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graham
Nov 8, 2012, 10:53:06 AM11/8/12
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"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Christmas is coming! I've just ordered the turkey and all the other bits
> and pieces! This feels serious!
> --
> Sacha
>
A major drug store chain started playing xmas muzak the week before last and
had to stop because of customer complaints.
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Ophelia
Nov 8, 2012, 11:06:05 AM11/8/12
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"Sacha" <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Christmas is coming! I've just ordered the turkey and all the other bits
> and pieces! This feels serious!
likely to have!! I remember last year I thought it was just going to be the
two of us, and then (almost) at the last minute, they were all able to
come:)
It only feels like five minutes since last Christmas ...
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Ophelia
Nov 8, 2012, 12:47:49 PM11/8/12
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> I have that 5 minute feeling every year. I know we'll be 10 this year at
> least, with 4 staying and the rest living locally. I suppose it's on my
> mind now because we're about to visit the Jersey family and are taking
> some presents with us for hiding away! Plus the "visiting grandparents"
> presents, as well. Expensive lark this is! However, when I rang the
> butcher they didn't sound at all surprised and had the 'turkey book' up
> and running, so I'm certainly not the first.
:)) When the children were young my planning began when they went back to
school in September. Now? Not until someone like you reminds me, although,
my presents to Germany are always away mid October because youngest grand
daughter's birthday is at the end. I parcel everything up together so they
all go at once. They just might turn up here as they did last year, but I
can't take that chance. As for the rest ... I am sure they will let me know
in due course. Having a large freezer takes away a lot of the worry.
Whatever did we do without freezers and microwaves ... ?
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> least, with 4 staying and the rest living locally. I suppose it's on my
> mind now because we're about to visit the Jersey family and are taking
> some presents with us for hiding away! Plus the "visiting grandparents"
> presents, as well. Expensive lark this is! However, when I rang the
> butcher they didn't sound at all surprised and had the 'turkey book' up
> and running, so I'm certainly not the first.
:)) When the children were young my planning began when they went back to
school in September. Now? Not until someone like you reminds me, although,
my presents to Germany are always away mid October because youngest grand
daughter's birthday is at the end. I parcel everything up together so they
all go at once. They just might turn up here as they did last year, but I
can't take that chance. As for the rest ... I am sure they will let me know
in due course. Having a large freezer takes away a lot of the worry.
Whatever did we do without freezers and microwaves ... ?
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sf
Nov 8, 2012, 12:57:01 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 16:39:35 +0000, Mike.. . . .
<junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:53:06 -0700, "graham" <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >A major drug store chain started playing xmas muzak the week before last and
> >had to stop because of customer complaints.
>
> tesco has all the xmas crap on the shelves
We were in Costco (a big box store with membership requirements) last
week and were surprised by their lack of Christmas type merchandise.
They are usually loaded to the rafters by this time with Christmas
items to decorate the house or are ready to go as gifts.
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Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
<junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:53:06 -0700, "graham" <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> >A major drug store chain started playing xmas muzak the week before last and
> >had to stop because of customer complaints.
>
We were in Costco (a big box store with membership requirements) last
week and were surprised by their lack of Christmas type merchandise.
They are usually loaded to the rafters by this time with Christmas
items to decorate the house or are ready to go as gifts.
--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.
sf
Nov 8, 2012, 12:58:28 PM11/8/12
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On Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:03:03 -0800 (PST), Judith in France
<judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive:Yes
> > Sacha
>
> I've been online shopping. We don't send cards, not because we are
> mean but I would prefer to add up the cost of postage and cards and
> then send a like amount to World Vision.
We send very few cards because most of our friends and family are
local and we see them, so we can say it in person.
<judith...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> X-No-Archive:Yes
> On 8 Nov, 15:48, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > Christmas is coming! I've just ordered the turkey and all the other
> > bits and pieces! This feels serious!
> > --
> > Christmas is coming! I've just ordered the turkey and all the other
> > bits and pieces! This feels serious!
> > Sacha
>
> I've been online shopping. We don't send cards, not because we are
> mean but I would prefer to add up the cost of postage and cards and
> then send a like amount to World Vision.
We send very few cards because most of our friends and family are
local and we see them, so we can say it in person.
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Ophelia
Nov 8, 2012, 1:41:29 PM11/8/12
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> I always annexe an empty freezer in the tea room and shove odds and ends
> in that. My family love those 'party nibbles' from M&S, so we always have
> a few boxes of those for Boxing Day or the day after, if they're all still
> here.
Oh yes:)
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> in that. My family love those 'party nibbles' from M&S, so we always have
> a few boxes of those for Boxing Day or the day after, if they're all still
> here.
Oh yes:)
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Cherry
Nov 8, 2012, 3:56:24 PM11/8/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:08:38 PM UTC, Sacha wrote:
> Well, hooray for that, frankly. Next had Christmas trees in their
>
> window in mid-October. I really do hate that. By the time Christmas
>
> comes, you're sick of the sight and sound of all those merrily jingling
>
> cash registers!!
>
> --
>
> Sacha
Not so jingly Sainsbury's have had their boxes of Christmas biscuits on the shelves since October and are already selling them at half price.
Cherry
>
> window in mid-October. I really do hate that. By the time Christmas
>
> comes, you're sick of the sight and sound of all those merrily jingling
>
> cash registers!!
>
> --
>
> Sacha
Not so jingly Sainsbury's have had their boxes of Christmas biscuits on the shelves since October and are already selling them at half price.
Cherry
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Jane Gillett
Nov 9, 2012, 3:41:17 AM11/9/12
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In article <ag2bto...@mid.individual.net>,
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> We send cards but I think this will be the last year, or certainly the
> year in which extensive pruning of The List will take place. We both
> like to send to people we haven't seen all year, or don't see often but
> have noticed, year after year, that numbers we receive are decreasing.
> Of course, part of it is our age - people die - but mostly it's the
> sheer enormous cost of it, knowing that it's all going to end up in a
> bin. We have 5 doors leading out of our hall and had ribbons with
> cards hanging round every one of them up until last Christmas when we
> were down to 3.5 doors. And *still* we get the occasional card, with
> no address and no surname, from 'Pat' or 'John' and we have no idea who
> this is!
Isn't that frustrating! I always hope to get a bit of info about how people
are getting on.
For us it's a time to "catch up". As we make our own cards we put a short
paragraph of general chat about how the year has been for us and then, when
writing them, I add a bit specifically relevant to the recipient. Also, if
there are unusual circumstances for particular people you can print special
cards for them eg I wouldn't suggest a "Merry Christmas" for someone who's
recently had a death in the close family.
The cards are admittedly primitive, certainly wouldn't put Picasso out of
business or challenge the profits of a professional card supplier but I'm
not ashamed of them; they are us, thought about and "unique" - in all
senses of the word!
Jane
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Jane Gillett : j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> year in which extensive pruning of The List will take place. We both
> like to send to people we haven't seen all year, or don't see often but
> have noticed, year after year, that numbers we receive are decreasing.
> Of course, part of it is our age - people die - but mostly it's the
> sheer enormous cost of it, knowing that it's all going to end up in a
> bin. We have 5 doors leading out of our hall and had ribbons with
> cards hanging round every one of them up until last Christmas when we
> were down to 3.5 doors. And *still* we get the occasional card, with
> no address and no surname, from 'Pat' or 'John' and we have no idea who
> this is!
Isn't that frustrating! I always hope to get a bit of info about how people
are getting on.
For us it's a time to "catch up". As we make our own cards we put a short
paragraph of general chat about how the year has been for us and then, when
writing them, I add a bit specifically relevant to the recipient. Also, if
there are unusual circumstances for particular people you can print special
cards for them eg I wouldn't suggest a "Merry Christmas" for someone who's
recently had a death in the close family.
The cards are admittedly primitive, certainly wouldn't put Picasso out of
business or challenge the profits of a professional card supplier but I'm
not ashamed of them; they are us, thought about and "unique" - in all
senses of the word!
Jane
--
Jane Gillett : j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
Jane Gillett
Nov 9, 2012, 3:43:14 AM11/9/12
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In article <ag2c11...@mid.individual.net>,
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> I always annexe an empty freezer in the tea room and shove odds and
> ends in that. My family love those 'party nibbles' from M&S, so we
> always have a few boxes of those for Boxing Day or the day after, if
> they're all still here.
Which M&S do you find most useful around here?
> I always annexe an empty freezer in the tea room and shove odds and
> ends in that. My family love those 'party nibbles' from M&S, so we
> always have a few boxes of those for Boxing Day or the day after, if
> they're all still here.
Jane Gillett
Nov 9, 2012, 3:45:21 AM11/9/12
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In article <ag2lnv...@mid.individual.net>,
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> There's something depressing and a bit sick about that!
I guess the shops are finding that with the present financial climate
people are tending to buy only what they know they want rather than what
they <might> want.
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
I guess the shops are finding that with the present financial climate
people are tending to buy only what they know they want rather than what
they <might> want.
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Cherry
Nov 9, 2012, 9:12:32 AM11/9/12
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On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:15:44 PM UTC, Sacha wrote:
> On 2012-11-08 20:56:24 +0000, Cherry <cher...@gmail.com> said:
>
>
>
> On 2012-11-08 20:56:24 +0000, Cherry <cher...@gmail.com> said:
>
>
>
> There's something depressing and a bit sick about that!
>
> --
>
>
> Sacha
Trying to get a march on their competitors and sell Christmas stock at the same time as Halloween and Bonfire Night was too much obviously. People haven't got the money.
Cherry
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Cherry
Nov 9, 2012, 10:05:26 AM11/9/12
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On Friday, November 9, 2012 2:45:24 PM UTC, Martin wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:12:32 -0800 (PST), Cherry <cher...@gmail.com>
> Lidl in Whitby had a BOGOF on Xmas puddings in September two years ago
>
> --
> Martin
I can't remember seeing them down here in Swindon. I'd have bought a couple and liberally doused them in rum.
Cherry
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:12:32 -0800 (PST), Cherry <cher...@gmail.com>
>
> --
> Martin
I can't remember seeing them down here in Swindon. I'd have bought a couple and liberally doused them in rum.
Cherry
graham
Nov 9, 2012, 11:29:39 AM11/9/12
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>>
>>Trying to get a march on their competitors and sell Christmas stock at the
>>same time as Halloween and Bonfire Night was too much obviously. People
>>haven't got the money.
>
>>Trying to get a march on their competitors and sell Christmas stock at the
>>same time as Halloween and Bonfire Night was too much obviously. People
>>haven't got the money.
>
> Lidl in Whitby had a BOGOF on Xmas puddings in September two years ago
> --
>
Left over from the previous xmas no doubt{;-)
> --
>
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Nov 9, 2012, 12:16:07 PM11/9/12
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Nov 10, 2012, 6:26:20 AM11/10/12
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On Saturday, November 10, 2012 11:29:18 AM UTC+1, Mike..... wrote:
> as long as you do, we get cards from ex pat types with a duplicated
>
> resumee of the wonderful things that have hapened over the year, I
>
> never read them.
Not from me, you don't. I haven't sent cards in decades except to my mother until she died. I do phone a lot of people and catch up. Locally I make special breads or cakes and deliver them.
> as long as you do, we get cards from ex pat types with a duplicated
>
> resumee of the wonderful things that have hapened over the year, I
>
> never read them.
Not from me, you don't. I haven't sent cards in decades except to my mother until she died. I do phone a lot of people and catch up. Locally I make special breads or cakes and deliver them.
Jane Gillett
Nov 10, 2012, 4:44:28 AM11/10/12
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In article <rl5q98hudf1pe1gri...@4ax.com>,
time freeing shelf space for Dec sales - or negotiating a special price out
of season from the suppliers? Had there been, perhaps, a glut of a critical
component of christmas puddings available at low price that year?
Who owns Lidl? Is it US owned? When I worked for a US company the UK part
had to send a certain sum to US regularly and that was in dollars so if the
pound was low at the time they had to send more pounds; could have been a
situation like that - need to get more money together at the current time.
OTOH, if people are feeling a bit strapped with Halloween etc some might be
in a mood to "save some money" by any means they see eg investing now
rather than having to at a higher price later.
Cheers
Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:12:32 -0800 (PST), Cherry <cher...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Nov 2012 06:12:32 -0800 (PST), Cherry <cher...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Trying to get a march on their competitors and sell Christmas stock at the same time as Halloween and Bonfire Night was too much obviously. People haven't got the money.
> Lidl in Whitby had a BOGOF on Xmas puddings in September two years ago
Bringing a section of the year's income forward perhaps and, at the same
time freeing shelf space for Dec sales - or negotiating a special price out
of season from the suppliers? Had there been, perhaps, a glut of a critical
component of christmas puddings available at low price that year?
Who owns Lidl? Is it US owned? When I worked for a US company the UK part
had to send a certain sum to US regularly and that was in dollars so if the
pound was low at the time they had to send more pounds; could have been a
situation like that - need to get more money together at the current time.
OTOH, if people are feeling a bit strapped with Halloween etc some might be
in a mood to "save some money" by any means they see eg investing now
rather than having to at a higher price later.
Cheers
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Jane Gillett
Nov 11, 2012, 3:23:06 AM11/11/12
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In article <ac8f992f-54be-4950...@googlegroups.com>,
There seems to be an increasing trend. We are gettig phone calls now from
people we normally only hear from at Christmas or (rarely) a visit if life
brings them into our area. It's good (not for cardsuppliers and GPO
admittedly) as you get a chance for a chat and if you have the same sort of
phone terms as we do ATM it's even free.
people we normally only hear from at Christmas or (rarely) a visit if life
brings them into our area. It's good (not for cardsuppliers and GPO
admittedly) as you get a chance for a chat and if you have the same sort of
phone terms as we do ATM it's even free.
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Jane Gillett
Nov 12, 2012, 6:03:52 AM11/12/12
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In article <devu98hg1edigg1uv...@4ax.com>,
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
> indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:23:06 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
> indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
sf
Nov 12, 2012, 1:29:41 PM11/12/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:03:52 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
little letters can mean so many things.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/GPO.html
GPO Geophysical Prove-Out (US Army Corps of Engineers)
GPO Geschäftsprozess Optimierung
GPO General Purpose Outlet (electrical outlet)
GPO GOOS Project Office
GPO Gun Position Officer
GPO Global Process Owner
GPO Gemeindeparteiobmann (Austria, Europe)
GPO Guam Premium Outlets (Guam USA)
GPO Graphics Processor Option (VT100)
GPO Global Process Outsourcing
GPO Goosepimp Orchestra (band)
GPO Generalized Physical Optics Method
GPO Ground-Based FEL Project Office
GPO Gun Plot Officer
GPO Grade Print Out
GPO Greeley Philharmonic Orchestra (Greeley, CO)
GPO Green Party of Ontario (Ontario, Canada)
GPO Gas Pipeline Operator
GPO Gift Planning Officer (various organizations)
<j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <devu98hg1edigg1uv...@4ax.com>,
> Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:23:06 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> > <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
>
> > indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
>
> Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
> What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
Right! Acronyms are very chic at the moment. Never mind that 3
> In article <devu98hg1edigg1uv...@4ax.com>,
> Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:23:06 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> > <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
>
> > indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
>
> Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
> What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
little letters can mean so many things.
http://www.acronymfinder.com/GPO.html
GPO Geophysical Prove-Out (US Army Corps of Engineers)
GPO Geschäftsprozess Optimierung
GPO General Purpose Outlet (electrical outlet)
GPO GOOS Project Office
GPO Gun Position Officer
GPO Global Process Owner
GPO Gemeindeparteiobmann (Austria, Europe)
GPO Guam Premium Outlets (Guam USA)
GPO Graphics Processor Option (VT100)
GPO Global Process Outsourcing
GPO Goosepimp Orchestra (band)
GPO Generalized Physical Optics Method
GPO Ground-Based FEL Project Office
GPO Gun Plot Officer
GPO Grade Print Out
GPO Greeley Philharmonic Orchestra (Greeley, CO)
GPO Green Party of Ontario (Ontario, Canada)
GPO Gas Pipeline Operator
GPO Gift Planning Officer (various organizations)
graham
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Nov 13, 2012, 12:51:30 AM11/13/12
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On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:40:02 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:29:41 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:03:52 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> ><j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <devu98hg1edigg1uv...@4ax.com>,
> >> Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:23:06 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> >> > <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
> >>
> >> > indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
> >>
> >> Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
> >> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> >> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
> >> What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
> >
> >Right! Acronyms are very chic at the moment. Never mind that 3
> >little letters can mean so many things.
>
> Post Office is a bit of a give away.
I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
stupid.
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 10:29:41 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 11:03:52 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> ><j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <devu98hg1edigg1uv...@4ax.com>,
> >> Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 08:23:06 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> >> > <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> > >not for cardsuppliers and GPO
> >>
> >> > indeed, abolished in 1969. I think its called Insignia now :-)
> >>
> >> Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
> >> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> >> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
> >> What's wrong with Post Office - not posh enough?
> >
> >Right! Acronyms are very chic at the moment. Never mind that 3
> >little letters can mean so many things.
>
I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
stupid.
Anne Chambers
Nov 13, 2012, 1:50:26 AM11/13/12
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sf wrote:
>
> I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> stupid.
>
Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO and PMG meant without even thinking
>
> I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> stupid.
>
about it. Just because it wasn't used in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
--
Anne Chambers
South Australia
anne dot chambers at bigpond dot com
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sf
Nov 13, 2012, 10:42:37 AM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:20:26 +1030, Anne Chambers <an...@privacy.net>
wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> > stupid.
> >
> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO and PMG meant without even thinking
> about it. Just because it wasn't used in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
Apparently there's a problem or else this topic wouldn't exist.
wrote:
> sf wrote:
>
> >
> > I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> > stupid.
> >
> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO and PMG meant without even thinking
> about it. Just because it wasn't used in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
graham
Nov 13, 2012, 11:05:52 AM11/13/12
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> sf wrote:
>
>>
>> I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
>> stupid.
>>
> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO
> and PMG meant without even thinking about it. Just because it wasn't used
> in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
>
IIRC, the official centre of any Australian town or city is the General Post
>
>>
>> I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
>> stupid.
>>
> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO
> and PMG meant without even thinking about it. Just because it wasn't used
> in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
>
Office (GPO). Am I correct on this, Anne?
Graham
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Nov 13, 2012, 1:11:42 PM11/13/12
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>
> BTW Graham our university grants were paid for out of the rates.
> I managed four years before I joined the brain drain.
> --
Undergrad grants came from the rates but post-grad were from the National
Environment Research Council (NERC).
I finished just before the North Sea oil boom and there were no jobs in my
field at that time.
Graham
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Nov 13, 2012, 2:14:52 PM11/13/12
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graham wrote:
>>
> IIRC, the official centre of any Australian town or city is the General Post
> Office (GPO). Am I correct on this, Anne?
> Graham
>
>
Partially - only state capitals and Canberra have GPOs. And we no longer have a PMG's department (Post Master
>>
> IIRC, the official centre of any Australian town or city is the General Post
> Office (GPO). Am I correct on this, Anne?
> Graham
>
>
General) - it was split into Australia Post and Telstra (which changed its name a couple of times) many years ago.
sf
Nov 13, 2012, 2:23:04 PM11/13/12
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On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:27:46 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:42:37 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:20:26 +1030, Anne Chambers <an...@privacy.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> >> > stupid.
> >> >
> >> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO and PMG meant without even thinking
> >> about it. Just because it wasn't used in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
> >
> >Apparently there's a problem or else this topic wouldn't exist.
>
> You created it. It's only a problem in your mind.
Nope, Jane initiated the subthread. I agreed that GPO means too many
things that don't mean post office.
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 07:42:37 -0800, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:20:26 +1030, Anne Chambers <an...@privacy.net>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> sf wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > I agree that it should be called Post Office. GPO is nothing short of
> >> > stupid.
> >> >
> >> Anyone over 50 who lived in Britain or the 'colonies' would know what GPO and PMG meant without even thinking
> >> about it. Just because it wasn't used in the US doesn't make it 'stupid'
> >
> >Apparently there's a problem or else this topic wouldn't exist.
>
Nope, Jane initiated the subthread. I agreed that GPO means too many
things that don't mean post office.
Anne Chambers
Nov 13, 2012, 3:12:25 PM11/13/12
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assumed that they would measure to the centre of other towns, where the post
office generally was situated.
I really miss the climate, particularly as there is the better part of a
foot of snow over my back yard.
Graham
> graham wrote:
>
>>>
>> IIRC, the official centre of any Australian town or city is the General
>> Post
>> Office (GPO). Am I correct on this, Anne?
>> Graham
>>
>>
> Partially - only state capitals and Canberra have GPOs. And we no longer
> have a PMG's department (Post Master General) - it was split into
> Australia Post and Telstra (which changed its name a couple of times) many
> years ago.
>
I remember all road distances from Perth were measured from the GPO and I
>
>>>
>> IIRC, the official centre of any Australian town or city is the General
>> Post
>> Office (GPO). Am I correct on this, Anne?
>> Graham
>>
>>
> Partially - only state capitals and Canberra have GPOs. And we no longer
> have a PMG's department (Post Master General) - it was split into
> Australia Post and Telstra (which changed its name a couple of times) many
> years ago.
>
assumed that they would measure to the centre of other towns, where the post
office generally was situated.
I really miss the climate, particularly as there is the better part of a
foot of snow over my back yard.
Graham
Anne Chambers
Nov 13, 2012, 4:04:03 PM11/13/12
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graham wrote:
>>
> I remember all road distances from Perth were measured from the GPO and I
> assumed that they would measure to the centre of other towns, where the post
> office generally was situated.
> I really miss the climate, particularly as there is the better part of a
> foot of snow over my back yard.
> Graham
>
>
Distances are still measured from Post Office to Post Office - In larger towns where there is more than one
>>
> I remember all road distances from Perth were measured from the GPO and I
> assumed that they would measure to the centre of other towns, where the post
> office generally was situated.
> I really miss the climate, particularly as there is the better part of a
> foot of snow over my back yard.
> Graham
>
>
Post Office, it's to the main (?biggest?) one but it's not called a GPO.
The climate here has changed over the 40+ years I've been here - it's very much more extreme than it was as
far as heat and floods and drought are concerned. I don't think you'd enjoy Perth much now....too many
bushfires !
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> --
The water there tastes vile! Still, with all those vineyards, who needs it?
Graham
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When we left, we sold our house for ~$50k. It sold recently for $3.4mill.
Graham
Graham
Kev
Nov 13, 2012, 5:49:41 PM11/13/12
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On 13/11/2012 14:06, Janet wrote:
> In article <qsn3a8p4nsf6hnuh8...@4ax.com>, s...@geemail.com
> says...
> It IS called The Post Office, and has been for almost half a century.
> The GPO was a historic title.
>
> Janet
Apart from when it was Consignia...
> In article <qsn3a8p4nsf6hnuh8...@4ax.com>, s...@geemail.com
> says...
> The GPO was a historic title.
>
> Janet
Apart from when it was Consignia...
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Nov 13, 2012, 7:09:37 PM11/13/12
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graham <g.st...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>> BTW Graham our university grants were paid for out of the rates.
>> I managed four years before I joined the brain drain.
>> BTW Graham our university grants were paid for out of the rates.
>> I managed four years before I joined the brain drain.
> Undergrad grants came from the rates but post-grad were from the National
> Environment Research Council (NERC).
Mine came from epsrc (european something or other research council)
> Environment Research Council (NERC).
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Nov 14, 2012, 3:34:42 AM11/14/12
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In article <b8Aos.704744$ti6.5...@fx20.am4>,
YES. That's the one. Don't know why they decided to use such a name but
presumeably changed it because of the number of people who said "whoozat?"
or some such. Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
meddle?
Jane
--
Jane Gillett : j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
presumeably changed it because of the number of people who said "whoozat?"
or some such. Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
meddle?
Jane
--
Jane Gillett : j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk : Totnes, Devon.
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 10:06:51 +0000, Mike.. . . .
<junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:42:25 +1030, Anne Chambers <an...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> Nope, Jane initiated the subthread. I agreed that GPO means too many
> >> things that don't mean post office.
> >
> >You were the first (and only) one to say that. It's not a problem if you live or have lived in Britain.
>
> not sure how "general" added to "post office" could be a problem or
> "stupid" for anybody? Maybe "general" is only a military rank to some
> people. :-)
Please keep up. Jane and I were talking about the initials, what a
fad it is to use acronyms and that GPO refers to many other things,
not just the expanded words "general post office".
<junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 06:42:25 +1030, Anne Chambers <an...@privacy.net>
> wrote:
>
> >> Nope, Jane initiated the subthread. I agreed that GPO means too many
> >> things that don't mean post office.
> >
> >You were the first (and only) one to say that. It's not a problem if you live or have lived in Britain.
>
> "stupid" for anybody? Maybe "general" is only a military rank to some
> people. :-)
Please keep up. Jane and I were talking about the initials, what a
fad it is to use acronyms and that GPO refers to many other things,
not just the expanded words "general post office".
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Nov 14, 2012, 2:39:30 PM11/14/12
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On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:10:28 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
Yes, and I hate them.
> This is a UK group
> GPO only means for one thing here. You have a problem not the rest of
> us. None of the things that you put up for GPO were British as far as
> I recall.
So, why does Jane have a problem with it?
> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
Yes, and I hate them.
> This is a UK group
> GPO only means for one thing here. You have a problem not the rest of
> us. None of the things that you put up for GPO were British as far as
> I recall.
So, why does Jane have a problem with it?
graham
Nov 14, 2012, 2:44:13 PM11/14/12
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>>>
>
> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
This is known as "acronymphomania" {:-)
>
> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
Graham
p.s. A geologist came up with that one, AFAIK.
Anne Chambers
Nov 14, 2012, 3:22:42 PM11/14/12
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sf wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:10:28 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
>
> Yes, and I hate them.
>
>> This is a UK group
>> GPO only means for one thing here. You have a problem not the rest of
>> us. None of the things that you put up for GPO were British as far as
>> I recall.
>
> So, why does Jane have a problem with it?
>
She doesn't - her post read
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:10:28 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Said the woman from the land of acronym lovers.
>
> Yes, and I hate them.
>
>> This is a UK group
>> GPO only means for one thing here. You have a problem not the rest of
>> us. None of the things that you put up for GPO were British as far as
>> I recall.
>
> So, why does Jane have a problem with it?
>
> Yes. Is that the latest name? Didn't somebody decide that nobody would
> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
AFAIAC = A[s] F[ar] A[s] I A[m] C[oncerned]) in case you haven't come across it. You then started the hare of
> remember that name and change it to something else? OR was that something
> else first - like "Procosmia" - or is that a flower? It's still GPO AFAIAC.
too many meanings of GPO.
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was in the early 60s.
Graham
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In article <hb47a89cqcrpjgjgg...@4ax.com>,
Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> <snip>
Ah ....... to help the financial recovery??
Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> <snip>
> >> Apart from when it was Consignia...
> >
> >YES. That's the one. Don't know why they decided to use such a name but
> >presumeably changed it because of the number of people who said "whoozat?"
> >or some such. Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
> >meddle?
> To keep their friends employed making new logos, publicity ...
> >
> >YES. That's the one. Don't know why they decided to use such a name but
> >presumeably changed it because of the number of people who said "whoozat?"
> >or some such. Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
> >meddle?
Ah ....... to help the financial recovery??
Jane Gillett
Nov 16, 2012, 3:06:41 AM11/16/12
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In article <lsd9a89m7s8piuj5m...@4ax.com>,
> need
"They" being govmt elected by us? SOmetimes one wonders about democracy;
especially ATM. The "police" elections. Ave 15% turnout in this part of
Devon. I voted but had very little idea who to vote for so perhaps not
particularly meaningful. Wouldn't vote for anybody put forward by a
political party - policing must NOT be party politically controlled - but
that still left 6 cnadidates I knew nothing about. Bit of a fiasco AFAICS.
Mike.. . . . <junkfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 08:34:42 +0000 (GMT), Jane Gillett
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
> >meddle?
> they paid consultants bags of cash to invent a stupid name we didnt
> <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> wrote:
> >Royal Mail or Post Office/GPO is well understood so why
> >meddle?
> need
"They" being govmt elected by us? SOmetimes one wonders about democracy;
especially ATM. The "police" elections. Ave 15% turnout in this part of
Devon. I voted but had very little idea who to vote for so perhaps not
particularly meaningful. Wouldn't vote for anybody put forward by a
political party - policing must NOT be party politically controlled - but
that still left 6 cnadidates I knew nothing about. Bit of a fiasco AFAICS.
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Nov 16, 2012, 8:11:56 AM11/16/12
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On 11/16/2012 7:59 AM, Mike.. . . . wrote:
> One Newport polling station, nobody voted. I agree, don't want
> political police like US, rotten idea. I would spoil ballot as did
> many.
>
I haven't been following this - "political police"?
> One Newport polling station, nobody voted. I agree, don't want
> political police like US, rotten idea. I would spoil ballot as did
> many.
>
I haven't been following this - "political police"?
S Viemeister
Nov 16, 2012, 8:17:59 AM11/16/12
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On 11/16/2012 5:53 AM, Martin wrote:
> M&S have a far bigger stock on their Internet mail order shop than in
> any of their stores that we have been in
>
I've been wandering around the M&S site, trying to find listings of
their upholstery fabrics - I want to made armrest covers for a sofa I
bought from them. I was assured that I would be able to buy matching
yardage (metreage?)...
> M&S have a far bigger stock on their Internet mail order shop than in
> any of their stores that we have been in
>
I've been wandering around the M&S site, trying to find listings of
their upholstery fabrics - I want to made armrest covers for a sofa I
bought from them. I was assured that I would be able to buy matching
yardage (metreage?)...
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Nov 16, 2012, 9:23:16 AM11/16/12
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On 11/16/2012 9:05 AM, Sacha wrote:
> I've never seen bolts of fabric. I've only seen furniture ready
> upholstered but if I were you, I'd contact their main site and ask them
> about that. I certainly have never seen furnishing fabrics on display by
> the metre. Going to their onliine store and typing in furnishing
> fabrics just brings up pics of cushions or ready made curtains.
I was told, when I ordered the sofa, that the fabric was available to
order, and indeed, the swatches I have say that yardage is available. I
may actually have to use the telephone!
> upholstered but if I were you, I'd contact their main site and ask them
> about that. I certainly have never seen furnishing fabrics on display by
> the metre. Going to their onliine store and typing in furnishing
> fabrics just brings up pics of cushions or ready made curtains.
I was told, when I ordered the sofa, that the fabric was available to
order, and indeed, the swatches I have say that yardage is available. I
may actually have to use the telephone!
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Nov 16, 2012, 11:53:15 AM11/16/12
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On 11/16/2012 9:25 AM, Martin wrote:
>
I had problems with some orders 2 or 3 years ago. The first few droids I
spoke with weren't any help, but I eventually got hold of someone who
could think. He managed to take care of all the ****ups the others had
perpetrated.
> <firs...@lastname.oc.ku> wrote:
>> I was told, when I ordered the sofa, that the fabric was available to
>> order, and indeed, the swatches I have say that yardage is available. I
>> may actually have to use the telephone!
>
> Good luck with finding any sign of intelligence.
>> I was told, when I ordered the sofa, that the fabric was available to
>> order, and indeed, the swatches I have say that yardage is available. I
>> may actually have to use the telephone!
>
>
I had problems with some orders 2 or 3 years ago. The first few droids I
spoke with weren't any help, but I eventually got hold of someone who
could think. He managed to take care of all the ****ups the others had
perpetrated.
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In article <agmqk5...@mid.individual.net>,
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 2012-11-16 11:36:04 +0000, Martin <m...@address.invalid> said:
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:14:34 +0000, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-11-16 10:53:18 +0000, Martin <m...@address.invalid> said:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:40:56 +0000, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2012-11-09 08:43:14 +0000, Jane Gillett <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <ag2c11...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>> Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> That was the worst experience we've ever had, even when Ray was in the
> Paras, he said. All sorts of ridiculous things go through one's mind,
> like the jam my dil had given me would be smashed! Plus, of course,
> rather more serious and sombre thoughts about children and
> grandchildren etc. I've been in one overshoot before, also in the CIs,
> I need hardly say. The runways there are short, so there's no margin
> for error. Jersey's ends in a cliff at one end and houses at the other
> and Guernsey's is houses all around and even shorter, though they are
> extending it. Overshoots are very scary to the unwary and while I
> realised it might happen and had warned Ray, I don't think other
> passengers had, so this sudden roar of the engines and upward swoop of
> the plane as it claws its way back into the sky is extremely
> frightening. We'd heard the Liverpool flight overshoot at Jersey when
> we were waiting for our flight and that was a jet so the noise was
> ground shaking!
> > Why do you think we go by ferry to UK? :-)
> To fill the car boot?! ;-) It's about the same cost to go by ferry
> but it's a lot more faff. It's about a two hour drive from here to
> Weymouth or Poole and those don't operate in winter. (Weymouth wasn't
> operating to the CIs at all this summer) then it's a 4 hour crossing.
> Exeter airport is half an hour from us and the flight is approximately
> 45 minutes.
Do you get tied up in lengthy security checks and waits at Exeter airport
when travelling to Jersey? Been thinking about that for Scilly. Apart from
that it's a promising alternative now that the helicopter's gone. Having
had our only Scillonian journey in rough weather we will not entertain
another sea crossing to Scilly unless there is absolutely no alternative.
<snip>
> >> outside Torquay, is a flagship store and has a large food hall and has
> >> a home furnishings department and café upstairs. It's in a shopping
> >> complex that includes Sainsbury and a little further up the hill,
> >> Boots, Next, Mothercare.
> >
> > If M&S doesn't have your size in stock you can order items by mail
> > order and have them delivered to an M&S store of your choice free, or
> > pay to have it delivered to your home. You can also find 20% off
> > voucher codes on internet fairly easily. http://www.vouchercodes.co.uk
> I've often ordered over the internet and had stuff delivered here or to
> the grandchildren. The system works very well and as you say, offers a
> wider range of sizes than might be in stock in one of the shops. I
> think their service is very good. Handy tip about the vouchers, too!
Thanks. It's much more convenient than having to travel to the Willows but
I would only be after small quantities so maybe they wouldn't supply or the
delivery charges would be prohibitive.
Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On 2012-11-16 11:36:04 +0000, Martin <m...@address.invalid> said:
> > On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 11:14:34 +0000, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2012-11-16 10:53:18 +0000, Martin <m...@address.invalid> said:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:40:56 +0000, Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2012-11-09 08:43:14 +0000, Jane Gillett <j.gi...@higherstert.co.uk> said:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <ag2c11...@mid.individual.net>,
> >>>>> Sacha <sa...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> That was the worst experience we've ever had, even when Ray was in the
> Paras, he said. All sorts of ridiculous things go through one's mind,
> like the jam my dil had given me would be smashed! Plus, of course,
> rather more serious and sombre thoughts about children and
> grandchildren etc. I've been in one overshoot before, also in the CIs,
> I need hardly say. The runways there are short, so there's no margin
> for error. Jersey's ends in a cliff at one end and houses at the other
> and Guernsey's is houses all around and even shorter, though they are
> extending it. Overshoots are very scary to the unwary and while I
> realised it might happen and had warned Ray, I don't think other
> passengers had, so this sudden roar of the engines and upward swoop of
> the plane as it claws its way back into the sky is extremely
> frightening. We'd heard the Liverpool flight overshoot at Jersey when
> we were waiting for our flight and that was a jet so the noise was
> ground shaking!
> > Why do you think we go by ferry to UK? :-)
> To fill the car boot?! ;-) It's about the same cost to go by ferry
> but it's a lot more faff. It's about a two hour drive from here to
> Weymouth or Poole and those don't operate in winter. (Weymouth wasn't
> operating to the CIs at all this summer) then it's a 4 hour crossing.
> Exeter airport is half an hour from us and the flight is approximately
> 45 minutes.
Do you get tied up in lengthy security checks and waits at Exeter airport
when travelling to Jersey? Been thinking about that for Scilly. Apart from
that it's a promising alternative now that the helicopter's gone. Having
had our only Scillonian journey in rough weather we will not entertain
another sea crossing to Scilly unless there is absolutely no alternative.
<snip>
> >>>
> >>> M&S have a far bigger stock on their Internet mail order shop than in
> >>> any of their stores that we have been in
> >>
> >> I haven't done a stock comparison but the one at the Willows, just
> >>> M&S have a far bigger stock on their Internet mail order shop than in
> >>> any of their stores that we have been in
> >>
> >> outside Torquay, is a flagship store and has a large food hall and has
> >> a home furnishings department and café upstairs. It's in a shopping
> >> complex that includes Sainsbury and a little further up the hill,
> >> Boots, Next, Mothercare.
> >
> > If M&S doesn't have your size in stock you can order items by mail
> > order and have them delivered to an M&S store of your choice free, or
> > pay to have it delivered to your home. You can also find 20% off
> > voucher codes on internet fairly easily. http://www.vouchercodes.co.uk
> I've often ordered over the internet and had stuff delivered here or to
> the grandchildren. The system works very well and as you say, offers a
> wider range of sizes than might be in stock in one of the shops. I
> think their service is very good. Handy tip about the vouchers, too!
Thanks. It's much more convenient than having to travel to the Willows but
I would only be after small quantities so maybe they wouldn't supply or the
delivery charges would be prohibitive.
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