Toothbrush charger sockets?
Andy Dingley
socket, and I'm allowed a shaver socket within the relevant zones, but
all the shaver sockets I've seen (which admittedly isn't that many)
have a tendency to hum when something is plugged into them.
Does anyone make a silent socket?
Pete Zahut
Unless you intend to sleep in the bathroom it shouldn't be a problem. We
have a toothbrush permanently plugged into the shaver socket in our ensuite
bathroom and yes, it hums, but after about two minutes you become oblivious
to it.
Jeff Gaines
<74282338-47d3-45a8...@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com> Andy
Dingley wrote:
I had a hummer - I loosened the screws slightly and wiggled it about until
it stopped humming, worked quite well.
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Andrew Gabriel
Buy a good make? I haven't noticed a hum from MK ones I've fitted
over the last decade.
Fit a non-isolating one in the bedroom with the toothbrush
permanently plugged in there, and then lift it off as you go
into the bathroom, returning it afterwards.
Another point about isolating ones when using chargers with them...
They are allowed to output up to 270V off-load, and most chargers
draw so little they are going to see nearly the off-load voltage.
If the charger is a wide voltage range one, it's probably better
for it to be running on the 120V socket.
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OG
"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
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Electric toothbrushes don't need charging more than once or twice a week, so
we have a charger on the landing.
Part timer
wrote:
> Fit a non-isolating one in the bedroom with the toothbrush
> permanently plugged in there, and then lift it off as you go
> into the bathroom, returning it afterwards.
I cut the shaver plug off my Braun and fitted a normal 3A fused plug,
keep it outside the bathroom and put the toothbrush back on charge
after use.
geoff
<74282338-47d3-45a8...@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>,
Andy Dingley <din...@codesmiths.com> writes
Is it important ?
The only time I sleep in the bathroom is when I'm pissed and fall asleep
on the bog - in which case, I'm beyond caring
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Mark BR
"Part timer" <hhmn...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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I wonder how many people do as I did? Put a 13amp socket sort of out of
reach in the bathroom.
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therustyone
> "Andy Dingley" <ding...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
Battery life will be drastically shortened if it is continuously
charged on a typical dumb charger.
Chris J Dixon
Minimal expense, no electrical work.
(1) Or wherever you find convenient.
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Adrian
like they were saying:
> And it would be an even bigger PITB if I had to carry the TB in and out
> of the bathroom every time I used it.
We tend to leave ours in the bathroom, only putting it on the charger
(outside the bathroom) when it needs charging - about once a week with
two of us using it.
John
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I got annoyed with Braun when they altered the hole in the toothbrush body
so that it no longer fitted the wall mounted charger that they used to
supply.
dennis@home
"John" <Who90...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I got annoyed with Braun when they altered the hole in the toothbrush body
> so that it no longer fitted the wall mounted charger that they used to
> supply.
>
That would be because the old one wouldn't work properly with the new one.
I bet you would have been just as annoyed when something broke if they left
it the same.
John
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Yes (if that was the case - but I guess it was cost reduction) - but I wish
they had continued with a wall mountable one.
Martin Bonner
This is one of the things I /do/ like about Germany wiring regs as
opposed to British. You are perfectly free to install a 16A socket
(and a normal light switch) in a bathroom. (Although I was slightly
surprised about the electric socket directly /under/ the tap in the
wall where the washing machine screws in, in our shower-room).
Note that British regs /do/ allow switches and sockets in the kitchen.
David Hansen
Bonner <martin...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote this:-
>This is one of the things I /do/ like about Germany wiring regs as
>opposed to British. You are perfectly free to install a 16A socket
>(and a normal light switch) in a bathroom.
One has always been perfectly free to install a normal light switch
in a bathroom if following the IEE/T Wiring Regulations, provided
that it was located far enough away from the (fixed [1]) bath or
shower [2] and was suitable for the conditions.
Suitable for the conditions was presumably introduced later, though
one could argue that before that the good workmanship provisions
would do much the same thing.
The fact that people nearly always installed a pull cord switch
inside, or an ordinary switch outside, bathrooms in the UK was a
function of it "being the done thing" and the small size of many
bathrooms.
[1] at one time they did specify fixed baths, to distinguish them
from tin baths.
[2] far enough away being out of reach, when the zones were
introduced much the same thing was obtained by the sizes of the
zones. This was presumably introduced at some time and was I imagine
not in the First Edition. Missing things are sometimes spotted, I
recall that it wasn't until recently that it was stated that
energised conductors must be insulated from the earth, though that
has been done since the start of electrical systems for obvious
reasons.
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therustyone
> In article
> <ecd7685d-87b6-4ef1-a73d-a58011e03...@m1g2000vbh.googlegroups.com>,
> (except when I'm using it, of course, or away).
>
> Mine doesn't hum, although I had to replace it when we moved into this
> house as the installed one only worked when the light was turned on - a
> dead loss. The new one doesn't hum either.
>
> And it would be an even bigger PITB if I had to carry the TB in and out
> of the bathroom every time I used it.
>
> Tim
>
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Unscientific observation, based on my cordless phones, the batteries
only seem to last a year on continuous charge when run warm. My Braun
toothbrush battery is now getting a tad weaker after 8 years, and is
charged only when flat.
rusty
Frank Erskine
<johned...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Unscientific observation, based on my cordless phones, the batteries
>only seem to last a year on continuous charge when run warm. My Braun
>toothbrush battery is now getting a tad weaker after 8 years, and is
>charged only when flat.
>
That's my experience too. My toothbrush is also several years old, and
lasts two or three weeks (at least) on a charge.
The charger generally lives either downstairs on the kitchen table or
on the landing outside the bathroom.
Out of interest, is it possible to replace the battery? Indeed, what
sort of battery is used in 'em? My Braun 3D "pulsating toothbrush" is
marked "NH Accu" on the back.
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> "dennis@home" <den...@killspam.kicks-ass.net> wrote in message
>
> news:i7csf5$dbn$1...@news.datemas.de...
>
>
>
> >news:fSkmo.851$HG7...@newsfe30.ams2...
>
> >> I got annoyed with Braun when they altered the hole in the toothbrush
> >> body so that it no longer fitted the wall mounted charger that they used
> >> to supply.
>
> > That would be because the old one wouldn't work properly with the new one.
> > I bet you would have been just as annoyed when something broke if they
> > left it the same.
>
> Yes (if that was the case - but I guess it was cost reduction) - but I wish
> they had continued with a wall mountable one.
You can still get a wall mountable charger, although it's a big b****d
with space for storing brushes. We bought a combination pack of wall
mounted charger and two motors, which seems a bit dumb to me as you
don't have anywhere to put the one that's not on charge, it was a good
deal though. I haven't yet found a small wall mountable one like we
had with the old style Braun brushes, the website listing the various
models is less than clear...
As a previous poster noted, I'm presuming that the new motors have a
different type of battery and hence the charger is different and hence
it's sensible that the old brushes won't go on the new charger and
vice versa. What really annoys me is that there are actually at least
two *different* types of "new" chatger, and if you buy the wrong brush
it still won't fit/work with the other type!
Graham
OG
"Frank Erskine" <frank....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Tabbed C cells were in our -1 Braun toothbrush. Couldn't tell you what
chemistry though.
dennis@home
"Frank Erskine" <frank....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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The base has a slot to allow it to be removed but its to recycle the
battery.
It breaks the coil which is also in the base.
IME the seal goes on the shaft way before the battery.
Then it leaks and the insides corrode stopping it working well.
Maybe a squirt of WD40 every week will make the seal last longer than the
battery?
>
> --
> Frank Erskine
Andy Burns
> Out of interest, is it possible to replace the battery? Indeed, what
> sort of battery is used in 'em?
Mine has a large slot in the base where you can insert and twist e.g a
10p coin to remove the battery for re-cycling ... it DOES warn that
making use of this slot apparently cracks the whole toothbrush case into
two rendering it useless.
OG
>
>
> "Frank Erskine" <frank....@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 14:51:36 -0700 (PDT), therustyone
>> <johned...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Unscientific observation, based on my cordless phones, the batteries
>>>only seem to last a year on continuous charge when run warm. My Braun
>>>toothbrush battery is now getting a tad weaker after 8 years, and is
>>>charged only when flat.
>>>
>> That's my experience too. My toothbrush is also several years old, and
>> lasts two or three weeks (at least) on a charge.
>> The charger generally lives either downstairs on the kitchen table or
>> on the landing outside the bathroom.
>> Out of interest, is it possible to replace the battery? Indeed, what
>> sort of battery is used in 'em? My Braun 3D "pulsating toothbrush" is
>> marked "NH Accu" on the back.
>
> The base has a slot to allow it to be removed but its to recycle the
> battery.
> It breaks the coil which is also in the base.
Can only comment on my -1th Braun that needed a little TLC and a bit more
DIY after a tumble into the bathtub.
Opening the base gave access to the cells and the circuit board. Solder
fixed the damage to the latter and it re-charged fine for a coouple more
years.
A replacement was bought only when the cost of the replacement + 4 heads was
not much more than the cost of 4 heads by themselves.
John
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Push the spindle in as you twist the base - it releases a bayonet.
Reentrant
Braun/OralB. Ours took a 4/5 NiMH tabbed cell. You do have to be a bit
careful with the induction coil but it was quite an easy job - say 10
minutes. I put some vaseline inside the shaft and it seems fine.
But before I realised the battery could be changed we'd bought another
toothbrush unit when they were very cheap at Argos. One charges in a
spare bedroom and we swap when the one in the bathroom when it goes
flat. That solves our buzzing-razor-adapter problem.
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Tinkerer
"Andy Dingley" <din...@codesmiths.com> wrote in message
> How do I charge a toothbrush in the bathroom? It fits a shaver
> socket, and I'm allowed a shaver socket within the relevant zones, but
> all the shaver sockets I've seen (which admittedly isn't that many)
> have a tendency to hum when something is plugged into them.
>
> Does anyone make a silent socket?
I have a dual 110v/230v one which appears to be Homebase own brand and has
never hummed. Regularly used for both my electric razor and toothbrush for
at least 10 years now.
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Steve Firth
> our ensuite bathroom and yes, it hums
Air freshener?
Eat fewer onions?
Pete Zahut
Like it :-)
John
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My house has a Legrand - fitted in 1988. Toothbrush is always plugged in
except when I charge my 110v Razor. No hum and it is on plasterboard.
rowehi...@gmail.com
> How do I charge a toothbrush in the bathroom? It fits a shaver
> socket, and I'm allowed a shaver socket within the relevant zones, but
> all the shaver sockets I've seen (which admittedly isn't that many)
> have a tendency to hum when something is plugged into them.
>
> Does anyone make a silent socket?
MK now have a combined toothbrush/shaver charger.
Tim Watts
All my empirical evidence says they don't care if you run then 12 hours
flat out with a charger on.
> MK now have a combined toothbrush/shaver charger.
>
regulations for bathroom installation so they will all hum.
I suspect better makes like GET (Schneider) or Crabtree will hum less.
F
And you're replying to a 5.5 year old post.
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Brian Gaff
wonders. Could it be that all the people testing their ideas have #
themselves.
Comment. I do not see what the point of an isolating transformer is in
these sockets, as you can presumably still get a heck of a belt off live
mains to neutral should you do something really silly.
Also, as there are now apparently two different pin sizes and spacing for
shaver and charging devices running at the same time, none of the outlets is
in any way firm when something is plugged into them, as it caters for both,
and probably the American style flat pin plugs with no shroud as well.
Also, of course, in some places, notably hotel rooms there is often a wash
basin, and sockets in that room of the 13a type into which people plug
shaver adaptors, often not even fused with no earth or isolation.
To me the whole situation is a muddle and really its surprising if it really
is dangerous, that the body count has not reached epidemic proportions by
now.. :-)
Brian
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Andy Burns
> I do not see what the point of an isolating transformer is in
> these sockets, as you can presumably still get a heck of a belt off live
> mains to neutral should you do something really silly.
live if it wasn't isolated. Additionally you'd have to be trying hard to
get different limbs in contact with different pins for the best chance
of a lethal shock.
Andrew Gabriel
> The charger socket will get hot, as it is only designed for short for the time it takes to shave.
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> wonders. Could it be that all the people testing their ideas have #
> themselves.
> Comment. I do not see what the point of an isolating transformer is in
> these sockets, as you can presumably still get a heck of a belt off live
> mains to neutral should you do something really silly.
earth is completely safe after the isolating transformer.
> Also, as there are now apparently two different pin sizes and spacing for
> shaver and charging devices running at the same time, none of the outlets
> is in any way firm when something is plugged into them, as it caters for
> both, and probably the American style flat pin plugs with no shroud as
> well.
> Also, of course, in some places, notably hotel rooms there is often a wash
> basin, and sockets in that room of the 13a type into which people plug
> shaver adaptors, often not even fused with no earth or isolation.
>
>
> To me the whole situation is a muddle and really its surprising if it
> really is dangerous, that the body count has not reached epidemic
> proportions by now.. :-)
charles
> In article <330748a2-bfed-4fa0...@googlegroups.com>,
> rowehi...@gmail.com writes:
> > The charger socket will get hot, as it is only designed for short for
> > the time it takes to shave.
> Not true.
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Mr Macaw
Or clean your teeth in the kitchen where there are plenty non humming sockets.
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alan_m
> To the OP - they have to have an isolating transformer in to meet
> regulations for bathroom installation so they will all hum.
quality transformers when the multi-plate cores vibrate but often these
can be silenced by sticking the plates together with varnish etc.
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Andrew Gabriel
and this is normally done by using a self-resetting thermal trip.
But when loaded below that, they run forever, and only get slightly
warm. Lots of people leave chargers permanently plugged in them
without any problem.
The Natural Philosopher
>> On 25/03/2016 16:32, Tim Watts wrote:
>>
>>> To the OP - they have to have an isolating transformer in to meet
>>> regulations for bathroom installation so they will all hum.
>>
>> Why should a good quality transformer hum? You can get a hum from poor
>> quality transformers when the multi-plate cores vibrate but often these
>> can be silenced by sticking the plates together with varnish etc.
>
>
>
even rock solid stuff hums a bit, because the iron itself changes
dimension slightly.
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>>> quality transformers when the multi-plate cores vibrate but often these
>>> can be silenced by sticking the plates together with varnish etc.
>>
>> I flooded ours with superglue. That shut it up.
>>
>>
> even rock solid stuff hums a bit, because the iron itself changes
> dimension slightly.
small. It may be the plates in a poor quality transformer vibrating or
the sound may get amplified by the housing vibrating. I expect that a
good dose of superglue would put paid to that, whichever it is.
Of course, a large transformer is bound to hum, but it can't be beyond
the wit of man to build a shaver socket that's near silent.
Dave Plowman (News)
They're not actually that tiny. You'll find much smaller ones in many
electronic devices. They wouldn't, for example, fit in a average wall
wart.
> that effect should be rather
> small. It may be the plates in a poor quality transformer vibrating or
> the sound may get amplified by the housing vibrating. I expect that a
> good dose of superglue would put paid to that, whichever it is.
> Of course, a large transformer is bound to hum, but it can't be beyond
> the wit of man to build a shaver socket that's near silent.
hum be noticeable?
But in general, toroidal transformers are as near silent as any. But cost
more.
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To e-mail, change noise into sound.
Tim Watts
am I thinking of the windings?
Dave Plowman (News)
> Weren't old transformer cores covered in shellac for the same reason? Or
> am I thinking of the windings?
Keep an eye on those old Top of the Pops. Where the Johnny Pearson
orchestra provided the backing. The bass amp on that had a G clamp on the
mains transformer to stop it buzzing. The muso loved the sound of his amp
and didn't want it touched.
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charles
> board.
I remember car "engine mounts".