Re: NO Popcock, THE LANDs OF THE SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE ARE COOLING
Bonzo
news:1192025497....@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> Bonzo tells another lie.
> On Oct 9, 10:34 pm, "Bonzo" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote:
> > Excerpt: UN scientist Dr. Madhav L. Khandekar, a retired
> > Environment Canada
> > scientist and an expert IPCC reviewer in 2007, explained on
> > August 6, 2007 that the Southern Hemisphere is cooling.
> > "In the Southern Hemisphere, the land-area mean temperature
> > has slowly but surely declined in the last few years.
> Well then, they may have retired the guy because he's senile.
> First, he's cherry picking the data.
> Second, he's wrong.
>
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/gistemp/do_nmap.py?year_last=2007&month_last=08&sat=4&sst=0&type=trends&mean_gen=0112&year1=1880&year2=2006&base1=1951&base2=1980&radius=1200&pol=reg
> To isolate the Southern Hemisphere, look at the graph
> labeled "Latitude."
> That the Southern Hemisphere would warm slower than
> the Northeren was predicted by Arrhenius in 1896. His
> exact words were, "On account of the nebulosity of the
> Southern hemisphere, the effect will be less there than
> in the Northern hemisphere."
>
You're lying again Popcock!
Quoting an ancient text sounds like desperation on your part
Popcock.
Most probably it was a liucky guess. I wonder how many wrong
predictions your friend Arrhenius made?
Sounds like another Ehrlich crackpot to me.
Would you believe the New Scientist, Popcock????
Antarctic Animals Hit By Cooler Summers
19:00 13 January 2002
From New Scientist Print Edition
James Randerson
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1785
McMurdo Dry Valleys Long-Term Ecological Research
British Antarctic Survey
An analysis of 35 years of climate data shows most of Antarctica
is cooling down, not warming up, claim US researchers. This
conclusion conflicts with "greenhouse" climate models that
predict the largest temperature rises at the poles. Other
researchers also dispute the team零 findings.
"We are not saying that global warming is not going on," says
Peter Doran at the University of Illinois, Chicago, who has led
the new analysis. "But something is going on in the Antarctic
that is not predicted by the climate models."
Doran's team studied air temperature measurements taken across
Antarctica over the past 35 years. They also analysed a highly
detailed set of temperature measurements taken between 1986 and
2000 in the McMurdo Dry Valleys, a small ice-free region at the
edge of the continent, south of New Zealand.
Here, the average air temperature has cooled by 0.7蚓 per decade,
primarily because of colder summer and autumn temperatures, Doran
says.
Data combined from numerous recording stations across the
continent point to a similar trend over the last 35 years, he
says.
Animal life hit
Doran's surveys of the McMurdo Dry Valleys suggest that recent
cooling is having a devastating impact on the plant and animal
life in the region. The largest animals are microscopic plankton
in the frozen lakes and tiny nematode worms in the soil.
No snow falls in the dry valleys, but in summer, when
temperatures just tip above freezing for four to six weeks,
meltwater from glaciers feed the frozen lakes in the valley
floor.
"Summer temperatures are key to the ecosystem," says Doran. But
colder summers mean the lakes are replenished with less
meltwater, and so are starting to dwindle. Their frozen "lids"
are also getting thicker, restricting photosynthesis.
The researchers estimate that the colder weather is causing the
number of soil invertebrates to fall by 10 per cent each year,
and plant productivity to fall by six to nine per cent per year.
Journal reference: Nature (DOI 10.1038/nature710)
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Regards
Bonzo
"When I, with some colleagues at NASA, attempted to determine how
clouds behave under varying temperatures, we discovered what we
called an 'Iris Effect,' wherein upper-level cirrus clouds
contracted with increased temperature, providing a very strong
negative climate feedback sufficient to greatly reduce the
response to increasing CO2. Normally, criticism of papers appears
in the form of letters to the journal to which the original
authors can respond immediately. However, in this case (and
others) a flurry of hastily prepared papers appeared, claiming
errors in our study, with our responses delayed months and
longer. The delay permitted our paper to be commonly referred to
as 'discredited'." Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology
MIT and Member of the National Academy of Sciences
HangEveryRepubliKKKan
"HangEveryRepubliKKKan" <Jus...@ExecuteTheBushTraitor.com> wrote
>> 1998 14.57 *********************o*****
>> 1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
>> 2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
>> 2001 14.48 ************************o
>> 2002 14.56 *************************o**
>> 2003 14.55 **************************o*
>> 2004 14.49 *************************>>o
>> 2005 14.63 *****************************o**
>> 2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
>>
>> Look at all those "o"'s lined up there.
"Bonzo" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote
> The "0"'s are NOT THE DATA!
> They have created a trend which does not exist in the data.
> Voodoo statistics!
Ahahahahahahahahaha... Stupid KKKonservative KKKlown. A trendline skirts
across the top of the data leaving equal portions of the data above and
below. In this instane 10 dots above, and 14 below as a result of the crude
nature of ascii graphics. Nevertheless it represents the best line that can
be fitted to the data based on minimizing the square of the distance between
the line and the real data. It's called a least squares curve fit.
You are completely ignorant when it comes to statistics and mathematics in
general aren't you Bonzo.
Ahahahahahaha.. You don't know what statistics are, where it comes from,
how it is used, or how to use it, and yet in your vast ignorance, you seem
to think that you know more about science than all of the worlds scientists.
"Voodoo statistics" Ahahahahahahahah... You need to go back to public
school and take a refresher course in basic technical literacy.
Stupid... Stupid.. KKKonservative KKKlown....
"Bonzo" <boo...@optusnt.com.au> wrote
> Here is the data which shows NO TREND!
>
> 1998 366.50 2.5721 14.57
> 1999 368.14 2.6148 14.33
> 2000 369.41 2.6399 14.33
> 2001 371.07 2.6672 14.48
> 2002 373.16 2.7032 14.56
> 2003 375.80 2.7487 14.55
> 2004 377.55 NA 14.49
> 2005 379.75 NA 14.63
> 2006 381.90 NA 14.54
No? Lets plot the data and find out shall we? Here it is along with the
best linear fit to the data shown as "o".
1998 14.57 *********************o*****
1999 14.33 *****************>>>>o
2000 14.33 *****************>>>>>o
2001 14.48 ************************o
2002 14.56 *************************o**
2003 14.55 **************************o*
2004 14.49 *************************>>o
2005 14.63 *****************************o**
2006 14.54 ***************************>>>o
Look at all those "o"'s lined up there. The trend is up, Up, UP.
So Bonzo, who is paying you to post lies to this newsgroup?