Something for Angus to read

[Malcolm Ogilvie]

Posted on Facebook by Dan Rather, a leading US journalist.

Angus Macmillan should read this and at least make an attempt to understand it. But this
may well be beyond his comprehension.

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I think we should erect a monument built from materials impervious to the elements and
list the names of all the elected officials and others in positions of power today in the
United States who refuse to stand with the science on climate change.

We can put this monument on the coast - say off Miami - and have its base equal to the
lapping waves of high tide. As sea levels rise, the monument will begin to be submerged,
at increasingly greater depths. It will become a symbol of the cynicism, stupidity, and
folly of our age. And it will be important for future generations to know who was
responsible for this failure of action and imagination as this global crisis crescendoed.
When I see Donald Trump cast doubt on climate change, I am deeply disappointed. When I see
him appoint climate change deniers to key posts in his cabinet, I am deeply worried. When
I see those in the scientific community and elsewhere pushing back, I am determined to
bring these voices of reason to light.

Science is not a conclusion. It's a process. It's also about the real world. Not a
post-truth world. If you're wrong as a scientist, it's hard to keep that hidden for very
long because others will do an experiment and show the limitations of your earlier
conclusions.

All these climate change deniers are denigrating the very nature of scientific discovery.
It's the same enterprise that, in biological research, leads to the cures these climate
deniers plead from their doctors, or the geological research that finds and extracts the
raw materials that power these climate deniers' lives, or the physics that makes these
climate deniers' modern technology work.

To cherry pick the science you like is to show you really don't understand much of
anything. That is your right. But when it affects my life, that of my family, the future
direction of my country, and the health of our planet, than the ignorance is far from
harmless. The world must remember what is happening here and perhaps the judgement of
history might induce some to the action we so desperately need.
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[amacm...@aol.com]

Good to see the railway engineer's doctrine is at last getting the
push and the fake conservationists are getting it as well and
squealing about it. Not before time.

Climate change has taken place for millennia and always will. Perhaps
it's natures way of reducing the human population on a planet that has
a true human population carrying capacity of circa 2bn.

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[Malcolm Ogilvie]

And a happy new year to you, Angus and to all the others who can't or don't want to
understand the facts, which include that man's activities in the last couple of hundred
years have dkrectly contributed to the recent, and continuing, warming, with all the dire
consequences that are happennig and will increase. You can keep burying your head in the
sand, Angus, and disbelieving over 95% of the scientists studing the subject, but then you
apparently believe what's posted on a website which claims that Alzheimer's can be cured
by the "Natural Allopathic Protocol", that "X-Ray Mammography Is Accelerating The Epidemic
of Cancer", and that the annual flu vaccine kills people. They are examples of
pseudoscience, Angus, very similar to what you put forward in attempting, and failing, to
disprove the undoubted native status of the red squirrel.

Malcolm

[amacm...@aol.com]

Happy New Year, Malcolm. You're still flogging a dead horse :-)

Not unusually, you contradict yourself. You agree that "science is
not a conclusion. It's a process" and then in the next breath say it's
"facts". It can't be both. Looks like your 2017 will be nothing new.
On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 07:34:06 +0000, Malcolm Ogilvie

[Malcolm Ogilvie]

I really like your description of yourself as "a dead horse" :-))

And, not unusually, you fail to understand what science is about: dealing in facts and
being a process are entirely compatible. While the phrase "science is
not a conclusion. It's a process" weren't my words but a quote from someone else, they are
obviously true as even a moment's thought by you (though I realise that's difficult for
you) would have understood.

Scientists undertake invesitgations revealing facts. Further investigations (thus a
process) take those facts and can use them to reveal more facts, and so on.

I realise it's unfair to tax your brain with facts, Angus, but you often show that you
either haven't any or don't understand them. Tell me, do you believe that "Alzheimer's can
be cured by the "Natural Allopathic Protocol". If you don't, then why do you apparently
believe the equally risble claims on the same website about global warming?

Malcolm