Black and Decker jigsaw with Superlok feature.
David Paste
TIA
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"David Paste" <paste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Anyone have any experience with this type of blade fitting?
>
> TIA
Had a lot of experience with my last B&D jigsaw, and it was a total piece of
shite. The blade was held by a spring lock that was released by pulling up
on a black plastic bit at the front. That bit seemed to work alright. It was
just the rest of it. Since been replaced by a Bosch. Far superior machine
...
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NT
> "David Paste" <pasteda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
if you're buying, be sure to get a tool with a blade guide on the sole
plate. Cheaper ones that dont restrain the blade at the sole plate are
pretty dreadful.
NT
Jules Richardson
> Had a lot of experience with my last B&D jigsaw, and it was a total
> piece of shite. The blade was held by a spring lock that was released by
> pulling up on a black plastic bit at the front. That bit seemed to work
> alright. It was just the rest of it.
Heh, that matches my experience 100%... blade lock good (whether they
called it Superlok or not, I don't know) but rest of tool total shit.
One oddity: blades for different applications are different depths front-
back. Fair enough. But why don't they make the back edge of the blade a
constant offset from the part which the jigsaw grips, so I don't have to
adjust the little wheel on the shoe every time I change blade type? I
never have understood that (and I don't think it's something limited to
B&D, so there must be a good reason for it)
cheers
Jules
David Paste
<jules.richardsonnews...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Heh, that matches my experience 100%... blade lock good (whether they
> called it Superlok or not, I don't know) but rest of tool total shit.
>
> One oddity: blades for different applications are different depths front-
> back. Fair enough. But why don't they make the back edge of the blade a
> constant offset from the part which the jigsaw grips, so I don't have to
> adjust the little wheel on the shoe every time I change blade type? I
> never have understood that (and I don't think it's something limited to
> B&D, so there must be a good reason for it)
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
Well thanks to all for your replies. I acquired the jigsaw from a
friend. The tool itself seems OK - no undue vibration, a lot quieter
than my previous ancient (1970s I think) B&D jigsaw, but the Superlok
feature is an absolute disaster. It just won't hold a blade. I took it
to a B&D service centre, they looked at it, tested it, tell me it's OK
but the bloody thing just wont hold a blade through a cut! Clearly
it's an operator problem, but sod it, it's going to be replaced.
Probably with a Bosch, unless anyone has any other suggestions.
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"David Paste" <paste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Silly question I'm sure, but you are using blades with the right holder
profile ? I've seen several different shape schemes for different
manufacturers, and in the past, I've found that some of the 'universals'
that you can buy in the sheds, are not a terribly good fit. FWIW, although
the B&D machine that I had (quite an expensive variable speed job with
scroller head) was an absolute piece of shit in just about every respect,
one of the few things that I *can* say was alright about it, was the quick
release blade retaining system. I don't know about yours not holding a
blade, mine wouldn't hold a bloody line in cardboard, let alone any other
material. The Bosch that it has been recently replaced with, is an absolute
dream to use. Last weekend, I was fitting some skirting to my conservatory.
I couldn't be fagged to get the compound mitre saw out to cut the 62 deg
angles for going around the octagon shaped bit, so I just set the angle on
the Bosch, drew a straight line across the back of the board, and cut. Every
one was absolutely dead straight down the line, and had the proper angle on
it. Compared to the B&D, this machine has so far been an absolute pleasure
to use on every job I've employed it on ... d;~}
Arfa
Jules Richardson
> Well thanks to all for your replies. I acquired the jigsaw from a
> friend. The tool itself seems OK - no undue vibration, a lot quieter
> than my previous ancient (1970s I think) B&D jigsaw, but the Superlok
> feature is an absolute disaster. It just won't hold a blade.
I found early on that the mechanism on mine was a little goofy - push the
handle down, and it'd sometimes feel like it had reached the end of its
travel when it was actually only partway; at that point I could still
slot a blade in, and it'd grip up until I used the saw.
Caught me out a couple of times, until I learned to shove the handle down
with more force before slotting the blade in.
> it's going to be replaced. Probably
> with a Bosch, unless anyone has any other suggestions.
All I can say is make sure you get something with the most robust bevel
mechanism that you can get. My old B&D was great, but the cheap
replacement is shite for that sole reason; it'd be OK otherwise (good
amounts of power, fits nicely in the hand, trigger is smooth etc.) for
the kind of duties I need (I've got other types of saw for most jobs).
cheers
Jules
David Paste
> Silly question I'm sure, but you are using blades with the right holder
> profile?
Silly questions are better than silly mistakes! This was one of the
first things I checked as I couldn't quite understand how the clamping
mechanism could exert enough force on the blade to keep it put. After
consulting with the owners manual, and the B&D internet support pages,
I decided that the clamping mechanism MUST be full of oil or
something, so perhaps this needed to be cleaned. Which I duly did.
http://i21.ebayimg.com/08/i/000/cf/92/66f0_1.JPG
is a photo of the beast (but mine has an orange plastic lever).
Needless to say, the effort was in vain.
> I've seen several different shape schemes for different
> manufacturers, and in the past, I've found that some of the 'universals'
> that you can buy in the sheds, are not a terribly good fit. FWIW, although
> the B&D machine that I had (quite an expensive variable speed job with
> scroller head) was an absolute piece of shit in just about every respect,
> one of the few things that I *can* say was alright about it, was the quick
> release blade retaining system. I don't know about yours not holding a
> blade, mine wouldn't hold a bloody line in cardboard, let alone any other
> material. The Bosch that it has been recently replaced with, is an absolute
> dream to use. Last weekend, I was fitting some skirting to my conservatory.
> I couldn't be fagged to get the compound mitre saw out to cut the 62 deg
> angles for going around the octagon shaped bit, so I just set the angle on
> the Bosch, drew a straight line across the back of the board, and cut. Every
> one was absolutely dead straight down the line, and had the proper angle on
> it. Compared to the B&D, this machine has so far been an absolute pleasure
> to use on every job I've employed it on ... d;~}
Go on then... what model is it? I was in Pee & Spew this afternoon,
checking out the jigsaws - there was a Bosch model with a quick
release system that operated in a different way to the B&D system and
that seemed to be a very good option - there is a positive catch to
this, not just a wishful thinking clamp. SDS I think.
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"David Paste" <paste...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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It's a PST800 X-Cel, and yes, the blade clamp says SDS on it
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David Paste
<jules.richardsonnews...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Caught me out a couple of times, until I learned to shove the handle down
> with more force before slotting the blade in.
Yeah, I had a good look at the mechanism, took it apart to clean it
up, took it to a service place but to no avail. Ah well.
> All I can say is make sure you get something with the most robust bevel
> mechanism that you can get.
Shall do, thanks. Just out of interest, what other types of saw have
you got, or are they not jigsaws?
David Paste
> It's a PST800 X-Cel, and yes, the blade clamp says SDS on it
That's the one I handled. Good to know it has a pleased owner!
Cheers.
Jules Richardson
>> All I can say is make sure you get something with the most robust bevel
>> mechanism that you can get.
>
> Shall do, thanks. Just out of interest, what other types of saw have you
> got, or are they not jigsaws?
No, circular saw, table saw, miter saw, plus a reciprocating saw that I
can borrow whenever needed (never quite got the tuits together to buy one
myself!). I don't find many times where one of those won't do exactly
what I need - the crappy jigsaw's now used for rough work when it just
happens to be nearest.
cheers
Jules
David Paste
<jules.richardsonnews...@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, circular saw, table saw, miter saw, plus a reciprocating saw that I
> can borrow whenever needed (never quite got the tuits together to buy one
> myself!). I don't find many times where one of those won't do exactly
> what I need - the crappy jigsaw's now used for rough work when it just
> happens to be nearest.
>
> cheers
>
> Jules
Ah, I see. I have to admit, the circular saw is one of the best
investments I've ever made. Knocked a sawboard together for it too.
Brilliant piece of kit.
The Medway Handyman
Makita jigsaw (its a jigsaw Jim, but not as we know it) simply
unbelieveable!
Makita Circular saw - wouldn't buy another.
Reciprocating saw el cheapo
SCMS x 2
Radial Arm Saw.
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Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
David Paste
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> Makita jigsaw (its a jigsaw Jim, but not as we know it) simply
> unbelieveable!
Handled one of those in B&Q too. A beefy piece of kit, but I am not
sure if the cost of it would be appropriate for a DIY type like me.
But then again, buy a quality item and it'll last...
> Makita Circular saw - wouldn't buy another.
Mine's a Bosch. It's good enough for what I do. Good enough as in I am
happy with it's performance, not the 'I accept it's limitations for
the cost of it' type happy.
> SCMS x 2
What be them then?
Trevor Bristol
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