Limewashing walls in cellar.
conke...@yahoo.com
I'm thinking of painting my cellar with limewash to brighten it up - I
have read from this group that it is a good choice as it is breathable,
etc.
What I would like to know before I do it though, what is the finish
like? If I rub my hands or clothes over it, will it leave a powdery
mark like certain other finishes? Or is it (hopefully) a nice
'friendly' finish? If I marked it with anything is is a case of washing
the mark off with soap and water or slopping on another coat of
limewash on the area?
Also, how long would a limewash finish last in an 'average' cellar - is
it a case of repainting every year?
I'd love to use limewash, just to give it a go if nothing else, but I
don't want a finish that is going to be 'messy' even when it's supposed
to be done.
Sorry for my ignorance, I am genuinely interested in using limewash but
know next to nothing about it.
Thanks in advance,
Roger Melly
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ben
Where did you get the Limewash from?
Can't get it where I am tried half a dozen places.
conke...@yahoo.com
some water untill it's a single cream consistency as suggested by a
poster in previous postings.
Perhaps you could try a mail order place? Other than that, I don't
know. Sorry.
If I find anywhere, I'll post details though.
Cheers.
bi...@biffvernon.freeserve.co.uk
Anna Kettle
>I'm thinking of painting my cellar with limewash to brighten it up - I
>have read from this group that it is a good choice as it is breathable,
>etc.
>
>What I would like to know before I do it though, what is the finish
>like? If I rub my hands or clothes over it, will it leave a powdery
>mark like certain other finishes?
Its not dusty if it is put on right. Damp down the surface with a
water spray before you begin, so that most of the suction is killed.
You are trying to avoid the wall sucking all of the water out of the
limewash before it gets a chance to set
>Or is it (hopefully) a nice
>'friendly' finish? If I marked it with anything is is a case of washing
>the mark off with soap and water or slopping on another coat of
>limewash on the area?
Limewash is 'sort of' washable. You wouldn't want to scrub it too
hard, but you can run a damp cloth over it. Its easy enough to put on
another coat of limewash but the edge between old and new will always
be visible so either relimewash the complete wall or decide that
character is a good thing
>Also, how long would a limewash finish last in an 'average' cellar - is
>it a case of repainting every year?
Physical damage will mean that the bit by the stairs needs repainting
first and how often depends how fussy you are. Five years? Longer?
Limewash is fragile when first painted on so it would be a good
strategy to choose a limewashing time when you will not want to use
the cellar much for a couple of months
To set properly, limewash needs a good airflow which can be tricky in
a cellar. Leave the cellar door open and if you can put a fan in the
cellar that will help. Limewash also needs a little moisture around
which might not be a problem in a cellar but keep an eye on it and
lightly respray if necessary.
You will probably need about four THIN coats of limewash, with a gap
of maybe 48 hours between them
Have fun
Anna
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Mary Fisher
"Anna Kettle" <An...@kettlenet.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Its not dusty if it is put on right. Damp down the surface with a
> water spray before you begin, so that most of the suction is killed.
> You are trying to avoid the wall sucking all of the water out of the
> limewash before it gets a chance to set
>
Ah! My mother always wiped the walls with a wet mop before she whitewashed
the walls, she didn't know why, just said it was what you had to do. A
puzzle explained after many decades!
>
> Limewash is 'sort of' washable. You wouldn't want to scrub it too
> hard, but you can run a damp cloth over it. Its easy enough to put on
> another coat of limewash but the edge between old and new will always
> be visible so either relimewash the complete wall or decide that
> character is a good thing
Yes, a palimpsest of your life!
We have all sorts of legacies of children and grandchildren in our house -
accidental and deliberate marks. Over the years they've become rather
special and remind us of The TimeWhen.
When I was a child neighbours had nasty black marks on the wall by their
door, low down. It was where their dog rubbed past on its way in. I used to
think that was awful, they wouldn't clean it off, it was the only thing they
had left of their beloved pet who'd been killed accidentally. I'm not
suggesting that's a universally good thing but that people are different in
what they want to clean off/cover up.
>
Thanks, Anna, for memories ...
Mary
Rob Morley
An...@kettlenet.co.uk says...
<snip>
> To set properly, limewash needs a good airflow which can be tricky in
> a cellar. Leave the cellar door open and if you can put a fan in the
> cellar that will help. Limewash also needs a little moisture around
>
CO2 ? Just a thought ...
conke...@yahoo.com
Hello Anna, I was hoping you'd reply. It was your posts I had read
previously, I just had some more questions.
> Its not dusty if it is put on right. Damp down the surface with a
> water spray before you begin, so that most of the suction is killed.
> You are trying to avoid the wall sucking all of the water out of the
> limewash before it gets a chance to set
So it's similar to painting PVA on walls when using regular paint?
Would a squirt of PVA be recommended in the limewash then, or would it
be a bit unnecessary?
> Limewash is 'sort of' washable ... decide that character is a good thing
Yeah, that last bit sounds like a winner to me!
> Limewash is fragile when first painted on so it would be a good
> strategy to choose a limewashing time when you will not want to use
> the cellar much for a couple of months
Ah, well it's in pretty much constant use, the main room of the cellar
is the home office but having said that, I only want to paint the
'corridor' bit and stair wall of the cellar. After 3 or four days of
setting, will the limewash be less likely to rub off on clothes? I
could handle being carefull for a few days!
> To set properly, limewash needs a good airflow which can be tricky in
> a cellar.
This won't be a problem, I'll open the window and door, there's a good
flow that way, plus the fan.
So as long as I manage to put the wash on correctly, the finish
shouldn't leave powdery white marks on my hands/clothes when it's all
done then?
Thank you for your help Anna!
conke...@yahoo.com
What a great word!
big...@meeow.co.uk
> > Limewash is 'sort of' washable ... decide that character is a good thing
> > Limewash is fragile when first painted on so it would be
> Ah, well it's in pretty much constant use, the main room
If its for regular habitation use Id suggest distemper rather than
limewash. Distemper is a fair substitute for emulsion, and can be cold
washed.
NT
conke...@yahoo.com
OK, I'll have a look at that too even though it sounds like a dogs
disease.
Cheers.
Anna Kettle
>> Hi Roger
>
>Hello Anna, I was hoping you'd reply. It was your posts I had read
>previously, I just had some more questions.
>
>> Its not dusty if it is put on right. Damp down the surface with a
>> water spray before you begin, so that most of the suction is killed.
>> You are trying to avoid the wall sucking all of the water out of the
>> limewash before it gets a chance to set
>
>So it's similar to painting PVA on walls when using regular paint?
>Would a squirt of PVA be recommended in the limewash then, or would it
>be a bit unnecessary?
In my earlier reply I assumed the wall is breathable (brick or lime
plaster) in which case don't PVA it cos PVA will stop it being
breathable. If the wall is not breathable (emulsion paint or cement
render) then start with a coat of dulute PVA, allow to dry, then
limewash as before
>> Limewash is fragile when first painted on so it would be a good
>> strategy to choose a limewashing time when you will not want to use
>> the cellar much for a couple of months
>
>Ah, well it's in pretty much constant use, the main room of the cellar
>is the home office but having said that, I only want to paint the
>'corridor' bit and stair wall of the cellar. After 3 or four days of
>setting, will the limewash be less likely to rub off on clothes? I
>could handle being carefull for a few days!
Needs must! It won't rub off once it is set (maybe two days) but it
will be easily bashable for a month or so
Anna Kettle
Just clarifying here ... NT is talking about oil based distemper which
would be fine. Water based distemper is very dusty and only suitable
for ceilings and suchlike
conke...@yahoo.com
Yeah it is. I'll not bother putting the PVA in then!
> It won't rub off once it is set (maybe two days) but it will be easily bashable
> for a month or so
Well that sounds grand as a trout. I can be careful not to bash for a
while, but two days so it doesn't mark clothes is good news!
Thanks for your help Anna (and others!).
Cheers.
conke...@yahoo.com
Noted and understood captain. What about the poorly dogs though?
big...@meeow.co.uk
> On 18 Jul 2005 06:59:15 -0700, big...@meeow.co.uk wrote:
> >If its for regular habitation use Id suggest distemper rather than
> >limewash. Distemper is a fair substitute for emulsion, and can be cold
> >washed.
> Just clarifying here ... NT is talking about oil based distemper which
> would be fine. Water based distemper is very dusty and only suitable
> for ceilings and suchlike
I was thinking of lanolised water paint, which is water and fat based.
>From experience I've found it fine, not dusty. The main differences
compared to emulsion are:
chalk matt finish
breathable
hot water removes it from the wall
very cheap
can make it yourself if you want.
a bit more care needed when painting to avoid streaks and drips.
I found it to be fine durability wise, and ok for cleanability as long
as you dont use hot water.
NT
Mary Fisher
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>
> I was thinking of lanolised water paint, which is water and fat based.
>>From experience I've found it fine, not dusty. The main differences
> compared to emulsion are:
>
> chalk matt finish
> breathable
> hot water removes it from the wall
> very cheap
> can make it yourself if you want.
> a bit more care needed when painting to avoid streaks and drips.
>
> I found it to be fine durability wise, and ok for cleanability as long
> as you dont use hot water.
At breakfast I was looking at Hartley's Food in Britain and found how to
make two kindsof limewsh AND how to construct an outdoor privy in great
detail.
Didn't tell me what I wanted to know about though!
Mary
>
>
> NT
>
conke...@yahoo.com
What did you want to know about? Frankly, if limewash and privvies
aren't what you wanted to know about, well...
;-)
conke...@yahoo.com
What did you want to know about? Frankly, if limewash and privvies
conke...@yahoo.com
Cheers, I'll have a look at that too.
conke...@yahoo.com
Mary Fisher
<conke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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We've almost finished building the bread oven and I wondered what she had to
say about that.
Not as much as limewash and privvies :-(
Luckily I already have a book by people who really DO know their stuff, I
don't think there could be any more to know :-)
Mary
>
Mary Fisher
<conke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I mentioned those becaue people have asked about them recently on this
group.
>
conke...@yahoo.com
> had to say about that.
"Can I have a loaf?" Maybe?
Sorry for the double postings earlier, something somewhere went wrong.
Probably usenet deity punishment for posting through google.
Mary Fisher
<conke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> We've almost finished building the bread oven and I wondered what she
>> had to say about that.
>
> "Can I have a loaf?" Maybe?
We'll be having a party. Everyone's welcome.
>
> Sorry for the double postings earlier, something somewhere went wrong.
I don't THINK I said anything - thought it though ...
> Probably usenet deity punishment for posting through google.
Yes. Probably.
Mary
>
conke...@yahoo.com
Well in that case, can I have a loaf of that sour-dough stuff?
Mmmm, sour-dough stuff *dribbles*
Mary Fisher
<conke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> We'll be having a party. Everyone's welcome.
>
> Well in that case, can I have a loaf of that sour-dough stuff?
>
> Mmmm, sour-dough stuff *dribbles*
Of couse. I've used sour dough more than conventional for years.
Nice to know there's someone else with refined tastebuds round here :-)
Mary
>
big...@meeow.co.uk
> Nice to know there's someone else with refined tastebuds round here :-)
Refined taste buds like unrefined flour best. And ferrets are
non-ferrous.
NT
conke...@yahoo.com
I always wondered why they wouldn't stick to the fridge.