150 more small shops in Tesco invasion
St Georges Day April 23rd
high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
stores.
The supermarket giant is due to launch 150 stores in the smaller
Express format over the next 12 months, compared with around 100
annually in recent years.
Campaigners claim the smaller format convenience stores destroy local
independent shops and cause congestion and noise in residential
areas.
Sandra Bell, supermarkets campaigner for Friends of the Earth, said:
"Tesco's seemingly unstoppable invasion of our high streets comes at
the expense of independent shops and leaves shoppers with little
choice of where to buy their groceries. While the commission's report,
due next month, is hoped to stop the worst of this retail giant's
bullying behaviour towards suppliers, it will do nothing to stop the
Tesco-isation of our towns."
Tesco: A Multicultural Problem
In older England the merchant class had many easy-going traditions.
One tradition was that a respectable tradesman would never seek
business but wait for it to come to him. Another tradition was that to
decorate one's store window with lights or colors, or to display one's
stock of goods attractively in the view of the public, was a
contemptible and underhanded method of tempting a brother tradesman's
customers away from him. Still another tradition was that it was
strictly unethical and unbusinesslike to handle more than one line of
goods. If one sold tea, it was the best reason in the world why he
should not sell teaspoons. As for advertising, the thing would have
been so brazen and bold that public opinion would have put the
advertiser out of business. The proper demeanor for a merchant was to
seem reluctant to part with his goods.
One may readily imaging what happened when the Jewish merchant bustled
into the midst of this jungle of traditions. He simply broke them all.
In those days tradition had all the force of a divinely promulgated
moral law and in consequence of his initiative the Jew was regarded as
a great offender. A man who would break those trade traditions would
stop at nothing! The Jew was anxious to sell. If he could not sell one
article to a customer, he had another on hand to offer him. The Jews'
stores became bazaars, forerunners of our modern department stores,
and the old English custom of one store for one line of goods was
broken up. The Jew went after trade, pursued it, persuaded it. He was
the originator of "a quick turnover and small profits." He originated
the installment plan. The one state of affairs he could not endure was
business at a standstill, and to start it moving he would do anything.
He was the first advertiser — in a day when even to announce in public
prints the location of your store was to intimate to the public that
you were in financial difficulties, were about to go to the wall and
were trying the last desperate expedient to which no self-respecting
merchant would stoop.
It was as easy as child's play to connect this energy with dishonesty.
The Jew was not playing the game, at least so the staid English
merchant thought. As a matter of fact he was playing the game to get
it all in his own hands — which he has practically done.
The Jew in Character and Business by Henry Ford (of car fame)
http://reactor-core.org/international-jew.html
BNP will stem the Tesco tide
http://www.bnp.org.uk/freedom/05nov03.html
SUPERMARKET tyrant, Tesco, has just rung up record profits as it
continues to conquer our High Streets and shopping centres.
This year's first half pre-tax profits announced on September 20th
were up 18.7% to £908 million, whilst Tesco's share of the grocery
market is up to 30.5%.
Within five years that share is expected to reach 45%, then the
superstore giant will have enough monopoly power to hike prices and
squeeze shoppers who will no longer have an alternative source for
food or household goods.
Tesco is ruthlessly expanding and crushing its rivals. Its market
share is almost as big as its two main rivals, Asda and Sainsbury's
put together, and it shows no sign of stopping.
Tesco has amassed a 'land bank' of 185 sites across the country on
which to build new stores. 30 of these will be open by the end of this
year, and another 56 have planning permission. This 'land bank'
amounts to 4.5 million square feet of new supermarket space. Compare
that with the other supermarket chains, Asda, Sainsbury's and
Morrisons who only have 3.7 million square feet of planned store space
between them.
The superstore empire wants total domination of Britain's food supply
chain. They bid whatever it takes to buy up any potential store sites
that come on the market, simply to deny them to their rivals.
The company uses its ever-increasing financial muscle to beat down the
local opposition it is increasingly encountering as it takes over yet
another town. In the lovely Cotswold town of Stow-on-the-Wold, an
application to build a Tesco store had been turned down seven times
before the local planning officer urged councillors to approve the
proposal.
The alternative was to face the heavy costs of an appeal for which
each of the councillors could be personally liable. Naturally the
council caved in as they generally have been forced to do everywhere.
Tesco knows that in civil cases British justice is generally for sale
to the highest bidder - ordinary folk simply can't afford the immense
legal costs entailed.
Tesco, aided and abetted by lesser supermarket sharks like Asda,
Sainsbury's and Morrisons who between them control almost three
quarters of the British grocery market, use their monopoly buying
power to force farmers and other suppliers to sell at unsustainable
prices, driving many to ruin.
The uneconomic prices they force suppliers to accept then enables the
store chains to undercut traditional family shops, butchers, grocers
and fishmongers, and drive them out of business in town after town.
Having driven everyone else out of the market, the biggest store shark
is now devouring the lesser ones.
You would have thought a Labour Government would be defending ordinary
shoppers from this approaching big business monopoly exploitation, but
that's not the case. The Office of Fair Trading can only wring its
hands and do nothing while the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
only pauses from its schemes to concrete over Southern England to
repeatedly back Tesco in planning battles with local residents and
their elected councillors.
Nothing now stands between Tesco and total control of your shopping
bag but the British National Party. We will stop them in their tracks,
break up the giant store chains and set free farmers and shoppers
alike from the tangling web of monopoly buying and selling power.
Only the BNP will encourage small shopkeepers to return to the high
street, to complement a responsible but limited supermarket sector led
by companies like Waitrose which is owned by its staff and management.
Mel Rowing
<bbbbbdfgdfgdgd...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Only the BNP will encourage small shopkeepers to return to the high
> street, to complement a responsible but limited supermarket sector led
> by companies like Waitrose which is owned by its staff and management.
From its small local councillor base!
count zero
also got some in Northern Rock but guess that was another story.
Andy W.
> Only the BNP will encourage small shopkeepers to return to the high
> street, to complement a responsible but limited supermarket sector led
> by companies like Waitrose which is owned by its staff and management.
I wonder if they'll encourage the 'corners' ship owned by people from
Pakistan an India?
Some how I doubt it.
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Mike
"Andy W." <gr...@jhg.com> wrote in message news:fu4ecb$oao$1...@aioe.org...
> St Georges Day April 23rd wrote:
>
>> Only the BNP will encourage small shopkeepers to return to the high
>> street, to complement a responsible but limited supermarket sector led
>> by companies like Waitrose which is owned by its staff and management.
>
> I wonder if they'll encourage the 'corners' ship owned by people from
> Pakistan an India?
>
> Some how I doubt it.
>
>
or Jews :-(
Mike
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>Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
>high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
>stores.
Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and everything
that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who is
invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't have
any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
Brian Watson
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Bless you, my son.
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Brian Morrison
All very well, and if you wish to do that then fine.
Where I live I have the choice between 2 Tesco stores and 2 Sainsbury,
both of the latter are much further away than Tesco. There are no other
supermarkets or even smaller places where I can buy the usual foodstuffs
other than a few small "inconvenience" stores that have nowhere to park
and don't sell what I need.
Principles are really handy, but trying to buck the Tesco et al. trend
is not particularly easy.
Like most of you, I'm not impressed by their recent announcement of 12%
increase in profits. I know they've done that by screwing suppliers, but
to protest probably means paying more and driving further.
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PaulB
Errrr... she's a (pretty) girl
Paul
sjb@dfv3rjgn34
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>
> Errrr... she's a (pretty) girl
>
> Paul
>
Why thank you Paul.
I haven't yet subscribed to the modern PC lunacy of taking offence to
anything either. ;-)
sjb@dfv3rjgn34
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>
> Principles are really handy, but trying to buck the Tesco et al. trend is
> not particularly easy.
>
Noted, and agreed. Alot of it is just sheer gluttony though.
People could grow their own, it's tastes the way we all remember it too.
The problem with all of this food today is that it's all been so fiddled
with. Most of the fruit and veg has never seen soil.
We have about 60' x 30' set aside in the garden; potatoes, carrots, beans,
parsnips, onions, herbs. That's just about keeps us going, and the rest
goes to friends and family before it goes off. It's quite hard work though,
but satisfying.
Chris Shore
"Aly" <slfjh;sjb@DFv3rjgn34,..fv> wrote in message
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Customers aside, their product line reflects their target market which is
the
main reason I avoid them. A preponderance of cheap-as-possible
over-processed
food and tacky stuff which is presumably chosen to have maximum profit
margin, maximum appeal to tacky people etc.
Roland Perry
2008, Brian Morrison <scra...@fenrir.org.uk> remarked:
>Where I live I have the choice between 2 Tesco stores and 2 Sainsbury,
>both of the latter are much further away than Tesco.
Despite living in a major metro area, the nearest Tesco is half an hour
away. ASDA, Co-op and Morrisons are within a mile, and Sainsburys is
three miles away (as is a second Morrisons).
I won't fuel the debate by saying which has the most chavs shopping
there.
--
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PaulB
But you removed your picture from that link before I had Saved to disk, how
about restoring it for the fan club :-)
Paul
sjb@dfv3rjgn34
>
> But you removed your picture from that link before I had Saved to disk,
> how about restoring it for the fan club :-)
>
> Paul
>
I've just keeping a low profile, innit ;-)
magwitch
anything in the fridge away and always try to use it up in something or
other.
Growing stuff takes a lot of care and hard work and gives you back your
respect for whatever you've managed to get to the table, whereas just
buying it makes it easy to take it for granted.
News+...@torrens.org.uk
> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
> everything that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of
> customer who is invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which
> you would otherwise avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for
> culture, but Tesco doesn't have any! They'd sell their own
> GrandMother.
IF you shop at Tesco, notice the eyes and expressions of other shoppers.
More of them seem to be wandering round in a zombie-like state than I
notice in other stores. Or is it my imagination?
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>
> IF you shop at Tesco, notice the eyes and expressions of other shoppers.
> More of them seem to be wandering round in a zombie-like state than I
> notice in other stores. Or is it my imagination?
No. If you shop in the Newmarket Road branch (that's the only one I
ever use) they have all these brainwashing LCD monitors above the
shopping aisles, showing continuous advertising / sales messages with
intrusive sound levels too. Pure brainwashing if you ask me. I keep
my head down to avoid being sucked in. It's truly horrible.
J
Roland Perry
Apr 2008, News+...@Torrens.org.uk remarked:
>IF you shop at Tesco, notice the eyes and expressions of other shoppers.
>More of them seem to be wandering round in a zombie-like state than I
>notice in other stores. Or is it my imagination?
Its worse in ASDA I think.
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Roland Perry
<9d7d19bf-4369-4577...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, at
04:14:13 on Thu, 17 Apr 2008, no-rep...@ntlworld.com remarked:
>If you shop in the Newmarket Road branch (that's the only one I
>ever use) they have all these brainwashing LCD monitors above the
>shopping aisles, showing continuous advertising / sales messages with
>intrusive sound levels too.
I believe they use that store to "test market" stuff like that.
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Brian Watson
Peter Hucker
Aren't they Jewish owned?
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>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:16:08 +0100, Aly <"<slfjh;sjb"@DFv3rjgn34> wrote:
>
>> "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:8fe328ba-3b0b-48cd...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
>>> high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
>>> stores.
>>
>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and everything
>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who is
>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't have
>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>
>Aren't they Jewish owned?
No, Tesco is a PLC and is listed on the London and Dublin Stock
Exchanges. It was originally set up by Jack Cohen, who was Jewish,
but the public listing means that the share ownership is now very
widely spread indeed.
The current Chairman, Sir Terry Leahy, is Roman Catholic having been
educated at St Edward's College, Liverpool. He obtained a 2:1 degree
in Management Sciences at the former University of Manchester
Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST) and joined Tesco straight
after graduating.
Giusi
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> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> wrote:
>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
>>> everything
>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who
>>> is
>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't
>>> have
>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>>
>>Aren't they Jewish owned?
>
>
> No, Tesco is a PLC and is listed on the London and Dublin Stock
> Exchanges. It was originally set up by Jack Cohen, who was Jewish,
> but the public listing means that the share ownership is now very
> widely spread indeed.
>
> The current Chairman, Sir Terry Leahy, is Roman Catholic having been
> educated at St Edward's College, Liverpool. He obtained a 2:1 degree
> in Management Sciences at the former University of Manchester
> Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST) and joined Tesco straight
> after graduating.
>
You are being an apologist to an anti-semitic racist and a snob. Watch out
or they'll force you to rub elbows with the classes that shop at Tesco.
Ophelia
LOL
JNugent
> Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
> high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
> stores.
Tesco *started* in high street grocers' shops!
The biggest leap forward in their early days was when they bought the
Irwin chain of "family grocers" and re-designed and re-branded the
premises as Tesco "supermarkets" (not too "super" in those days).
So what "invasion" can this be?
myrtle
> Giusi wrote:
> > "eBay seller" <e...@nospam.ebay.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
> >news:etre14t8vvd4qs0ho...@4ax.com...
> >> "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
> >>>> everything
> >>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of
> >>>> customer who is
> >>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would
> >>>> otherwise avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture,
> >>>> but Tesco doesn't have
> >>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>
> >>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>
> >> No, Tesco is a PLC and is listed on the London and Dublin Stock
> >> Exchanges. It was originally set up by Jack Cohen, who was Jewish,
> >> but the public listing means that the share ownership is now very
> >> widely spread indeed.
>
> >> The current Chairman, Sir Terry Leahy, is Roman Catholic having been
> >> educated at St Edward's College, Liverpool. He obtained a 2:1 degree
> >> in Management Sciences at the former University of Manchester
> >> Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST) and joined Tesco
> >> straight after graduating.
>
> > You are being an apologist to an anti-semitic racist and a snob. Watch out
> > or they'll force you to rub elbows with the classes that
> > shop at Tesco.
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
To quote someone on one of the Radio 4 programmes 'The good thing
about Sainsburys is that it keeps the riff-raff out of Waitrose'.
Same could be said of Tesco. No-one forces customers to shop there.
Mike
"JNugent" <J...@NPPTG.com> wrote in message
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I believe I am correct in saying that the Tesco Supermarket in Lee Circle
Leicester was the first of the purpose built ones in about 1960/61. I worked
from home then during my short spell in Leicester, but had to go into the
City Office every Wednesday. We combined it with a trip to Tescos!!
WOW, such excitement! :-(( They had built a Multi Storey Car Park above and
it made it so easy!
JNugent
> "JNugent" <J...@NPPTG.com> wrote in message
> news:gJqdnZbtx8llHYrV...@pipex.net...
>> "St Georges Day April 23rd" wrote:
>>
>>> Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
>>> high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
>>> stores.
>> Tesco *started* in high street grocers' shops!
>>
>> The biggest leap forward in their early days was when they bought the
>> Irwin chain of "family grocers" and re-designed and re-branded the
>> premises as Tesco "supermarkets" (not too "super" in those days).
>>
>> So what "invasion" can this be?
>
> I believe I am correct in saying that the Tesco Supermarket in Lee Circle
> Leicester was the first of the purpose built ones in about 1960/61. I worked
> from home then during my short spell in Leicester, but had to go into the
> City Office every Wednesday. We combined it with a trip to Tescos!!
>
> WOW, such excitement! :-(( They had built a Multi Storey Car Park above and
> it made it so easy!
>
> Mike
You 'ad a car?
<sniff>
Luxury...
Mike
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Always had one. With the exception of when I was doing National Service in
the Royal Navy. Got married, 2 years NS, bought a house, then a car. Had at
least one ever since.
Brian Reay
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>To quote someone on one of the Radio 4 programmes 'The good thing
>about Sainsburys is that it keeps the riff-raff out of Waitrose'.
>Same could be said of Tesco. No-one forces customers to shop there.
I can't believe how "snobby" people are over supermarkets.
Supermarkets have brought relatively cheap food to the wider population.
Small shops were victims due to economics- people aren't prepared to pay a
premium. True supermarkets offer "processed food" but they also offer a
wide range of fresh food. Both are stocked to meet a demand.
A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
parking restrictions and poor roads.
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> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
> parking restrictions and poor roads.
Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
popularity with shoppers.
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> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
> parking restrictions and poor roads.
Let me guess ... another kiddie who's too young to remember the nose-to-tail
juggernauts grinding round the triangle.
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Brian Reay
"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
> []
>> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>> with
>> parking restrictions and poor roads.
>
> Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> popularity with shoppers.
Really? And how do they get there?
Trust me on this, if people can't get to shops they don't shop there.
In this area (Medway) there are several "town centres" (Rochester, Strood,
Chatham, Gillingham). All are dying. Lots of "pound shops".
They are all dirty, poorly served by public transport, and with poor
parking. The Council tried to "protect" them by all sorts of means, to no
avail. The latest plan it a "riverside development", not unlike one that
isn't quite complete a few miles away. They've not noticed that one has
"flopped"- in part probably due to their initial insistence on charging for
parking.
Oddly, the new Council offices not only has a large carpark but also a "park
and ride" system for employees from a larger remote carpark. Not only is it
in walking distance of the Council offices, it must be almost as close as
the bus station. Oddly, the buses aren't that popular. Maybe only the
Council transport dept are tree huggers.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
> > Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > []
> >> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> >> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
> >> with
> >> parking restrictions and poor roads.
> >
> > Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> > popularity with shoppers.
>
> Really? And how do they get there?
Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
Brian Reay
news:67pih1F...@mid.individual.net...
>
> Let me guess ... another kiddie who's too young to remember the
> nose-to-tail juggernauts grinding round the triangle.
Old enough to remember the days before juggernauts (and tree huggers who
think 4x4s are warming up the world).
JNugent
> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> []
>> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
>> parking restrictions and poor roads.
> Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> popularity with shoppers.
*Some* shoppers, maybe.
But for the more average
£100-a-pop-boot-full-for-a-family-of-four-on-a-Saturday morning shopper,
not being able to get there without hassle, or not being able to park
once arrived, or being ripped off for parking, are like erecting large
signs saying "Why Not Go To Tesco Out On The Ring Road Where The Parking
Is Free?".
The ones who walk to the shops aren't going to fill the coffers like the
ones in cars.
Dave
> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
> []
>
>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
>
>
> Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> popularity with shoppers.
How do you work that out?
My local 'council' has increased car parking from 20p/ hour to £1-00 for
3 hours for an outside town car park. This is one of the furthest car
parks from the town shopping centre. The car park that is on the other
side of the railway and is that much closer to the market is now 60
pence an hour, as against 30 pence last month.
Result, I will not shop there again.
Dave
Brian Reay
> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
>> > Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>> >
>> > []
>> >> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is
>> >> the
>> >> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>> >> with
>> >> parking restrictions and poor roads.
>> >
>> > Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
>> > popularity with shoppers.
>>
>> Really? And how do they get there?
>
> Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
Once you've got in your car, it makes sense to drive to the shops, esp. if
you can park free and shop in a clean environment.
Within 20 miles or so, I've got two excellent shopping centres for "serious"
shopping and several good supermarkets (Tesco, Sainsbury, Asda, Morrisons)
within maybe 6 miles. All with good parking, access and which are clean. Why
would I drive somewhere to park to then board expensive (and unreliable)
public transport to shop in a dirty town centre?
I suggest you recognise that the tree huggers haven't quite got the idea of
"customer demand" and not every believes that that today's green politics
are founded on anymore than the green politics of the last century (which
had bog all to do with the environment and a lot to do with envy).
Brian Reay
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> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
>> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> []
>>
>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>>>with
>>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
>>
>>
>> Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
>> popularity with shoppers.
>
> How do you work that out?
I suspect he is totally out of touch. Shoppers and cars are isolated in many
town centres- the high streets having been "pedestrianised" (which is a good
idea). However, further separation of cars and shops is totally counter
productive.
If people have a lot of shopping (more than a couple of bags) they aren't
going to hump them to a bus stop, onto the bus, of it, across some car park
and into their car if they have an alternative.
Ian F.
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> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
> with parking restrictions and poor roads.
IMO, a far greater threat to small shops is the ridiculous prices they
charge, the appalling quality of their produce and the sniffy,
couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-customer attitude of their owners and
staff.
Ian
tony sayer
<J...@NPPTG.com> scribeth thus
>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
>> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
>> []
>
>>> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres with
>>> parking restrictions and poor roads.
>
>> Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
>> popularity with shoppers.
>
>*Some* shoppers, maybe.
>
>But for the more average
>£100-a-pop-boot-full-for-a-family-of-four-on-a-Saturday morning shopper,
£150-00 odd these days please;!...
>not being able to get there without hassle, or not being able to park
>once arrived, or being ripped off for parking, are like erecting large
>signs saying "Why Not Go To Tesco Out On The Ring Road Where The Parking
>Is Free?".
>
>The ones who walk to the shops aren't going to fill the coffers like the
>ones in cars.
>
Mainly car less people anyway ... not all pensioners have BBC style
pensions;(...
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>"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
>news:GlMRj.1266$WA5...@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
>> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>> with parking restrictions and poor roads.
>
>IMO, a far greater threat to small shops is the ridiculous prices they
>charge,
Caused by the poor prices they get buying in stock, high landlord rents
and business rates etc..
>the appalling quality of their produce and the sniffy,
>couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-customer attitude of their owners and
>staff.
Ah!, thats the Brit way of shop keeping;....
>
>Ian
>
>
Who'd want to be a shopkeeper other then Mr Patel who doesn't seem to
mind working from 6 am till 11 PM...
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Jon Green
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:16:08 +0100, Aly <"<slfjh;sjb"@DFv3rjgn34> wrote:
>
>> "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:8fe328ba-3b0b-48cd...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
>>> high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
>>> stores.
>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and everything
>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who is
>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't have
>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>
> Aren't they Jewish owned?
Is there a point to the question?
Jon
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> news:GlMRj.1266$WA5...@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>> crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>> with parking restrictions and poor roads.
>
> Let me guess ... another kiddie who's too young to remember the
> nose-to-tail juggernauts grinding round the triangle.
So why can't we work out a way of getting rid of the juggernauts (like
building
a proper ringroad) and let the cars back in?
Chris
Dave
> Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
>>
>>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>[]
>>>
>>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>>>>with
>>>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
>>>
>>>Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
>>>popularity with shoppers.
>>
>>Really? And how do they get there?
>
>
> Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
from the shop to my car? The old town centre has been closed off to
traffic for some years now, before that, I could drive to the door of
the shop and load up within about 12 feet. It is a long trek from the
shop to where I can park and I am getting quite on in years now. Will
the bus driver allow the mattress on the bus while I get back to the car
park? I think not.
Dave
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
> > Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
> >>
> >>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>[]
> >>>
> >>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> >>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
> >>>>with
> >>>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
> >>>
> >>>Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> >>>popularity with shoppers.
> >>
> >>Really? And how do they get there?
> >
> >
> > Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
>
> So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
> from the shop to my car?
Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
Mike
>> So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
>> from the shop to my car?
>
> Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
>
Those without cars are aware of the restriction it places on them. Those
with cars do NOT expect restrictions. That is why they have cars.
Convenience
Dave
I shop for some items in our small local market and it is not sniffy at
all. I can get excellent fish, cheeses, sausage, black pudding, organic
eggs, organic chicken breasts, as well as lots of other foods that I
can't get at any of the big 4 supermarkets.
You are being very unfair here.
Dave
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> >>
> >> So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
> >> from the shop to my car?
> >
> > Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
> >
>
> Those without cars are aware of the restriction it places on them. Those
> with cars do NOT expect restrictions.
The car is the ultimate restriction.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
You can certainly get organic eggs and organic chicken (whole, breasts,
whatever) at the supermarkets. Maybe you need to pay more attention.
Dave
> Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>>>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
>>>>>popularity with shoppers.
>>>>
>>>>Really? And how do they get there?
>>>
>>>
>>>Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
>>
>>So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
>>from the shop to my car?
>
>
> Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
And pay through the nose for it.
Some things are not available in retail parks and have to be bought in
town centres. I am currently looking for a mini oven that is just an
oven and a grill. The out of town (comet/curies) can not supply me with
one, but an independent in my local town centre can. Now this shop is
even further than the one I described about the mattress.
Dave
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
> > Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>"David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)" <d4g...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1ig6jgp.56tgfu1mkuzu1N%d4g...@yahoo.co.uk...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Brian Reay <s...@website.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>[]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
> >>>>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
> >>>>>>with
> >>>>>>parking restrictions and poor roads.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Wrong. Restricting car access to town and city centres improves its
> >>>>>popularity with shoppers.
> >>>>
> >>>>Really? And how do they get there?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Public transport, which might include driving their cars to PT.
> >>
> >>So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
> >>from the shop to my car?
> >
> >
> > Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
>
> And pay through the nose for it.
People with cars pay through the nose for owning them.
Giusi
news:YJKdneYuTv5oNIXV...@bt.com...
Since it is mini it shouldn't be difficult to take on a bus, but you coulòd
take a taxi. One has to move something unwieldy like a mattress perhaps
once every two years, but keeps a car capable of moving it all the time.
When I move into town I plan to hire a car from the local garage when I need
one and do without the rest of the time. The "need" will be for work. It
will save me hundreds every month.
Dave
> 'Mike' <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>>So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
>>>>from the shop to my car?
>>>
>>>Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
>>>
>>
>>Those without cars are aware of the restriction it places on them. Those
>>with cars do NOT expect restrictions.
>
>
> The car is the ultimate restriction.
You have lived in the centre of Manchester for too long to appreciate a
town centre. I escaped that area a long time ago and I wouldn't even
dream of shopping there now. What's that poor shopping centre called?
Ah! Yes, the Trafford centre. What a poor quality thing it is. I have
been there twice and vowed never to return. If you remember, there was a
large aquarium in there and it was my nieces boy friend's job to look
after it. That didn't interest me either.
I can remember parking up and walking down Deansgate and Oxford street
many years ago and it was a delight to do. I didn't like the Arndale
centre, as I visited it during the winter and came out half an hour
later wringing with sweat. I never went there again. The best thing to
happen to that was the IRA blowing it up. With much regret from me about
those that died in that explosion.
Dave
Dave
> Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Ian F. wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Brian Reay" <s...@website.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:GlMRj.1266$WA5...@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>A far greater threat to small shops, especially in town centres, is the
>>>>crass stupidity of local councils who restrict access to town centres
>>>>with parking restrictions and poor roads.
>>>
>>>
>>>IMO, a far greater threat to small shops is the ridiculous prices they
>>>charge, the appalling quality of their produce and the sniffy,
>>>couldn't-give-a-damn-about-the-customer attitude of their owners and
>>>staff.
>>
>>I shop for some items in our small local market and it is not sniffy at
>>all. I can get excellent fish, cheeses, sausage, black pudding, organic
>>eggs, organic chicken breasts, as well as lots of other foods that I
>>can't get at any of the big 4 supermarkets.
>
>
> You can certainly get organic eggs and organic chicken (whole, breasts,
> whatever) at the supermarkets. Maybe you need to pay more attention.
But I can't buy organic chicken breast.
Dave
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*) wrote:
>
> > 'Mike' <3d&6...@woolies.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
> >>>>from the shop to my car?
> >>>
> >>>Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Those without cars are aware of the restriction it places on them. Those
> >>with cars do NOT expect restrictions.
> >
> >
> > The car is the ultimate restriction.
>
> You have lived in the centre of Manchester for too long to appreciate a
> town centre. I escaped that area a long time ago and I wouldn't even
> dream of shopping there now. What's that poor shopping centre called?
> Ah! Yes, the Trafford centre.
The Trafford centre is, for all intents and purposes, a suburban mall.
It is not in the centre of Manchester- indeed, it's not in Manchester,
and is several miles away.
> The best thing to
> happen to that was the IRA blowing it up. With much regret from me about
> those that died in that explosion.
Er, you've got a very poor memory.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
Then you didn't look hard enough. FFS, I saw it in a Sainsbury's _Local_
on the way home tonight...
Peter Hucker
> On Apr 29, 8:39 pm, "Ophelia" <Ophe...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>> Giusi wrote:
>> > "eBay seller" <e...@nospam.ebay.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
>> >news:etre14t8vvd4qs0ho...@4ax.com...
>> >> "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
>> >>>> everything
>> >>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of
>> >>>> customer who is
>> >>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would
>> >>>> otherwise avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture,
>> >>>> but Tesco doesn't have
>> >>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>>
>> >>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>>
>> >> No, Tesco is a PLC and is listed on the London and Dublin Stock
>> >> Exchanges. It was originally set up by Jack Cohen, who was Jewish,
>> >> but the public listing means that the share ownership is now very
>> >> widely spread indeed.
>>
>> >> The current Chairman, Sir Terry Leahy, is Roman Catholic having been
>> >> educated at St Edward's College, Liverpool. He obtained a 2:1 degree
>> >> in Management Sciences at the former University of Manchester
>> >> Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST) and joined Tesco
>> >> straight after graduating.
>>
>> > You are being an apologist to an anti-semitic racist and a snob. Watch out
>> > or they'll force you to rub elbows with the classes that
>> > shop at Tesco.
>>
>> LOL- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> To quote someone on one of the Radio 4 programmes 'The good thing
> about Sainsburys is that it keeps the riff-raff out of Waitrose'.
> Same could be said of Tesco. No-one forces customers to shop there.
I certainly don't. Asda is cheaper anyway.
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> "eBay seller" <eb...@nospam.ebay.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
> news:etre14t8vvd4qs0ho...@4ax.com...
>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
>>>> everything
>>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who
>>>> is
>>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>>>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't
>>>> have
>>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>>>
>>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>>
>>
>> No, Tesco is a PLC and is listed on the London and Dublin Stock
>> Exchanges. It was originally set up by Jack Cohen, who was Jewish,
>> but the public listing means that the share ownership is now very
>> widely spread indeed.
>>
>> The current Chairman, Sir Terry Leahy, is Roman Catholic having been
>> educated at St Edward's College, Liverpool. He obtained a 2:1 degree
>> in Management Sciences at the former University of Manchester
>> Institute of Science and Technology (UMIST) and joined Tesco straight
>> after graduating.
>>
> You are being an apologist to an anti-semitic racist and a snob. Watch out
> or they'll force you to rub elbows with the classes that shop at Tesco.
Who are you calling a snob?
What's the most sensitive part of your anatomy when you are masturbating?
Your ears.
Giusi
>
>>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would
>>>> otherwise
>>>> avoid.
That one that said that. A pedigree doesn't seem necessary to shop.
Peter Hucker
Jews are business first, everything else after.
Why is it that people say they "slept like a baby" when babies wake up every two hours?
Giusi
> Jews are business first, everything else after.
Which explains why they are so well represented as artists, composers,
scientists and teachers? How would the extraordinary level of philanthropy
among Jews be explained?
Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
Bruce
>You have lived in the centre of Manchester for too long to appreciate a
>town centre. I escaped that area a long time ago and I wouldn't even
>dream of shopping there now. What's that poor shopping centre called?
>Ah! Yes, the Trafford centre.
The Arndale Centre, surely? The world's largest public toilet.
The Trafford centre is an out-of-town shopping centre located just off
the M60. It is some miles from the city centre.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
> >You have lived in the centre of Manchester for too long to appreciate a
> >town centre. I escaped that area a long time ago and I wouldn't even
> >dream of shopping there now. What's that poor shopping centre called?
> >Ah! Yes, the Trafford centre.
>
>
> The Arndale Centre, surely? The world's largest public toilet.
It's completely transformed. I'm not a fan of shopping malls, but it's
fine. Very large, and bright. The success of Manchester's central
shopping zone is not just the Arndale, but all the other shops in the
area- in a semi-pedestrianised area. Still, you always get morons...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jJlsv2ZSIYE
Peter Hucker
They do it in france. They have signs with a picture of a lorry and "traverse interdite" (crossing the town centre is forbidden).
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Peter Hucker
I was told I was not dressed appropriately for Tesco. I told him I's shop at Asda in future.
A boy went up to his father and asked him, "Dad, what is the difference
between potentially and realistically?"
The father thought for a moment, then answered, "Go ask your mother if she
would sleep with Brad Pitt for a million dollars."
Then ask your sister if she would sleep with Brad Pitt for a million
dollars, and then, ask your brother if he'd sleep with Brad Pitt for a
million dollars. Come back and tell me what you learn from that."
So the boy went to his mother and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt for
a million dollars?" The mother replied, "Of
course I would! We could really use that money to fix up the house and send
you kids to a great University!"
The boy then went to his sister and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt
for a million dollars?" The girl replied, "Oh my God! I LOVE Brad Pitt I
would sleep with him in a heartbeat, are you nuts?!?!? "
The boy then went to his brother and asked, "Would you sleep with Brad Pitt
for a million dollars?" "Of course," the brother replied. "Do you know how
much a million bucks would buy?"
The boy pondered the answers for a few days, then went back to his dad. His
father asked him, "Did you find out the difference between potentially and
realistically?"
The boy replied, "Yes... Potentially, you and I are sitting on three million
dollars, but Realistically, we're living with two sluts and a queer.
Peter Hucker
You are such a fuckwit. Where above did I say business first was a bad thing? It makes them very rich.
Don't answer, you're not supposed to see this, but everyone else will, and make fun of you.
Madness takes its toll. Please have exact change ready.
Mike....
> Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
Twat him Jude!
this thread is quite amusing, my reader kills multi x posts, but you are a
"whitelist" Google poster, so I see you arging with ghosts :-)
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Ophelia
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:54:40 +0100, Giusi <decob...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>
>>> Jews are business first, everything else after.
>>
>> Which explains why they are so well represented as artists,
>> composers, scientists and teachers? How would the extraordinary
>> level of philanthropy among Jews be explained?
>>
>> Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
>
> You are such a fuckwit. Where above did I say business first was a
> bad thing? It makes them very rich.
>
> Don't answer, you're not supposed to see this, but everyone else
> will, and make fun of you.
No we won't.
Ian F.
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> I shop for some items in our small local market and it is not sniffy at
> all. I can get excellent fish, cheeses, sausage, black pudding, organic
> eggs, organic chicken breasts, as well as lots of other foods that I
> can't get at any of the big 4 supermarkets.
Maybe you're lucky where you are, then. Here in my part of south-west
London the local shops sell crap produce at inflated prices. At
supermarkets you can be assured of the quality and of competitive pricing.
And there is nothing small shops sell that you can't get better elsewhere
around here - we have a Waitrose and Sainsburys on our doorstep, and Tesco
and Asda nearby.
Ian
Mike....
fishing you out of the spam folder
>> So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
>> from the shop to my car?
>
> Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
no, you go to the out of town place like Bluewater by car, thats the
reality whatever might be said on NGs, of course you get double matresses
and fridges delivered. Its the medium stuff where its a problem, although
in our centre there are car pick up points round the back.
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Mike....
>> Those without cars are aware of the restriction it places on them. Those
>> with cars do NOT expect restrictions.
>
> The car is the ultimate restriction.
ROFL, what a fantasy!
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> Following up to d4g...@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor after
> fishing you out of the spam folder
>
> >> So please tell me how I get a large product (lets say a double mattress)
> >> from the shop to my car?
> >
> > Presumably in similar ways people without cars do.
>
> no, you go to the out of town place like Bluewater by car, thats the
> reality whatever might be said on NGs, of course you get double matresses
> and fridges delivered. Its the medium stuff where its a problem,
What problem?
Mike....
> Its the medium stuff where its a problem,
>
> What problem?
how about a little realism? Maybe you never buy bulky or heavy items and
dont want to take a day off work in two weeks times while its delivered, or
in the real world do the weekly shop or buy a couple of cases of wine on
impulse. (I know you are superman and can carry a weeks shopping and in any
case think weekly shops uncivilised) but the rest of us know whats
practical....like the sack of concrete i needed quickly the other day.
Peter Hucker
So you're a fuckwit too?
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David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
Like I said, what problem?
If you want a car, fine, that's up to you. But quit lecturing those of
us without one about the 'inconvenience' of not having one when you post
such utter garbage as the above.
Ophelia
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:49 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:54:40 +0100, Giusi <decob...@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>
>>>>> Jews are business first, everything else after.
>>>>
>>>> Which explains why they are so well represented as artists,
>>>> composers, scientists and teachers? How would the extraordinary
>>>> level of philanthropy among Jews be explained?
>>>>
>>>> Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
>>>
>>> You are such a fuckwit. Where above did I say business first was a
>>> bad thing? It makes them very rich.
>>>
>>> Don't answer, you're not supposed to see this, but everyone else
>>> will, and make fun of you.
>>
>> No we won't.
>
> So you're a fuckwit too?
Not at all arsehole:)))
We happen to like Guisi very much. On the other hand, you are a total
fuckwit:))))
Peter Hucker
> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:49 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:54:40 +0100, Giusi <decob...@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which explains why they are so well represented as artists,
>>>>> composers, scientists and teachers? How would the extraordinary
>>>>> level of philanthropy among Jews be explained?
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
>>>>
>>>> You are such a fuckwit. Where above did I say business first was a
>>>> bad thing? It makes them very rich.
>>>>
>>>> Don't answer, you're not supposed to see this, but everyone else
>>>> will, and make fun of you.
>>>
>>> No we won't.
>>
>> So you're a fuckwit too?
>
> Not at all arsehole:)))
>
> We happen to like Guisi very much. On the other hand, you are a total
> fuckwit:))))
State reasoning.
Shotgun wedding: A case of wife or death.
Ophelia
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:46 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:49 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:54:40 +0100, Giusi <decob...@yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which explains why they are so well represented as artists,
>>>>>> composers, scientists and teachers? How would the extraordinary
>>>>>> level of philanthropy among Jews be explained?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't answer, I'm killfiling you for being a bigot.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are such a fuckwit. Where above did I say business first was
>>>>> a bad thing? It makes them very rich.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't answer, you're not supposed to see this, but everyone else
>>>>> will, and make fun of you.
>>>>
>>>> No we won't.
>>>
>>> So you're a fuckwit too?
>>
>> Not at all arsehole:)))
>>
>> We happen to like Guisi very much. On the other hand, you are a
>> total fuckwit:))))
>
> State reasoning.
Oh must I? Ok... well, you look like a fuckwit, you sound like a fuckwit
and you smell like a fuckwit. I rest my case:)
Life is good, be happy:))
Roland Perry
Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Dave <dave...@btopenworld.com> remarked:
>I shop for some items in our small local market and it is not sniffy at
>all. I can get excellent fish, cheeses, sausage, black pudding, organic
>eggs, organic chicken breasts, as well as lots of other foods that I
>can't get at any of the big 4 supermarkets.
Organic eggs and organic chicken breasts are available at all big
supermarkets.
--
Roland Perry
Mike....
>> how about a little realism? Maybe you never buy bulky or heavy items and
>> dont want to take a day off work in two weeks times while its delivered, or
>> in the real world do the weekly shop or buy a couple of cases of wine on
>> impulse. (I know you are superman and can carry a weeks shopping and in any
>> case think weekly shops uncivilised) but the rest of us know whats
>> practical....like the sack of concrete i needed quickly the other day.
>
> Like I said, what problem?
>
> If you want a car, fine, that's up to you. But quit lecturing those of
> us without one about the 'inconvenience' of not having one when you post
> such utter garbage as the above.
"utter garbage"? Ridiculous. I'm not lecturing you, *you* started it with
some nonsense about how ristricting cars are, maybe thats true if your life
in in city centres, for most its laughable.
f you don't want a car, fine, that's up to you. But quit lecturing those of
us with one.
Ophelia
This is true, but how much better to support local markets.
David Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)
> Following up to d4g...@yahoo.co.ukDavid Horne, _the_ chancellor
>
> >> how about a little realism? Maybe you never buy bulky or heavy items and
> >> dont want to take a day off work in two weeks times while its delivered, or
> >> in the real world do the weekly shop or buy a couple of cases of wine on
> >> impulse. (I know you are superman and can carry a weeks shopping and in any
> >> case think weekly shops uncivilised) but the rest of us know whats
> >> practical....like the sack of concrete i needed quickly the other day.
> >
> > Like I said, what problem?
> >
> > If you want a car, fine, that's up to you. But quit lecturing those of
> > us without one about the 'inconvenience' of not having one when you post
> > such utter garbage as the above.
>
> "utter garbage"? Ridiculous.
Yes, your arguments were. Parroting my points doesn't further yours.
HTH.
Jon Green
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:42:52 +0100, Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:16:08 +0100, Aly <"<slfjh;sjb"@DFv3rjgn34> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:8fe328ba-3b0b-48cd...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Tesco has been accused of unleashing an "unstoppable invasion" of the
>>>>> high street by stepping up the pace at which it opens neighbourhood
>>>>> stores.
>>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and everything
>>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who is
>>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>>>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't have
>>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>> Is there a point to the question?
>
> Jews are business first, everything else after.
Keep digging that hole for yourself. Stop when you see kangaroos, is my
advice.
Jon
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Brian Morrison
>>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>> Is there a point to the question?
>
> Jews are business first, everything else after.
>
Know any, do you?
--
Brian
Roland Perry
May 2008, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> remarked:
>>> I shop for some items in our small local market and it is not sniffy
>>> at all. I can get excellent fish, cheeses, sausage, black pudding,
>>> organic eggs, organic chicken breasts, as well as lots of other
>>> foods that I can't get at any of the big 4 supermarkets.
>>
>> Organic eggs and organic chicken breasts are available at all big
>> supermarkets.
>
>This is true, but how much better to support local markets.
I don't have a local market at all. There's a non-local (indoor) market
in the centre of the City (of Nottingham) but it's an awful long way to
go just to buy some food (and I'm not sure what they sell there is
better quality than a supermarket).
--
Roland Perry
Ophelia
I am arguing against nowt:)) All I am saying is, where there is local
shopping, it is good to shop there:)
Brian Watson
"Peter Hucker" <no...@spam.com> wrote in message
news:op.uadwxeaz4buhsv@fx62...
>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
>> everything
>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who
>> is
>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't
>> have
>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>
> Aren't they Jewish owned?
Irrelevant, except that no good Jewish boy would sell his mother or his
grandmother.
:-)
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
Mike
"Brian Watson" <WACC...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6802jmF...@mid.individual.net...
Afraid they are both long since dead :-((
Mike
--
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'THE' Association to find your ex-Greenie mess mates.
CP
> "Peter Hucker" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:op.uadwxeaz4buhsv@fx62...
>
> >> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and
> >> everything
> >> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who
> >> is
> >> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
> >> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't
> >> have
> >> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>
> > Aren't they Jewish owned?
>
> Irrelevant, except that no good Jewish boy would sell his mother or his
> grandmother.
Irrelevant shmerelevant! If the price were right, boychik..... ;-)
Peter Hucker
Evidence not accepted.
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Ophelia
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:44:07 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:46 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:49 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No we won't.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you're a fuckwit too?
>>>>
>>>> Not at all arsehole:)))
>>>>
>>>> We happen to like Guisi very much. On the other hand, you are a
>>>> total fuckwit:))))
>>>
>>> State reasoning.
>>
>> Oh must I? Ok... well, you look like a fuckwit, you sound like a
>> fuckwit and you smell like a fuckwit. I rest my case:)
>>
>> Life is good, be happy:))
>
> Evidence not accepted.
tough:))
Peter Hucker
> Peter Hucker wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:42:52 +0100, Jon Green <jo...@deadspam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:16:08 +0100, Aly <"<slfjh;sjb"@DFv3rjgn34> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "St Georges Day April 23rd" <bbbbbdfg...@googlemail.com> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:8fe328ba-3b0b-48cd...@u36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Well, I don't shop at Tesco on principle. I hate the places and everything
>>>>> that they stand for. They also attract a certain class of customer who is
>>>>> invariably rude, has attitude, is sloveny, and which you would otherwise
>>>>> avoid. Note: I am not a prude. I'm all for culture, but Tesco doesn't have
>>>>> any! They'd sell their own GrandMother.
>>>> Aren't they Jewish owned?
>>> Is there a point to the question?
>>
>> Jews are business first, everything else after.
>
> Keep digging that hole for yourself. Stop when you see kangaroos, is my
> advice.
There's no hole. It's a well known fact Jews are even meaner thn Scots.
A guy traveling through the prairies of the USA stopped at a small town and went to a bar.
He stood at the end of the bar, ordered a drink, and lit up a cigar.
As he sipped his drink, he stood there quietly blowing smoke rings.
After he blew nine or ten smoke rings into the air, an angry American Indian stomped up to him and said,
"One more remark like that and I'll whip your butt!"
Peter Hucker
Yes.
When the office printer's type began to grow faint, the office manager called a local repair shop where a friendly service agent told him that the printer probably only needed a thorough cleaning. Because the store charged $50 for such
cleanings, he said, the manager might try reading the printer's manual and doing the job himself.
Pleasantly surprised by the man's candor, the office manager asked, "Does your boss know that you discourage business!?"
"Actually it's my boss's idea," the employee replied. "We usually make more money on repairs if we let people try to fix things themselves first."
Peter Hucker
It's not a valid insult without evidence. You have achieved nothing.
Girls....
If you want to piss off your mother, here's what I suggest.
The next time you're out driving around, and your mum's in the car, stop in front of the local strip club.
Put the car in park, turn to your mother, and say, "I'll be right back. I just have to run in and pick up my cheque."
Peter Hucker
I do not wish to take out a 2nd mortgage.
A New York man was forced to take a day off from work to
appear for a minor traffic summons. He grew increasingly
restless as he waited hour after endless hour for his case to be
heard.
When his name was called late in the afternoon, he stood
before the judge, only to hear that court would be adjourned for
the next day and he would have to return the next day.
"What for?" he snapped at the judge.
His honor, equally irked by a tedious day and sharp query
roared, "Twenty dollars contempt of court. That's why!"
Then, noticing the man checking his wallet, the judge relented.
"That's all right. You don't have to pay now."
The young man replied, "I'm just seeing if I have enough for two
more words."
Ophelia
> On Fri, 02 May 2008 19:16:25 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:44:07 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:07:46 +0100, Ophelia <Oph...@nix.co.uk>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Hucker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not at all arsehole:)))
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We happen to like Guisi very much. On the other hand, you are a
>>>>>> total fuckwit:))))
>>>>>
>>>>> State reasoning.
>>>>
>>>> Oh must I? Ok... well, you look like a fuckwit, you sound like a
>>>> fuckwit and you smell like a fuckwit. I rest my case:)
>>>>
>>>> Life is good, be happy:))
>>>
>>> Evidence not accepted.
>>
>> tough:))
>
> It's not a valid insult without evidence. You have achieved nothing.
For me, I did and let's face it, for me that is all that matters:))
Peter Hucker
Self-obsessed cunt then?
When you write copy, you have the right to copyright the
copy you write, if the copy is right. If however, your copy falls
over, you must right your copy. If you write religious services
you write rite, and have the right to copyright the rite you
write.
Very conservative people write right copy, and have the right
to copyright the right copy they write. A right wing cleric
would write right rite, and has the right to copyright the right
rite he has the right to write. His editor has the job of making
the right rite copy right before the copyright can be right.
Should Thom Wright decide to write right rite, then Wright
would write right rite, which Wright has the right to copyright.
Duplicating that rite would copy Wright right rite, and violate
copyright, which Wright would have the right to right.
Right?