Discourse

[Joyce Whitchurch]

Just out of interest, how many of the occasional visitors to this ng are now contributing to CAMRA's "Discourse" message board? Or lurking there?
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Joyce Whitchurch, Stalybridge, UK
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[Offramp]

Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.

[Joyce Whitchurch]

On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
>
> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.

You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>. You need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail address registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute to Discourse.

[Julian Macassey]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Joyce Whitchurch
<joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
>>
>> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.

> You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>.
> You need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail
> address registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute
> to Discourse.

I can post here without having to disclose my working
e-mail address or joining CAMRA. So what do I gain by giving ip
my privacy?


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"If you have done nothing wrong, comrade, you have nothing to fear."
- Lavrenti Beria, Stalin's head of the NKVD, the secret police.

[Someone Somewhere]

On 15/09/2017 16:32, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Joyce Whitchurch
> <joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
>>>
>>> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.
>
>> You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>.
>> You need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail
>> address registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute
>> to Discourse.
>
> I can post here without having to disclose my working
> e-mail address or joining CAMRA. So what do I gain by giving ip
> my privacy?
>
>

Membership of CAMRA and a smug feeling of being part of an "exclusive"
club...

I don't see why discussion shouldn't be open - CAMRA membership has
other benefits and being part of a closed talking shop online shouldn't
really be one of them.

[Offramp]

On Friday, 15 September 2017 16:32:48 UTC+1, Julian Macassey wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Joyce Whitchurch
> <joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
> >>
> >> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.
>
> > You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>.
> > You need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail
> > address registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute
> > to Discourse.
>
> I can post here without having to disclose my working
> e-mail address or joining CAMRA. So what do I gain by giving ip
> my privacy?

I agree. I'd rather post here!

[Joyce Whitchurch]

The sad fact remains that posts to this ng are few and far between. I get the impression that CAMRA members no longer post here, myself excepted. Perhaps there are still CAMRA members lurking here, or perhaps not.

FWIW, I don't find Discourse much busier, with just a handful of people repeating themselves over and over again. (OK, so that's pretty much like Usenet then. But with fancy graphics.)

[Julian Macassey]

On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 02:44:01 -0700 (PDT), Joyce Whitchurch
<joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> The sad fact remains that posts to this ng are few and far between. I get the
> impression that CAMRA members no longer post here, myself excepted. Perhaps
> there are still CAMRA members lurking here, or perhaps not.
>
> FWIW, I don't find Discourse much busier, with just a handful of people
> repeating themselves over and over again. (OK, so that's pretty much like Usenet
> then. But with fancy graphics.)

I find most web forums consume more bandwith (fancy graphics) and less
user control. This helps with communication?

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If we can find the money to kill people, we can find the money to
help people. Anthony Wedgwood Benn

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:02:09 +0100, Joyce Whitchurch <joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
>>
>> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.
>
> You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>. You need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail address registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute to Discourse.

Seems pretty dull to me.


Looks as if CAMRA have adopted "craft" beer de facto (I may have missed the announcement as such);
keg beer appeared at the Cardiff^w Great Welsh Beer Festival recently.
NuCamra anybody?


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Bah, and indeed, Humbug

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

PS where's the big campaign highlighting pub closures and the questionable ombudsman?

[Andy Leighton]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:42:12 +0100, Kerr-Mudd,John <ad...@127.0.0.1> wrote:

Keg beer? Or proper unpasteurised, unfiltered, beer using a key-keg
system?

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[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com> wrote in
news:slrnotdfac...@azaal.plus.com:

> On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:42:12 +0100, Kerr-Mudd,John <ad...@127.0.0.1>
> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:02:09 +0100, Joyce Whitchurch
>> <joyce.wh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, 15 September 2017 05:47:46 UTC+1, Offramp wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not me. I've never heard of it. I may have a look for it later.
>>>
>>> You can find it here: <https://discourse.camra.org.uk/login>. You
>>> need to be a member of CAMRA and also have a working e-mail address
>>> registered with CAMRA if you want to read or contribute to
>>> Discourse.
>>
>>
>> Seems pretty dull to me.
>>
>>
>> Looks as if CAMRA have adopted "craft" beer de facto (I may have
>> missed the announcement as such); keg beer appeared at the Cardiff^w
>> Great Welsh Beer Festival recently. NuCamra anybody?
>
> Keg beer? Or proper unpasteurised, unfiltered, beer using a key-keg
> system?
>

Chilled, no secondary fermentation, carbonated. It's keg to me.


PS I like your sig!

[Andy Leighton]

That sounds pretty grim. We have no traditional keg at our local
beer festival (Peterborough). We do have KeyKeg - which does have
beers which undergo secondary fermentation, and are not artificially
carbonated by CO2.

However there are two problems with KeyKeg for me - the beers are
too chilled, and too expensive.

[Offramp]

On Friday, 6 October 2017 14:53:21 UTC+1, Andy Leighton wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 09:19:23 -0000 (UTC), Kerr-Mudd,John <nots...@invalid.org> wrote:
> > Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com> wrote in
> > news:slrnotdfac...@azaal.plus.com:
> >
> >> On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:42:12 +0100, Kerr-Mudd,John <ad...@127.0.0.1>
> >> wrote:
> >>> Looks as if CAMRA have adopted "craft" beer de facto (I may have
> >>> missed the announcement as such); keg beer appeared at the Cardiff^w
> >>> Great Welsh Beer Festival recently. NuCamra anybody?
> >>
> >> Keg beer? Or proper unpasteurised, unfiltered, beer using a key-keg
> >> system?
> >>
> > Chilled, no secondary fermentation, carbonated. It's keg to me.
>
> That sounds pretty grim. We have no traditional keg at our local
> beer festival (Peterborough). We do have KeyKeg - which does have
> beers which undergo secondary fermentation, and are not artificially
> carbonated by CO2.
>
> However there are two problems with KeyKeg for me - the beers are
> too chilled, and too expensive.

I am not sure if I am on the right hymnsheet here. Could you give a few examples of KeyKeg beers? I may have had some, but I am not sure.

[Andy Leighton]

A lot of them also exist as ordinary cask beer too. Well beers with the
same name, I don't know if there are tweaks to the recipe for beer
intended for key keg.

The local pub that just does key keg is hosting a Magic Rock takeover.
So 18 of their brews are on at the moment stuff like Salty Kiss, Dancing
Bear, Dark Arts etc. But in the past they have had Thornbridge, Elusive,
Cloudwater, Wild Weather, Beavertown, Bexar County, Weird Beard, 3 Blind
Mice etc.

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com> wrote in

news:slrnotf2mg...@azaal.plus.com:

> On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 09:19:23 -0000 (UTC), Kerr-Mudd,John
> <nots...@invalid.org> wrote:
>> Andy Leighton <an...@azaal.plus.com> wrote in
>> news:slrnotdfac...@azaal.plus.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:42:12 +0100, Kerr-Mudd,John <ad...@127.0.0.1>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Looks as if CAMRA have adopted "craft" beer de facto (I may have
>>>> missed the announcement as such); keg beer appeared at the
>>>> Cardiff^w Great Welsh Beer Festival recently. NuCamra anybody?
>>>
>>> Keg beer? Or proper unpasteurised, unfiltered, beer using a key-keg
>>> system?
>>>
>> Chilled, no secondary fermentation, carbonated. It's keg to me.
>
> That sounds pretty grim. We have no traditional keg at our local
> beer festival (Peterborough). We do have KeyKeg - which does have
> beers which undergo secondary fermentation, and are not artificially
> carbonated by CO2.
>
> However there are two problems with KeyKeg for me - the beers are
> too chilled, and too expensive.
>

That's the Crafty part - charging over the odds!

[Joyce Whitchurch]

On Wednesday, 4 October 2017 22:42:12 UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
>
> Looks as if CAMRA have adopted "craft" beer de facto (I may have missed the announcement as such)

There will be a Great Debate about this at next year's CAMRA National Conference in Warwick. The only announcement that you may have missed would be the one that informed us that certain "key-keg" beers are now considered kosher. Personally I beg to remain Orthodox on this one.

I'm starting to wonder if we may have to rethink the Charter for our little newsgroup, which since time immemorial [1] has been "used for the discussion of Traditional cask or bottle-conditioned beers and the places they are consumed in". See <http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.food+drink.real-ale.html>.

[1] Akshully not immemorial at all. My browser tells me that our Charter was last modified on 20 October 2000 at 11:23:42.

[Arthur Figgis]

On 09/10/2017 12:15, Joyce Whitchurch wrote:

> I'm starting to wonder if we may have to rethink the Charter for our little newsgroup, which since time immemorial [1] has been "used for the discussion of Traditional cask or bottle-conditioned beers and the places they are consumed in". See <http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.food+drink.real-ale.html>.

Split the group!

uk.food+drink.real-ale
uk.food+drink.beer.keg.expensive



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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

[Kerr-Mudd,John]

Arthur Figgis <afi...@example.com.invalid> wrote in
news:P6WdnUOeL9s6zkPE...@brightview.co.uk:

Here,here!
same for CAM better-keg-than-it-used-to-be (but still cold dead and
fizzy)