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FullyDetached
Jun 15, 2015, 1:22:25 PM6/15/15
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If understand correctly, property boundaries usually run through the
middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
link-detached houses?
In this sketch for example, which of the 2 property boundaries is most
likely?
http://tinypic.com/r/2bblgm/8
If it's relevant, the garage roofs are supported by beams set into the
walls of the 2 adjoining houses.
middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
link-detached houses?
In this sketch for example, which of the 2 property boundaries is most
likely?
http://tinypic.com/r/2bblgm/8
If it's relevant, the garage roofs are supported by beams set into the
walls of the 2 adjoining houses.
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Bob Eager
Jun 15, 2015, 5:29:29 PM6/15/15
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On Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:31:30 +0000, Huge wrote:
> On 2015-06-15, FullyDetached <FullyD...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> If understand correctly, property boundaries usually run through the
>> middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
>> link-detached houses?
>
> aka "terraced" houses.
>
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't detached.
I was thinking about a flying freehold type of property, with two houses
linked by a bedroom across a shared alleyway. I saw one on Downs Road
recently.
> On 2015-06-15, FullyDetached <FullyD...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> If understand correctly, property boundaries usually run through the
>> middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
>> link-detached houses?
>
>
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't detached.
I was thinking about a flying freehold type of property, with two houses
linked by a bedroom across a shared alleyway. I saw one on Downs Road
recently.
spuorg...@gowanhill.com
Jun 15, 2015, 5:39:51 PM6/15/15
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On Monday, 15 June 2015 18:22:25 UTC+1, FullyDetached wrote:
> If it's relevant, the garage roofs are supported by beams set into the
> walls of the 2 adjoining houses.
Property line at edge of wall with a right of support to the beam for the attached garage belonging to the neighbour.
> If it's relevant, the garage roofs are supported by beams set into the
> walls of the 2 adjoining houses.
... would be the simple way of doing it, but you're probably in England where they haven't quite sorted out property law yet.
Owain
Tricky Dicky
Jun 15, 2015, 7:12:09 PM6/15/15
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Ours is similar the bungalow is linked to the next by a car port. The supporting beams are attached to our fascia boards on that side and the top felt layer extends under the the second row of roof tiles. There is a covenant in the deeds that states we are only part liable for the downspout and gutter as it drains that side of our roof into a gully on the neighbours side as well as the flat roof of the car port. The covenant also makes provision for access for maintenance of the wall and fascia as well as access to the sewers which pass from our property and link to the neighbours sewer at a man hole on his drive. As far as any other responsibility for the car port roof that is entirely the neighbours responsibility only that we have to allow him to join onto our roof as is the case now.
The car port roof already has a few leaks and the neighbour has indicated he would remove it rather than replace or repair if it got worse. If he did remove the car port technically it would leave part of our roof, fascia and any guttering that would have to be installed there over the neighbours property, wether that would mean any amendment to the covenant I am not sure but I am sure there are plenty of lawyers willing to relieve me of some of our money to sort it out.
Richard
The car port roof already has a few leaks and the neighbour has indicated he would remove it rather than replace or repair if it got worse. If he did remove the car port technically it would leave part of our roof, fascia and any guttering that would have to be installed there over the neighbours property, wether that would mean any amendment to the covenant I am not sure but I am sure there are plenty of lawyers willing to relieve me of some of our money to sort it out.
Richard
harry
Jun 16, 2015, 1:22:46 AM6/16/15
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On Monday, June 15, 2015 at 9:31:32 PM UTC+1, Huge wrote:
> On 2015-06-15, FullyDetached <FullyD...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 2015-06-15, FullyDetached <FullyD...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > If understand correctly, property boundaries usually run through the
> > middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
> > link-detached houses?
>
> > middle of walls with terraced and semi-detached houses, but what about
> > link-detached houses?
>
> aka "terraced" houses.
>
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
> detached.
It's a term estate agents have thought up for the particular design.
>
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
> detached.
PeterC
Jun 16, 2015, 2:31:54 AM6/16/15
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these would be a terrace.
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News
Jun 16, 2015, 2:53:13 AM6/16/15
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In message <cu8r12...@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
began life as detached, with fairly substantial grounds, and entrances
from two roads, one at front, the other behind. Years ago, part of the
rear of the house was converted to a self contained granny annexe which
was subsequently extended. Rear entrance from road behind now serves
only the annexe. The owner of the large house moved from that house to
the annexe, then sold the house via a large, very well known national
estate agent who marketed the house as detached. Detached? How can it
possibly be described as detached?
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Graeme
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>
>"Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
>detached.
>
There is a large house near here, with roads on three sides. The house
>"Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
>detached.
>
began life as detached, with fairly substantial grounds, and entrances
from two roads, one at front, the other behind. Years ago, part of the
rear of the house was converted to a self contained granny annexe which
was subsequently extended. Rear entrance from road behind now serves
only the annexe. The owner of the large house moved from that house to
the annexe, then sold the house via a large, very well known national
estate agent who marketed the house as detached. Detached? How can it
possibly be described as detached?
--
Graeme
Chris J Dixon
Jun 16, 2015, 3:47:45 AM6/16/15
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Tricky Dicky wrote:
>Ours is similar the bungalow is linked to the next by a car port. The supporting beams are attached to our fascia boards on that side and the top felt layer extends under the the second row of roof tiles. There is a covenant in the deeds that states we are only part liable for the downspout and gutter as it drains that side of our roof into a gully on the neighbours side as well as the flat roof of the car port. The covenant also makes provision for access for maintenance of the wall and fascia as well as access to the sewers which pass from our property and link to the neighbours sewer at a man hole on his drive. As far as any other responsibility for the car port roof that is entirely the neighbours responsibility only that we have to allow him to join onto our roof as is the case now.
>
>The car port roof already has a few leaks and the neighbour has indicated he would remove it rather than replace or repair if it got worse. If he did remove the car port technically it would leave part of our roof, fascia and any guttering that would have to be installed there over the neighbours property, wether that would mean any amendment to the covenant I am not sure but I am sure there are plenty of lawyers willing to relieve me of some of our money to sort it out.
My house is a semi, but is about four bricks higher than the
>Ours is similar the bungalow is linked to the next by a car port. The supporting beams are attached to our fascia boards on that side and the top felt layer extends under the the second row of roof tiles. There is a covenant in the deeds that states we are only part liable for the downspout and gutter as it drains that side of our roof into a gully on the neighbours side as well as the flat roof of the car port. The covenant also makes provision for access for maintenance of the wall and fascia as well as access to the sewers which pass from our property and link to the neighbours sewer at a man hole on his drive. As far as any other responsibility for the car port roof that is entirely the neighbours responsibility only that we have to allow him to join onto our roof as is the case now.
>
>The car port roof already has a few leaks and the neighbour has indicated he would remove it rather than replace or repair if it got worse. If he did remove the car port technically it would leave part of our roof, fascia and any guttering that would have to be installed there over the neighbours property, wether that would mean any amendment to the covenant I am not sure but I am sure there are plenty of lawyers willing to relieve me of some of our money to sort it out.
other half. This means that my roof extends beyond the centreline
of the party wall, or does it? I don't recall any special mention
in the deeds.
Chris
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ch...@cdixon.me.uk
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Tony Bryer
Jun 16, 2015, 9:10:09 AM6/16/15
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On 15 Jun 2015 20:31:30 GMT Huge wrote :
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
> detached.
Loads of Wates link detached chalets in my old BCO patch of New
> "Link detached", my arse. If you can't walk round it, it isn't
> detached.
Malden - you can walk round them and they're joined to next door by
an arch. Legend had it that when built in the 1930s the rates were
less because they were classed as semi-detached, being joined to
another property.
http://www.primelocation.com/for-sale/details/37101941
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Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com
Vir Campestris
Jun 16, 2015, 4:37:54 PM6/16/15
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passageway probably belongs to the same house as the bedroom, and the
other will have a right of way.
There's a house down the road from us with a flying freehold. One room's
ceiling is the other house's bedroom floor.
AIUI link detached has a garage joining them - so no adjacent habitable
rooms.
Andy
Tim Watts
Jun 16, 2015, 5:00:50 PM6/16/15
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the houses. That's not too bad as they are practically detaches from a
noise POV assuming noone uses their garage as a drum shed!
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Andy Burns
Jun 16, 2015, 5:23:45 PM6/16/15
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Huge wrote:
> "Link detached" is an estate agent's term for a posh terraced house.
Round here they use "palisaded villa" for that, "link detached" as other
have mentioned generally seems to be applied to houses that are attached
only via garages or car-ports, and it does seem worth having a term for
that.
> "Link detached" is an estate agent's term for a posh terraced house.
Round here they use "palisaded villa" for that, "link detached" as other
have mentioned generally seems to be applied to houses that are attached
only via garages or car-ports, and it does seem worth having a term for
that.
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Vir Campestris
Jun 17, 2015, 4:38:07 PM6/17/15
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On 16/06/2015 22:26, Huge wrote:
> OTOH, IMO, if you can see the neighbours, they're too close.
The neighbours at the side are too close then.
The ones at the bottom - well, I've seen a helicopter go between us :)
Andy
> OTOH, IMO, if you can see the neighbours, they're too close.
The neighbours at the side are too close then.
The ones at the bottom - well, I've seen a helicopter go between us :)
Andy
j...@mdfs.net
Jun 17, 2015, 6:15:30 PM6/17/15
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spuorg wrote:
> ... would be the simple way of doing it, but you're probably in England where
> they haven't quite sorted out property law yet.
Give it time, they've only been muddling through for 950 years.
> ... would be the simple way of doing it, but you're probably in England where
> they haven't quite sorted out property law yet.
jgh
bert
Jun 18, 2015, 9:50:54 AM6/18/15
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In article <14hvrma8jjto$.g541rb3f...@40tude.net>, PeterC
<giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> writes
Town house - please or better still mews.
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bert
<giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> writes
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bert
bert
Jun 18, 2015, 9:50:54 AM6/18/15
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In article <cubin7...@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>We've got one; "terraced".
>
>(BTW, I'm just fighting a likely losing battle against "estate agent speak".
>Probably prompted by the fact I'm presently engaged in the depressing task
>of looking for a house to retire to.)
>
>
What does "deceptively large" mean? Bigger than it looks or not as big
as it looks?
--
bert
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>
>(BTW, I'm just fighting a likely losing battle against "estate agent speak".
>Probably prompted by the fact I'm presently engaged in the depressing task
>of looking for a house to retire to.)
>
>
What does "deceptively large" mean? Bigger than it looks or not as big
as it looks?
--
bert
Tim Watts
Jun 18, 2015, 11:44:42 AM6/18/15
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On 18/06/15 14:46, bert wrote:
> What does "deceptively large" mean? Bigger than it looks or not as big
> as it looks?
Dunno, but an apt phrase for any house these days should be:
> What does "deceptively large" mean? Bigger than it looks or not as big
> as it looks?
"Reassuringly expensive"!!!
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bert
Jun 19, 2015, 10:34:57 AM6/19/15
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In article <cugqbh...@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>Tiny.
>
>
LOL
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bert
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>
>
LOL
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bert
DJC
Jun 19, 2015, 3:14:02 PM6/19/15
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On 18/06/15 14:46, bert wrote:
> What does "deceptively large" mean? Bigger than it looks or not as big
> as it looks?
'deceptively spacious' could mean either but if the photos/plans show
> as it looks?
something that looks large I can't imagine an agent warning you that it
is really quite small. So it means 'we are trying to counter the obvious
first impression that it's a miserable little hutch'.
I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
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Tim Watts
Jun 19, 2015, 5:39:49 PM6/19/15
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On 19/06/15 22:35, Huge wrote:
>
>
Try a sensible country?
> On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>>
>
> Jesus, I don't want to hear that, we've only been looking for a few weeks.
>
>>
>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>>
>
>
>
Try a sensible country?
DJC
Jun 19, 2015, 6:43:17 PM6/19/15
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On 19/06/15 22:35, Huge wrote:
> On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
> On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>>
>
>>
>
> Jesus, I don't want to hear that, we've only been looking for a few weeks.
To be fair:
1. Aug 2013. After a survey and a structural engineer's report, decided
cost of renovation of nice wreck in nice location would not only exceed
likely value restored but bust my budget.
2. June 2014. Sale of my property fell through so not in position to
make cash offer for perfect house in fair location.
3. January 2015. Buyer of my flat dragging feet so unable to make
proceedable offer on near perfect house in desirable location.
4. April 2015. Stupid (or bad faith?) buyer has spun things out so long
his mortgage offer has expired. So unable to make fully competitive
offer on near perfect wreck in very desirable location.
And this I might add selling a flat in London that has buyers queuing up
to make offers. Unfortunately they seem so anxious to make an offer they
only make up their mind later.
DJC
Jun 19, 2015, 6:43:17 PM6/19/15
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rent year round for less than a quarter of the value of my (smaller)
London flat. It is tempting but…
News
Jun 20, 2015, 2:42:17 AM6/20/15
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In message <cujg8k...@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
anything specific in mind. One problem is what and where? In the past,
moving has always been related to a specific need such as location, for
work. Having now retired, the world is theoretically our oyster, which
makes the whole business far more complicated, even though it shouldn't.
We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move. Then
again, we like where we are, but the house is too big, or will be, as
the years pass. Don't know about you, but right through my 40s and into
my 50s, time and life seemed almost infinite. Now, in my 60s, I have
finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
slowing down as the years pass. I am now at the age my Dad died, yet my
Mum is 91 and still going, albeit slowly, living in a flat. Popping my
clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
to do much.
The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
make a decision.
--
Graeme
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>Jesus, I don't want to hear that, we've only been looking for a few weeks.
We've been looking for two years, too, but just generally, not with
anything specific in mind. One problem is what and where? In the past,
moving has always been related to a specific need such as location, for
work. Having now retired, the world is theoretically our oyster, which
makes the whole business far more complicated, even though it shouldn't.
We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move. Then
again, we like where we are, but the house is too big, or will be, as
the years pass. Don't know about you, but right through my 40s and into
my 50s, time and life seemed almost infinite. Now, in my 60s, I have
finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
slowing down as the years pass. I am now at the age my Dad died, yet my
Mum is 91 and still going, albeit slowly, living in a flat. Popping my
clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
to do much.
The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
make a decision.
--
Graeme
Chris J Dixon
Jun 20, 2015, 3:52:29 AM6/20/15
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News wrote:
>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>Popping my
>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>to do much.
In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>to do much.
anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
Tim Lamb
Jun 20, 2015, 4:00:43 AM6/20/15
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In message <mm25ri$c4u$1...@dont-email.me>, DJC <d...@news.invalid> writes
--
Tim Lamb
>On 19/06/15 22:35, Huge wrote:
>> On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>>>
>>
>> Jesus, I don't want to hear that, we've only been looking for a few weeks.
>
>> On 2015-06-18, DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've now spent two years looking for a property to retire to, I despair.
>>>
>>
>> Jesus, I don't want to hear that, we've only been looking for a few weeks.
>
>4. April 2015. Stupid (or bad faith?) buyer has spun things out so long
>his mortgage offer has expired. So unable to make fully competitive
>offer on near perfect wreck in very desirable location.
>
>And this I might add selling a flat in London that has buyers queuing
>up to make offers. Unfortunately they seem so anxious to make an offer
>they only make up their mind later.
Where and how much? Mail addy works. My daughter wants a flat in London.
>his mortgage offer has expired. So unable to make fully competitive
>offer on near perfect wreck in very desirable location.
>
>And this I might add selling a flat in London that has buyers queuing
>up to make offers. Unfortunately they seem so anxious to make an offer
>they only make up their mind later.
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Rod Speed
Jun 20, 2015, 4:02:24 AM6/20/15
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"Chris J Dixon" <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote in message
news:9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com...
> News wrote:
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
Really depends on how far you want to go.
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
Some choose to move into a retirement village. The one my dad picked
himself was so well organised that quite a few chose to move in there
while they were still working. It had a full licensed restaurant that would
deliver meals to the units using golf buggys and had a doctor who visited
the units as required with nurses that did other stuff like change dressings
etc as required in your own unit and included a full nursing home for when
you needed that.
Not something that appeals to me tho.
One obvious approach is to choose a last house that is only a single
level which can be used with a wheelchair etc if that becomes necessary.
Tim Lamb
Jun 20, 2015, 4:10:06 AM6/20/15
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In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
*live in* carer. The accommodation needs ground floor bedrooms/bathrooms
for when stairs become tricky.
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Tim Lamb
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>News wrote:
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
>In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
>In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
*live in* carer. The accommodation needs ground floor bedrooms/bathrooms
for when stairs become tricky.
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Tim Lamb
News
Jun 20, 2015, 4:24:27 AM6/20/15
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>In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
Chris, I don't know. When I say last house, I suppose I mean last house
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
before care home or similar, because I'm 62 and not ready to live all on
one level, no garden, stair lift etc. I'm just trying to balance how we
are now with how we may be in ten or twenty years. Having spent my last
12 working years behind a PO counter, and watched my Mum, I am well
aware that although life can go on perfectly happily, there are limits.
At the same time, I have to believe that I'll live another 30 years,
otherwise everything is pointless.
We will probably stay where we are for a few more years, then think
about moving to a smaller house or even the dreaded bungalow, smaller,
easier to maintain garden, proximity to shops etc. Perhaps a much newer
property, with minimal maintenance requirements.
We currently have one advantage in that, although this house is large,
and expensive to run, our former PO is part of the building. We have
retired, the PO business has relocated but the unit has been let. The
income from that more than offsets the savings to be achieved by moving
to a smaller house.
--
Graeme
alan_m
Jun 20, 2015, 4:57:05 AM6/20/15
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On 16/06/2015 22:28, Huge wrote:
>
> (BTW, I'm just fighting a likely losing battle against "estate agent speak".
> Probably prompted by the fact I'm presently engaged in the depressing task
> of looking for a house to retire to.)
I live in a part of Southend on Sea with streets of terrace houses
>
> (BTW, I'm just fighting a likely losing battle against "estate agent speak".
> Probably prompted by the fact I'm presently engaged in the depressing task
> of looking for a house to retire to.)
built 1900 to 1930. The area has being going slightly downhill for the
past 20 years with more properties being buy to let and with short term
tenants who couldn't care a s**t, albeit with most houses in the area in
a good state of repair (externally).
For the past few years all the local estate agents are marketing
properties in the area as being in "Southchurch Village". On the 1843?
OS map a village doesn't appear in this location and there sure ain't
one now. It's urban sprawl that followed the railways line.
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Mike Barnes
Jun 20, 2015, 5:49:48 AM6/20/15
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Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
> *live in* carer.
For most men, that's called a "wife".
>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
> *live in* carer.
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Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England
dennis@home
Jun 20, 2015, 5:52:43 AM6/20/15
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On 19/06/2015 23:37, DJC wrote:
> And this I might add selling a flat in London that has buyers queuing up
> to make offers. Unfortunately they seem so anxious to make an offer they
> only make up their mind later.
>
>
>
Rent it out and buy somewhere else. You can sell it in a few years time
> And this I might add selling a flat in London that has buyers queuing up
> to make offers. Unfortunately they seem so anxious to make an offer they
> only make up their mind later.
>
>
>
when its doubled in value.
dennis@home
Jun 20, 2015, 5:54:44 AM6/20/15
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The Natural Philosopher
Jun 20, 2015, 6:45:25 AM6/20/15
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Wives will in general realise that a dead husband is infinitely
preferable to a live on that needs caring.
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someone else's pocket.
John Chance
Jun 20, 2015, 6:49:41 AM6/20/15
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"The Natural Philosopher" <t...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:mm3g82$qed$2...@news.albasani.net...
> On 20/06/15 09:31, Mike Barnes wrote:
>> Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
>>> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>>>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>>>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>>>
>>> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
>>> *live in* carer.
>>
>> For most men, that's called a "wife".
>>
> Er no.
Far more have a wife that survives them than
>> Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
>>> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>>>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>>>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>>>
>>> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
>>> *live in* carer.
>>
>> For most men, that's called a "wife".
>>
> Er no.
who have a live in carer who is not their wife.
> Wives will in general realise that a dead husband is infinitely preferable
> to a live on that needs caring.
Tim Lamb
Jun 20, 2015, 7:15:27 AM6/20/15
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In message <cukr9p...@mid.individual.net>, Mike Barnes
<mikeba...@gmail.com> writes
Yes. She does an excellent job. However her family have a history of
Alzheimer's. Most of my lot seem to die from cancer so I am trying to
plan for a worst case scenario.
>
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Tim Lamb
<mikeba...@gmail.com> writes
Alzheimer's. Most of my lot seem to die from cancer so I am trying to
plan for a worst case scenario.
>
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Tim Lamb
Tim Lamb
Jun 20, 2015, 7:15:27 AM6/20/15
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In message <55853862$0$52717$b1db1813$5ba2...@news.astraweb.com>,
"dennis@home" <den...@nowhere.invalid> writes
No. I'm happy with my first choice. Just *worst case* planning.
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Tim Lamb
"dennis@home" <den...@nowhere.invalid> writes
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Tim Lamb
S Viemeister
Jun 20, 2015, 7:20:14 AM6/20/15
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On 6/20/2015 9:08 AM, Tim Lamb wrote:
> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
> *live in* carer. The accommodation needs ground floor bedrooms/bathrooms
> for when stairs become tricky.
>
We've been looking into costs for converting our attached 2-car garage
into living quarters, with a handicap-friendly shower room. To be used
as a workshop/hobby room initially (and the extra shower room will be
handy), but potentially an easy access master suite, with a live-in
carer installed in our bedroom in the main house.
> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
> *live in* carer. The accommodation needs ground floor bedrooms/bathrooms
> for when stairs become tricky.
>
into living quarters, with a handicap-friendly shower room. To be used
as a workshop/hobby room initially (and the extra shower room will be
handy), but potentially an easy access master suite, with a live-in
carer installed in our bedroom in the main house.
Tony Bryer
Jun 20, 2015, 7:58:30 AM6/20/15
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On Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:52:28 +0100 Chris J Dixon wrote :
> >Popping my
> >clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not
> >being able to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
I now live in a high rise flat in Melbourne Docklands. Back in 2009
> >Popping my
> >clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not
> >being able to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
a bike accident put me on crutches for six weeks, and that made me
realise that this will be an OK place to live when/if I get to be
old and decrepit - no steps, basic shops at ground floor level, PT
and taxi rank on my doorstep.
--
Tony Bryer, Greentram: 'Software to build on',
Melbourne, Australia www.greentram.com
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tony sayer
Jun 20, 2015, 8:57:43 AM6/20/15
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>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move. Then
>again, we like where we are, but the house is too big, or will be, as
>the years pass. Don't know about you, but right through my 40s and into
>my 50s, time and life seemed almost infinite. Now, in my 60s, I have
>finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
>slowing down as the years pass.
Yes that pisses me off too!. Still I like the job a lot, its my own
>again, we like where we are, but the house is too big, or will be, as
>the years pass. Don't know about you, but right through my 40s and into
>my 50s, time and life seemed almost infinite. Now, in my 60s, I have
>finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
>slowing down as the years pass.
outfit anyway, and have decided that retirement at 70 isn't that bad a
thing or perhaps a partial retirement.
My old dad popped his clogs when he was 83 so thats another 20 years all
being well and when I look back to 20 years ago that did seem a long
time away.
OK its an illusion which suits me fine, others I know find comfort in
their religion the one that'll save 'em;!.
What do you do when your retired?, can't play golf all the time or
holiday you'd get fed up with it wouldn't you?..
> I am now at the age my Dad died, yet my
>Mum is 91 and still going, albeit slowly, living in a flat. Popping my
>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>to do much.
>
>The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>make a decision.
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Tony Sayer
tony sayer
Jun 20, 2015, 8:57:44 AM6/20/15
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In article <mC9mQTRF...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
<t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
Like the idea of that, some nubile Asian girl takes me fancy;)..
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Tony Sayer
<t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
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Tony Sayer
tony sayer
Jun 20, 2015, 8:57:44 AM6/20/15
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In article <mm3g82$qed$2...@news.albasani.net>, The Natural Philosopher
<t...@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
for 8 years after she had a stroke lovingly cared for her over all that
time. It was like having a new born around, bottle feeding her and
changing her nappies;!..
Poor old boy, one of the nicest kindest people around he was my only
regret was not being able to speak his native French in order to have
deeper conversations with him.
Rest in a well deserved peace mate:-)
--
Tony Sayer
<t...@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>On 20/06/15 09:31, Mike Barnes wrote:
>> Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
>>> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>>>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>>>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>>>
>>> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
>>> *live in* carer.
>>
>> For most men, that's called a "wife".
>>
>Er no.
>
>Wives will in general realise that a dead husband is infinitely
>preferable to a live on that needs caring.
>
>
Works the other way round. Wife's Granddad took care of his elderly wife
>> Tim Lamb wrote:
>>> In message <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
>>> <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>>>> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>>>> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>>>
>>> My ambition is to liberate enough capital to invest towards a future
>>> *live in* carer.
>>
>> For most men, that's called a "wife".
>>
>Er no.
>
>Wives will in general realise that a dead husband is infinitely
>preferable to a live on that needs caring.
>
>
for 8 years after she had a stroke lovingly cared for her over all that
time. It was like having a new born around, bottle feeding her and
changing her nappies;!..
Poor old boy, one of the nicest kindest people around he was my only
regret was not being able to speak his native French in order to have
deeper conversations with him.
Rest in a well deserved peace mate:-)
--
Tony Sayer
News
Jun 20, 2015, 11:24:45 AM6/20/15
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In message <cul3mt...@mid.individual.net>, Huge
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
Extremely. We moved to Aberdeenshire 13 years ago, and enjoy life here.
The Moray coast beckons, but my Mum is 500 miles south, and would love
us, and her only grandson, to move in that direction but, given that she
is 91, she may live another few years or may expire a week after we
move. I keep thinking if we put off a decision long enough, poor old
Mum will be out of the equation. Cruel, I know.
>Devon, but after an enormous amount of mulling over we decided it was not
>a house to retire into, on account of being too big and having too much land.
Agreed. We keep looking at houses similar to this one, but what would
be the point?
>on her own.
Well, yes, there is that.
Ah. Move into rented? That introduces the horror of moving twice. It
is the thought of packing and moving that keeps putting me off the whole
idea.
--
Graeme
<Hu...@nowhere.much.invalid> writes
>On 2015-06-20, News <Gra...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>Having now retired, the world is theoretically our oyster, which
>> makes the whole business far more complicated, even though it shouldn't.
>
>We've already realised this. Tiresome, isn't it?
>>Having now retired, the world is theoretically our oyster, which
>> makes the whole business far more complicated, even though it shouldn't.
>
Extremely. We moved to Aberdeenshire 13 years ago, and enjoy life here.
The Moray coast beckons, but my Mum is 500 miles south, and would love
us, and her only grandson, to move in that direction but, given that she
is 91, she may live another few years or may expire a week after we
move. I keep thinking if we put off a decision long enough, poor old
Mum will be out of the equation. Cruel, I know.
>
>>Now, in my 60s, I have
>> finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
>> slowing down as the years pass.
>
>Yep. I'm 61 and retiring in 10 weeks. We found a splendid house in North
>>Now, in my 60s, I have
>> finally accepted that there is an end in sight, or at least a major
>> slowing down as the years pass.
>
>Devon, but after an enormous amount of mulling over we decided it was not
>a house to retire into, on account of being too big and having too much land.
Agreed. We keep looking at houses similar to this one, but what would
be the point?
>
>> Popping my
>> clogs doesn't worry me
>
>It worries me in the sense that we have to have somewhere my wife can manage
>> Popping my
>> clogs doesn't worry me
>
>on her own.
Well, yes, there is that.
>
>> The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>> make a decision.
>
>We've sold our house ...
>> The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>> make a decision.
>
Ah. Move into rented? That introduces the horror of moving twice. It
is the thought of packing and moving that keeps putting me off the whole
idea.
--
Graeme
News
Jun 20, 2015, 11:34:48 AM6/20/15
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In message <UeeAm6DO...@bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer
<to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
saying they didn't know where they found time to work for a living. Now
I understand. We've been retired 21 months, and it has flown by.
Catching up with a million jobs that had been put off, but doing
everything slightly more leisurely, I suppose. Just having time to do
stuff without trying to cram everything into the weekend. Sit on our
arses when we want to. Sit up late without worrying about getting up
early tomorrow. Leisurely walks with the dog. Actually having time to
read the paper, read books, listen to the radio. All simple stuff.
Potter in the garden. Active, but not frantic. Consult the calendar,
not the clock :-)
young (62 & 58) things could change at any moment. Live for today.
--
Graeme
<to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
>
>What do you do when your retired?, can't play golf all the time or
>holiday you'd get fed up with it wouldn't you?..
Good question. When I worked, I could have punched retirees who kept
>What do you do when your retired?, can't play golf all the time or
>holiday you'd get fed up with it wouldn't you?..
saying they didn't know where they found time to work for a living. Now
I understand. We've been retired 21 months, and it has flown by.
Catching up with a million jobs that had been put off, but doing
everything slightly more leisurely, I suppose. Just having time to do
stuff without trying to cram everything into the weekend. Sit on our
arses when we want to. Sit up late without worrying about getting up
early tomorrow. Leisurely walks with the dog. Actually having time to
read the paper, read books, listen to the radio. All simple stuff.
Potter in the garden. Active, but not frantic. Consult the calendar,
not the clock :-)
>
>>The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>>make a decision.
>
>Or let that bitch nature take her inevitable course;-(...
Absolutely :-) We've both concluded that, although we're relatively
>>The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>>make a decision.
>
>Or let that bitch nature take her inevitable course;-(...
young (62 & 58) things could change at any moment. Live for today.
--
Graeme
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tony sayer
Jun 21, 2015, 7:42:37 AM6/21/15
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In article <lolp6bMx...@nospam.demon.co.uk>, News
<Gra...@nospam.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
But then again like my old Irish mum I like it where we're busy;)..
>>
>>>The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>>>make a decision.
>>
>>Or let that bitch nature take her inevitable course;-(...
>
>Absolutely :-) We've both concluded that, although we're relatively
>young (62 & 58) things could change at any moment. Live for today.
>
Yes quite, the number of "50 something's" that keep popping off in the
paper is a cause for some concern;!....
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Tony Sayer
<Gra...@nospam.demon.co.uk> scribeth thus
>In message <UeeAm6DO...@bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer
><to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
>>
>>What do you do when your retired?, can't play golf all the time or
>>holiday you'd get fed up with it wouldn't you?..
>
>Good question. When I worked, I could have punched retirees who kept
>saying they didn't know where they found time to work for a living. Now
>I understand. We've been retired 21 months, and it has flown by.
>Catching up with a million jobs that had been put off, but doing
>everything slightly more leisurely, I suppose. Just having time to do
>stuff without trying to cram everything into the weekend. Sit on our
>arses when we want to. Sit up late without worrying about getting up
>early tomorrow. Leisurely walks with the dog. Actually having time to
>read the paper, read books, listen to the radio. All simple stuff.
>Potter in the garden. Active, but not frantic. Consult the calendar,
>not the clock :-)
Well some of that we already do on slack days;).
><to...@bancom.co.uk> writes
>>
>>What do you do when your retired?, can't play golf all the time or
>>holiday you'd get fed up with it wouldn't you?..
>
>Good question. When I worked, I could have punched retirees who kept
>saying they didn't know where they found time to work for a living. Now
>I understand. We've been retired 21 months, and it has flown by.
>Catching up with a million jobs that had been put off, but doing
>everything slightly more leisurely, I suppose. Just having time to do
>stuff without trying to cram everything into the weekend. Sit on our
>arses when we want to. Sit up late without worrying about getting up
>early tomorrow. Leisurely walks with the dog. Actually having time to
>read the paper, read books, listen to the radio. All simple stuff.
>Potter in the garden. Active, but not frantic. Consult the calendar,
>not the clock :-)
But then again like my old Irish mum I like it where we're busy;)..
>>
>>>The answer, of course, is to do nothing. Just stay here until forced to
>>>make a decision.
>>
>>Or let that bitch nature take her inevitable course;-(...
>
>Absolutely :-) We've both concluded that, although we're relatively
>young (62 & 58) things could change at any moment. Live for today.
>
paper is a cause for some concern;!....
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Tony Sayer
DJC
Jun 23, 2015, 3:25:36 PM6/23/15
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On 20/06/15 08:52, Chris J Dixon wrote:
> News wrote:
>
>> We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>> Popping my
>> clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>> to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
"hope do die before I get old". I am 60, semi-retired, the university
> News wrote:
>
>> We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>> Popping my
>> clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>> to do much.
>
> In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
> anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
has started paying my pension rather earlier than I expected. The reason
to move now is to go somewhere nicer now I no longer need to be where
the work is; and to do so before I get too old to enjoy it. So, I do
look at places deep in the country and think what happens in maybe 15
years time when needing to drive to the nearest shop? Will I really want
a garden? But general infirmity? I will take my chance: I have already
lived longer than my father and collected my pensin for longer than my
grandfather.
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bert
Jun 23, 2015, 5:53:57 PM6/23/15
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In article <9q6aoalqeuddfafq4...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
On a bus route close to shops post office bank urban areas generally get
better support.
--
bert
<ch...@cdixon.me.uk> writes
>News wrote:
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
>In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
>Chris
>
>>We could go anywhere, although hope this will be the last move.
>
>>Popping my
>>clogs doesn't worry me - it is just running out of steam, not being able
>>to do much.
>
>In selecting a "last house" what are the thoughts on the ways to
>anticipate coping with various levels of infirmity?
>
On a bus route close to shops post office bank urban areas generally get
better support.
--
bert
bert
Jun 23, 2015, 5:53:57 PM6/23/15
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In article <mC9mQTRF...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, Tim Lamb
<t...@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> writes
form of exercise.
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bert
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