How to loosen a torx head screw on washing machine drum

[ss]

I need to take off the pulley at the back of the drum on a washing
machine, it is held on by one of these torx head things but it aint
shifting.
I tried wedging the pulley to stop it turning and applied as much
pressure as I could without slipping but to no avail. I dont think
thumping it with a hammer will do the bearings much good so not resorted
to that yet.
I suspect it may have thread lock applied to it.

Any ideas?

[Andrew Mawson]

"ss" wrote in message news:BjkNq.207083$WC5....@newsfe09.ams2...

Apply heat - it will break down the threadlock bond. If you can get at it
safely use a blowlamp. If not get the end of a 1/2" bar red hot and press it
against the bolt to heat it.

AWEM

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <BjkNq.207083$WC5....@newsfe09.ams2>,

Impact driver?

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[ss]

On 05/01/2012 17:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article<BjkNq.207083$WC5....@newsfe09.ams2>,
> ss<wee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I need to take off the pulley at the back of the drum on a washing
>> machine, it is held on by one of these torx head things but it aint
>> shifting.
>> I tried wedging the pulley to stop it turning and applied as much
>> pressure as I could without slipping but to no avail. I dont think
>> thumping it with a hammer will do the bearings much good so not resorted
>> to that yet.
>> I suspect it may have thread lock applied to it.
>
>> Any ideas?
>
> Impact driver?
>

I will probably try at some stage but I am reluctant to do this as it
may damage the drum bearings plus the drum is suspended so the impact is
likely to be absorbed and lessen the effect.

[Gazz]

>>> I need to take off the pulley at the back of the drum on a washing
>>> machine, it is held on by one of these torx head things but it aint
>>> shifting.
>>> I tried wedging the pulley to stop it turning and applied as much
>>> pressure as I could without slipping but to no avail. I dont think
>>> thumping it with a hammer will do the bearings much good so not resorted
>>> to that yet.
>>> I suspect it may have thread lock applied to it.
>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Impact driver?
>>
> I will probably try at some stage but I am reluctant to do this as it may
> damage the drum bearings plus the drum is suspended so the impact is
> likely to be absorbed and lessen the effect.

Do you have the transit bolts handy??? if not find some bolts that fit and
wind them in to lock the suspension,
if your worried about the bearings can you put some bits of wood under the
pulley so the ends rest on the frame to lessen the shock as you use an
impact driver to get the thread locked torx bolt loose (the proper type of
impact driver that you belt with a hammer, not an electric one used for
driving screws into hard stuff)

[ss]

Just found out my impact driver has bigger hex adaptor than my torx bit,
so could try just impacting the torx bit in the screw head.

[Bill]

In message <BjkNq.207083$WC5....@newsfe09.ams2>, ss
<wee...@hotmail.com> writes

Not a left handed thread by any chance?

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Bill

[ss]

On 05/01/2012 18:51, Bill wrote:
> Not a left handed thread by any chance?

I have tried both ways but to be honest not sure I did email the maker
of the machine but who knows if they will reply.

[thirty-six]

On Jan 5, 6:19 pm, ss <weel...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/01/2012 17:26, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:> In article<BjkNq.207083$WC5.23...@newsfe09.ams2>,
> >     ss<weel...@hotmail.com>  wrote:

> >> I need to take off the pulley at the back of the drum on a washing
> >> machine, it is held on by one of these torx head things but it aint
> >> shifting.
> >> I tried wedging the pulley to stop it turning and applied as much
> >> pressure as I could without slipping but to no avail. I dont think
> >> thumping it with a hammer will do the bearings much good so not resorted
> >> to that yet.
> >> I suspect it may have thread lock applied to it.
>
> >> Any ideas?
>
> > Impact driver?
>
> I will probably try at some stage but I am reluctant to do this as it
> may damage the drum bearings plus the drum is suspended so the impact is
> likely to be absorbed and lessen the effect.

If you are worried about damaging the bearings, I suspect you don't
need to remove the pulley. You are also more likley to bend the
pulley by using a sledge hammer than you are likely to damage the
bearings (if they have been specified correctly). If it needs
removing you should use a long bar, sucha sis normal with a 3/8 socket
set. Hold the pulley by gripping the drive belt and jerk the bolt as
necessary. If it wont budge, check to see if is left-handed. Once
that is sorted out, try again in the correct direction and get someone
else to strike the bit with a hammer while you are applying relasing
torque. If it still wont go, get some PlusGas on it and have a couple
of beers before returning. It'll be unlucky if it releases after the
first beer, but it's best to get a case in, in case your luck holds up.

[ss]

This is the offending screw.....

[IMG]http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h194/scudo/003.jpg[/IMG]

[Part Timer]

My instinct was to say don't worry about the bearings. On ours (2001 AEG
I stripped in late 2007) it was obvious that the bearings (and seal)
were shot from the rusty water leaving the back of the tub. IIRC I split
the back half of the tub from the front by undoing the front-facing
screws around the joint, then had the s/steel inner drum, back half of
plastic tub and the pulley to work on with it standing upright on some
wood to protect the inner drum. Pulley bolt was OK, hammered out the
shaft, front and rear bearings and seal at the front. Did some freezing
and heating of the new ones to make them fit, then reassembled.

[Bob Minchin]

I presume the pulley is plastic? if so then warming the screw only with
a red hot rod will release the threadlock - it only needs to get to
150/200 centigrade
Almost certain the be a standard RH thread as the drum will turn both
ways during operation so no benefit to use a LH thread.

Bob

[ss]

Used a heat gun and a few more bangs with a hammer and off it came.

Thanks to all for advice.

[Bob Eager]

That may be so, but when I did the bearings in out old Hotpoint a few
years ago, it *was* - for some reason - a LH thread anyway!

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[thirty-six]

It may have been a Hotpoint I came across that had a left-hand thread,
which was odd because it also had a locktab.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <_QlNq.106025$Rz.7...@newsfe29.ams2>,

ss <wee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Impact driver?
> >
> I will probably try at some stage but I am reluctant to do this as it
> may damage the drum bearings plus the drum is suspended so the impact is
> likely to be absorbed and lessen the effect.

A proper impact driver 'kicks' in the undo direction of the screw, so
won't put any load on the bearings. Nor should it worry the suspension
unduly.

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[Alan Braggins]

In article <524ce95...@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>In article <_QlNq.106025$Rz.7...@newsfe29.ams2>,
> ss <wee...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Impact driver?
>> >
>> I will probably try at some stage but I am reluctant to do this as it
>> may damage the drum bearings plus the drum is suspended so the impact is
>> likely to be absorbed and lessen the effect.
>
>A proper impact driver 'kicks' in the undo direction of the screw, so
>won't put any load on the bearings. Nor should it worry the suspension
>unduly.

Depends what sort of impact driver you are talking about.
A manual impact driver is also designed for getting stubborn screws
started undone, but will transfer some of the hammer blow "into" the
screw (and hence the bearings).
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Impact_driver

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <slrnjgd8t...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,

Alan Braggins <ar...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> >A proper impact driver 'kicks' in the undo direction of the screw, so
> >won't put any load on the bearings. Nor should it worry the suspension
> >unduly.

> Depends what sort of impact driver you are talking about.
> A manual impact driver is also designed for getting stubborn screws
> started undone, but will transfer some of the hammer blow "into" the
> screw (and hence the bearings).

Yes. I sort of assumed these had gone out of fashion now.

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[Scion]

Bob Minchin spake thus:

The drum might turn both ways during washing but don't they only go one
way (clockwise?) when spinning?

[Tim Lamb]

In message <524d3fc...@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)"
<da...@davenoise.co.uk> writes

>In article <slrnjgd8t...@chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Alan Braggins <ar...@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> >A proper impact driver 'kicks' in the undo direction of the screw, so
>> >won't put any load on the bearings. Nor should it worry the suspension
>> >unduly.
>
>> Depends what sort of impact driver you are talking about.
>> A manual impact driver is also designed for getting stubborn screws
>> started undone, but will transfer some of the hammer blow "into" the
>> screw (and hence the bearings).
>
>Yes. I sort of assumed these had gone out of fashion now.

Might be worth rotating the drum slightly between blows to minimise race
damage (brenelling?)

regards
>

--
Tim Lamb

[ss]

Just for interest, I got a reply from candy although I have since solved
the problem, regarding how to undo the screw. They wont give tech advice
and I have to call out an engineer. Yeah right!

[thirty-six]

It's probably because they provide the information with a new bearing
and associate parts when you buy from them.

[skantha...@gmail.com]

Good idea rather than drilling.

[Jeff Layman]

On 07/05/17 08:13, skantha...@gmail.com wrote:
> Good idea rather than drilling.

Another old message popping up out of nowhere (from Jan 2012). In case
anyone's interested, you can find the original post here:
<http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3CLKOdnS-MJOQYSJjSnZ2dnUVZ8sSdnZ2d%40bt.com%3E>

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Jeff

[alan_m]

On 07/05/2017 08:13, skantha...@gmail.com wrote:
> Good idea rather than drilling.
>

Tap the end of the screw/torx driver with a hammer to shock it before
attempting to turn it.

Use a torx bit in a hammer drill/driver - to do the same as above.

Use a socket set with the torx bit fitted to a small socket - perhaps a
1/4 inch socket set. The socket ratchet handle will give you more leverage.

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Yes something very odd going on with the archiving system somewhere,
obviously.
Brian

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[skantha...@gmail.com]

Me decided to weld a rod and turn anti clock wise or clock wise .

[skantha...@gmail.com]

2 T40 snapped, one haven't have the receipt not able to refund. Didn't tried local shop. Halfords said life garundee is it right spelling? Are genuine refunded. Bought a vodka 1/2 bottle Sainsbury brand forgot the double Decker the cashier reminded but it's kept for the cashier. Etc. I put it somewhere forgotten . But initially bought it for tool seller said don't want it. Etc

[skantha...@gmail.com]

Yesterday when cutting the lamb neck. I thought about the magpie the one I know , which when taking any food left out, it's make its sound. So I know. But today one took with make any sound you think is the same one. Still one on sticked glass window.. none came yet.

[damdu...@yahoo.co.uk]

On Sun, 7 May 2017 03:58:15 -0700 (PDT), skantha...@gmail.com
wrote:

>2 T40 snapped, one haven't have the receipt not able to refund. Didn't tried local shop. Halfords said life garundee is it right spelling? Are genuine refunded. Bought a vodka 1/2 bottle Sainsbury brand forgot the double Decker the cashier reminded but it's kept for the cashier. Etc. I put it somewhere forgotten . But initially bought it for tool seller said don't want it. Etc

The washing machine may not have a screw loose , the poster looks as
if they may have.

G.Harman

[tabb...@gmail.com]

yet they're the only one to mention the ultimate solution

> Me decided to weld a rod and turn anti clock wise or clock wise .

NT

[The Natural Philosopher]

On 07/05/17 12:04, skantha...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yesterday when cutting the lamb neck. I thought about the magpie the one I know , which when taking any food left out, it's make its sound. So I know. But today one took with make any sound you think is the same one. Still one on sticked glass window.. none came yet.
>

Won't pass the Turing test.

Recode indicated.

*plonk*


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puts mah heel on um jess the same if'n I catches him around mah chillun".

[Harry Bloomfield]

The Natural Philosopher pretended :

> Won't pass the Turing test.
>
> Recode indicated.
>
> *plonk*

A quick erase, reprogram and reboot might fix it. A brain swap with the
bird might be as useful.