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John Stumbles

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Sep 5, 2002, 7:50:21 PM9/5/02
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CPC are offering this for ~sixty squid plus VAT.

Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?

The spec they give is
o SDS chuck [wonder if they mean SDS or SDS Plus?]
o Oscillating pneumatic hammer action for drilling masonry and
chiselling concrete ['chiselling' seems to imply roto-stop - is it?]
o 850W motor
o 900 rpm no-load speed [doesn't say anything about variable speed -
I guess at this price it's only On or Off]
o Depth stop
o Over-sized comfort trigger
o Soft grip and soft-touch finish [cuddly - ahhhh! :-)]
o Impact rate 3,200 b/min
o Drilling capacity 40mm (wood) 26mm (concrete) 13mm (steel) [implies
hammer stop]
o Supplied in case

The picture shows a rotary-hammer type machine (i.e. the motor hanging
down at right angles to the drive rather than inline as with drills)
with (apart from the trigger) a couple of other controls visible,
which could be hammer stop and rotary stop (with a bit of luck!).
Colours seem to be white(-ish) (or possibly yellow etc if the photo is
b&w) for the motor and trigger handle, with black chuck and forward
handle.

From nutool's web site this appears to be the XP85
http://www.nutool.co.uk/ProductOverview.asp?ProdID=XP85
which gives much the same spec but adds that they throw in a 13mm
jacobs chuck too - I wonder if this makes it to the CPC offering?

any clues welcome!

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David Ware

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Sep 6, 2002, 3:09:19 AM9/6/02
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johnds...@aol.com (John Stumbles) wrote in message news:<860b11bb.02090...@posting.google.com>...

> CPC are offering this for ~sixty squid plus VAT.
>
> Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?
>

<snip>

> any clues welcome!
>
> [if you want to email me use my....@ntlworld.com rather than the lame
> aol address in the posting, where my.name is as below]
>
> tia
> John Stumbles
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I bought what I believe is essentially the same drill from B&Q a
couple of months ago (slightly less curvy shape but the same spec) for
£50. I needed to knock out a hole for a cat flap through a solid wall
apparently made from special diamond-based bricks :-(. My hammer drill
didn't dent them but SDS was suggested. I thought of hiring one but
then saw this one on sale for about the same cost. I thought as long
as it lasts the job I haven't really lost out and if it continues to
work I've got another power tool :-). It did (although it did cut out
for a couple of minutes in the middle - I had words with it and it
started up again) and the ease with which it drilled through the
bricks was incredible.

It's very heavy and I'm not sure how long it will last but it does the
job of drilling/chiselling through brick/concrete very well. So if you
have jobs to be done that your hammer drill can't handle and its only
for occasonal use I'd recommend it. If you don't have a hammer drill
though I'd go for that instead as this is more a brute force machine,
not too good for hanging pictures on walls in my opinion.

David.

Dave Plowman

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Sep 6, 2002, 4:35:39 AM9/6/02
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In article <860b11bb.02090...@posting.google.com>,

John Stumbles <johnds...@aol.com> wrote:
> Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?

Interesting they don't give the impact power, ie 2 kg etc. This is only
usually left out on battery ones.

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Pete Cross

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Sep 6, 2002, 7:13:57 AM9/6/02
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I too have one of these, Argos over a year ago, and agree its heavy
but powerfull. I used it to chisel a drainage hole in the concrete floor
of our greenhouse, it sailed through. It does come with a std chuck and
a couple of chisels/drills, and the colour is correct ie it's grey. I keep a
normal hammer drill for smaller jobs because its a bit unweildly.

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ma005724

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Sep 6, 2002, 8:41:19 AM9/6/02
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John Stumbles wrote:
>
> CPC are offering this for ~sixty squid plus VAT.
>
> Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?

I cannot comment on this particular drill, but I recently bought a Bosch
SDS drill. So far I have not given it much use but initially I was a
little disappointed with its performance. After a short time the
effectiveness improved significantly. Do these types of drill need
'priming'?

Mark B

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Sep 6, 2002, 5:43:45 PM9/6/02
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After a short time the
> effectiveness improved significantly. Do these types of drill need
> 'priming'?


maybe you began to remember to plug it in?

mark b


chris French

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Sep 6, 2002, 6:15:54 PM9/6/02
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In message <3D78A26F...@icn.siemens.de>, ma005724
<0.?@icn.siemens.de.invalid> writes

>
>I cannot comment on this particular drill, but I recently bought a Bosch
>SDS drill. So far I have not given it much use but initially I was a
>little disappointed with its performance. After a short time the
>effectiveness improved significantly. Do these types of drill need
>'priming'?

not that I know off, can't imagine why.

I think they just need a little different technique and a little getting
used to.
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chris French

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Sep 6, 2002, 6:20:18 PM9/6/02
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In message <3d788df5$1...@nntp.onyx.net>, Pete Cross <p...@norwel.co.uk>
writes

>I too have one of these, Argos over a year ago, and agree its heavy
>but powerfull. I used it to chisel a drainage hole in the concrete floor
>of our greenhouse, it sailed through. It does come with a std chuck and
>a couple of chisels/drills, and the colour is correct ie it's grey. I keep a
>normal hammer drill for smaller jobs because its a bit unweildly.
>

The higher powered (800W or so) SDS drills do seem to be significantly
heavier than the lower powered ones (around 500 W or so) as well as
physically larger.

I given mine (Stayer, off the latter type) plenty of use, including
chiselling through the driveway to install a drive post yesterday. I
don't think there is really any need to go for a higher powered one
really.

I haven't used my old hammer drill for that purpose since


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Chris French, Leeds

chris French

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Sep 6, 2002, 6:21:16 PM9/6/02
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In message <860b11bb.02090...@posting.google.com>, John
Stumbles <johnds...@aol.com> writes

>CPC are offering this for ~sixty squid plus VAT.


>Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?
>

No, but I've heard enough bad reports of Nu-tool to steer clear of them
for such tools. Including the cheaper, but lower spec SDS drill they
did/do.

>The spec they give is
> o SDS chuck [wonder if they mean SDS or SDS Plus?]

what is the difference (is there one?)

> o Oscillating pneumatic hammer action for drilling masonry and
>chiselling concrete ['chiselling' seems to imply roto-stop - is it?]
> o 850W motor

Hefty motor, so cheap for it's size, TBH, the typical 500-660W SDS drill
seem more than sufficient, they are much more effective than a normal
hammer drill.

It doesn't say, but you can't chisel without a hammer stop, so it's sure
to have it.


>
>From nutool's web site this appears to be the XP85
>http://www.nutool.co.uk/ProductOverview.asp?ProdID=XP85
>which gives much the same spec but adds that they throw in a 13mm
>jacobs chuck too - I wonder if this makes it to the CPC offering?
>

Not worth bothering about - you are unlikely to use it - I never have
even taken it out of it's plastic wrapper

Personally I look at something a bit better than nu-tool, but horses for
course i guess.
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John Stumbles

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Sep 7, 2002, 4:27:21 AM9/7/02
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chris French <newsp...@chrisfrench.org> wrote in message news:<REVRf4Pc...@spennithorne.demon.co.uk>...

> In message <860b11bb.02090...@posting.google.com>, John
> Stumbles <johnds...@aol.com> writes
> >CPC are offering this for ~sixty squid plus VAT.
>
>
> >Has anyone bought one or got one, and can comment on it?
> >
> No, but I've heard enough bad reports of Nu-tool to steer clear of them
> for such tools. Including the cheaper, but lower spec SDS drill they
> did/do.

Hmmm, what have you heard about them?


> >The spec they give is
> > o SDS chuck [wonder if they mean SDS or SDS Plus?]
>
> what is the difference (is there one?)

As I understand it SDS Plus has some extra dimples or slots in the
bits that an SDS chuck won't accept, though SDS Plus chucks can take
both types of bit. Many years ago a mate bought a blue Bosch SDS drill
and I bought a Wickes job, and got off matey some bits he'd got cheap
but found wouldn't fit in his drill.

> > o Oscillating pneumatic hammer action for drilling masonry and
> >chiselling concrete ['chiselling' seems to imply roto-stop - is it?]
> > o 850W motor
> Hefty motor, so cheap for it's size, TBH, the typical 500-660W SDS drill
> seem more than sufficient, they are much more effective than a normal
> hammer drill.

Yup, the Wickes 500W job is fine for pneumatic work, but I want a more
powerful machine for driving core drills (they recommend 850W min). I
haven't tried with lower powered machines, but it's bound to be
significantly slower so the nutool offer is attractive for that.

If it also does roto-stop I could use it with various chiselling tools
for box sinking and chasing which would be very handy.

> It doesn't say, but you can't chisel without a hammer stop, so it's sure

> to have it. ^^^^^^

you mean rotary stop? Well that's what I was thinking but I wanted to
be sure. Guess I should get onto CPC tech sup and quiz them on the
actual spec.

> Personally I look at something a bit better than nu-tool,

any suggestions for 850W+ SDS machines with roto stop?

cheers,

John Stumbles
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Bob Nixon

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Sep 8, 2002, 6:39:41 AM9/8/02
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I recently bought a "Hilka" 850W SDS plus drill and very happy except you
have to learn how to handle due to extra weight

There is a slight delay before the hammer action starts so took me by
surprise first (thought nothing only rotation was going to happen when I
want rotory /hammer when it suddenly started so I was not fully stable in my
stance and I over-balanced no injury though, ) once I knew this would
happen absolutely fine Fitting outside tap drilling 22mm clearance hole
through house wall and inner cinder style breeze block very quick and
acurate

I did find it too powerful when I had to chase out the wall for electrics
when I fitted new Kitchen I think maybe the cinder blocks we have are to
fragile for its power


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Dave Plowman

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Sep 8, 2002, 9:28:11 AM9/8/02
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In article <alf9g8$1q22dp$1...@ID-107674.news.dfncis.de>,

Bob Nixon <bob....@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> I did find it too powerful when I had to chase out the wall for electrics
> when I fitted new Kitchen I think maybe the cinder blocks we have are to
> fragile for its power

I've not found anything domestically that my 500 watt De Walt won't cope
with, and I wouldn't won't anything heavier for chasing walls etc. If the
tool is too heavy it can be more work than using a hammer and chisel.

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arthur

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Sep 10, 2002, 5:45:55 PM9/10/02
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I've got the own brand (rebadged Kress?) 600W SDS drill that Wickes have
on sale for 112 quid at the moment. Used it a few times now and I'm very
impressed.
Arthur

David Ward

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I have one. Ok for a while then one of the intermediate casting shattered.. So it is F----d
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