sockets at the front (video,
left and right stereo). Also has a headphone jack at the front.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Screen is very flat, and the picture is spankingly brilliant on RGB. My
Atari Jaguar looks like a new machine in RGB!
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Looks fine to me.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Havent had any problems with a left shift - although for some reason my
Dreamcast and Amiga 1200 are in black and white through RGB.
> 10. How old is the set?
3 months or so.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£180
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Only issue is with not having any colour with the DC and A1200 through RGB.
Tried a differenct DC and different cables.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Xbox - RGB, Atari Jag - RGB, DC - Composite, A1200 - composite, N64 -
Composite.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
Havent tried an import console, although the TV does do PAL60.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
My DVD player is in my PC.
> 16. Any unique features?
Got a silly little Tetris type game in the menus.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
It doesnt have blonde hair or large breasts.
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Bought it online. Only 'problem' was them not having it in stock.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
Not an expert on TV's, but it suits me fine - 8.5?
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rich a
Okay, just a few tips... If it's like my telly, you can cycle through the
different menus by pressing the yellow fastext button on your remote,
store the settings by pressing "OK", and exit service mode by pressing the
"TV/AV" button. Also if you telly has different screen settings (mine has
Normal, Wide and Zoom) then you can save different settings for each
one...
qIroS
>1. Brand?
>
Hitachi
>
>2. Model No?
>
C28W410SN
>
>3. Screen size?
>
28"
>
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
16:9
>
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
NICAM
>
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
2 x Scart (1 x RGB/Composite, 1 x S-Video/Composite)
1 x S-Video mini-din.
>
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
A little colour streaking if the 'wrong' colours are side by side. Not
too noticeable.
>
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
>
No problems in this regard, the streaking can occur on any area of the
screen. I'm assuming you meant a colour shift in one area.
>
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
>
Tiny left shift, about 2mm. Correctable in a service menu though I
haven't bothered because its so small.
>
>10. How old is the set?
>
20 months.
>
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
Don't recall. About 400 I think.
>
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
Nope. Totally reliable so far.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
>
Megadrive (RF), Dreamcast and Gamecube (RGB), CDi (Composite).
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
No import consoles but it copes admirably with 60Hz DVDs and PAL-60
console output on UHF, RGB, S-Video and Composite inputs.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
>
No problems with macrovision.
>16. Any unique features?
>
Not that I recall, although it has a reasonably decent selection of
picture modes but I'd expect that of any decent Widescreen set.
>
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Probably.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
I'd make sure that colour streak was fixed first.
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
Yes.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
7
Michael Cargill
Me too!
Chris
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
>
>
> 2. Model No?
15V11B
>
> 3. Screen size?
15" (totally flat)
>
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
>
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
mono (everything is conected via a surround sound decoder so mono didnt
bother me)
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 scarts 1 (believe only 1 had rgb, maybe i am wrong) front input, 1
headphones
>
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
excellent, great colour, very clear, beats my old sony 16"wide (which broke)
>
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
not noticed any at all
>
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
slight shift, not corectable via menu, no shift noticible on dvdrecorder
with rgb out
>
>
> 10. How old is the set?
lol, my old 1 broke so this is a mere 5 days old
>
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
170
>
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
none, which makes a nice break from my ex sony set
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
ps2 > scart
gc > scart
n64 > rf
dc > rf
dvd, dvdrecorder, vhs all scart
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
60hz on dvds and games works perfectly
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
no problem there
>
> 16. Any unique features?
its ickle! but not a crappy fish bowl screen, totaly flat, and 15" tvs are
quite rare, 14 too small 17+" too big for my room!
>
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
yes, but would depend on the models avaliable at that time etc
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
yes!! arived in 23 hours after ordering =o)
>
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9
Martin Wilson
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
>
Hitachi
>2. Model No?
>
C2121T
>3. Screen size?
>
21" FST
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
4:3
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Its 1.5 watts of mono glory! THD only 10%. They fit an awesome 3W
speaker just to be safe. It works you hear stuff that is all.
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
1 full feature RGB scart, front av inputs. No s-video at all.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Picture quality is generally good. Contrast levels are superb, detail
isn't brilliant but colours are very vibrant. I think the limitation
here is the resolution of the tube it ain't amazing and I would
imagine the dot pitch would be something like 0.42mm or worse.
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
>
Its totally clean.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
>
The convergence ain't brilliant. With the text up you can see that its
not perfect but not bad.
>10. How old is the set?
>
3 years approx.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
I used some argos vouchers which i got cheap off my visa card plus
another shop discount voucher to get the set for about £115 when it
should have been about £140.
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
No real issues.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
>
It really only gets used with the dreamcast as its in the dining room
with the exercise bike. This is connected via RGB with great results
visually. I have also used it with a US N64 and it gave an excellent
picture with this console even though other tvs wouldn't. I put this
down to the excellent contrast levels of this set.
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
Its not ntsc compatible via composite but no problems with rgb except
the left shift shows a less than vertical display on the right side of
the screen. Its a little bit bowed. Only marginally though at about
1/5th of a centimetre variation from the middle compared to top and
bottom.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
>
Never used this set with dvds.
>16. Any unique features?
>
Well theres fastext with a 8 page memory! Its a basic set but
generally the picture is excellent but you get the impression it would
be a lot better if only they spent a few more minutes or even seconds
setting up the picture at the factory but this can be said for a lot
of sets.
>
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
I wouldn't pay full price for a Hitachi set but if it was a good deal
I would go for it.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
I feel the convergence should be slightly better and the tube used is
a fairly cheap tube I would imagine or has a fairly poor dot pitch.
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
It was from Argos and they are always pretty friendly I find. In fact
initially I bought a sharp set but when I went to collect it, I found
they had given me a thomson set but they said they were out of stock
and this was a better replacement. I took it home and it was an
excellent set but was worried about long term reliability so told them
when you get a sharp back in stock can I swop it other. They said yes!
I had the thomson about 2 months and then went in and swopped it for
the sharp but the sharp had changed it no longer had a headphone
socket that I needed even though it was mentioned in the spec of the
catalogue. That went back and I got the Hitachi. I needed the
headphone socket as I work nights and I'm often up playing games at
odd hours over the weekend. I have to say of the three the Thomson was
the best set but Which reliability survey had shown the thomson sets
to be the least reliable and so didn't fancy keeping the one I had.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
6 out of 10
[fenster]
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Sony
> 2. Model No?
KV28LS35S
> 3. Screen size?
28" Flatscreen
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam/Virtual Dolby.
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
1 x RGB, 1 x Comp, AV connectors at the back. 1 x S-Video and Headphone
socket at side/front pop-out panel.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Picture is excellent. A huge improvement on the last Grunding set I had.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Nope.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes it shifts left, but can be altered in the menu.
> 10. How old is the set?
4 months
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£510 including cabinet & 3 year warranty. It was from an auction - Hamlets
closed down. At the time it was £650-800 depending on where you went (Empire
Direct or high street).
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Fine so far in the time I've had it.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
NTSC Gamecube. All these PAL: Gamecube, XBox, PS2, Dreamcast, Saturn, PS1
RGB'd. SNES, MegaDrive composite.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
Import Gamecube games are good - NTSC US or NTSC J. Likewise import DC
games. 50 or 60hz is good too.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Picture is fine with DVDs. I only use the XBox to play them though.
> 16. Any unique features?
Err the cabinet nicely holds GC, XB, DC & Saturn :o)
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Bought from auction but they did make me load it into the car myself. Make
that a no!
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
For the price I paid I'd give it a 9. I can't see me replacing it for a few
years yet.
benjamin.pascall
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Thats 2 of us happy with the set
Martin Wilson
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
>
Pinnacle
>2. Model No?
>
PCTV Pro (yep its a tv card) plus Descaler.
>3. Screen size?
>
I use a 17" Compaq Presario with JBL fitted Speakers.
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
4:3
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Its nicam
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
One composite and one s-video.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Excellent picture quality via s-video, tuner and composite images not
as good. Generally resolution is a little low.
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
>
No problems with the Compaq.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
>
Compaq has full digital menu settings for changing practically
everything.
>10. How old is the set?
>
2 years.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
I paid about £35 for the pctv pro card using a buy.com voucher. £75
for the Compaq monitor.
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
no.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
>
Dreamcast via s-video with excellent results at 50 or 60hz.
Playstation 2 via s-video. Not tried gamecube or xbox via composite
yet.
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
Descaler has every conceivable opiton you would need to get a working
image.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
>
I use windvd and cinemaster player natively.
>16. Any unique features?
>
Well obviously being a tv card I can take screen grabs and movies of
games. The tv card is fully remote control but I never use or need
this. It also has a fm radio built in.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Definitely
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
none
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
I'd setup about 8 email accounts and made constant use of their £20
off vouchers getting stuff time and time again for less than cost. I
was public enemy number 1 to them I think. Anyway their customer
services were never that friendly to me or efficient.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
Nice tv card, lots of features and great results with descaler.
Zathras
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Phillips
>
> 2. Model No?
Blackline S
>
> 3. Screen size?
32"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
widescreen
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam (use separates for audio)
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 SCARTS (1 RGB), plus S-video on side
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Excellent picture quality - esp. RGB
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
RGB is crystal clear.
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
No left shift.
>
> 10. How old is the set?
2 years - owned it for 1 year.
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£500 - second hand
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Reliable.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
DC, PS2, Saturn, PS1, XBox all connected via RGB SCART
PAL Gamecube RGB SCART, US/JP Gamecube S-video
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
DC, PS2 run in RGB - 60hz is crystal clear.
TV supports NTSC, so US import GC runs 60hz NTSC S-Video. Picture is
excellent - but not as clean as RGB.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
No macrovision problems - again a direct RGB connection.
> 16. Any unique features?
Nope.
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9/10.
Chris Whitworth
>1. Brand?
Bush
>2. Model No?
WS... er, something
1667 maybe?
>3. Screen size?
28"
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen (16:9)
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2x SCART (1 RGB) plus 1x Composite in/out and stereo audio in/out
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Generally good. Colour balance good, picture is crisp and detailed (especially
with RGB). Dot crawl with composite is very slight, but obviously the picture
is very blurry in this case. Slight flicker in 60Hz.
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Very, very slight darkening in top right; not generally noticeable.
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
Convergence is good; there is no perceptible left shift on RGB scart. There
might be an option to correct it, but if there is, I've never needed it.
>10. How old is the set?
3 months.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
250quid
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
So far it's been completely reliable.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
Dreamcast (RGB scart), Gamecube (Composite)
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
N/A - but I've run import games on my Dreamcast and they're fine - the 60Hz
signal displays correctly (albeit with a slight flicker)
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
I've never noticed a problem with macrovision DVDs, but then I don't know if I
have any, as my DVD player is chipped to disable macrovision protection.
>16. Any unique features?
Exceptional value for money.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Probably; but I wouldn't deliberately seek out the same brand.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
It was Argos. Customer support? Sh'yeah, right.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8
A decent, no frills telly; exceptional value for money.
--
Chris Whitworth
"back when I was young, we had to travel back in time to put the tape
in so the game would load before we died."
--otama, ua2
Chris Flowers
> 1. Brand?
JVC
> 2. Model No?
AV-28WFR1EK
> 3. Screen size?
28"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Pure Flat Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Dolby Prologic
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
EXT 1: SCART RGB (REAR)
EXT 2: SCART (REAR)
EXT 3: SCART (REAR)
EXT 4: RCA x 3 & S-VIDEO x 1 (FRONT)
AUDIO OUT: RCA x 2
SURROUND REAR: SPK Terminals
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Excellent. Some bright colours bleed a little - only ever noticed on
Channel 4 though, for some bizzare reason!
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Clean.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes.
> 10. How old is the set?
Less then 6 months.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£600
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
No, not really.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
PS2 is conencted via S-VIDEO
GameCube is connected via RGB SCART
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
N/A
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
TV is fine in that respect.
> 16. Any unique features?
You can tilt the screen!
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
I think so.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
As good as it gets from Comet :o)
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8/10
--
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Trousers
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
>
Toshiba
> 2. Model No?
>
32ZD98
> 3. Screen size?
32"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
16:9
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Don't use the telly's sound but it's got built in Dolby Digital
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
3 scarts 1 component 1 s-video
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
some smearing but good picture overall - occasional artefact with 100Hz
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
clean
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
Good convergence - but correctable
> 10. How old is the set?
>
2yrs old
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
£1400
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
dead reliable
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Just dc via scart
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
Nope
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
Top quality with dvds
Mark A
>
> 1. Brand?
Pioneer
> 2. Model No?
SD-T50W CRT RPTV
> 3. Screen size?
50"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
16x9
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam, but it's switched off. I use an external Sony DD/DTS AV amp and
Boston micro speakers with a REL sub.
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
AV 1 to 4 - two scart (both programable RGB/S-Vid, two S-Video/composite
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
It's big and it's clever.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image
Yes.
> or have you got discolourisation?
Nope.
> 9. Is the convergence good
Yes.
> to you get a left shift on RGB scart images and is this correctable
> via the menu?
Don't get it, it auto adjusts.
> 10. How old is the set?
'Bout three or four now, I guess.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
Got it discounted to £2500, was officially £4000
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Did buzz when I first got it. Pioneer engineer fixed and it's been
perfect ever since.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
PS1, N64 were via scart switch box. PS2 connected to one of the S-Vid
inputs. All my various satellite boxes connected to the RGB ports.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
Don't, but it does handle 60Hz options on PS2 games no problem.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
It does work perfectly, but then I have a stand alone DVD player too, so
I use that in preference to the PS2.
> 16. Any unique features?
Not these days. One of the first sets to have a non-linear stretch for
4:3 material, but that's commonplace now.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yup!
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
Nope. Other than I'd like something bigger. :)
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
No, they were crap. Luckily Pioneer themselves were outstanding.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
Regards
Mark
Kamaya
> So timepermitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Hitachi
> 2. Model No?
C1421R
> 3. Screen size?
14"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Mono
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
1x A/V on front, 1x Scart on back
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Very good colours, contrast and brightness but screen expands when lots of white is on screen
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Clean across whole area
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Picture over to left a bit, not correctable via menu
> 10. How old is the set?
3 years approx
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£90
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
No issues
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Mega Drive / Mega CD via aerial, Saturn via Scart, Dreamcast via Scart and aerial
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No import console but I have run NTSC (via PC) and PAL 60Hz (via Dreamcast) with no problems
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
No macrovision protection
> 16. Any unique features?
None
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8/10
Tom
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
>
>
> 2. Model No?
>
CE-21Q26ET
>
> 3. Screen size?
>
21" Flatscreen
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
speakers.
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
the Xbox is in a scart socket (with auto switchover) it won't let you turn
the channel over and use the tuner until you turn off the input. Luckily, I
don't use this TV for my Skybox, as that would be annoying as hell.
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
then I turn the Xbox on and it's too dark. Luckily, it has presets for Games
Consoles, so when I turn the Xbox or PS2 on, I just switch it over to the
preset. Still annoying though.
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
>
> 10. How old is the set?
>
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
>
Xbox - RGB scart
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
only really noticeable in the DVD menu for the films.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
>
> 16. Any unique features?
>
It has quite a nice "Digital Eye" meaning as the room gets brighter or
darker, the TV adjusts itself to make the picture good for the environment.
Annoying thing is it brings up a little bar telling you it's changing when
it gets brighter or darker. So I normally have it switched off while
watching films e.t.c.
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
flatscreen, the Sony one was a lot more)
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
to give us the separate box with the stand in, and when we noticed they
didn't ask any questions, they just got the stand to us.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
>
>
Da Wrecka
relevant to ALL of them at least partly. A rarity.
Martin Wilson <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> scribbled:
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Bush
> 2. Model No?
2054T
> 3. Screen size?
20"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Dunno. What's the standard? (It's certainly not widescreen, this one)
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
mono
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
One RF, one SCART
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
RF quality sucks, RGB SCART quality rivals VGA.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
RF jitters sometimes, SCART is steady. Although having said that I've only ever tried
the SCART connection with my DC and once with a VCR - long enough to work out it's
60Hz-incompatible, so the picture was rolling too much to make a judgement..
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
No convergence, and what menu?
> 10. How old is the set?
4 years minimum.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
Lord knows.
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
It's RGB-capable but 60Hz-incapable. If it supported 60Hz I'd be quite happy with it.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Master System, Mega Drive/MCD, Saturn, Dreamcast, SNES. All connected via RF solely,
bar the Dreamcast which is currently connected via an official SCART lead.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
N/A since the telly can't do 60Hz anyway
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Not tested with DVDs.
> 16. Any unique features?
Besides sucking? Zero.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Maybe, but probably not.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
N/A on both counts
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
4/10
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> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Toshiba Rear-Projection
> 2. Model No?
42WH18B
> 3. Screen size?
42in.
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
WS 16x8
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Built-in DD5.1, but I use an external AV reciever
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
Two Scart (1RGB), component, composite and Svideo (various oudio inputs for
5.1)
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Very good
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
No colour problems once I got it set up right.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
RGB shift, but theres an option to sort it in the menu.
> 10. How old is the set?
3 weeks old.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£1400
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Nope real probs so far (touch wood)
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
UK PAL Ps2 (RGB SCART) UK PAL Xbox (RGB SCART) Jap/US NTSC GameCube
(S-Video)
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
It does NTSC fine, no probs.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Perfect
> 16. Any unique features?
5.1 decoder built in. it's bloody big !
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Aye
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
n/a
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Not bad, I knew more than them as always. Electrical Superstores know next
to nothing about what they sell.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
8/10
>
> If you use more than one tv please reply twice rather than fill in the
> same answers mentioning both sets together. The more replies we get
> the more we will know about the different brands. Obviously if your
> not interested fair enough but you don't see many tv reviews directly
> related to gaming use so I think it will be helpful.
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> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
> 2. Model No?
24WK25UG
> 3. Screen size?
24"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Scarts (RBG,SVid) & SVid/Comp/AudioL/R side inputs.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Generally Good, some minor warping when displaying bright bands.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Clean
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Good - no shift.
> 10. How old is the set?
2 months
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£270
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Reliable so far, sometimes high pitch noise when stretching 4:3 to 16:9
(What's LOTP??)
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Xbox - RGB Scart (Previously Composite)
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No, but 60Hz (xbox PAL-60) works fine
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Fine
> 16. Any unique features?
Some whats-on-tv menu thing. Not much really
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes, so long as this one lasts!
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
N/A
Matthew Clemson
"Martin Wilson" <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:90obou8i7fcfjn45t...@4ax.com...
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
> 1. Brand?
Sony
> 2. Model No?
KV-X2521U Trinitron
> 3. Screen size?
Um. Twentysomething inches. 21, guessing from the model number?
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam stereo at the moment. Planning to invest in a Dolby ProLogic II & 5.1
capable amp and speakers at the end of the month.
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 * Rear SCART (1 RGB)
No front inputs
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Great, considering the age of the telly. It's not really going to compete
with a brand-new system
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Can't say I've noticed discolouration.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
I've not found details of a menu on this set to fix that (too old, I guess);
a shame, because it has a good half-inch or so of left-shift. Praise be to
the Gamecube RGB fix widget :-)
> 10. How old is the set?
Jeez. Ten years, maybe?
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
Nothing, it was a hand-me-down from the parents after they got a widescreen
system.
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Reasonably reliable. A few glitches (Fails to power on fully sometimes, for
instance) - I'd attribute these to age, they're certainly not major issues.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
N64 (Composite cables into non-RGB SCART socket)
SNES (Composite cables into non-RGB SCART socket)
Playstation 1/2 (RGB cable into Argos SCART splitter into RGB SCART socket)
Dreamcast (RGB cable into Argos SCART splitter into RGB SCART socket)
Gamecube (RGB cable into Argos SCART splitter into RGB SCART socket)
Saturn (RGB cable into RGB SCART socket) [Last ran it in the pre-splitter
days...]
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
I don't have an import console. I have run import games, though; there are
some warping effects when running those.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
I've not noticed
> 16. Any unique features?
Yeah, right.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Probably. Although maybe a newer model.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
-
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
What, from my parents? Well, they fed me for a good sixteen years or so,
does that count?
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
7
-Matt
Martin Wilson
>> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>Reliable so far, sometimes high pitch noise when stretching 4:3 to 16:9
>(What's LOTP??)
>
My fingers were too quick for me it should read LOPT for Line Output
Transformer. Apologies if LOPT isn't the right abbreviation but it
seemed to ring a bell from my days of working in a tv/hifi shop a few
years ago.
Martin Wilson
>Martin Wilson <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Ooh, good topic. Are you going to collate all this stuff and stick it
>on a webpage?
>
Your confusing me with someone able to write web pages and motivated
to do so :-)
Still its a good idea for someone with a bit of spare webspace and the
motivation.
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<snip>
> :: 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to
> :: mention like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
> Two faint, vertical lines only visible on dark backgrounds during DVD
> playback. I've seen other people report it and it seems I have to live
with
> it. No big problem.
I reported this problem to my dealer (have the same issue here on a
32PW9576).
They can't find a solution, i was close to demanding a new set as they fail
to fix it, but im starting to think this problem will exist on any
replacement (not an isolated problem but a general thing), so asking for a
new set would be useless then.... right... hmmm. Any thoughts?
Sweater Fish
>
> 1. Brand?
>
Upscan converter: Micomsoft
Monitor: Hewlett Packard
>
> 2. Model No?
>
Upscan converter: XRGB-2
Monitor: HP Pavilion M90
>
> 3. Screen size?
>
19"
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
4:3
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Nicam (I suppose that's British for "stereo," eh?). I have it hooked into
my main stereo system.
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
One each RGB, s-video, composite and VGA passthough. The RGB uses the
Japanese standard, same connector as SCART, but a different pinout, it's
quite simple to modify an SCART cable, though.
I use a separate composite/s-video switchbox to hook up all my stuff at
once. The RGB plug is on the front of the box, so switching that is
painless.
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Excellent picture quality in RGB, but the s-video and composite don't look
as nice as through some TVs I've seen. With virtual scanlines turned on,
it's fairly average, though. There's a number of picture settings that can
be altered such as gamma correction and a switch that can alter the levels
of the RGB line for use with an arcade PCB board.
The monitor allows for further alterations such as pin-cushion and rotation
all automatically saved.
And, of course, the Dreamcast gets hooked up directly via VGA and that's
simply beautiful.
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
Excellent color from both the upscan converter and the monitor.
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
There was a left shift on RGB, but it's menu correctable and the RGB picture
settings are saved separately from the composite/s-video settings, so I
haven't had to worry about it.
>
> 10. How old is the set?
>
Upscan converter: 2 and a half years
Monitor: One year, but it was used when I got it.
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
Upscan converter: $190US
Monitor: $15 (heheh...it was at a thrift store.)
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
>
Atrai 2600, Intellivision, Colecovision and various Pong machines through
the rf plug on the back of my DVD player. Famicom/NES and TurboGrafx-16
through composite. Commodore 128, SNES, Jaguar, 3DO and N64 through
s-video. Sega Master System, Genesis/Sega CD/32X, Saturn and Dreamcast
through RGB. Various JAMMA configurations through the PCB RGB input. And
Dreamcast (plus my PC) through VGA.
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
I'm in the US, so I guess all my consoles are import to you guys. The
upscan converter handles 60Hz NTSC perfectly and outputs a 640x480 60Hz VGA
image. It also accepts 50Hz PAL and puts out a 800x600 50Hz image. I find
too much flicker in the 50Hz image, I don't like it on a normal TV and it's
even worse on a VGA monitor. Note that the newer XRGB2plus seems to have
had the PAL decoder removed.
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
>
The XRGB-1 had Macrovision issues, but they put a defeater into the XRGB-2
which I have, so no problems.
>
> 16. Any unique features?
>
In addition to the normal VGA output, the XRGB-2 has a second out for NES
PC-9801 and compatible monitors. These would have a lower sync of 15.75,
but still non-interlaced, I believe.
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Yes, in fact, I'm considering an upgrade to the XRGB2plus since it has
component and d-terminal inputs and a few other features.
The HP monitor is good, but not so great that I'll feel the need to get my
next from them as well.
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
I like it a lot. The upscan limits the size of monitor you can have, of
course, since VGA monitors bigger than 22" are ridiculously priced, but for
a college student like me who lives entirely crammed into a tiny bedroom,
it's the perfect set-up.
...sweater fish deluxe...
...word is bondage...
Sweater Fish
>
> 1. Brand?
>
>
> 2. Model No?
>
>
> 3. Screen size?
>
19"
4:3
the rf plug on the back of my DVD player. Famicom through composite.
rich a
>> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>>
>
> Nicam (I suppose that's British for "stereo," eh?). I have it hooked
> into my main stereo system.
NICAM (Near Instantaneous Companded Audio Multiplex) is a system for
transmitting digital audio alongside analogue TV broadcasts. It's really
quite funky (uncompressed 14-bit 32-ish kHz stereo), but is becoming more
redundant since digital TV will make analogue TV redundant in a few years
if the Beeb and the Government have their way. Ho-hum.
No ones probably interested in that, but I think it's a shame that it'll
be made redundant for the badly compressed MP2 streams that digital telly
gives...
Paul
most boring thread ever??????????????????
FatHippy
<y...@btinternet.com> writes
>all snipped
>
>most boring thread ever??????????????????
>
>
suggest that some people think otherwise.
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rich a
> all snipped
>
> most boring thread ever??????????????????
Well although I admit my explanation/rant was a tad-offtopic (sorry for
actually caring about the quality of audio on the telly), I have found the
thread to be quite interesting - especially if we could correlate this
info and people can use it as a rough guide of what kind of telly they
should buy to improve their audio visual experience.
Buying a telly these days is quite a complex affair for gamers - we all
want tellies which support RGB, some of us want ones which will support
NTSC, and we all want tellies which actually display a good picture -
these are the things which you can't ask in your local Currys because the
students who work there haven't got a clue...
Pendragon
"Martin Wilson" <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
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: As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
: are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
: others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
: permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
:
: 1. Brand?
Toshiba
: 2. Model No?
3787DB
: 3. Screen size?
37"
: 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
: 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Dolby Digital surround sound.
: 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
1x RGB, 2x Composite Scart, 2x SVHS (Front/Rear)
: 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Excellent picture quality as far as I'm concerned
: 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
: discolourisation?
Yes
: 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
: and is this correctable via the menu?
There is left shifting on RGB. Not correctable via the menu as far as I'm
aware.
: 10. How old is the set?
3 y/o (?)
: 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£1200(?)
: 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
: like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Still going strong. Picture sometimes just jumps/crackles very slightly, on
occasion - I think this is down to static buildup
: 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
: connected?
SNES (US), PS (UK), N64 (US), DC (US), GC (US)
: 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
: signal properly or are there picture problems?
Yes
: 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
: with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
: brightness variations?
No complaints here.
: 16. Any unique features?
:
: 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes
: 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
:
: 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Have not contacted the shop since purchasing the TV
: 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
The set runs in 50Hz mode, which is a prerequisate for light-gun gaming. A
lot of these new fangled sets come in 100Hz flavours, without a 50Hz mode. I
for one will not buy one of these sets. Love the big picture.
10/10 for gaming.
Wish it some kind of Teletext page memory... it'd make reading Digitiser so
much easier.
: If you use more than one tv please reply twice rather than fill in the
Danny
"Martin Wilson" wrote...
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Toshiba
> 2. Model No?
32ZD09 if memory serves!
> 3. Screen size?
32" (76 cm viewable!)
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen (16x9), Face Flat!
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Dolby Digital Surround, Dolby Pro-Logic Surround, Dolby 3 stereo, NICAM
digital stereo, Digital Surround Processing (DSP) etc...
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
Optical Audio Terminal, Co-axial Audio Terminal, Component Video Input, 3
SCART sockets, Front AV sockets, Sub Woofer terminal, External front speaker
terminals, S-Video compatible, 3.5mm headphone socket!
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Picture quality is excellent, especially for a 100hz Dynamic Frame Scan,
there isn't the usual fuzziness or blurring that you sometimes get.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Totally clean!
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Slight left shift but it's correctable.
> 10. How old is the set?
About 6 - 8 months!
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
I think it was about £1000, I paid the extra for the 32" version.... the 36"
was just a little bit out of my budget range :)
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Totally reliable!
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Mega drive (RF), DC (composite), GC (Composite, RGB soon) all gave excellent
pictures for there respective connection types, can't wait for the GC RGB
connection!
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
Nope, no import
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
It's excellent for DVD's, the sound and picture quality are outstanding!
> 16. Any unique features?
Not really
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Definitely!
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
I've had no problems so far so that hasn't been tested yet!
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9/10
Danny
Pendragon
: : connected?
SNES (US) Composite scart
PS (UK) Composite scart
N64 (US) Composite scart
DC (US) SVHS
GC (US) SVHS
Pendragon
"FatHippy" <{$spamtrap$}@fathippy.net> wrote in message
news:2Skbx2LJ...@fathippy.ntlworld.com...
: In message <am5ev7$fub$1...@venus.btinternet.com>, Paul
: <y...@btinternet.com> writes
: >all snipped
: >
: >most boring thread ever??????????????????
: >
: >
: The 37 posts in this thread that I can see at the time of writing, would
: suggest that some people think otherwise.
It's not the most exciting thread in the world, but I find it interesting to
know what setup others have got.
BobbyG
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
>
> 2. Model No?
A4 Impression
> 3. Screen size?
5ft by 5ft
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Both
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
DTS, Digital, but with the DC surround will suffice.
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
S-VHS
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Pretty damn good.
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Can be a little over exposed.
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes
>
> 10. How old is the set?
3-4 years
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£1000
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Nothing, very reliable
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
DC S-VHS, N64 Scart
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Excellent
> 16. Any unique features?
Nope
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Yes
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
OK
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
8
neal73
2. Model No? PW28006 (or something like that)
3. Screen size? 28"
4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)? Widescreen
5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)? Stereo
6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)? 2 scarts, 1 rf, av&audio
port on side
7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad? Bloody excellent,
nothing bad to report
8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
discolourisation? Clean
9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
and is this correctable via the menu? Use it on widescreen so no shift
noticed
10. How old is the set? 7 months
11. How much did you pay for the set? £259
12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises? totally reliable,
very good
13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
connected? Dreamcast RGB, Gamecube RGB, N64 Svideo
14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
signal properly or are there picture problems? 60hz runs perfectly
15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
brightness variations? Aiwa DVD player runs fine through it
16. Any unique features? usual stuff.
17. Would you buy the same brand again? Yes
18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at? Very
good, online purchase
20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10? 10
michael
2. TC-68PS10A
> 3. Screen size?
27" Quintrix F
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
A2 Stereo
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
1x Component, 2x SVideo (1 front) , 4xComposite (1 front)
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Very good
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
clean
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
no RGB available but it does shift left a bit on composite & S-video in 60hz
mode
> 10. How old is the set?
18 months
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
$1300 AU
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
reliable, no noises,
the set was built for the Australian market hence it has geomagnetic field
adjustment as Australia is so big, using the set in Europe is like having it
upside down apparantly, so it needs degausing by unplugging from wall every
few months.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Dreamcast UK (RF, S-Video)
GameCube UK (Component, Composite)
Nintendo 64 USA (S-video,composite)
Super Famicom JAP (S-video,composite)
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
yes no problems
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Havnt tried DVD yet
> 16. Any unique features?
Silver monitor style cabinet (speakers under set) geomagnetic field
adjustable
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
yes
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
no
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9
Chris Flowers
@venus.btinternet.com:
> all snipped
>
> most boring thread ever??????????????????
>
>
Jealous?
Katana
> be made redundant for the badly compressed MP2 streams that digital telly
> gives...
>
> --
> I'm not your mommy, do you know? Can't you see?
Although luckily enough, the the Sky Plus digibox comes with a digital
optical out which means that for those of us with the right setup, we'll be
able to enjoy TV with surround sound.
And although you may not think that many programs are shown in surround,
look closely at the end credits - the X-Files, Stargate SG1 & the Simpsons
are all broadcast in Dolby Surround, we just haven't had the technology to
access it.
Katana
> 1. Brand?
Sony
> 2. Model No?
LS28-FQ75
> 3. Screen size?
28"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
All - widescreen, 4:3 & smart
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
4 - 3 scarts (1 of which is RGB) & S-Video at the front. Also composite &
stereo inputs in front.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Outstanding - the DRC-MF chip inside double the horizontal lines to 1250
from 625 giving amazingly detailed picures.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Nope - bright & crisp on everything.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Don't know
> 10. How old is the set?
1.5yrs
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
About £1200. The 32" version is now down to an outstanding £999 from the
original £1369!
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
The on/off button is a touch ropey - you switch it on only to find that it's
turned itself off again...
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Xbox & Gamecube - box via S-Video & GC via Scart composite.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
n/a
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Handles DVD's perfectly.
> 16. Any unique features?
The ability to change between 50Hz & 100Hz automatically & the DRC-MF chip
as mentioned above.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
n/a
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
n/a
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9 (32" would be perfect!)
Martin Wilson
I started it with the idea that it would help gamers choose a tv. Am I
wrong? Also nice to know what people are using I'm about middle in the
pecking order so far ;-)
Slim Dusty
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Teac
> 2. Model No?
EU 6429 (or something)
> 3. Screen size?
80cm
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Dolby
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 x scart (back), AV back, S-vid (back) AV + S-vid (front)
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
All good
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Good and clean
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
No shift
>
> 10. How old is the set?
2 years
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
$1100 AUD
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
All good
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Gamecube (RGB Scart), Playstation (AV)
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
PAL system, 60Hz is great!
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
DVDs cause horizontal lines on 16:9 top and bottom of picture, but I don't
notice it now.
> 16. Any unique features?
It's huge!
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
Lines on dvd
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes, it had a mark so I got it cheap (the mark wiped off).
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8/10. If it didn't have the lines it would get a 9.5
Gav
> Although luckily enough, the the Sky Plus digibox comes with a digital
> optical out which means that for those of us with the right setup, we'll be
> able to enjoy TV with surround sound.
You're able to 'enjoy TV with surround sound' right now (and have
been for a good few years) as most modern TV series and films are
encoded in Dolby Surround which is an analogue format, designed to
work over the stereo outputs of your device. It's not as good as
Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS, but it still sounds better than stereo with
properly encoded material.
> And although you may not think that many programs are shown in surround,
> look closely at the end credits - the X-Files, Stargate SG1 & the Simpsons
> are all broadcast in Dolby Surround, we just haven't had the technology to
> access it.
Is this a troll? Dolby Surround as I mentioned above is an
ANALOGUE format and can work with anything that has a stereo audio
output - satellite receivers, VCRs even game consoles. It's been
around for years. I even remember some old Amiga games having Dolby
Surround encoding in their sound fx.
Gav
Mark A
>
> Although luckily enough, the the Sky Plus digibox comes with a digital
> optical out which means that for those of us with the right setup,
> we'll be able to enjoy TV with surround sound.
>
> And although you may not think that many programs are shown in
> surround, look closely at the end credits - the X-Files, Stargate SG1
> & the Simpsons are all broadcast in Dolby Surround, we just haven't
> had the technology to access it.
They're all mastered using Dolby Pro-Logic not Dolby Digital, so any
stereo pair fed to a Pro-Logic amp (or built in TV decoder) has been
able to get Pro-Logic surround sound for the last five years or more.
Thus far in the UK only Sky have broadcast any genuine Dolby Digital,
and even then not very oten. Just the odd film or two on the widescreen
movie channel.
Regards
Mark
Lanny
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> Typedy Typed:
>1. Brand?
Panasonic
>2. Model No?
The 28" Non-Widescreen Black Prologic one :)
>3. Screen size?
28"
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Prologic
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
AV1 Scart
AV2/(RGB) Scart
AV3 Front phono input
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Good picture quality, no nasty curves or colour runs etc.
Im a brightness up, contrast down, colour in the middle man though :)
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Clean
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
Not seen a problem yet.
>10. How old is the set?
3 years?
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
£350 With stand + speakers
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
No
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
Megadrive RF
Psone RGB
DC RGB
PS2 Scart
Xbox Scart
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
PSone was fine.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
Works well, but i have only used ps2 for dvds, so i dont know how it
compares
>16. Any unique features?
All speaker connections available to upgrade speakers directly powered
from TV. Trip to Richersounds provide ample Floorstanders for it :)
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Definetly
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
NA
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes Top - Bennetts
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8 - Only let down by its size nowadays.
Trooper
>"Martin Wilson" wrote...
>> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>>
>> 1. Brand?
>
Panasonic
>
>> 2. Model No?
>
PTAE100 projector
>
>> 3. Screen size?
>
110" currently (variable)
>
>> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
16:9 widescreen
>
>> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
none of any note on the projector, connected up to a separate DD/DTS system)
>> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
VGA, S-Video, composite, component
>
>> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
excellent quality for a projector, slight screen door effect if you get too
close
>
>> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>> discolourisation?
>
slight discolouration on the top left and bottom right corners
>
>> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
LCD so not really applicable, convergence and geometry is perfect.
>
>> 10. How old is the set?
>
6 months
>
>> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
£1285
>
>> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
second one as first one was faulty, this one has an annoying flicker running on
low power, so it's going back as soon as I can be arsed.
>
>> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>> connected?
>
xbox, dreamcast, gamecube, ps2. All connected via RGB into an RGB-to-svideo
convertor, which then connected to a Pro-V progressive scan upscaler and from
that into the VGA input of the projector!
>
>> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>> signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
No import consoles, but I do run import games in 60Hz without problems
>
>> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>> brightness variations?
>
excellent for dvds
>
>> 16. Any unique features?
>
BIG screen!
>
>> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
yes
>
>> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>>
>> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
excellent, they replaced my first set with no problem and are happy to fix or
replace my current.
>
>> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
9/10 when it works correctly.
7/10 overall considering the reliabilty problems.
T.
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includes GBA, GC, XBOX, Dreamcast, PS2, PC, DVDs,
samba de amigo boxset, akira tin etc...
michael
"rich a" <sup4l3...@aol.com> wrote in message
> Buying a telly these days is quite a complex affair for gamers
it has been ever since imports became popular in the early 90's
> we all want tellies which support RGB, some of us want ones which will
support NTSC, and we all want tellies which actually display a good
picture -
the good news is that all 'good' TV's have RGB these days, and as always the
Jap ones do NTSC
> these are the things which you can't ask in your local Currys because the
> students who work there haven't got a clue...
things never change
Mike Robinson
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs are
> for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so others can
> be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time permitting
> please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Commodore (monitor, not TV)
> 2. Model No?
1084S-D
> 3. Screen size?
14 inch (13 inch viewable)
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Cambridge Soundworks FPS1500 (4.1 surround, but connected to both PS2 and
PC so really 2.1)
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
RGB and composite (no SCART)
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Quite sharp picture, poor geometry by standards of modern monitors but
average by TV standards, minimal flicker at 60Hz (less than modern
monitors designed for higher refresh rates), noticeable flicker at 50Hz.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Good color.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
Horizontal shift correctable via dial on front, horizontal width NOT
correctable and slightly too wide, missing some picture.
> 10. How old is the set?
Over 12 years.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£25. (second hand)
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Standard high pitched buzzing noise, no worse than normal TVs.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they connected?
PSX, PS2, connected using RGB with LM1881 sync separator.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz signal
> properly or are there picture problems?
Chipped PSX, US import PS2, both run perfectly. 60Hz looks significantly
better than 50Hz because of less flicker.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive with
> varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture brightness
> variations?
Not used with DVDs, already got a 19inch PC monitor that gives better
quality than any TV I've seen.
> 16. Any unique features?
No.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes, but only if I couldn't afford something better.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
N/A
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
N/A
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
6/10
Icarus ^i^
:: "Icarus ^i^" <dante...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
I guess there's no point in returning my set for a checkup then. Too bad,
cos once u've noticed the lines during a movie they get pretty distracting
:)
Does anyone know if these lines look the same as the ones with Sony
Trinitron tubes report? Philips use similar technique?
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Lisa Simpson: Because they discovered gold right over there! Homer
Simpson: It's because they're stupid, that's why. That's why everybody
does everything.
Mike Kay
> norab wrote:
> :: "Icarus ^i^" <dante...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> :: news:am4p61$2ktti$1...@ID-101304.news.dfncis.de...
> ::
> :: <snip>
> ::
> ::::: 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to
> ::::: mention like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
> :::
> ::: Two faint, vertical lines only visible on dark backgrounds during
> ::: DVD playback. I've seen other people report it and it seems I have
> ::: to live with it. No big problem.
this is a total guess so is probably wrong but it isnt somethink akin to
the horizontal trinitron lines you get with FST TV's & monitors is it?
michael
> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
Looking at the fact that many people choose their TV on the basis of how
good they work with a console, it should be acceptable for people to buy a
SVGA monitor for console use, the Dreamcast on a PC monitor is far superior,
it really shows that the main advantage a PC has (graphics wise) is actually
down to the monitor.
We should be demanding that all consoles come with a genuine VGA option.
Mike Kay
>
> this is a total guess so is probably wrong but it isnt somethink akin to
> the horizontal trinitron lines you get with FST TV's & monitors is it?
DOH teach me to read full posts before posting! you mentioned trinitron
lines already.
on my monitor they are 2 very faint lines going across the screen
(horizontal) about 1/3 & 2/3rd of the way up the screen.
they are very faint & only notice them on a white solid screen etc, but
they are definately there.
this may be similar to your vertical lines i dunno.
Mike Kay
> good they work with a console, it should be acceptable for people to buy a
> SVGA monitor for console use, the Dreamcast on a PC monitor is far superior,
> it really shows that the main advantage a PC has (graphics wise) is actually
> down to the monitor.
> We should be demanding that all consoles come with a genuine VGA option.
VGA option maybe, however give me my 28inch TV over 17inch monitor every
day. I think better to campaign for a devent RGB lead out of the box, FFS
with the ps2 & xbox you need a scart socket anyway so may as well make it
a fully wired one.
back to the monitor vs TV
despite what my wife tells me, i firmly believe size matters ;o)
but if you only have a small TV then yes a monitor may well be the way to
go.
Mike Jenkins
I don't think that is quite true.
>We should be demanding that all consoles come with a genuine VGA option.
I would rather play games on a huge TV through RGB SCART that on a
little monitor any day of the week.
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michael
"Mike Jenkins" <notv...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> I would rather play games on a huge TV through RGB SCART that on a
> little monitor any day of the week.
look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors for
that kind of money, you get 21" ers
the advantage of huge TV's is that you can sit further away, like on a comfy
sofa.
rich a
>
> "Mike Jenkins" <notv...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> I would rather play games on a huge TV through RGB SCART that on a
>> little monitor any day of the week.
>
> look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors
> for that kind of money, you get 21" ers
Yes, but they're getting much bigger tellies for the price of a 21"
monitor. Just looking at a website now, and the cheapest 21" monitor I
can see is 350 quid + vat. I had a mate who bought a 28" widescreen telly
for roughly half price a few weeks ago.. I mean, my 21" telly which does
lovely RGB cost about a third of that 350 quid monitor!
> the advantage of huge TV's is that you can sit further away, like on a
> comfy sofa.
And you can watch telly on them.
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17:50:19 +0200, "michael" <none> wrote:
>
>"Mike Jenkins" <notv...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
>> I would rather play games on a huge TV through RGB SCART that on a
>> little monitor any day of the week.
>
>look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors for
>that kind of money, you get 21" ers
21" may be a large monitor, but it is a very small tv!
A monitor just isn't the preferred medium for 99% of the console buying public
IMHO
michael
"Mike Kay" <m...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message
> VGA option maybe, however give me my 28inch TV over 17inch monitor every
> day. I think better to campaign for a devent RGB lead out of the box, FFS
> with the ps2 & xbox you need a scart socket anyway so may as well make it
> a fully wired one.
> back to the monitor vs TV
> despite what my wife tells me, i firmly believe size matters ;o)
>
> but if you only have a small TV then yes a monitor may well be the way to
> go.
so have you tried both?
a 27" Quintrix Flat TV v 19" monitor, the monitor gives awesome quality on
the DC, much prefered than the TV although you have to sit closer, fair
enough if a game has good enough gameplay then quality doesnt matter, which
is what we all hope for these days anyway.
michael
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> In article <3d874ee9$0$205$ba62...@news.skynet.be>, on Tue, 17 Sep 2002
> 17:50:19 +0200, "michael" <none> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mike Jenkins" <notv...@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> >> I would rather play games on a huge TV through RGB SCART that on a
> >> little monitor any day of the week.
> >
> >look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors for
> >that kind of money, you get 21" ers
>
> 21" may be a large monitor, but it is a very small tv!
>
> A monitor just isn't the preferred medium for 99% of the console buying
public
> IMHO
because only one console offers the option (maybe 2 with xbox)
this thread proves console buyers care enough about the TV to spend a lot of
money, although most seem to think that size matters.
Da Wrecka
>> look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors
>> for that kind of money, you get 21" ers
>
> 21" may be a large monitor, but it is a very small tv!
The primary reason for the price difference between monitors and TVs is that monitors
generally use a higher-quality CRT than TVs. This comes at a price to your pocket but
gives higher dot pitch = higher quality images. And 21" may be a small TV because
you're supposed to sit further away from it. Sit at the same distance away from a 21"
TV and 21" monitor and it becomes inconsequential.
> A monitor just isn't the preferred medium for 99% of the console
> buying public IMHO
Perhaps. But let's face it, how much would it cost to allow true VGA rendering on
console X? Sega managed it with the Dreamcast, and they didn't have anywhere near the
budget of Sony or Microsoft.
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TV. That output carries a Dolby Digital 5.1 signal and is only used on some
of the movie channels, some of the time. The TV programmes which are
credited as "Dolby Surround" are in fact plain old Dolby Prologic and that
works just fine by connecting the phono outputs from your "ordinary" digibox
(or from the TV connected to it via a SCART lead) into a Prologic amplifier.
I have my TV connected this way all the time and it works perfectly. You'll
notice that The Simpsons etc. say "Dolby Surround where available": this is
because DPL is a normal stereo signal with the extra two channels matrix
encoded into it, so it can be broadcast on a plain stereo system. If ya
ain't got stereo then you won't get DPL, hence the disclaimer. I have the
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ThePunisher
> 1. Brand?
Barco
> 2. Model No?
MultiData OCM3346
> 3. Screen size?
33"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Stereo(never used, always use DD/DTS amp instead)
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
RGB, composite, S-Video, VGA, TTL, etc.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Perfect
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Perfect colour
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
All adjustments available (just like a PC monitor)
> 10. How old is the set?
1994
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£150 (£3500 new)
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Slight buzz on startup goes away after about 10 mins.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Playstation RGB, Sega Saturn RGB, Dreamcast VGA, PS2 RGB, Gamecube RGB, Xbox RGB, PC VGA.
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No import consoles
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Very Macrovision sensitive picture is totally unwatchable, only use a macro free dvd player.
> 16. Any unique features?
Progressive scan, VGA, and very heavy.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
For £150 yes :-)
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
Price
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Private sale.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9 (loses 1 point for Macrovision)
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>Looking at the fact that many people choose their TV on the basis of how
>good they work with a console, it should be acceptable for people to buy a
>SVGA monitor for console use, the Dreamcast on a PC monitor is far superior,
>it really shows that the main advantage a PC has (graphics wise) is actually
>down to the monitor.
>We should be demanding that all consoles come with a genuine VGA option.
No thanks - I'd rather sit on a couch and watch a 28" telly than
hunch over a monitor screen to play DC games.
Gav
Adrian Down
available (seem to recall I blew about Ł2k on it) and the 2 faint lines
running across drove me mad. I was told they are some sort of fixing wire
inherent in a monitor or screen of this type and there is nothing that can
be done about it.
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>
> excellent quality for a projector, slight screen door effect if you get
too
> close
Eh? Please explain.
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> As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Samsung
> 2. Model No?
WS-24W63N
> 3. Screen size?
24"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Scarts (1 RGB), front composite jacks.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Good picture.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Slight magnetic colouring on right side that won't degauss itself.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
No left shift.
> 10. How old is the set?
4 months
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£200?
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Reliable so far except makes all RGB signals 16:9 with no way of
correcting it.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
Snes - RGB Scart & Composite
N64 - Composite
Saturn - RGB Scart
Dreamcast - RGB Scart
Gamecube - RGB Scart
Xbox - RGB Scart
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
No problems with 60Hz.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
All seems OK.
> 16. Any unique features?
Nothing too spectacular.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8
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>
>
> 2. Model No?
Eerm, I dunno, I rented it. Bog-standard I reckon
>
> 3. Screen size?
21"
>
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen.
>
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam, although I don't use it at all (feed outputs from digibox, consoles
etc to stereo hifi
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
Let's see.. 1xRGB SCART, 1xSCART, composite and SVHS (molded into one
channel) inputs on front.
>
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Well, I haven't seen DVDs or Xbox on any great televisions, and once I got
RGB SCART leads for all my consoles, I've been pretty damn pleased with it.
>
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
It was discoloured but only when I was feeding my SCARTs through the shitty
digibox.
>
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
A slight left shift, but nothing goes off the edge. And I can just go to the
AV1 channel (instead of the RGB) channel and it still stays in the RGB mode
but shoves the picture back.
If by bad convergence, you mean straight, high-contrast lines not being
straight (such as the edges of the menus in SSX Tricky), then I have bad
convergence. It may well be down to the unofficial RGB SCART cable I'm using
with the 'box though.
>
>
> 10. How old is the set?
>
It looks quite new, but as I say, it's a rental, so I don't have a clue.
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
Well I paid the first month off a year ago. I keep meaning to go pay the
rest but you know, it would cost me money.
>
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
LOPT buzz? If that's buzz around text etc, that is there with anything but
RGB SCART. But I don't use that anymore, for anything. So no worries.. Oh
you mean audio buzz. No, I don't use the sound on it.
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
PS2 (S-Video), Xbox (initially S-Video, then RGB SCART - BIG improvement),
GameCube (RGB SCART).
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
I don't run an import console but it copes with PAL60 mode and NTSC DVDs
absolutely perfectly. (runs over and strokes telly, apologising for not
paying for it)
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
It works excellently with DVDs.
>
> 16. Any unique features?
I broke the front flap on it. And it has two homers on the speakers.
>
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Nope. When I *buy*, I buy Sony. Even though their customer service is shit.
I've been waiting 3 months for my beloved MiniDisc.
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
see 17
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes although I suspect if I walked in there without a million quid, I'd be
shot.
>
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
It's my telly, so 8. But one day I'll have the best telly ever and I'll look
back and think "-1".
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>
> "Mike Kay" <m...@sanger.ac.uk> wrote in message
>
> > VGA option maybe, however give me my 28inch TV over 17inch monitor every
> > day. I think better to campaign for a devent RGB lead out of the box, FFS
> > with the ps2 & xbox you need a scart socket anyway so may as well make it
> > a fully wired one.
>
>
> > back to the monitor vs TV
> > despite what my wife tells me, i firmly believe size matters ;o)
> >
> > but if you only have a small TV then yes a monitor may well be the way to
> > go.
>
> so have you tried both?
not as such, but have seen GTA3 on the PC which is superior to my ps2
counter part in just about every way, but would still pick the ps2 version
just becasue of big screan telly & played a few games on a TV out graphics
card on a telly.
i guess i am just a big screen hoar
Trooper
17:51:28 GMT, "Da Wrecka" <da_wre...@BGONEblueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>Trooper <momoneym...@yahoo.com> scribbled:
>>> look what people are spending on TV's , you dont get little monitors
>>> for that kind of money, you get 21" ers
>>
>> 21" may be a large monitor, but it is a very small tv!
>
>The primary reason for the price difference between monitors and TVs is that monitors
>generally use a higher-quality CRT than TVs. This comes at a price to your pocket but
>gives higher dot pitch = higher quality images. And 21" may be a small TV because
>you're supposed to sit further away from it. Sit at the same distance away from a 21"
>TV and 21" monitor and it becomes inconsequential.
>
I'm well aware of the differences in monitor and and TV tube quality.
Consoles aren't about sitting hunched over 2 inches away from a monitor though.
Consoles are mass market entertainment, and as much as we, the "hardcore" gaming
community, like to believe the games companies make products for our benefit,
they don't. Hardware is produced to work against TVs as that's what the mass
market want to use them with.
Trooper
21:35:12 +0100, "Oliver Haslam" <ojhanos...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> excellent quality for a projector, slight screen door effect if you get
>too
>> close
>
>Eh? Please explain.
>
>
screen door, chicken wire etc...
LCD projectors are made up of a grid of pixels, if you get close enough to the
screen you can see the individual pixels within the grid, much like looking at a
newspaper image close-up and seeing the individual dots.
It looks like you looking at the image through a screen door, hence the name.
The panny has a relatively low pixel resolution, meaning larger pixels for an
image running at the same size as a more expensive projector with a higher
resolution.
Sweater Fish
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Eh, this is a can of worms best left unopened. It's simply a matter of
preference, some people prefer bid screens, some people prefer the amazing
clarity of VGA. Personally, I would prefer to have a large screen (but only
if it's going to be larger than 35"), but given my current circumstances, it
makes the mst sense for me to have just a VGA monitor. I've got a set-up
that I quite like with a 19" monitor and my couch set up close enough that I
can sit on it for gaming (and Internet actually) and still have a perfectly
large display. Like I said, though, it's nothing more than personal
preference. The point is moot anyway, since consoles starting with this
generation include options for high-definition progressive, which offers the
best of both worlds...to those who can afford it.
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>
Eh, this is a can of worms best left unopened. It's simply a matter of
Si...
1. Brand?
Nokia
2. Model No?
?
3. Screen size?
29"
4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3
5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Pro-logic
6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 x scarts
7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Very good
8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
discolourisation?
Clean
9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
and is this correctable via the menu?
Yes, no.
10. How old is the set?
6 - 7 years
11. How much did you pay for the set?
£630
12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
No problems
13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
connected?
SNES - RF
Saturn - Scart
N64 - Scart
Dreamcast - RGB Scart
Gamecube - RGB Scart
14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
signal properly or are there picture problems?
No
15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
brightness variations?
Excellent
16. Any unique features?
Can be set up to be kind of anamorphic widescreen, even though it's a 4:3
17. Would you buy the same brand again?
No.
18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
They don't make TVs anymore. Phones nowadays!
19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
No.
20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
8 (losses 2 points because it's a relatively modern set, with a real good
picture, with no detoriation after 6 years, but it has no 60hz option.
If you use more than one tv please reply twice rather than fill in the
same answers mentioning both sets together. The more replies we get
the more we will know about the different brands. Obviously if your
not interested fair enough but you don't see many tv reviews directly
related to gaming use so I think it will be helpful.
JigsawMan
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
This is a monitor, not a TV - but I LOVE it for gaming purposes as I
can easily rotate the screen. I had to unscrew the rotation mechanism
and flip it around so that Tate mode games play the right way up. Thi
is the perfect setup for 2d shooting heaven!
>1. Brand?
Iiyama
>2. Model No?
AS4637UT BK
>3. Screen size?
18" TFT
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
4:3 / 3:4 (rotatable)
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
N/A
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 rear DVI and 1 rear S-Video
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Natural Resolution of 1280x1024 = 10/10 Had to turn the brightness
way down tostop it hurting my eyes!
Lower Resolution and S-Video input is the best Ihave seen on a TFT
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Clean across image
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
No RGB
>10. How old is the set?
2 Months
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
£752 INC VAT
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
3 stuck pixels, although it took me 2 days to find them! and I don;t
notice them at all
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
Saturn, Dreamcast and PS2 by S-Video. Dreamcast with VGA box
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
Yes: No problems
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
Perfect
>16. Any unique features?
It rotates! Great for those Tate mode 2d shooters!
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Absolutely, definitely.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
simply Computers (www.simply.com) 100% perfect service.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9.5
JigsawMan
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
Sony
>2. Model No?
KV-28FXKU
>3. Screen size?
28"
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
16:9
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Rear SCART (1x RGB, 1x Svideo-SCART)
1 front S-Video
1 front Composite
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Crisp, beautiful display. Not much wrong with it!
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
Clear!
>
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
No convergance
>10. How old is the set?
2.5 years
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
£650
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Slight squeel from the set appeared after 2 years. Turn it off or
change channel and it goes.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
PC Engine, Saturn, SNES, N64, Dreamcast PS2. PC Engine, PS2, DC and
Saturn all with RGB and also S-video. SNES and N64 S-video and
Composite.
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
Yes. Import PCE, Saturn and DC at PAL-60. Works with no problems.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
Superb with my Sony 525
>16. Any unique features?
Totally flat screen so you can use it as a mirror when putting your
tie on.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Yes (Sony TV's are good, I don't like anything else they make other
than their walkmans).
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yes (www.hed.co.uk) 10/10
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
9/10 when compared to 'normal' 50/60hz TV sets (I had a 24" WS Sony
before)
Obviously this would not compare to a £7k set!
Jim Taylor
> 1. Brand?
Philips
> 2. Model No?
28PW and then I forget the rest.
> 3. Screen size?
28"
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
Widescreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
Nicam
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
2 Scarts (1 RGB), S-video & composite on side.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
Generally good picture, but slight "curving" at sides.
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
Clean across.
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
No left shift.
> 10. How old is the set?
2 years.
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£440
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
Popping sound on certain high freuqencies. Plus it's just had to go in
for repair as the processor failed.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
N64 - Composite
Gamecube - RGB Scart
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
60Hz seems to crop the top and bottom off the screen.
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Works very well.
> 16. Any unique features?
Pseudo surround sound.
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
Probably.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Not particularly, it took ages to arrive. However I did get a free DVD
player as well. They've gone under now so it's all moot anyway.
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
7
oi
> are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
> 1. Brand?
Phillips
>
> 2. Model No?
Think its 28PW6516 its not the 100hz one, did'nt fancy that after seeing
blocky problems
Mate has the 32" version and its supurb.
>
> 3. Screen size?
28" flat screen
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
WideScreen
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
Virtual Dolby sounds good, but put the PS2 through Sony surround sound via
optical link.
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
2 scart, 2 SVid one handy one at side of TV, nice.
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
Excellent picture, top on DVD's, slight blockyness
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> discolourisation?
>
A little with PS2
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> and is this correctable via the menu?
>
??????????
> 10. How old is the set?
1 year
>
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set?
£650 ?? ish
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
no noise, touch wood no problems yet.
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> connected?
PS2 - Svideo
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> signal properly or are there picture problems?
NA
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> brightness variations?
Its great with Panasonic DVD player
> 16. Any unique features?
Comes on COOOOOL silver stand with glass shelves.
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
O yes, it rocks.
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
Yeh, pretty good at Currys
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
8
pup
"JigsawMan" <us...@host.net> wrote in message
news:035noug56rdpl2u5t...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:58:26 +0100, Martin Wilson
> <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> >are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> >others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> >permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
> >
> This is a monitor, not a TV - but I LOVE it for gaming purposes as I
> can easily rotate the screen. I had to unscrew the rotation mechanism
> and flip it around so that Tate mode games play the right way up. Thi
> is the perfect setup for 2d shooting heaven!
>
> >1. Brand?
>
> Iiyama
>
> >2. Model No?
>
> AS4637UT BK
Jigsaw, I remember last year you didnt rate LCD's for gaming, what changed
your mind and how do you conect up a DC VGA box?
this monitor is listed at £869 inc vat how did you manage 759?
tv studio
FANTASTIC (IMHO) news forum at http://www.avforums.co.uk they cater for
everything av and give reviews etc for almost anything you want. BTW i do not
run the site.
Chris wrote:
> "Martin Wilson" <mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:90obou8i7fcfjn45t...@4ax.com...
> > As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
> > are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
> > others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
> > permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
> >
> > 1. Brand?
> >
> Toshiba
> >
> > 2. Model No?
> 15V11B
> >
> > 3. Screen size?
>
> 15" (totally flat)
> >
> >
> > 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
> 4:3
> >
> >
> > 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
> mono (everything is conected via a surround sound decoder so mono didnt
> bother me)
> >
> > 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
> 2 scarts 1 (believe only 1 had rgb, maybe i am wrong) front input, 1
> headphones
> >
> >
> > 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
> excellent, great colour, very clear, beats my old sony 16"wide (which broke)
> >
> >
> > 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
> > discolourisation?
> not noticed any at all
> >
> >
> > 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
> > and is this correctable via the menu?
> slight shift, not corectable via menu, no shift noticible on dvdrecorder
> with rgb out
>
> >
> >
> > 10. How old is the set?
> lol, my old 1 broke so this is a mere 5 days old
> >
> >
> > 11. How much did you pay for the set?
> 170
> >
> >
> > 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
> > like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
> none, which makes a nice break from my ex sony set
> >
> > 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
> > connected?
> ps2 > scart
> gc > scart
> n64 > rf
> dc > rf
>
> dvd, dvdrecorder, vhs all scart
>
> >
> > 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
> > signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
> 60hz on dvds and games works perfectly
> >
> > 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> > with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
> > brightness variations?
> no problem there
> >
> > 16. Any unique features?
> its ickle! but not a crappy fish bowl screen, totaly flat, and 15" tvs are
> quite rare, 14 too small 17+" too big for my room!
> >
> >
> > 17. Would you buy the same brand again?
> yes, but would depend on the models avaliable at that time etc
> >
> > 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
> >
> > 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
> yes!! arived in 23 hours after ordering =o)
> >
> > 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
> 9
tv studio
Kez
> Can I make a suggestion? ....all flamers will be
> extinguished.......There is a FANTASTIC (IMHO) news forum at
> http://www.avforums.co.uk they cater for everything av and give
> reviews etc for almost anything you want. BTW i do not run the site.
>
well in my opinion cubed is the best GC forum out. CUBED!!! not avforums. i
bet you do run it! yeah? yeah? YEAH?!?!?! ah well.
--
Check out http://www.cubed.2ya.com for the latest chunks of news and
info on the gamecube!
Martin Wilson
<mart...@ukonline.co.uk> wrote:
>As an attempt to have the definitive thread relating to how good tvs
>are for console purposes I'd like people to rate their tellies so
>others can be warned of problems or go with recommendations. So time
>permitting please answer some or all of these questions;
>
>1. Brand?
>
Sharp
>2. Model No?
>
28W53H
>3. Screen size?
>
28" widescreen
>4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)?
>
16:9
>5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)?
>
nicam with a 2 side speakers and a forward facing midrange/bass
speaker.
>6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)?
>
>
3 scarts, 1 RGB, 1 S-video, 1 just composite plus front av inputs.
>7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad?
>
>
On normal television broadcasts its quite good
>8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>discolourisation?
>
>
colour clean
>9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>and is this correctable via the menu?
>
convergence and geometry are good. Awful left shift and the right
border can be seen and peaks and troughs with the brightness of the
image. Truly terrible. A service engineer came and adjustments made to
in the service menu don't effect rgb images only
tuner/composite/s-video. A totally hopeless set for rgb use.
>10. How old is the set?
>
2 weeks.
>11. How much did you pay for the set?
>
£483 including a dvd player, nicam video, surround hifi and cabinet.
>12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>like LOPT buzz or any other slightly annoying noises?
>
Its totally crap and going back for a refund. Luckily I'm getting to
keep the dvd player for free for my hassle.
>13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>connected?
>
dc and xbox tried via rgb.
>14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>signal properly or are there picture problems?
>
The sharp has problems with both via rgb. It can't do 60hz properly
and the picture judders.
>15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
>with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>brightness variations?
>
The sharp has problems with everything it seems unless you give it a
perfect 50hz signal.
>16. Any unique features?
>
>
Nice looking set and good remote.
>17. Would you buy the same brand again?
>
Nope. Stay clear they are totally crap.
>18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't?
>
The set is both poorly designed (rgb scart problems) and poorly made.
Literally thrown together in spain. Service engineer said the tube was
fu**ed and recommended replacement. He said Sharp sets have many
problems and a short term live. This contrasts with sharp video
recorders which are just about the most reliable and have excellent
picture quality but then they aren't made in spain.
>19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at?
>
Fantastic. Getting to keep the dvd player for free for my trouble. Its
all region and macrovision free too thanks to me updating the
firmware.
>20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10?
>
2 out of 10 for those who are just going to watch terrestial tv only.
Sound was very nice. Makes Bush/Goodmans look like Bang and Ofluson.
>
>
Brother Walfrid
> 1. Brand? SONY
>
>
> 2. Model No? WEGA TRINITON KV-something
>
>
> 3. Screen size? 32"
>
>
> 4. Aspect (tube type widescreen or 4:3)? WIDESCREEN
>
>
> 5. Sound system (mono, nicam, prologic etc)? NICAM
>
>
> 6. AV Inputs (how many scarts, front inputs etc)? 2 SCARTS AT REAR HEADPHONE INPUT AT FRONT
>
>
> 7. General view of picture quality and whats good and bad? TOP
>
>
> 8. Is the colour clean across the image or have you got
>
>
> 9. Is the convergence good to you get a left shift on RGB scart images
>
>
> 10. How old is the set? 1 YEAR
>
>
> 11. How much did you pay for the set? £800
>
>
> 12. Has it been reliable or are there any issues you'd like to mention
>
> 13. Which consoles have you used on the set and how were they
>
> 14. Do you run an import console and if so does it frame the 60hz
>
> 15. Does the set work well with dvds or is it macrovision sensitive
> with varying brightness and screen judder with intense picture
>
> 16. Any unique features? NO BUT I WISH IT HAD A RADIO
>
>
> 17. Would you buy the same brand again? YES
>
> 18. If not what was the main reason you wouldn't? N/A
>
> 19. Did you get good customer service from the shop you bought it at? YES £300 OFF FOR HARD CASH
>
> 20. Overall verdict for this set out of 10? 11 I WOULDN'T SWOP IT FOR ANYTHING I'VE SEEN SINCE
>
>