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tarquinlinbin

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Sep 19, 2004, 10:11:33 AM9/19/04
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I may shortly have the job of painting walls and ceilings in a home
that was previously occupied by an avid smoker. I intend to use good
quality vinyl matt/silk paints and wondered what problems i might
encounter in this circumstance?. What may be the best way to wash down
the walls before painting? Is there a solution in a bottle from the
sheds?. Some of the walls appear to be drylined plasterboard with
lining paper on them?,I'm wary of damaging the original plasterboard
surface,,

all advice welcome!!

regards

joe

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Rick Dipper

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Sep 19, 2004, 11:13:32 AM9/19/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:11:33 +0100, tarquinlinbin <bra...@hotmail.com>
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Sir

I would "de smell" the house before you start, and that means a jolly
good clean. If its a house you are buying take a day or two with no
furniture in the place. I preasure wash everthing, and suck all the
water up with a carpet cleaner when I do this in my place, but then I
don't have any modern new fangled materials to worry about, like
bricks or plasterboard.

Dave Stanton

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Sep 19, 2004, 11:45:44 AM9/19/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:11:33 +0100, tarquinlinbin wrote:

> I may shortly have the job of painting walls and ceilings in a home
> that was previously occupied by an avid smoker. I intend to use good
> quality vinyl matt/silk paints and wondered what problems i might
> encounter in this circumstance?. What may be the best way to wash down
> the walls before painting? Is there a solution in a bottle from the
> sheds?. Some of the walls appear to be drylined plasterboard with
> lining paper on them?,I'm wary of damaging the original plasterboard
> surface,,
>
> all advice welcome!!
>
> regards
>
> joe

My mothers sheltered flat was like that, we left lots of nice smelly
things around in every room for a week such as airwick etc. And
redecorated it all out. That was 2 years ago and the faint smell lingered
until about Jan of this year.

Dave
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tarquinlinbin

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Sep 19, 2004, 3:47:51 PM9/19/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:45:44 +0100, Dave Stanton <m...@privacy.net>
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Its not really the smell I'm concerned about,its painting and still
having it show through the new paint..!

Rick Dipper

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:15:41 PM9/19/04
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On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:47:51 +0100, tarquinlinbin <bra...@hotmail.com>
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Just paint it like its white paint on a black wall, you choose good
quality paint, and if need be do 3 coats.

Rick

RichardS

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:32:38 PM9/19/04
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I guess it's the tar that causes the staining, so I'd attempt to prepare by
treating it like any surface oil or grease, namely wash down with a decent
strength sugar soap solution.

Just watch out for your hands with sugar soap - it also does a pretty good
job of removing any oils that might be present in your skin, leaving you
with hands like coarse sandpaper...


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Michael Mcneil

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:49:27 PM9/19/04
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"RichardS" <noone@invalid> wrote in message
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> I guess it's the tar that causes the staining, so I'd attempt to prepare by
> treating it like any surface oil or grease, namely wash down with a decent
> strength sugar soap solution.
>
> Just watch out for your hands with sugar soap - it also does a pretty good
> job of removing any oils that might be present in your skin, leaving you
> with hands like coarse sandpaper...


I don't think you can use water to wash plasterboard with. You can seal
it with something though.

It's tar on gloss that really needs washing off anyway. Use magnolia
instead of white and the first 2 coats will be enough -or enough to show
that you are going to need more.


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chris French

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:44:34 PM9/19/04
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In message <4sqrk09horgqtfhoe...@4ax.com>, Rick Dipper
<rick....@cwcom.net> writes

>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 20:47:51 +0100, tarquinlinbin <bra...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:45:44 +0100, Dave Stanton <m...@privacy.net>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:11:33 +0100, tarquinlinbin wrote:
>>>
>>>> I may shortly have the job of painting walls and ceilings in a home
>>>> that was previously occupied by an avid smoker.
>>>
>>>My mothers sheltered flat was like that, we left lots of nice smelly
>>>things around in every room for a week such as airwick etc.
>>>Dave
>>Its not really the smell I'm concerned about,its painting and still
>>having it show through the new paint..!
>
>Just paint it like its white paint on a black wall, you choose good
>quality paint, and if need be do 3 coats.

IME The staining will still come through
- it's not a case of covering up dark colour, the brown staining
migrates through the paint layer - it's a quick process, you can almost
see it happening before your eyes.
--
Chris French, Leeds

chris French

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:45:37 PM9/19/04
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In message <aiork011jipiggub7...@4ax.com>, tarquinlinbin
<bra...@hotmail.com> writes

>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 16:45:44 +0100, Dave Stanton <m...@privacy.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 19 Sep 2004 15:11:33 +0100, tarquinlinbin wrote:
>>
>>> I may shortly have the job of painting walls and ceilings in a home
>>> that was previously occupied by an avid smoker. I intend to use good
>>> quality vinyl matt/silk paints and wondered what problems i might
>>> encounter in this circumstance?. What may be the best way to wash down
>>> the walls before painting? Is there a solution in a bottle from the
>>> sheds?. Some of the walls appear to be drylined plasterboard with
>>> lining paper on them?,I'm wary of damaging the original plasterboard
>>> surface,,

>>My mothers sheltered flat was like that, we left lots of nice smelly


>>things around in every room for a week such as airwick etc. And
>>redecorated it all out. That was 2 years ago and the faint smell lingered
>>until about Jan of this year.

>Its not really the smell I'm concerned about,its painting and still


>having it show through the new paint..!
>

Many of the walls and ceilings in this house we very stained as well.
For washing down, sugar soap (from any shed /hardware shop) will be as
good as anything, even plain warm water removes it. But expect to have
to wash down a few (say 3) times, even then you may find some staining
comes through.

I reckon the best thing if at all possible is to remove and replace
existing coverings if at all possible - in our house we eventually
re-plastered most rooms anyway.

You can use a stain blocking paint first before the top coats, and this
does the job, but it's a bit more expensive, and rather smelly (as in
the solvents) to use.
--
Chris French, Leeds

Anna Kettle

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Sep 19, 2004, 4:58:52 PM9/19/04
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>> encounter in this circumstance?. What may be the best way to wash down
>> the walls before painting? Is there a solution in a bottle from the
>> sheds?.

Yes. Sugar soap + water

>>Some of the walls appear to be drylined plasterboard with
>> lining paper on them?,I'm wary of damaging the original plasterboard
>> surface,,

Sugar soap and not much water maybe.

Anna
~~ Anna Kettle, Suffolk, England
|""""| ~ Lime plaster repairs
/ ^^ \ // Freehand modelling in lime: overmantels, pargeting etc
|____| www.kettlenet.co.uk 01359 230642

Dave Plowman (News)

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Sep 19, 2004, 1:37:38 PM9/19/04
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In article <fn4rk09sfup5vk03h...@4ax.com>,

tarquinlinbin <bra...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I may shortly have the job of painting walls and ceilings in a home
> that was previously occupied by an avid smoker. I intend to use good
> quality vinyl matt/silk paints and wondered what problems i might
> encounter in this circumstance?. What may be the best way to wash down
> the walls before painting? Is there a solution in a bottle from the
> sheds?. Some of the walls appear to be drylined plasterboard with
> lining paper on them?,I'm wary of damaging the original plasterboard
> surface,,

A normal sugar soap solution will remove the tar ok. Same on the
plasterboard - if it's been painted. If it's just unpainted lining paper,
dunno.

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The Natural Philosopher

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Sep 20, 2004, 5:53:46 AM9/20/04
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Michael Mcneil wrote:

> "RichardS" <noone@invalid> wrote in message
> news:414deceb$0$26588$afc3...@news.easynet.co.uk
>
>
>>I guess it's the tar that causes the staining, so I'd attempt to prepare by
>>treating it like any surface oil or grease, namely wash down with a decent
>>strength sugar soap solution.
>>
>>Just watch out for your hands with sugar soap - it also does a pretty good
>>job of removing any oils that might be present in your skin, leaving you
>>with hands like coarse sandpaper...
>
>
>
> I don't think you can use water to wash plasterboard with. You can seal
> it with something though.

You can use water. Just don't completely soak it.

FrancisJK

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Sep 20, 2004, 7:11:11 AM9/20/04
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"tarquinlinbin" <bra...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi,

Some years ago I was given a link to B-I-N by Zinnser.

http://www.zinsser.com

No, I don't work for them.

I've used B-I-N several times.

Expense is relative.

"One man's meat is another man's poison, as the old lady said when she
kissed her cow"

It's alcohol based, so gives of a smell; pleasant or unpleasant depends on
the smeller (see above).

Besides it's one merry way to paint a room! Woo Hoo!


Francis


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