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AL_n

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Sep 24, 2010, 5:43:40 AM9/24/10
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Is B&Q currently in some kind of financial crisis? I went into my local
store yesterday and found that every item on my shopping list was sold out.
Today, I was hoping to reserve a list of nine other items from a much
larger depot (in Poole, Dorset) and every item on my list proved to be "out
of stock".

Al

Cicero

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Sep 24, 2010, 6:17:27 AM9/24/10
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Same with Screwfix - two out of four items out of stock (including a pop
rivetter) with a promise to get them next day. I went to a proper tool
store about 100 yards away and they had six different pop rivetters
available although the prices were higher.

Cic.

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Adrian C

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Sep 24, 2010, 7:26:12 AM9/24/10
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On 24/09/2010 11:17, Cicero wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 09:43:40 +0000, AL_n wrote:
>
>> Is B&Q currently in some kind of financial crisis? I went into my local
>> store yesterday and found that every item on my shopping list was sold
>> out. Today, I was hoping to reserve a list of nine other items from a
>> much larger depot (in Poole, Dorset) and every item on my list proved to
>> be "out of stock".

B&Q seems to be run by machines, not humans - and those computers don't
seem to be programmed that well. I've been through the mill of ...

1) pre-ordering things,
2) expecting things to be on stock on shelves,
3) navigating their website,
4) paying at the self-service checkout,
5) and even, applying for a job...

... and it's almost always been a let down. The last one was a bit of a
smack in the mouth when the HR computer sent it's stupidly generated
psychometric profile opinion of why I didn't fit an office job, having
previously been successful at that king of thing. Destructive criticism
that would have sent a prediagnosed depressive applicant straight over
the top on his medication ...

Luckily I have a choice of other retailers, and Toolstation is currently
top of my list for satisfaction.

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harry

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Sep 24, 2010, 8:35:18 AM9/24/10
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It's all about stock levels and turnover. Hypercritical these days
with any retailer. Stuff on the shelves all represents money lost
through interest payments.

Andy Dingley

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Sep 24, 2010, 8:47:02 AM9/24/10
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On 24 Sep, 13:35, harry <haroldhr...@aol.com> wrote:

> It's all about stock levels and turnover.  Hypercritical these days
> with any retailer.  Stuff on the shelves all represents money lost
> through interest payments.

Stuff not on the shelves represents customers lost.

I no longer go to Screwfix, even though they're much closer. It was
the out-of-stock rate that did for it.

Geo

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Sep 24, 2010, 10:24:48 AM9/24/10
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But if you had lampshades and cushions on your list you would not have had the
problem...

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Nightjar

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Sep 24, 2010, 12:05:37 PM9/24/10
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On 24/09/2010 13:35, harry wrote:
> On 24 Sep, 10:43, "AL_n"<fgdfg...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:
>> Is B&Q currently in some kind of financial crisis? I went into my local
>> store yesterday and found that every item on my shopping list was sold out.
>> Today, I was hoping to reserve a list of nine other items from a much
>> larger depot (in Poole, Dorset) and every item on my list proved to be "out
>> of stock".
>>
>> Al
>
> It's all about stock levels and turnover. Hypercritical these days
> with any retailer.

You don't get turnover if there is nothing on the shelves for people to buy.

> Stuff on the shelves all represents money lost
> through interest payments.

Empty shelves represent sales lost and, as the OP suggests, is all too
often a sign that a retailer is having financial problems.

Colin Bignell

Pete Zahut

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Sep 24, 2010, 12:37:44 PM9/24/10
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I like a particular brand of bread but I'm having difficulty in getting it
at my local supermarket as they don't seem to be getting in as much as they
used to. Had a word with the person responsible for bread ordering and was
told that they can now only order in what they know they will be able to
sell, to cut down on wastage - so they're purposely ordering on the low side
to avoid being bollocked for wastage. I said that if they order more,
they'll sell more and avoid disgruntled customers going to the other
supermarket a mile away, but they won't.


AL_n

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Sep 24, 2010, 1:04:25 PM9/24/10
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Geo <hw9j...@dea.spamcon.org> wrote in
news:t3dp961hdfu59v7og...@4ax.com:

> But if you had lampshades and cushions on your list you would not have
> had the problem...

Unfortunately, I can't complete the guttering job on my house with
lampshades and cusions. ((-;

Al

Spamlet

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Sep 24, 2010, 3:06:04 PM9/24/10
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"Pete Zahut" <a...@b.invalid> wrote in message
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The cynic in me says that they are trying to make you pick up a more
expensive brand instead. I like the big bags of small roast peanuts - much
sweeter than the big ones as well as being 'budget items' - that they
'sell' - rarely - in Sainsburys. They only have the big bags in the
stores - not on line - and the space where they are supposed to be is always
empty.

S


Spamlet

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Sep 24, 2010, 3:11:45 PM9/24/10
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"AL_n" <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote in message
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I've not been able to complete even lists of three or four items in ether
B&Q or Screwfix lately (this year, in fact). Plus the range in Screwfix is
getting much smaller and more pricey too. Defeats the whole 'shed' raison
de'etre. One-stop shopping becomes ten sheds and a mail order!
Increasingly I'm finding most of what I buy is ending up coming from Amazon
these days!

S


Grimly Curmudgeon

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Sep 24, 2010, 3:41:04 PM9/24/10
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Adrian C <em...@here.invalid>
saying something like:

>The last one was a bit of a
>smack in the mouth when the HR computer sent it's stupidly generated
>psychometric profile opinion of why I didn't fit an office job, having
>previously been successful at that king of thing. Destructive criticism
>that would have sent a prediagnosed depressive applicant straight over
>the top on his medication ...

I'm amazed that even Bugger and Queer would be so crass as to do that.
More exactly, employ someone so crass and insensitive as to give the ok
to send assessments like that out.

AL_n

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Sep 24, 2010, 3:48:23 PM9/24/10
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"Spamlet" <spam.m...@invalid.invalid> wrote in news:i7isr5$bq1$1
@news.eternal-september.org:

> The cynic in me says that they are trying to make you pick up a more
> expensive brand instead.

Not so. I was trying to order the most expensive brand of guttering
components on their site. Marley deepflow guttering - most of the job has
been completed with that stuff, so nothing else will do. It seems to be
only B&Q that stocks it in my area.

Al

Spamlet

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Sep 24, 2010, 5:25:12 PM9/24/10
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"AL_n" <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9DFDD332...@130.133.4.11...

I was replying to Peter's diversion into grocery products.
OT I know, but it just made me think of the seemingly deliberately empty own
brand spaces at Sainsburys.

In my own reply to your post you will see that I share your frustration with
B&Q, and sheds in general.

S


Dave Liquorice

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Sep 24, 2010, 6:00:44 PM9/24/10
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On 24 Sep 2010 19:48:23 GMT, AL_n wrote:

> It seems to be only B&Q that stocks it in my area.

Marley Deep Flow. Is that checking local builders merchants or just
the sheds? I'd be surprised if none of the local BMs don't stock it.
Of course you probably won't find your local BMs stock list on the
web. You might <shock horror> have to go to them or make a phone
call.

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AL_n

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Sep 25, 2010, 2:02:09 AM9/25/10
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"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote in
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk:

>> It seems to be only B&Q that stocks it in my area.
>
> Marley Deep Flow. Is that checking local builders merchants or just
> the sheds? I'd be surprised if none of the local BMs don't stock it.
> Of course you probably won't find your local BMs stock list on the
> web. You might <shock horror> have to go to them or make a phone
> call.

Thanks for the suggestion. It's probably worth my looking in the yellow
pages. I already checked with Travis Perkins, and I've never seen the stuff
in Jewsons, but perhpas there are other less visible BMs lurking in the
nether regions of my local industrial estate...

Al

harry

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Sep 25, 2010, 2:16:28 AM9/25/10
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On 24 Sep, 10:43, "AL_n" <fgdfg...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:

The problem actually is that we have neglected the small family shops
and they have disappeared. Now the B&Qs have us in their power (and
are no longer cheap)

AL_n

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Sep 25, 2010, 2:59:25 PM9/25/10
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harry <harol...@aol.com> wrote in
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Much as I like corner shops, and much as I hate to disagree, I don't think
that's the problem at all. The DIY sheds buy their stock in large
quantities compared to corner shops, which means they can charge less than
corner shops. Furthermore there are several DIY sheds all in competition
with each other which helps to keep prices fair. The 'no longer cheap'
effect (a.k.a. inflation) affects corner shops as well as DIY sheds.

Al

John Rumm

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Sep 25, 2010, 9:55:24 PM9/25/10
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Its also an indication of a catalogue based sales organisation
attempting to carry too wide a product range - the shops and trade
counters don't have room for much quantity of anything.

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The Medway Handyman

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Sep 26, 2010, 5:16:19 AM9/26/10
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Except that the 'sheds' are no longer cheap. Compare Toolstations prices to
Wickes or B&Q.

Flexible tap connector £6:99 in Wickes, £0:98 from Toolstation, 8 x 100
hammer fixings, pack of 20 in B&Q £8, pack of 10 from Toolstation £0:77.


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The Natural Philosopher

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Sep 26, 2010, 5:26:47 AM9/26/10
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
> AL_n wrote:
>> harry <harol...@aol.com> wrote in
>> news:ad643a0c-ca26-44b6...@l6g2000yqb.googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On 24 Sep, 10:43, "AL_n" <fgdfg...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:
>>>> Is B&Q currently in some kind of financial crisis? I went into my
>>>> local store yesterday and found that every item on my shopping list
>>>> was sold out. Today, I was hoping to reserve a list of nine other
>>>> items from a much larger depot (in Poole, Dorset) and every item on
>>>> my list proved to be "out of stock".
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>> The problem actually is that we have neglected the small family shops
>>> and they have disappeared. Now the B&Qs have us in their power (and
>>> are no longer cheap)
>> Much as I like corner shops, and much as I hate to disagree, I don't
>> think that's the problem at all. The DIY sheds buy their stock in
>> large quantities compared to corner shops, which means they can
>> charge less than corner shops. Furthermore there are several DIY
>> sheds all in competition with each other which helps to keep prices
>> fair. The 'no longer cheap' effect (a.k.a. inflation) affects corner
>> shops as well as DIY sheds.
>
> Except that the 'sheds' are no longer cheap. Compare Toolstations prices to
> Wickes or B&Q.
>

Sheds never *were* cheap. Except for the odd bought in bulk and knocked
out at a loss for marketing purposes and too crap to be stocked by
anyone else.

> Flexible tap connector £6:99 in Wickes, £0:98 from Toolstation, 8 x 100
> hammer fixings, pack of 20 in B&Q £8, pack of 10 from Toolstation £0:77.
>
>

I remember buying on impulse a pair of simple bath taps, HALF PRICE £10
only!! from B&Q.

When I got them I realised I actually wanted basin taps, so I got a pair
from a hardware store at £7.50.

When building this house, I visted sheds several times to try and get
basic useful building materials or fiottings. In every case the builders
merchant was cheaper and better quality.

I think I have a shower glass shelf from Homeabse, and that's about it.
I didn't know tyhe glaziers would cut and toughen glass, or have the
fittings to make glass shelves, then.

fred

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Sep 27, 2010, 6:38:53 AM9/27/10
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In article <JbEno.20243$HG7....@newsfe30.ams2>, The Medway Handyman
<davi...@no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> writes

>
>Except that the 'sheds' are no longer cheap. Compare Toolstations prices to
>Wickes or B&Q.
>
>Flexible tap connector £6:99 in Wickes, £0:98 from Toolstation, 8 x 100
>hammer fixings, pack of 20 in B&Q £8, pack of 10 from Toolstation £0:77.
>
I think Toolstation are still building market share (my local is always
quieter than the adjacent Sfx) and they will hike their prices once they
have it. They're in the same group as Travis Perkins so I can't see
their business motives being all that altruistic.
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Mark

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Sep 28, 2010, 4:04:47 AM9/28/10
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My last experience from B&Q was a pain too. SWMBO bought some glass
lampshades from there. We broke one a week later and I went back.
Despite the fact I could see one on display I was told they were
discontinued and they had none in stock. Would they fetch the one I
could see? Of course not (for Elf & Safe-tea reasons).
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Sep 28, 2010, 5:37:28 AM9/28/10
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On 28 Sep, 09:04, Mark <i...@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:11:45 +0100, "Spamlet"
>
>
>
> <spam.mores...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
> >"AL_n" <fgdfg...@fghfghfg.com> wrote in message

Find one of those big ladder things and get it down yourself.
Simon.

AL_n

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Sep 29, 2010, 5:51:06 AM9/29/10
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> On 24 Sep 2010 09:43:40 GMT, "AL_n" <fgdf...@fghfghfg.com> wrote:


Agreed - or paints or adhesives or flooring, it seems.

I went to B&Q again today for what must be some of the most essential
everyday plumbing bits - a sink trap, some straight 15mm speedfit
connectors. Nothing! Lots of empty spaces in the plumbing department
shelves. Go to the paint department, and you can choose from six different
brands of emulsion, and five different makes of caulk! And enough choices
of floor tiles to make you dizzy.

Al

terence...@btopenworld.com

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Jun 14, 2020, 12:39:41 PM6/14/20
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Same in Weymouth, no own brand filler, no paint brushes (only 10mm ones) no paint Kettles and no Cuprinol fence paint for the last 5 weeks. If the economy is on a downturn it's because we cannot buy anything. I'm going back home and self isolating until the shops get some stock. They open tomorrow what they will be selling who knows.

Another Dave

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Jun 14, 2020, 12:44:41 PM6/14/20
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The post you're replying to is 10 years old. Plus ca change...

Another Dave

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Brian Gaff (Sofa)

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Jun 15, 2020, 3:20:00 AM6/15/20
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Where are thes posts from times of yore coming from or is the backbone of
usenet severely confused watt the year is?
Brian

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Andy Burns

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Brian Gaff wrote:

> Where are these posts from times of yore coming from

Google have launched a revamped version of Groups maybe that's dragging
old posts out of the woodwork?

RobH

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Jun 15, 2020, 4:12:49 AM6/15/20
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I was looking in B&Qs website last week for a specific item. They had a
picture of it, but lower down the page it said that they no longer stock
it. Eh?
Why have a picture of the item if they don't sell it.????

Wilkos is nearly as bad with loads of empty spaces on their shelves. It
seems like a case of when it's gone it's gone.

tim...

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"Brian Gaff (Sofa)" <bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Where are thes posts from times of yore coming from or is the backbone of
> usenet severely confused watt the year is?

Oh so it's an old one

I thought that as the subject was prescient (have you tried buying plaster
this week?)

that it was a new posting

:-(

tim



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Jun 15, 2020, 7:43:32 AM6/15/20
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RobH wrote on 15/06/2020 :
> Wilkos is nearly as bad with loads of empty spaces on their shelves. It seems
> like a case of when it's gone it's gone.

Same here, affecting all of the local shops. There seems to be no
shortage of stock generally, just shortage of certain lines. Maybe
those producers of the 'certain lines' have not yet been able to
restart their production/ distribution system?

Bob Eager

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Jun 15, 2020, 9:02:01 AM6/15/20
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I'm waiting for Tunnock's.



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Andy Burns

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Jun 15, 2020, 5:31:10 PM6/15/20
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Bob Eager wrote:

> I'm waiting for Tunnock's.

Caramel wafers or mallow teacakes?

Not noticed any shortage of the former, never buy the latter.

Bob Eager

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Jun 15, 2020, 6:02:18 PM6/15/20
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Both. The factory shut in mid-March. The supply chain is empty round here.

alan_m

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Jun 16, 2020, 4:50:59 AM6/16/20
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On 15/06/2020 23:02, Bob Eager wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 22:31:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Bob Eager wrote:
>>
>>> I'm waiting for Tunnock's.
>>
>> Caramel wafers or mallow teacakes?
>>
>> Not noticed any shortage of the former, never buy the latter.
>
> Both. The factory shut in mid-March. The supply chain is empty round here.
>

Go on some certain groups on social media and you will find some people
in total lock-down, who demand all other should be doing the same,
criticise the number of people in cars travelling down their road BUT
are reliant of others to deliver their food and then complain that
certain (non-essential) items are not available in supermarkets where
their helpers do their shopping!

I unsubscribed to one such "self help" group when the majority of
requests became for certain varieties of cat food and other such
"luxury" items !!!


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Bob Eager

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Jun 16, 2020, 5:16:01 AM6/16/20
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On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 09:50:55 +0100, alan_m wrote:

> On 15/06/2020 23:02, Bob Eager wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 22:31:06 +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Eager wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm waiting for Tunnock's.
>>>
>>> Caramel wafers or mallow teacakes?
>>>
>>> Not noticed any shortage of the former, never buy the latter.
>>
>> Both. The factory shut in mid-March. The supply chain is empty round
>> here.
>>
>>
> Go on some certain groups on social media and you will find some people
> in total lock-down, who demand all other should be doing the same,
> criticise the number of people in cars travelling down their road BUT
> are reliant of others to deliver their food and then complain that
> certain (non-essential) items are not available in supermarkets where
> their helpers do their shopping!

I'm not complaining. I understand why they shut down and I don't blame
them. I'm just a bit desperate, and I know it'll probably be a while yet!

WE tend to buy in bulk anyway so we haven't had any real problems here.

charles

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Jun 16, 2020, 5:52:56 AM6/16/20
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In article <hkrffg...@mid.individual.net>,
some cats are very fussy eaters.

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Dave Plowman (News)

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Jun 16, 2020, 6:27:22 AM6/16/20
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> Go on some certain groups on social media and you will find some people
> in total lock-down, who demand all other should be doing the same,
> criticise the number of people in cars travelling down their road BUT
> are reliant of others to deliver their food and then complain that
> certain (non-essential) items are not available in supermarkets where
> their helpers do their shopping!

Quite common on a local group to get some complaining about the numbers
out and about. And the only way they could be sure of this is if they are
out and about themselves. But obviously on an essential trip. Everyone
else not. ;-)

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alan_m

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Jun 16, 2020, 11:38:37 AM6/16/20
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On 16/06/2020 11:23, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <hkrffg...@mid.individual.net>,
> alan_m <ju...@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
>> Go on some certain groups on social media and you will find some people
>> in total lock-down, who demand all other should be doing the same,
>> criticise the number of people in cars travelling down their road BUT
>> are reliant of others to deliver their food and then complain that
>> certain (non-essential) items are not available in supermarkets where
>> their helpers do their shopping!
>
> Quite common on a local group to get some complaining about the numbers
> out and about. And the only way they could be sure of this is if they are
> out and about themselves. But obviously on an essential trip. Everyone
> else not. ;-)
>

The other problem is people in lock down believing everything they read
on social media and in some other news media. I know of people
complaining about the crowds on Southend sea front after one local
councillor reported that Londoners has been stopped and questioned by
council officials about why they were on the beach. I drove the whole
length of Southend sea front at the time that people were complaining
about and didn't see these crowds! Yes, there were small family groups
out for a walk keeping social distancing and people cycling and running
but in numbers that you may see on a WINTERS day, and not on a hot sunny
day. All seafront attractions, pubs, restaurants etc. were closed.

My trip was possibly unnecessary but when I go for my fortnightly trip
to the local supermarket I tend to go around the "big" block to give my
car some exercise and give it some distance with it up to temperature.
The last time I filled it with fuel was at the end of February and in
normal times would have covered at least 2k miles since.

alan_m

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Jun 16, 2020, 11:40:42 AM6/16/20
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On 16/06/2020 10:48, charles wrote:

> some cats are very fussy eaters.
>

I bet they are not when hungry and nothing else is forthcoming.

bert

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In article <588173bd...@candehope.me.uk>, charles
<cha...@candehope.me.uk> writes
Most, in my experience and always gravitate to the most expensive.
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