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Matthew Connolly

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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Hello,
Please can anyone point me in the right direction or send me info. on the
content of SAT's K1/K2 and how and when they are used?

regards

Carol Anne.

odo

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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Matthew Connolly wrote in message <01be46df$96912ae0$905908c3@matthewc>...


You can buy old SAT's papers and revision material at W H Smiths! SAT's are
done in Year 2 and Year 6, with non-statutory version available for
intervening years. Together with PIPs the kids spend all their time being
tested these days, it seems.

Leon Cych

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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In article <917136667.13073.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, odo
<o...@bajor.com> writes
The tests really should be in the context of what is being taught/
learnt! <response to Troll>. I'll be posting some "homework" to do with
early KS2 SATS Maths "variations" as soon as I've done a fair batch.
I do doppleganger questions but the parents have to work through certain
concepts with their children.

Really the format of SATS should be a means through which we can teach
the kids not just a end - process. What I feared is happening nationwide
and that is teaching towards a SAT rather than "teaching". Everyone now
KNOWS that the last two years SATS are the ones that count, they've
bedded down and it's going to be a bit like studying form. A lot of
people make SATS paper clones with DTP packages to get the kids used to
the format of the tests.

There are packages called Exampro Science/ English/ Maths by Helix
which takes the last 4 years SATS questions and enables you to print out
specific papers and gives the set time for each question etc. You can
also edit the questions but not the images.

Tel: 01384 898969

Fax: 01384 426000

email EXA...@AOL.COM

QCA didn't even know they'd worked with Helix when I questioned them but
they did.

And I'll point out what I always point out - the kids who have an
understanding of a basic concept and an insight into what they're doing
always do best and in life a little familiarity will get you so far but
no further. A little bit of understanding with familiarity and the
ability to apply that will get you a hell of a long way ;-)
--
Leon Cych

http://www.rmplc.co.uk/eduweb/sites/allsouls/index.html
(Resources and fun things for busy Key Stage 2 teachers)

greebo

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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odo writes

>
>Matthew Connolly wrote in message <01be46df$96912ae0$905908c3@matthewc>...
>>Hello,
>>Please can anyone point me in the right direction or send me info. on the
>>content of SAT's K1/K2 and how and when they are used?
>>
>>regards
>>
>>Carol Anne.
>
>
>You can buy old SAT's papers and revision material at W H Smiths! SAT's are
>done in Year 2 and Year 6, with non-statutory version available for
>intervening years. Together with PIPs the kids spend all their time being
>tested these days, it seems.
>
What are PIPS?

You don't make a pig get fatter just by constantly weighing it.
All this testing and preparing for testing is seriously eating into the
time that should be spent teaching the children.
--
greebo place name of the day: Pratt's Bottom
near Farnborough.
to reply: remove big head

Lara

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 11:42:59 +0000, if I'm not mistaken, greebo
<gre...@biggobsmackhead.demon.co.uk> appears to have written:

>
>You don't make a pig get fatter just by constantly weighing it.
>All this testing and preparing for testing is seriously eating into the
>time that should be spent teaching the children.
>--

<rapturous round of applause>

lara
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Roger Watts

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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In article <l$8cDIADdwq2MwG$@gobsmack.freeserve.co.uk>, greebo
<gre...@biggobsmackhead.demon.co.uk> writes

>You don't make a pig get fatter just by constantly weighing it.

You don't make a heart attack patient better by measuring their heart
rhythms - so let's switch the monitor off!
--
Roger Watts

odo

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Leon Cych wrote in message ...><o...@bajor.com> writes

>>
>>Matthew Connolly wrote in message <01be46df$96912ae0$905908c3@matthewc>...
>>>Hello,
>>>Please can anyone point me in the right direction or send me info. on the
>>>content of SAT's K1/K2 and how and when they are used?
>>>
>>>regards
>>>
>>>Carol Anne.
>>
>>
>>You can buy old SAT's papers and revision material at W H Smiths! SAT's
are
>>done in Year 2 and Year 6, with non-statutory version available for
>>intervening years. Together with PIPs the kids spend all their time being
>>tested these days, it seems.
>>
>>
>The tests really should be in the context of what is being taught/
>learnt! <response to Troll>. I'll be posting some "homework" to do with
>early KS2 SATS Maths "variations" as soon as I've done a fair batch.
>I do doppleganger questions but the parents have to work through certain
>concepts with their children.
>
>Really the format of SATS should be a means through which we can teach
>the kids not just a end - process. What I feared is happening nationwide
>and that is teaching towards a SAT rather than "teaching".

Be honest now, was anything _else_ likely to happen?

odo

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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greebo wrote in message ...
>odo writes

>>
>>Matthew Connolly wrote in message <01be46df$96912ae0$905908c3@matthewc>...
>>>Hello,
>>>Please can anyone point me in the right direction or send me info. on the
>>>content of SAT's K1/K2 and how and when they are used?
>>>
>>>regards
>>>
>>>Carol Anne.
>>
>>
>>You can buy old SAT's papers and revision material at W H Smiths! SAT's
are
>>done in Year 2 and Year 6, with non-statutory version available for
>>intervening years. Together with PIPs the kids spend all their time being
>>tested these days, it seems.
>>
>What are PIPS?

>
>You don't make a pig get fatter just by constantly weighing it.
>All this testing and preparing for testing is seriously eating into the
>time that should be spent teaching the children.


PIPs are a sort of baseline performance test against which school targets
for SATs achievement will be set (as I understand it). It takes hours of the
teacher's time to do. The only benefit seems to be that the teacher gets an
idea of how poor the kids will do in the up-coming SATs!

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