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amacm...@aol.com
Dec 6, 2015, 7:32:35 AM12/6/15
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He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
has been counting birds for over 50 years
No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
dog.
Wuff Wuff :-))
me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
has been counting birds for over 50 years
No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
dog.
Wuff Wuff :-))
Malcolm Ogilvie
Dec 6, 2015, 8:48:19 AM12/6/15
to
has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight. He has invented a number of
different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday. A charming reporter,
Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
Malcolm
amacm...@aol.com
Dec 7, 2015, 3:36:35 PM12/7/15
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On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
<MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>
>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>dog.
>>
>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>
>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
<MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>
>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>dog.
>>
>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>
>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>He
>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>He has invented a number of
>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>
>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>A charming reporter,
>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>
>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>
>Malcolm
Malcolm Ogilvie
Dec 8, 2015, 3:25:37 AM12/8/15
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On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>
>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>dog.
>>>
>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>
>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>
>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>
No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>
>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>dog.
>>>
>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>
>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>
>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>
>>He
>>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>
>Read the research Malcolm, and don't labour your ignorance.
>
is hardly surprising as they don't fit with any of the carefully researched
archaeological, geological or geomorphological facts.
>>He has invented a number of
>>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
>
>Of course it's not native and only the Irish authorities are honest
>enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>
>>
>>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>
>And you're not?
>
>>A charming reporter,
>>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
>
>Only Malcolm can be so conceited as to mention his age was wrong and
>succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>
here not about a subject related to this newsgroup but with the sole intent of claiming
I'm a liar. Perhaps you would like to apologise for that accusation.
>>
>>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>
>In what?
native species of Britain, when it obviously is. You've spent years trying and failing.
And as you get older, so your claims get more and more risible.
amacm...@aol.com
Dec 9, 2015, 5:30:11 AM12/9/15
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On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
Wuff! Wuff! The wee dog's back again with the same old rubbish:-))
Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
Malcolm Ogilvie
Dec 9, 2015, 8:15:13 AM12/9/15
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On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 10:29:42 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>
>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>
>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>
>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>
>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>
Not challenged, I note.
>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>
>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>dog.
>>>>>
>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>
>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>
>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>
>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>
>>>>He
>>>>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>>>>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>>>>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>>>>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>>>
>>>Read the research Malcolm, and don't labour your ignorance.
>>>
>>I have read the research and understood it. Your ludicrous ideas don't figure in it, which
>>is hardly surprising as they don't fit with any of the carefully researched
>>archaeological, geological or geomorphological facts.
>>
>>>>He has invented a number of
>>>>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>>>>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
>>>
>>>Of course it's not native and only the Irish authorities are honest
>>>enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>>>
>>Its status in Ireland isn't relevant to its status in Britain, so why mention it?
>>
>>>>
>>>>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>>>
>>>And you're not?
>>>
>>No.
>>
>>>>A charming reporter,
>>>>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>>>>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>>>>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>>>>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>>>>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>>>>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
>>>
>>>Only Malcolm can be so conceited as to mention his age was wrong and
>>>succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>>>
>>You raised the subject here, Angus, not me. But then you are obsessed with me, posting
>>here not about a subject related to this newsgroup but with the sole intent of claiming
>>I'm a liar. Perhaps you would like to apologise for that accusation.
>>
For the record, I wanted to raise another point with the journalist and thought I would
also mention that my age was wrong in the article, the latter because it was always
possible that some arsehole would read it and raise the matter with me.
>>>>
>>>>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>>>
>>>In what?
>>
>>You have completely failed in your ludicrous attempts to prove the red squirrel is not a
>>native species of Britain, when it obviously is. You've spent years trying and failing.
>>And as you get older, so your claims get more and more risible.
>
>
>Wuff! Wuff! The wee dog's back again with the same old rubbish:-))
>
>Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
In your totally vain efforts to demonstrate that the undoubtedly native red squirrel is
not a native of Britain, you have conjured up more and more silly notions for none of
which do you have a scrap of evidence, and for many of which you are impugning the
professional expertise and reputations of professional archaeologists, geologists and
geomorphologists. You have yet to produce a single publication to support your risible
claims about mythical floods post the last ice-age which, according to you brought the
squirrel remains from some unknown place outwith Britain and deposited them in caves in
three different places of southern England. Indeed, you demonstrated that you couldn't
even understand the changes in sealevel which took place over the last 20-30,000 years.
And your claims about Doggerland and the land bridge between England and the Continent
which lasted for thousands of years and thereby ensured the arrival of a great proportion
of our land mammals, including the red squirrel, as well as thousands of other species of
fauna and flora are, as usual with you, based on your over-heated imagination and not at
all on the known facts.
amacm...@aol.com
Dec 12, 2015, 6:19:00 PM12/12/15
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On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 13:15:17 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
do it all by your little ol' self.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>In what?
>>>
>>>You have completely failed in your ludicrous attempts to prove the red squirrel is not a
>>>native species of Britain, when it obviously is. You've spent years trying and failing.
>>>And as you get older, so your claims get more and more risible.
>>
>Not challenged, I note.
You're out of date, Malcolm.
Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
>
>>
>>Wuff! Wuff! The wee dog's back again with the same old rubbish:-))
>>
>Merely a repeat of a childish insult - typical of Angus.
>
>>Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
>
>I'm not, because, as on so many subjects, I know and understand the facts and you don't.
You don't know what facts are.
>In your totally vain efforts to demonstrate that the undoubtedly native red squirrel is
>not a native of Britain, you have conjured up more and more silly notions for none of
>which do you have a scrap of evidence, and for many of which you are impugning the
>professional expertise and reputations of professional archaeologists, geologists and
>geomorphologists. You have yet to produce a single publication to support your risible
>claims about mythical floods post the last ice-age which, according to you brought the
>squirrel remains from some unknown place outwith Britain and deposited them in caves in
>three different places of southern England. Indeed, you demonstrated that you couldn't
>even understand the changes in sealevel which took place over the last 20-30,000 years.
>And your claims about Doggerland and the land bridge between England and the Continent
>which lasted for thousands of years and thereby ensured the arrival of a great proportion
>of our land mammals, including the red squirrel, as well as thousands of other species of
>fauna and flora are, as usual with you, based on your over-heated imagination and not at
>all on the known facts.
Lying again, Malcolm. All the evidence is there that shows the red
squirrel in not native but you're obviously not up to looking for it.
Even SNH know they're not native to Scotland. A senior executive
admitted that to me. I posted this some time ago on this ng. Have
you forgotten? Sounds like dementia is settling in. Forgetting your
age is a sure sign :-))
<MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 10:29:42 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>>dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>>
>>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>>
>>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>>
>Not challenged, I note.
Stlii follow me about like a little dog :-))
>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 10:29:42 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>>
>>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>>dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>>
>>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>>
>>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>>
>Not challenged, I note.
>
>>>>>He
>>>>>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>>>>>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>>>>>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>>>>>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>>>>
>>>>Read the research Malcolm, and don't labour your ignorance.
>>>>
>>>I have read the research and understood it. Your ludicrous ideas don't figure in it, which
>>>is hardly surprising as they don't fit with any of the carefully researched
>>>archaeological, geological or geomorphological facts.
>>>
>Not challenged, I note.
You're out of date, Malcolm.
>>>>>He
>>>>>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>>>>>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>>>>>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>>>>>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>>>>
>>>>Read the research Malcolm, and don't labour your ignorance.
>>>>
>>>I have read the research and understood it. Your ludicrous ideas don't figure in it, which
>>>is hardly surprising as they don't fit with any of the carefully researched
>>>archaeological, geological or geomorphological facts.
>>>
>Not challenged, I note.
Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
>
>>>>>He has invented a number of
>>>>>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>>>>>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
>>>>
>>>>Of course it's not native and only the Irish authorities are honest
>>>>enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>>>>
>>>Its status in Ireland isn't relevant to its status in Britain, so why mention it?
>>>
>Not answered, I note.
See above.
>>>>>He has invented a number of
>>>>>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>>>>>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
>>>>
>>>>Of course it's not native and only the Irish authorities are honest
>>>>enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>>>>
>>>Its status in Ireland isn't relevant to its status in Britain, so why mention it?
>>>
>Not answered, I note.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>And you're not?
>>>>
>>>No.
>>>
>>>>>A charming reporter,
>>>>>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>>>>>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>>>>>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>>>>>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>>>>>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>>>>>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
>>>>
>>>>Only Malcolm can be so conceited as to mention his age was wrong and
>>>>succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>>>>
>>>You raised the subject here, Angus, not me. But then you are obsessed with me, posting
>>>here not about a subject related to this newsgroup but with the sole intent of claiming
>>>I'm a liar. Perhaps you would like to apologise for that accusation.
>>>
>No apology, I note. Still obsessed with lying about me.
>
>For the record, I wanted to raise another point with the journalist and thought I would
>also mention that my age was wrong in the article, the latter because it was always
>possible that some arsehole would read it and raise the matter with me.
With your use of language like that I don't need to disparage you. You
>>>>>
>>>>>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>>>>
>>>>And you're not?
>>>>
>>>No.
>>>
>>>>>A charming reporter,
>>>>>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>>>>>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>>>>>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>>>>>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>>>>>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>>>>>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
>>>>
>>>>Only Malcolm can be so conceited as to mention his age was wrong and
>>>>succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>>>>
>>>You raised the subject here, Angus, not me. But then you are obsessed with me, posting
>>>here not about a subject related to this newsgroup but with the sole intent of claiming
>>>I'm a liar. Perhaps you would like to apologise for that accusation.
>>>
>No apology, I note. Still obsessed with lying about me.
>
>For the record, I wanted to raise another point with the journalist and thought I would
>also mention that my age was wrong in the article, the latter because it was always
>possible that some arsehole would read it and raise the matter with me.
do it all by your little ol' self.
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>>>>
>>>>In what?
>>>
>>>You have completely failed in your ludicrous attempts to prove the red squirrel is not a
>>>native species of Britain, when it obviously is. You've spent years trying and failing.
>>>And as you get older, so your claims get more and more risible.
>>
>Not challenged, I note.
Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
>
>>
>>Wuff! Wuff! The wee dog's back again with the same old rubbish:-))
>>
>Merely a repeat of a childish insult - typical of Angus.
>
>>Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
>
>I'm not, because, as on so many subjects, I know and understand the facts and you don't.
>In your totally vain efforts to demonstrate that the undoubtedly native red squirrel is
>not a native of Britain, you have conjured up more and more silly notions for none of
>which do you have a scrap of evidence, and for many of which you are impugning the
>professional expertise and reputations of professional archaeologists, geologists and
>geomorphologists. You have yet to produce a single publication to support your risible
>claims about mythical floods post the last ice-age which, according to you brought the
>squirrel remains from some unknown place outwith Britain and deposited them in caves in
>three different places of southern England. Indeed, you demonstrated that you couldn't
>even understand the changes in sealevel which took place over the last 20-30,000 years.
>And your claims about Doggerland and the land bridge between England and the Continent
>which lasted for thousands of years and thereby ensured the arrival of a great proportion
>of our land mammals, including the red squirrel, as well as thousands of other species of
>fauna and flora are, as usual with you, based on your over-heated imagination and not at
>all on the known facts.
squirrel in not native but you're obviously not up to looking for it.
Even SNH know they're not native to Scotland. A senior executive
admitted that to me. I posted this some time ago on this ng. Have
you forgotten? Sounds like dementia is settling in. Forgetting your
age is a sure sign :-))
Malcolm Ogilvie
Dec 13, 2015, 2:45:14 AM12/13/15
to
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 23:18:29 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 13:15:17 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 10:29:42 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>>>dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>>>
>>>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>>>
>>>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>>>
>>Not challenged, I note.
>
>Stlii follow me about like a little dog :-))
Poor little Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me. It is an
>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 13:15:17 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 09 Dec 2015 10:29:42 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 08:25:41 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 20:36:05 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 13:48:18 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>>><MAOg...@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sun, 06 Dec 2015 12:32:08 +0000, amacm...@aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He lied about the population of Hen Harriers some years ago and calls
>>>>>>>me "old man" because he says he's younger than me. In an article in
>>>>>>>the Mail he is said to be 78 years old - two years older than me - and
>>>>>>>has been counting birds for over 50 years
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No doubt he'll pick up this post as he follows me about like a little
>>>>>>>dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Wuff Wuff :-))
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dear little old Angus can't post here without mentioning and trying to disparage me.
>>>>>
>>>>>What did I say. Follows me about like a little dog.
>>>>>
>>>>No, I've been reading this ng long before you appeared. You're wrong as usual.
>>>>
>>Not challenged, I note.
>
>Stlii follow me about like a little dog :-))
obvious attempt to try and divert attention from his inability to justify any of his
claims or to provide answers to questions.
>>
>>>>>>He
>>>>>>has failed to answer a great many questions I have put to him over the years and
>>>>>>completely failed to provide any evidence whatsoever for his ludicrous claims about how
>>>>>>red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above any possible floods
>>>>>>post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight.
>>>>>
>>>>>Read the research Malcolm, and don't labour your ignorance.
>>>>>
>>>>I have read the research and understood it. Your ludicrous ideas don't figure in it, which
>>>>is hardly surprising as they don't fit with any of the carefully researched
>>>>archaeological, geological or geomorphological facts.
>>>>
>>Not challenged, I note.
>
>You're out of date, Malcolm.
>
>Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
ludicrous claims about how red squirrel remains reached caves in the Wye Valley far above
any possible floods post-ice age, or sites in Devon or the Isle of Wight. If there were,
I would know about it, but there isn't as Angus has invented it.
>>
>>>>>>He has invented a number of
>>>>>>different (and conflicting) scenarios in his obsessive struggle to try and prove that the
>>>>>>red squirrel is not a native of Britain. He has, of course, completely failed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course it's not native and only the Irish authorities are honest
>>>>>enough to admit it when questioned closely.
>>>>>
>>>>Its status in Ireland isn't relevant to its status in Britain, so why mention it?
>>>>
>>Not answered, I note.
>
>See above.
Well, of course he can't. He doesn't have any answers.
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And now he reveals himself as a reader of the Mail on Sunday.
>>>>>
>>>>>And you're not?
>>>>>
>>>>No.
>>>>
>>>>>>A charming reporter,
>>>>>>Lorraine Kelly, came to Islay a couple of weeks ago and interviewed me, among others,
>>>>>>about goose counting here. She managed to get my age wrong by two years (I am, like Angus,
>>>>>>76, but some months younger than he is). When I e-mailed her to congratulate her on her
>>>>>>piece in the newspaper, but commented that she had got my age wrong, she responded with:
>>>>>>"I am so terribly sorry! I can't believe I did that. My only excuse is I was so enthralled
>>>>>>in your memoir that I got my numbers muddled, but I am so sorry for this."
>>>>>
>>>>>Only Malcolm can be so conceited as to mention his age was wrong and
>>>>>succumb to being flattered by this young woman. Grow up, Malcolm.
>>>>>
>>>>You raised the subject here, Angus, not me. But then you are obsessed with me, posting
>>>>here not about a subject related to this newsgroup but with the sole intent of claiming
>>>>I'm a liar. Perhaps you would like to apologise for that accusation.
>>>>
>>No apology, I note. Still obsessed with lying about me.
>>
>>For the record, I wanted to raise another point with the journalist and thought I would
>>also mention that my age was wrong in the article, the latter because it was always
>>possible that some arsehole would read it and raise the matter with me.
>
>With your use of language like that I don't need to disparage you. You
>do it all by your little ol' self.
>
>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Bad luck, Angus. Failed again. But then that's what you do, isn't it?
>>>>>
>>>>>In what?
>>>>
>>>>You have completely failed in your ludicrous attempts to prove the red squirrel is not a
>>>>native species of Britain, when it obviously is. You've spent years trying and failing.
>>>>And as you get older, so your claims get more and more risible.
>>>
>>Not challenged, I note.
>
>You're out of date, Malcolm.
>
>Read the research. I'm not here to educate you.
>
the red squirrel in Britain, only your inventions which are not supported by any facts.
>
>>
>>>
>>>Wuff! Wuff! The wee dog's back again with the same old rubbish:-))
>>>
>>Merely a repeat of a childish insult - typical of Angus.
>>
>>>Don't labour your ignorance, Malcolm.
>>
>>I'm not, because, as on so many subjects, I know and understand the facts and you don't.
>
>You don't know what facts are.
>
support his claims that the red squirrel is not a native species of Britain. The
archaeological remains prove that it is. The Doggerland bridge between the continent and
England provided the means by which it reached here post-ice age, and all the nonsense
about the fur trade merely demonstrated that Angus doesn't know how to undertake proper
research into a subject.
>>In your totally vain efforts to demonstrate that the undoubtedly native red squirrel is
>>not a native of Britain, you have conjured up more and more silly notions for none of
>>which do you have a scrap of evidence, and for many of which you are impugning the
>>professional expertise and reputations of professional archaeologists, geologists and
>>geomorphologists. You have yet to produce a single publication to support your risible
>>claims about mythical floods post the last ice-age which, according to you brought the
>>squirrel remains from some unknown place outwith Britain and deposited them in caves in
>>three different places of southern England. Indeed, you demonstrated that you couldn't
>>even understand the changes in sealevel which took place over the last 20-30,000 years.
>>And your claims about Doggerland and the land bridge between England and the Continent
>>which lasted for thousands of years and thereby ensured the arrival of a great proportion
>>of our land mammals, including the red squirrel, as well as thousands of other species of
>>fauna and flora are, as usual with you, based on your over-heated imagination and not at
>>all on the known facts.
>
>Lying again, Malcolm.
All the evidence is there that shows the red
>squirrel in not native but you're obviously not up to looking for it.
>
self-delusion. In all the long threads about red squirrel you have yet to produce one
single piece of *evidence* to support your claim that the red squirrel is not a native.
All you have produced is invention, lies and speculation, all of which is very easily
countered by reference to the actual facts.
>Even SNH know they're not native to Scotland. A senior executive
>admitted that to me. I posted this some time ago on this ng.
squirrel is native to *Britain*, Angus, and nothing you have produced over the years has
changed that status one iota. You have failed, yet again.
Have
>you forgotten? Sounds like dementia is settling in. Forgetting your
>age is a sure sign :-))
>
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