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Mike Clarke
Jun 6, 2013, 5:58:10 AM6/6/13
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Does anyone have any experience of ovens with pyrolytic cleaning. Do they
really manage to clean themselves and does the 500C cleaning cycle lead to
any long term reliability problems?
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Mike Clarke
fred
Jun 6, 2013, 6:01:01 AM6/6/13
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So it would appear there are difference between different manufacturers.
Tim Watts
Jun 6, 2013, 6:18:14 AM6/6/13
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We have a gas over with self cleaning coatings decades ago and the deal was
30 mins at full heat (250C or so). Seemed to work pretty well.
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Jon Connell
Jun 6, 2013, 6:18:54 AM6/6/13
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Neff (sorry, Naff) blew up and was "beyond economic repair". Based on
the experience of using a regular oven, the new kitchen in our new house
has a pyrolytic Miele.
Pyrolytic ovens are very effective at burning off all the fat that gets
splattered on the roof of the oven. They also do a decent job at
cleaning the glass on the door, though do leave a rim of burned on gunk
around the seal where the heat doesn't get to as effectively. A quick
spray of your nasty chemicals sorts that.
What they do not help with is the racks and trays that I think are
usually the skankiest things in an oven, so you need to remember to
chuck them in the dishwasher regularly. Alternatively, you can place
them in one of those chemical bags you can buy in supermarkets.
So your datapoint from me is that I value the pyrolytic function enough
to choose one over a regular oven, but my Neff didn't last very long (8
years). Miele appliances are generally very reliable though, so here's
hoping this will last the 20 years I'd expect from Miele.
Jon
Andrew Gabriel
Jun 6, 2013, 6:17:50 AM6/6/13
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In article <1370518899...@milibyte.co.uk>,
They work fine at 240C - I've never needed to clean the stay-clean
pyrolytic liners in mine. Can generate some smoke during the cleaning
process though, and that happens even when running the oven hot.
Doesn't help for things like the door glass, the light, etc.
Never tried the very high temperature ones where the door gets locked
shut.
In reference to the other post, the wiring in Smeg ovens is done using
connectors which burn out before 10 years with the heater current.
Seen (and repaired) this a number of times. I mentioned this to a repair
chap once and he said it's very common, and we've been lucky to get
anywhere near 10 years out of them. It's only a problem with the
products with electric heating elements - no problems with a gas hob.
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pyrolytic liners in mine. Can generate some smoke during the cleaning
process though, and that happens even when running the oven hot.
Doesn't help for things like the door glass, the light, etc.
Never tried the very high temperature ones where the door gets locked
shut.
In reference to the other post, the wiring in Smeg ovens is done using
connectors which burn out before 10 years with the heater current.
Seen (and repaired) this a number of times. I mentioned this to a repair
chap once and he said it's very common, and we've been lucky to get
anywhere near 10 years out of them. It's only a problem with the
products with electric heating elements - no problems with a gas hob.
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Andrew Gabriel
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polygonum
Jun 6, 2013, 6:49:13 AM6/6/13
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On 06/06/2013 11:18, Jon Connell wrote:
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> What they do not help with is the racks and trays that I think are
> usually the skankiest things in an oven, so you need to remember to
> chuck them in the dishwasher regularly. Alternatively, you can place
> them in one of those chemical bags you can buy in supermarkets.
Have found the Lidl "stainless steel" scourers work very well on the
>
> What they do not help with is the racks and trays that I think are
> usually the skankiest things in an oven, so you need to remember to
> chuck them in the dishwasher regularly. Alternatively, you can place
> them in one of those chemical bags you can buy in supermarkets.
rack components. Of course, if very bad, oven cleaner-type products help
start the cleaning but often scourer, hot water and washing up liquid is
enough.
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Rod
Lee
Jun 6, 2013, 7:17:15 AM6/6/13
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On 06/06/2013 10:58, Mike Clarke wrote:
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surprisingly effective.
Also the only practical way of cleaning the top of the oven, above the
grill element.
Couple of notes though, on this oven the rails have to be removed before
cleaning and it highly recommends that the inner door glass is clean
before you start the cleaning cycle.
You also need to be extra careful about not scratching the inner glass
when cleaning it or closing the door.
On this oven there is a narrow strip of about 1cm around the door seal
which doesn't get hot enough to self clean - wouldn't be a problem but
they are adamant that you must not clean the door seal itself. Catch-22?
Otherwise, brilliant. Though every time I run a cleaning cycle I am
always suspicious that the inner glass may crack due to the
temperature... Easily (user) replaceable though, if it does.
Lee
Mike Clarke
Jun 6, 2013, 9:58:49 AM6/6/13
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Tim Watts wrote:
> 500C or 500F?
500C
> We have a gas over with self cleaning coatings decades ago and the deal
> was 30 mins at full heat (250C or so). Seemed to work pretty well.
Sounds similar to our existing catalytic linings. The handbook recommends
periodically heating it up to maximum (275C) for 30 minutes, though the
linings seem to keep clean with just normal use.
It appears that you have to remove the shelves before starting the cleaning
cycle with a pyrolytic oven so I'm wondering if they offer any advantage
over catalytics - the floor of our oven is the only bit that that would need
wiping compared to a pyrolytic.
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Mike Clarke
> 500C or 500F?
500C
> We have a gas over with self cleaning coatings decades ago and the deal
> was 30 mins at full heat (250C or so). Seemed to work pretty well.
periodically heating it up to maximum (275C) for 30 minutes, though the
linings seem to keep clean with just normal use.
It appears that you have to remove the shelves before starting the cleaning
cycle with a pyrolytic oven so I'm wondering if they offer any advantage
over catalytics - the floor of our oven is the only bit that that would need
wiping compared to a pyrolytic.
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Mike Clarke
Jon Connell
Jun 6, 2013, 10:47:54 AM6/6/13
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On 06/06/2013 14:58, Mike Clarke wrote:
> It appears that you have to remove the shelves before starting the cleaning
> cycle with a pyrolytic oven so I'm wondering if they offer any advantage
> over catalytics - the floor of our oven is the only bit that that would need
> wiping compared to a pyrolytic.
That depends upon whether you roast fatty food openly in the oven. The
> It appears that you have to remove the shelves before starting the cleaning
> cycle with a pyrolytic oven so I'm wondering if they offer any advantage
> over catalytics - the floor of our oven is the only bit that that would need
> wiping compared to a pyrolytic.
roof of the oven can get covered in fat deposits that smoke like crazy.
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