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Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:44:17 AM3/29/02
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"Nick Leverton" <ni...@leverton.org> wrote in message
news:a80e4p$qtd$1...@warren.leverton.org...
| In article <a804fr$olije$1...@ID-98167.news.dfncis.de>,
| Peter Smyth <psm...@ukf.net> wrote:
| >
| >"Chris Croughton" <ch...@keristor.org> wrote in message
| >news:rfd1-uk.rec.cannabis-20020328162209$6d...@clw.cs.man.ac.uk...
| >> uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis Cannabis use and abuse in the UK
| >
| >uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis???? This is a ridiculous name. There is no
| >way cannabis could be described as food or drink. uk.rec.drugs.cannabis
| >seems the most sensible name.
|
| Food and drink is an effective and very safe way of consuming cannabis,
| whether cooked with or in alcohol. I can see where the idea comes from.
| I agree about u.r.d.c though.

Subscribers to the uk.food+drink.* should be aware that there is a
proposal to create a newsgroup uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis. Not strictly
part of the uk.food+drink hierarchy but near to that.

< Crossposted to uk.food+drink.*>

*******************************************
<<<<follow up set to uk.net.news.config>>>>
*******************************************

Dave F

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The whole of the RFD is reproduced below, for information:

"Chris Croughton" <ch...@keristor.org> wrote in message
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| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
|
| REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
|
| This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
| in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
|
| create unmoderated newsgroup uk.rec.cannabis (or similar)
|
| Newsgroup lines:
| uk.rec.cannabis Cannabis use and abuse in the UK
| OR
| uk.rec.drugs.cannabis Cannabis use and abuse in the UK
| OR
| uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis Cannabis use and abuse in the UK
| OR
| uk.sci.med.cannabis Medical aspects of cannabis use and abuse
|
|
| *** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***
|
| This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
| Further procedural details are given below.
|
| RATIONALE: uk.rec.cannabis
|
| There is currently no newsgroup dedicated to the use and abuse of
| cannabis and derived products in the UK. Currently discussions take
| place on many groups where generally they are off-topic, there is a fair
| amount of discussion but not generally correlated (people in one group
| don't always realise that there are others with the same interest).
|
| Note that in this RFD I have used uk.rec.cannabis as the name of the
| group, please read this as whichever name is chosen.
|
| Note also that other suggestions for names are welcomed, the above are
| ones which were mentioned in the pre-RFD discussions.
|
| CHARTER: uk.rec.cannabis
|
| This newsgroup is for those interested in the use and abuse of cannabis
| and derived products. This includes (but is not limited to) the legal,
| political and medical ramifications of obtaining and using the drug,
| symptoms and side-effects. The primary focus of the group is on use of
| cannabis in the UK, although related international issues may be raised
| when appropriate (EU rulings, for instance).
|
| Note that this group is NOT an appropriate place to ask "Where can I get
| some?", at least while cannabis is still illegal. Nor is it a place to
| recommend places to obtain it.
|
| Advertising
|
| Advertising is forbidden, while cannabis is illegal there are no
| appropriate advertisements.
|
| Cross-posting
|
| Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to
| more than a TOTAL of four newsgroups, and then only where the subject
| matter is appropriate to the other groups; followups should be set when
| appropriate and extra newsgroups trimmed when the topic is no longer
| appropriate.
|
| Binaries & Formatting
|
| Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are
| forbidden. Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which
| a pointer may be posted. Cryptographic signatures (e.g. PGP)
| may be used where authentication is important and should be as
| short as possible.
|
| Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
| formatted messages are prohibited. To see how to make some
| common newsreaders comply with this, read
| <http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
|
| END CHARTER
|
| PROCEDURE:
|
| This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase
| of the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be
| raised
| and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
| days, starting from when this RFD is posted to uk.net.news.announce
| (i.e. until April 8th) after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
| posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
| Alternatively, the proposal may proceed by the fast-track method.
| Please do not attempt to vote until this happens.
|
| This RFD attempts to comply fully with the "Guidelines for Group
| Creation within the UK Hierarchy" as published regularly in
| uk.net.news.announce. Please refer to this document if you have any
| questions about the process.
|
| DISTRIBUTION:
|
| This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
| uk.net.news.announce
| uk.net.news.config
| uk.politics.drugs
|
| Proponent:
| Chris Croughton <ch...@keristor.org>
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Decobabe

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Mar 29, 2002, 11:19:06 AM3/29/02
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This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted with
all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?
I don't care what is being formed because I don't have to subscribe to it,
do I?
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www.tonez.co.uk

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"Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
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> This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted with
> all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?
> I don't care what is being formed because I don't have to subscribe to it,
> do I?

No one can force you!

alt.drugs.pot is already a good group subscribed to heavily by UK pot smokers.
Is there a need for another group?


Bob McNish

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Mar 29, 2002, 1:29:00 PM3/29/02
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:43:05 -0000, "www.tonez.co.uk"
<please.reply...@or.visit.tonez.co.uk> wrote:

>"Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
>news:Dx0p8.91924$1S3.2...@twister1.libero.it...
>> This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted with
>> all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?
>> I don't care what is being formed because I don't have to subscribe to it,
>> do I?
>
>No one can force you!

No, but we are being forced to read a RFD that wasn't originally
posted to this NG thanks to one inconsiderate person.

Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:29:50 PM3/29/02
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:19:06 +0100, "Decobabe"
<decobab...@libero.it> wrote:

>This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted with
>all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?
>I don't care what is being formed because I don't have to subscribe to it,
>do I?

Please mind your own business, and do not top post in this NG again.
--
Dave Fawthrop

Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:30:56 PM3/29/02
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 18:29:00 +0000, Bob McNish <highlander@home>
wrote:

>>No one can force you!
>
>No, but we are being forced to read a RFD that wasn't originally
>posted to this NG thanks to one inconsiderate person.

You are a troll.
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Dave Fawthrop

Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 29, 2002, 2:58:46 PM3/29/02
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"Dave Fawthrop" <fawt...@boxfrog.com> wrote in message
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Bad forgery

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Dave Fawthrop <da...@hyphenologist.co.uk> My usenet posts from 19/12/01
are PGP signed. PK 0x765AB578. Please. verify & advise bad sigs.
Anything posted from cvx163-144.dccl.net is a forgery.
Forgeries, false PGP sigs and forged quotations abound. Beware :-(

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Dave Fawthrop

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"Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
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| This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted
| with all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?

It is a requirement on uk.* for a Request For Discussion be posted to
associated newsgroups in order that those posters likely to have an
interest in the proposed newsgroup may take part in the discussion about
the proposed new newsgroup if they wish. It is always difficult to
determine which newsgroups may be associated with the proposed new
newsgroup. In this case only uk.politics.drugs was considered to be
associated.

As the new newsgroup would, de facto, have the effect of defining cannabis
as a food or drink within the uk.* hierarchy, it appears likely that those
already subscribed to uk.food+drink.*, such as yourself, may have an
opinion and may wish to take part in the discussion.

BTW any discussion on uf+dm will not be seen by the proponent and will
have no effect on the discussion, or subsequent RFDs.

Dave F


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Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 29, 2002, 5:25:26 PM3/29/02
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On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 19:58:46 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:


>| You are a troll.
>| --
>| Dave Fawthrop
>
>Bad forgery

It is not a forgery.
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Dave Fawthrop <fawt...@boxfrog.com>
My usenet posts are *never* PGP signed.
Anything posted from btopenworld.com is a forgery of me.

Decobabe

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Mar 30, 2002, 1:21:20 AM3/30/02
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I have done it deliberately to avoid forcing anyone to read the mess
involved. Cannabis is NOT food or drink, merely a mildly entertaining drug.
Your post is not a request for discussion, it is just a messy crossposting.
Stuff your advice to me, stuff your continuous crossposting, and your
endless sqabbles with other groups.
For some people, a google search that places them on some newsgroups as a
poster could help an angry spouse or lover menace their jobs or custody of
their children. The world is NOT Yorkshire.

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Dave Fawthrop

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As several of you have noticed, I am being forged wholesale on
uk.food+drink.*
I have been on Usenet since 1996 and am a foodie of long standing.
My posting style is irritatingly quite and downbeat under all
circumstances.

My main cooking is done at home, limited by June who is an excellent cook.
I also cook for
Bradford Curry Project <bradfordcu...@hyphenologist.co.uk>
http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/bradfordcurryproject
and other organisations helping the needy.

The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a Killfile
FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
campaign against me :-(

The impostor posts as from <fawt...@boxfrog.com>
AFAIK all killfiles will kill on email address, so you can killfile on
this and leave my own posts from hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk untouched.

For how to killfile with your newsreader see sig.


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Dave Fawthrop <da...@hyphenologist.co.uk> Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs
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Jane Willis

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Dave Fawthrop <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote in message
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> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> As several of you have noticed, I am being forged wholesale on
> uk.food+drink.*
> I have been on Usenet since 1996 and am a foodie of long standing.
> My posting style is irritatingly quite and downbeat under all
> circumstances.
>
> My main cooking is done at home, limited by June who is an excellent
cook.
> I also cook for
> Bradford Curry Project <bradfordcu...@hyphenologist.co.uk>
> http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/bradfordcurryproject
> and other organisations helping the needy.
>
> The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a
Killfile
> FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
> campaign against me

>

Dave Fawthrop

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"Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
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| Cannabis is NOT food or drink, merely a mildly entertaining drug.

That is *exactly* my point. IMHO uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis is a *bad*
name.
If you went over to unnc, you would find a post by me agreeing with you.
If you wish to make your point more forcefully it will be necessary to
post
to unnc and vote on the RFD when/if a CFV is issued.

|
| "Dave Fawthrop" <fawt...@boxfrog.com> wrote in message
| news:95g9au0rt9krpn2bn...@4ax.com...
| > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:19:06 +0100, "Decobabe"
| > <decobab...@libero.it> wrote:
| >
| > >This is way over the top! Tell me one reason I should be confronted
with
| > >all this crap on a food+drink newsgroup?
| > >I don't care what is being formed because I don't have to subscribe
| > >to
| it,
| > >do I?
| >
| > Please mind your own business, and do not top post in this NG again.
| > --
| > Dave Fawthrop
|

BTW Boxfrog is a forgery not me (see post on killfiling).


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Dave Fawthrop <da...@hyphenologist.co.uk> My usenet posts from 19/12/01
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Forgeries, false PGP sigs and forged quotations abound. Beware :-(

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Decobabe

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"Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
> news:lPcp8.92131$%g7.29...@twister2.libero.it...
>
> | Cannabis is NOT food or drink, merely a mildly entertaining drug.
>
> That is *exactly* my point. IMHO uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis is a *bad*
> name.

I was way ahead of you on that.


Dave Fawthrop

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"Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message

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Were you posting this before my post
Message-ID: <a81bgk$ohea0$1...@ID-88541.news.dfncis.de>
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 09:21:35 -0000 ?

Dave F

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Paul Rooney

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 07:21:20 +0100, "Decobabe"
<decobab...@libero.it> wrote:

>I have done it deliberately to avoid forcing anyone to read the mess
>involved. Cannabis is NOT food or drink

It's a cake ingredient and a drink substitute.

Paul

Adrian Marsh Tupper

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Mar 30, 2002, 12:47:18 PM3/30/02
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The message <M4jp8.96627$1S3.3...@twister1.libero.it>
from "Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> contains these words:

And I'm following.

It has nothing to do with food+drink. If someone wants to create a
food+drink subgroup (with or without a .rec in it) then quite
frankly, why should I care? I don't have to subscribe to it. It's
only a name.

I don't see the point of this thread at all and I only assume it was
started as a troll.

--
Adrian


Dave Fawthrop

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Mar 30, 2002, 2:34:13 PM3/30/02
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:47:18 +0100, Adrian Marsh Tupper
<adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

>I don't see the point of this thread at all and I only assume it was
>started as a troll.

Yes, my forger does that a lot :-(

Dave Fawthrop

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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:26:20 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

>For how to killfile with your newsreader see sig.

Please don't crosspost unnecessarily.

swroot

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Mar 30, 2002, 4:48:55 PM3/30/02
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Adrian Marsh Tupper <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> The message <M4jp8.96627$1S3.3...@twister1.libero.it>
> from "Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> contains these words:
>
>
>
> > "Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:a849er$pihbc$1...@ID-88541.news.dfncis.de...
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > "Decobabe" <decobab...@libero.it> wrote in message
> > > news:lPcp8.92131$%g7.29...@twister2.libero.it...
> > >
> > > | Cannabis is NOT food or drink, merely a mildly entertaining drug.
> > >
> > > That is *exactly* my point. IMHO uk.rec.food+drink.cannabis is a *bad*
> > > name.
>
> > I was way ahead of you on that.
>
> And I'm following.
>
> It has nothing to do with food+drink.

It can, though. Hash brownies are a traditional delicacy in some
places/times. I suppose technically one could discuss how to deal with
the munchies as well, but it does seem a trifle tenuous.


regards
sarah


--
legs to walk and thoughts to fly
eyes to laugh and lips to cry
a restless tongue to classify
all born to grow and grown to die

Not Invented Here

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:52:14 PM3/31/02
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[tight beam, M32, tra.] xGCU Dave Fawthrop <fawt...@boxfrog.com>
ouk.food+drink.misc(Orbital)

> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:47:18 +0100, Adrian Marsh Tupper
> <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I don't see the point of this thread at all and I only assume it was
>>started as a troll.
>
> Yes, my forger does that a lot :-(

Makes all that PGP Signed Mesaage stuff a little ... pointless?

Not Invented Here

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Mar 31, 2002, 4:56:02 PM3/31/02
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[tight beam, M32, tra.] xGCU "Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk>
ouk.food+drink.misc(Orbital)

I don't know if you are Dave Fawthrop or Dave Fawthrop. Anyway, can someone
tell me why anyone on uk.food+drink.misc should care what the new newsgroup
is called? I mean, it's only a name. But then again so is Dave Fawthrop.

Jane Willis

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Halla <Ha...@ihateclowns.com> wrote in message
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> -> begin quote Kevin Andreoli <ke...@andreoli.co.uk> on Sat, 30 Mar
> 2002 14:53:52 -0000:
>
> >On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 09:20:51 -0000, in article <a83vun$pd75u$1@ID-
> >85693.news.dfncis.de>, I saw that Jane Willis wrote...
> >
> >Nothing - just copied Fawthrop's posting
> >
> >Join all versions of him in the bozo bin!
> >
> >*PLONK*
>
> Heh. Kev, you'll do yourself a *massive* disservice k/f Jane, but if
> you fell you must...
>
> I wondered whether the repeat was an error, or Jane's way of letting
> those who *have* k.f on name see Dave#1's post?

That's exactly what it was - I was trying to let people see that there
were two Dave Fs and those who have the original killfiled would need
to kill the new one separately. I thought it would be helpful - I also
thought it was so obvious what I was doing that there was no need to
comment.
*sigh* but if I'm now kf'd, I suppose somebody will have to do the same
for me. And then they'll get kf'd. And so on and so on........

Jane


swroot

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Apr 1, 2002, 1:09:11 PM4/1/02
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Jane Willis <jane....@ntlworld.com> wrote:

You are't in my killfile! The original DF is, though and any other that
I see is deleted unread.


regards
sarah


Greetings, denizens of other food groups.

Michael Berridge

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Apr 1, 2002, 2:11:29 PM4/1/02
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Halla wrote in message ...

>
>Reminds me of the scene in Yellow Submarine when that sucker-beast
>ends up swallowing itself up. :-)

No problem with Outlook Express as you kill file on either the posters
name, so no matter what the e mail address is used I will not see any of
his posts, unless someone copies them in their reply, or you can kill
file on key words in subject line.

Mike
www.british-naturism.org.uk


Kevin S. Wilson

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Apr 2, 2002, 4:53:48 PM4/2/02
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On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:26:20 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

>The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a Killfile
>FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
>campaign against me :-(

You forgot to mention that your Anti-Troll FAQ is grossly incorrect,
beginning with a faulty definition of trolling. And you forgot to
mention your annoying habit of spamming your killfile FAQ to dozens of
groups whenever your google searches on "killfile" yield results.

BTW, isn't a FAQ a collection of answers to Frequently Asked
Questions? Who the hell asked you about trolling or killfiles in the
first place?

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Kevin S. Wilson
Tech Writer at a University Somewhere in Idaho

Dave Fawthrop

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| On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:26:20 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
| <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:
|
| >The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a Killfile
| >FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
| >campaign against me :-(

Now I do know of a group who object stongly to both FAQs with good reason.
Are you a member of that group??????

| You forgot to mention that your Anti-Troll FAQ is grossly incorrect,
| beginning with a faulty definition of trolling.

Your opinion differs from my experiance.
I could defend every point at length but that would be totally OT here.

| And you forgot to
| mention your annoying habit of spamming your killfile FAQ to dozens of
| groups whenever your google searches on "killfile" yield results.

I only answer direct questions, with a link and do not post either FAQ in
toto. I get about 30% thank you followups, Check, plus 10% thankyou and
helpful emails for each post.

| BTW, isn't a FAQ a collection of answers to Frequently Asked
| Questions? Who the hell asked you about trolling or killfiles in the
| first place?

"What is a Troll" and "How do I use a killfile" are Frequently asked
Questions throughout usenet.

<trollpit deleted>


- --
Dave Fawthrop <da...@hyphenologist.co.uk> Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs
at http://www.hyphenologist.co.uk/killfile. The Trolls hate the FAQs,
this sig, and me. They also forge my posts wholesale, and follow up
with baseless accusations. My posts are PGP signed. PK 0x765AB578


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Matthew Malthouse

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Apr 3, 2002, 2:31:26 AM4/3/02
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In article <a82oig$p3lm5$3...@ID-88541.news.dfncis.de>,
"Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

} Bad forgery

Right "fawthrop", not case sensitive, now scored -9999 if appearing in
"Subject:", "From:" or text.

Matthew

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Kevin S. Wilson

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:29:17 PM4/3/02
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:05:14 +0100, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

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>"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@micron.net> wrote in message
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>| On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:26:20 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
>| <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:
>|
>| >The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a Killfile
>| >FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
>| >campaign against me :-(
>
>Now I do know of a group who object stongly to both FAQs with good reason.
>Are you a member of that group??????

I dunno. Are you talking to me? You appear to be talking to yourself.

>| You forgot to mention that your Anti-Troll FAQ is grossly incorrect,
>| beginning with a faulty definition of trolling.
>
>Your opinion differs from my experiance.
>I could defend every point at length but that would be totally OT here.

You seem to believe that "trolling" means "people being mean to Dave
Fawthrop on Usenet." You are mistaken.

>| And you forgot to
>| mention your annoying habit of spamming your killfile FAQ to dozens of
>| groups whenever your google searches on "killfile" yield results.
>
>I only answer direct questions,

So you're denying that you search Usenet for instances of "killfile"
and "troll," then follow up to the messages you find? You wouldn't
have otherwise come to my attention.

> with a link and do not post either FAQ in
>toto. I get about 30% thank you followups, Check, plus 10% thankyou and
>helpful emails for each post.

"Check"? What in the world are you blabbering about? And what the hell
is a "thankyou and helpful" email?

>| BTW, isn't a FAQ a collection of answers to Frequently Asked
>| Questions? Who the hell asked you about trolling or killfiles in the
>| first place?
>
>"What is a Troll" and "How do I use a killfile" are Frequently asked
>Questions throughout usenet.

So is "Why is Dave Fawthrop such a bozo?" but you don't see me rushing
to compile a FAQ on the subject.

><trollpit deleted>
>
I fixed your newsgroups line for you. HTH.

LawnBoy

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Apr 3, 2002, 4:54:37 PM4/3/02
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"Kevin S. Wilson" wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:05:14 +0100, "Dave Fawthrop"
> <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

> >"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@micron.net> wrote in message
> >news:3caa27c6...@news.micron.net...

> >| You forgot to mention that your Anti-Troll FAQ is grossly incorrect,


> >| beginning with a faulty definition of trolling.
> >
> >Your opinion differs from my experiance.
> >I could defend every point at length but that would be totally OT here.

You could, but we would just laugh at you. Let's see
you defend the statement that trolls are equivalent
to child murderers. This should be entertaining...



> You seem to believe that "trolling" means "people being mean to Dave
> Fawthrop on Usenet." You are mistaken.
>
> >| And you forgot to
> >| mention your annoying habit of spamming your killfile FAQ to dozens of
> >| groups whenever your google searches on "killfile" yield results.
> >
> >I only answer direct questions,
>
> So you're denying that you search Usenet for instances of "killfile"
> and "troll," then follow up to the messages you find? You wouldn't
> have otherwise come to my attention.

> > with a link and do not post either FAQ in
> > toto. I get about 30% thank you followups, Check,

Which leaves 70% "what is this crap!"

> > plus 10% thankyou and
> >helpful emails for each post.
>
> "Check"? What in the world are you blabbering about? And what the hell
> is a "thankyou and helpful" email?

You know, "the lurkers support me in email". The cry
of the morally bankrupt.



> >| BTW, isn't a FAQ a collection of answers to Frequently Asked
> >| Questions? Who the hell asked you about trolling or killfiles in the
> >| first place?
> >
> >"What is a Troll" and "How do I use a killfile" are Frequently asked
> >Questions throughout usenet.

But not in this newsfroup (a.r.k.) So why did you post it here?



> So is "Why is Dave Fawthrop such a bozo?" but you don't see me rushing
> to compile a FAQ on the subject.

The answer to that is so obvious. Dave Fawthrop is such a bozo
because he wants everybody to be just like him. There is no room
in this wide world for opinions contrary to dear Dave's.

Net Nazi's should die.

--><--
LawnBoy

Adrian Marsh Tupper

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Apr 3, 2002, 5:12:41 PM4/3/02
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from res...@micron.net (Kevin S. Wilson) contains these words:

> I fixed your newsgroups line for you. HTH.

Ah, kibology. The science of kebabs?

Is it worth subscribing to?

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Adrian

Zixia

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Adrian Marsh Tupper devised a cunning plan:

No-one subscirbes any more. Just 'click' with your 'mouse' 'button' on
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Ben Allard

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:11:57 PM4/3/02
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Adrian Marsh Tupper <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Ah, kibology. The science of kebabs?

Hey, it's easier than kibomancy.

> Is it worth subscribing to?

You already have.

--ben

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Apr 3, 2002, 6:41:01 PM4/3/02
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On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 08:05:14 +0100, "Dave Fawthrop"
<hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:

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>"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@micron.net> wrote in message
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>| On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 08:26:20 -0000, "Dave Fawthrop"
>| <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:
>|
>| >The ?reason? I am being forged is simple, on my web site are a Killfile
>| >FAQ and an Anti Troll FAQ which. This is but one example of a long
>| >campaign against me :-(
>
>Now I do know of a group who object stongly to both FAQs with good reason.
>Are you a member of that group??????

Do you suffer from paranoia Mr Fawthrop? It's just that you seem to
rant and ramble about being persecuted by trolls in nearly every
newsgroup you post to.

>| And you forgot to
>| mention your annoying habit of spamming your killfile FAQ to dozens of
>| groups whenever your google searches on "killfile" yield results.
>
>I only answer direct questions, with a link

Do you don a cape and wear your underpants over your tights too?

Da Da Daa! Dave 'Killfile' Fawthrop - Banisher of trolls!

>| BTW, isn't a FAQ a collection of answers to Frequently Asked
>| Questions? Who the hell asked you about trolling or killfiles in the
>| first place?
>
>"What is a Troll" and "How do I use a killfile" are Frequently asked
>Questions throughout usenet.

And from what I've seen, you reply to every one of them with your URL!

Man, that's sad.

David DeLaney

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Apr 4, 2002, 1:33:39 AM4/4/02
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Adrian Marsh Tupper <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>The message <3cab72a3...@news.micron.net>
>from res...@micron.net (Kevin S. Wilson) contains these words:
>
>> I fixed your newsgroups line for you. HTH.
>
>Ah, kibology. The science of kebabs?

Nope. Try asking again?

>Is it worth subscribing to?

We think so.

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Xcott Craver

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Adrian Marsh Tupper <adrian...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Ah, kibology. The science of kebabs?
>Is it worth subscribing to?

Subscribing?
You entered the realm of that one guy from Boston.
There is no turning back.

>Adrian
-X

Xcott Craver

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"Dave Fawthrop" <hyp...@hyphenologist.co.uk> wrote:
>
>"Kevin S. Wilson" <res...@micron.net> wrote in message
>|
>| You forgot to mention that your Anti-Troll FAQ is grossly incorrect,
>| beginning with a faulty definition of trolling.
>
>Your opinion differs from my experiance.

Question for Dave: how much experience are we talking about here?
E.g., have you been posting to Usenet for 10 years or so, or
is this "Internet" thing something you discovered only recently?

I must agree with Mr. S. Wilson that you seem to be using the
wrong definition of a "troll."

-X

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