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>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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A complete waste of time
Not worth the paper its printed on
>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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boring
>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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Mediocre
>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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>>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy hour
>>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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>Mediocre
Who is this decisive @ I like the cut of his/her jib. We need people
like that in here. Witty, concise and on target.
Stand and be recognised @ there's no need to be any mouse in here.
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>How come you can post at 11.54am?
>
Maybe another dissertation! I'm posting at 12.05am because I've just been
doing my waitressing bit - excellent tips tonight!
I know I'm a bit wet behind the ears on the teaching side of things but I
don't like the literacy hour either - a total mind numbing experience. I
did however enjoy teaching the Numeracy hour on my final practice - but it
didn't differ greatly from how I taught maths previously.
Fiona
Staff at school where I chair the GB are very enthusiastic and after a
sceptical initial stance are fully behind it - It has shown
considerable and swift advances in reading ages not seen by even the
most experienced of the school's staff before -perhaps the reason they
are so pro literacy hour is that we as a GB were able to resource the
non-contact time for the co-ordinator to take the pain out of LH
planning for the other staff. We are planning the same for numeracy
strategy too.
Peter Mac
Reminding staffroom colleagues that he is only the bringer of said
tidings and politely requesting not to be shot.
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the LH only compulsory for pupils
in KS1 and don't they only formally enter KS 1 at compulsory school
age ( 5 years old ?)
Peter Mac
Puzzled
Peter Mac
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>>I would gladly appreciate any comments with regards to the literacy
hour
>>(within key stage 1 + 2).
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>
>Mediocre
Just finishing off my last assignment (subject...'how parents can support
literacy!)
Last day of the course tomorrow :o))
and tomorrow night... a large bucket will be present by the side of my
bed!!!
Fiona
> Take no notice of these comments by eweb. He/she is not
> even a currently
> serving teacher.
I'm sure his/her class will be most surprised to hear that.
Still, let us not allow facts to spoil a good story.
> Just an anonymous spammer who wrecked our chatroom by
> installing a robot to control it.
Hmmm. "spammer"? "wrecked"? Powerful use of language. Are
you sure the Literacy Hour hasn't rubbed off on you ?
> I will give you my opinion of the literacy hour for year 5.
> It is...
<snip>
Well all I can suggest is that you are doing it wrong.
My children, both class and Literacy Set, are motivated and
enthusiatic when it comes to the LH. They appreciate the
range of material and the bite-size pieces it is in.
They find they are able to progress at a challenging rate, show
what they can achieve both in independent work and in guided
time and use their acquired skills across the curriculum.
I have seen the majority progress in leaps and bounds during
the year, and after initial personal doubts I am confident and
enthusiatic in my teaching of the LH. Could this be the
difference ?
Normally I would recommend the excellent site
http://welcome.to/literacy for Year 5 resources, but it is
currently being revamped prior to moving to a new provider :-)
However there is a pointer there to the excellent Staffroom
Webring where others have Literacy sites to aid colleagues.
While I am at this 'ere posting lark, I would like to take this
opportunity to say hello to all my "chatroom" <sic> friends.
We now return you to the scheduled lunacy.
Regards,
Chris.
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Anyone know of any pages about canals ? :o)
Not abuse. That's my comment on the Literacy Hour... ;-)
How about - doesn't teach them how to read. Doesn't teach them how to
comprehend even when they can read. But it does give them loads of useless
vocabulary - like onset, rime, alliteration, allegory, glossary...you know,
stuff that will really be a help when they need to fill out that job
application...
*sigh*
Oh, I forgot: it also leaves kids unable to meet with the teacher individually
or in small groups four days a week. Basically, they're doing paperwork for 20
minutes a day, four days a week - not being taught anything.
Please ensure that you get your facts straight before posting messages
like this on USENET.
(1) How do you know that I am not a currently serving teacher?
(2) Your chatroom was not wrecked. I even did the polite thing and
moved mr`chips when asked. I can't see how that makes me an anonymous
spammer. mr`chips was only brought into the #staffroom to use up some
spare bandwidth, not to 'wreck' anything. Besides who owns a channel
on IRC anyway? I did the most polite thing, and yet I find that you
persist in making abusive comments.
If you have any problems with the above, then please message me at
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> How about - doesn't teach them how to read. Doesn't teach them how to
> comprehend even when they can read. But it does give them loads of useless
> vocabulary - like onset, [snip]
Probably out of place here, but what's an "onset" in this context please?
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I may be wrong but I feel fairly sure that our school is not teaching
LH to YR as I have a daughter in that class. Are you suggesting we are
breaking the law ?
> And then there is the fundamental point that the children need to be
totally reafdy for NLP and NLH by the time they walk inti Yr 1 in
September~ they had better be used to
>both "hours"!!
Which is the second hour - are you referring to the National Numeracy
Strategy as I thought this was not time limited to an hour as such ?
Peter Mac
Whose school staff remain puzzled by the animosity directed towards LH
by many teachers
>Their English books are filled with dates and titles
>and nothing else.
Funny you should say that....
I thought you said "carnal"......
> Chris wrote
> >My children, both class and Literacy Set, are motivated and
> >enthusiatic when it comes to the LH. They appreciate the
> >range of material and the bite-size pieces it is in.
> Sounds as if you're putting words into their mouths.
Are you serious ? Are you suggesting I don't know what they like ?
or is this a pun on bite-sized. If so, you missed the smiley.
> Maybe a lot depends on the training provided in each LEA and the
> attitudes of the LH co-ordinators in each school?
Agreed. But the attitude at the front can really matter.
Regards,
Chris.
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This may be a stupid question, but why bother with the date then ?
Regards,
Chris.
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Anyone know of any pages about bobs ?
As in onset and rime.
The onset is the initial sound in a word which is formed by a consonant or a
consonant blend. e.g. CLap has cl as its onset.
The rime part is the AP.
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>The worst part about it is, the way you can only give them 20 minutes to do
>their work, and they take 15 mins to settle down. None of my class' group
>work is EVER finished, unless it is too easy and they mess about for the
>last 8 minutes or so. Their English books are filled with dates and titles
>and nothing else.
>
I agree, and getting the other groups to settle prevents you from giving
your focus group their individual (i.e. one sixth) time with you.
>And it doesn't teach them how to do dusting, either.
>
This is a life skill which I feel we should teach children.
That, and how to decorate, are important things which are totally absent
from the NC in any form :)
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> Robert Chrismas wrote:
> >Probably out of place here, but what's an
> "onset" in this context please?
>
> As in onset and rime.
>
> The onset is the initial sound in a word which
> is formed by a consonant or a consonant blend.
> e.g. CLap has cl as its onset.
> The rime part is the AP.
Ah. For years I've spoken and written English without
needing to know that.
I seem to recall my teachers explaining alliteration
without using the term. In fact I still recall one of
the examples : the "furrow followed free" - whatever
that meant!
I've no experience or training in teaching early
literacy, but I can't see that it's a very important
term for children to know; which is not to say that
the idea isn't important.
I think I'm having an onset of pedantry again.
Opposite of "offset"...
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>>I may be wrong but I feel fairly sure that our school is not teaching
>>LH to YR as I have a daughter in that class. Are you suggesting we are
>>breaking the law ?
>>
>At my training day the other week they said that you don't have to teach
>the Literacy hour at any age. In fact a local school had justified not
>using it to an Ofsted inspector and passed with flying colours. IE if
>your system works then you don't have to change to LH. You just might
>have to justify yourself to an inspector.
Cue, Sandi...
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http://www.sharmans.demon.co.uk
Jx
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>Anyone know of any pages about bobs ?
No, but I'm sure I could work it in to the Tuppence page somewhere :)
2d
http://www.bigwig.net/tuppence/
Wow Greebs, I'd have recognised that Newcomen engine anywhere - seem to
remember drawing one more than once at school but I've never seen a
photo before... thanks :)
2d
You may joke however when one of my friends went on Teaching Practise their
school tore them apart for "spelling rhyme wrong... I've never heard of this
rime rubbish!" :-)
Actually onset and rime is probably one of the MORE useful things to know
that's in the Literacy Hour framework.
Isn't that how Coleridge spelled it?
_I_ fort rime was what you got on frosty mornings.
2d
Gosh how confusing!
Fort u woz bob for a minute there...
2d
And I'm secondary school. Can't wait to see my old Linguistics tutor to
tell her she's next on the list. <Cackle>
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And if he has, should the rest of us be connecting with him?
<ducks>
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>In article <375cbd57...@news.netcomuk.co.uk>, ew...@netcomuk.co.uk
>(eweb) wrote:
>> I did the most polite thing, and yet I find that you
>> persist in making abusive comments.
>
>EXACTLY!!!
>
>Why do you suppose I was demoted to cleaner? So I could act as spokesperson
>for the other cleanres!!!
>
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>> If you have any problems with the above, then please message me at
>> ew...@netcomuk.co.uk, and refrain from making abusive statements on
>> this newsgroup.
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>Abusive?? ABUSIVE???? you are a troll!!!
>
>Ha!!!!
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>Gimme my five quid, quick.
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So did you - I've just checked and there isn't one (at least not until a
later paragraph!)
BAron F
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It's a bit much coming into the staff room over half term for a quiet
top-up of banda to find all this heavy-weight natter about curriculum and
literacy and inspectors. Is this anything to do with the Trunchbull woman?
<snip>
You're not supposed to call it the 'Numeracy Hour' haven't you been on
your Numeracy strategy LEA conference :-)
Peter Mac
An out and out pedant sometimes
And have you seen the definition of metaphor in the NLF glossary? Clear as
mud!
Jx
I think I saw her eating some NC documents before half term.
So is rime the same as rhyme (except that it's spelt
differently)?
If not, what's rime please?
I feel like that chap who went around boasting that
he'd just discovered that he'd been speaking prose
all his life.
I think the main verb is "is going".
>I feel like that chap who went around boasting that
>he'd just discovered that he'd been speaking prose
>all his life.
>
in something by Moliere
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Isn't it 'is going to fall'?
It'll be the future perfect tense or summat shurely?
2d
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>Someone <som...@also.on.prozac> wrote:
>> My present literacy hour problem -
>> being aired on another ng - is.......
>>
>> *Underline the verb in this sentence...
>> (one of several other sentences)
>> 'She is going to fall.'
>>
>> Any help?
>>
>> If fall is not the verb, what is it?
>>
>> I have had a variety of answers - but no agreement. (haha)
>
>I think the main verb is "is going".
>
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Typical of you lot, debating about the grammar, for God's sake
somebody, catch her.
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>garet...@aol.comeOnIn (GarethFord) wrote:
>> Gertie DeSomeone wrote:
>> >I fort rime meant like in clap and crap and scrap -
>> > and had just got spelt wrong.
>>
>> You may joke however when one of my friends went on
>> Teaching Practise their school tore them apart for
>> "spelling rhyme wrong... I've never heard of this
>> rime rubbish!" :-)
>>
>> Actually onset and rime is probably one of the MORE
>> useful things to know that's in the Literacy Hour
>> framework.
>
>So is rime the same as rhyme (except that it's spelt
>differently)?
>
>If not, what's rime please?
>
>I feel like that chap who went around boasting that
>he'd just discovered that he'd been speaking prose
>all his life.
>
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There's the Rime of the Ancient Mariner.... now speaking about the tea
race...
>In article <3756A5A3...@nospam.proz.ac>, Chris <ch...@nospam.proz.ac>
>wrote:
>> Well all I can suggest is that you are doing it wrong.
>
>
>
>Prolly - I am only the cleaner......
>
>
>
>> However there is a pointer there to the excellent Staffroom
>> Webring where others have Literacy sites to aid colleagues.
>
>Cue Roger.....
Enter stage left carrying a model of the Cutty Sark and a sly grin.
Yes, why not try the Staffroom webring
we have all sorts of things on there.
Exit stage right muttering something about tea.
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>Typical of you lot, debating about the grammar, for God's sake
>somebody, catch her.
ROFL!
2d
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>Canal freaks never get cut up about things unless someone barges in.
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>>
What a nasty bastard. Ignore............
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I personally think Haiku are great. :-) It's an excellent way of practising
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form where they can assess whether they have met the correct criteria (i.e.
counting the syllables) easily and independently. Of course, there's more to a
good haiku than the amount of syllables (there's the subject matter etc.) but I
think we'll just work on that for now.
A haiku with two extra 7 syllable lines added is a tanka. You add two lines to
an existing haiku as a response... an idea for an email project, perhaps?
(we've already done one on limericks... see
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>Snip
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>>Well Funkboy has just voted me the fattest and ugliest person on
>>uk.local.birmingham - and I've never met him - AFAIK
>>>
>What a nasty bastard. Ignore............
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Ignore it Corinne.
Geeesh! I wish these people would vent their spleen on something else.
It seems to me that they give 'em high tech gear to communicate and
all they want to do is tell the world they can't. I suppose its the
same as giving a cave-man a cell 'phone. First he'd try to eat it and
when he couldn't he'd use it to hit someone on the head.
Ignore 'em Corinnne you do more for the world of communication in two
minutes than they'll ever do in two incarnations. Just carry on
talking to everyone else and when he finds he can't 'press any
buttons' he'll find someone else to annoy. Also, when they see how
he's treated others they'll think twice before they chat.
Hear, hear.
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I first came across them in my second year at college - of course that
could have been around the same time :(
Yup, I like them and presumably the children are encouraged by their set
length, rather like limericks which have the added advantage of humour.
the rambling rose scrambles up the railings
is it trying to escape?
2d