OT - Daft word being painted on vans.
John
Examples spotted today:
Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
Transport Solutions = Van Hire
Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
Office Solutions = Furniture
Man at B&Q
A bit like "logistics" appearing on delivery vans a few years ago.
MBQ
John
<A.C...@DENTURESsussex.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:hjv0o6$h2k$1...@south.jnrs.ja.net...
> Thus spake John (Who90...@ntlworld.com) unto the assembled multitudes:
>
> I don't think it's used so much in company names; it seems to be used more
> to
> summarise the company's type of business.
>
> How about (hypothetically):
>
> Washroom Solutions Solutions - manufacturers of cleaning fluids for
> toilets
> :-)
>
> --
> Andy Clews
> University of Sussex
> *** Remove DENTURES if replying by email ***
Must go and get my haircut somewhere else - My Barber's only has Stuff
magazine and The Sun.
Bruce
Not only did "logistics" appear on vans, but delivery company names
were actually changed to include it.
I recall "EXEL Logistics" back in the late 1980s, and nobody knew what
on earth it meant. There was a subtle clue in the fact that the
company owned vans that were used to deliver things. ;-)
Jethro
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:10:55 -0800 (PST), "Man at B&Q"
>
but on a real note, "logistics" covers a whole lot more than
"transport" ... logistics will include warehouse location (and
design), analysing supply/demand, stock retention ...
Man at B&Q
Of course, but none of that was new to most of these companies.
MBQ
Bruce
So why not say that, rather than use a silly buzzword that no-one
understands?
Invisible Man
even their employees don't understand.
terry
Answer: Dissolving into laughter!
Tinkerer
"John" <Who90...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:9wC8n.144545$gm2....@newsfe18.ams2...
Here is my two penn'orth. It drives me mad on the very frequent occasions
when I see something marked as "New and Improved". That is a physical
impossibility. To be New it cannot have existed previously but to be
improved it must have existed previously. Doh!
--
Tinkerer
John J Armstrong
<invi...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>Don't be ridiculous. Companies have to use buzzwords and acronyms that
>even their employees don't understand.
Talking of this, could sks please explain the difference between
"feedback" and "360 degree feedback"?
I suspect 360 degree is used when the talk just goes round in circles,
but I'm not sure.
John
Bruce
<invi...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
You're absolutely right. I apologise. ;-)
Andy Champ
It's when you get to be rude about your boss, as well as vice versa.
Ideally this should be anonymous :)
Andy
Dave Liquorice
>>> I recall "EXEL Logistics" back in the late 1980s, and nobody knew
what
>>> on earth it meant. There was a subtle clue in the fact that the
>>> company owned vans that were used to deliver things. ;-)
>>
>> but on a real note, "logistics" covers a whole lot more than
>> "transport" ... logistics will include warehouse location (and
>> design), analysing supply/demand, stock retention ...
>
> So why not say that, rather than use a silly buzzword that no-one
> understands?
Logistics isn't a buzzword in my book. It is the word to use when
describing the activities associated with managing and operating all
aspects of a supply chain.
--
Cheers
Dave.
John
"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote in message
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk...
--
Cheers
Dave.
Was used in the Army for many years before the commercial world caught up
(Logistics Corps)
Dave Liquorice
> Here is my two penn'orth. It drives me mad on the very frequent
> occasions when I see something marked as "New and Improved". That is a
> physical impossibility. To be New it cannot have existed previously
> but to be improved it must have existed previously. Doh!
Or the "all new music station" that plays the same music that it was
playing before it became an "all new music station".
And why is everything an "issue" this days not a "problem" or a
"fault"?
"We are sorry that your internet connection has failed there is an
issue with a router. Engineers are attempting to resolve this issue
as soon as possible."
An "issue" is something a person has with some other action or
decision taken by others. Equipment can't have "issues" it can only
fail or develop and fault.
--
Cheers
Dave.
John
"Dave Liquorice" <allsortsn...@howhill.com> wrote in message
news:nyyfbegfubjuvyypb...@srv1.howhill.co.uk...
Pet hates:
"It was surreal" - overused and not understood.
"And also" - use one or the other - not both.
"Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
...............back to "solutions". Any really good examples?
The Medway Handyman
I saw a van with 'Infrastructure Facilities Provider' written on the side -
no 'kin idea what they do.
Spose I could call myself a 'Domestic Dwelling Maintenance Solutions
Enabler'.
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
Bruce
Wrong. The true meaning of logistics is "organisation" and/or
"management". It can apply to almost any aspect of a business, or of
any kind of operation, including military (which was the origin of the
term) to describe the organisation and/or management of resources of
almost any kind, including equipment, materials and people, to achieve
desired goals.
However, the term has been hijacked by the supply chain and given a
narrow usage in relation to the transportation and storage of
supplies.
Frank Erskine
wrote:
>
>Pet hates:
>
>"It was surreal" - overused and not understood.
>
>"And also" - use one or the other - not both.
>
>"Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
>
"For free" rather than "free" or "for nothing".
"Orient" rather than "orientate".
"Acronym" rather than "initialism".
--
Frank Erskine
Pete Verdon
> John J Armstrong wrote:
>> Talking of this, could sks please explain the difference between
>> "feedback" and "360 degree feedback"?
> It's when you get to be rude about your boss, as well as vice versa.
Except it ought really to be 180� feedback in that case, surely?
Pete
Jethro
exactly the point they wanted to convey .....
Bruce
180 degree feedback is when you criticise your boss.
360 degrees is when he/she responds by giving you the sack.
Bruce
I was on a train the other day that "arrived into" Stoke-on-Trent.
The Natural Philosopher
> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company names.
>
> Examples spotted today:
>
> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>
> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>
> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>
> Office Solutions = Furniture
>
>
Ian White
>
>
>I was on a train the other day that "arrived into" Stoke-on-Trent.
>
Probably destinated for Manchester.
Never mind, it'll soon be Feb-u-ary.
--
Ian White
F
> I was on a train the other day that "arrived into" Stoke-on-Trent.
As in 'returning back'...
--
F
Bob Eager
'administrate' (and yes, I'm back, Cyclopean)
--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org
The Medway Handyman
7% solution - Sherlock Holmes
PJ
> John wrote:
>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>> names.
>> Examples spotted today:
>>
>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>
>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>
>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>
>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>
> I saw a van with 'Infrastructure Facilities Provider' written on the side -
> no 'kin idea what they do.
>
> Spose I could call myself a 'Domestic Dwelling Maintenance Solutions
> Enabler'.
>
>
Clot
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:52:28 +0000, Frank Erskine wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:22:05 -0000, "John" <Who90...@ntlworld.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Pet hates:
>>>
>>> "It was surreal" - overused and not understood.
>>>
>>> "And also" - use one or the other - not both.
>>>
>>> "Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
>>>
>> "For free" rather than "free" or "for nothing".
>>
>> "Orient" rather than "orientate".
>>
>> "Acronym" rather than "initialism".
>
> 'administrate' (and yes, I'm back, Cyclopean)
Welcome back and may any post operation pain be soon a memory.
Rod
negative ...
It appears that pretty much everyone says "try and ..." - no-one ever
"tries to ...". (I know, I also slip into it, but I try to avoid doing
so all the time. Or should that be ...?)
--
Rod
Bruce
... or my pet hate, which is "off of". As in:
"We took the tins of paint off of the shelf in Homebase."
John Stumbles
> Private Eye lampooned this idiotic practice for some time.
Someone sent Private Eye "Sericol: printing solutions". Dunno whether the
sender really knew but PE didn't get it, that Sericol sell actual solutions
of printing inks etc and presumably used the term tongue in cheek.
--
John Stumbles
This message has been rot13 encrypted twice for added security
John Rumm
Cue reference to "open all hours" and Arkwright's treacle toffee...
--
Cheers,
John.
/=================================================================\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\=================================================================/
John Rumm
> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> John wrote:
>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>> names. Examples spotted today:
>>>
>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>
>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>
>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>
>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>
>>>
>> 10% solutions, your local smack dealer.
>
> 7% solution - Sherlock Holmes
>
Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in hand...
Bob Eager
Thanks...pain is OK and I slept fine last night despite the poor sod
opposite me (on chemo) throwing up all night. All I had were 2
paracetamol.
geoff
<Who90...@ntlworld.com> writes
--
geoff
Tim Streater
> PJ wrote:
>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> John wrote:
>>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>>> names.
>>>> Examples spotted today:
>>>>
>>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>>
>>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>>
>>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>>
>>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>
>>> I saw a van with 'Infrastructure Facilities Provider' written on the
>>> side - no 'kin idea what they do.
>>>
>>> Spose I could call myself a 'Domestic Dwelling Maintenance Solutions
>>> Enabler'.
>>>
>>>
>> Only if you bought a longer van.
>
> Cue reference to "open all hours" and Arkwright's treacle toffee...
How about "foot pedal" or "2am in the morning" (not to be confused with
2am in the afternoon).
Or "bored of"?
The list is endless.
--
Tim
"That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines
imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted"
Bill of Rights 1689
F
> Or "bored of"?
'Must of'...
--
F
geoff
<news@nowhere.?.invalid> writes
>On 29/01/2010 23:13 Tim Streater wrote:
>
>> Or "bored of"?
>
>'Must of'...
>
It's not must of, though, is it
it's must've as in "must have" and lazy pronunciation
--
geoff
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "John" <Who90...@ntlworld.com>
saying something like:
>Pet hates:
>
>"It was surreal" - overused and not understood.
>
>"And also" - use one or the other - not both.
>
>"Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
"Celebrate our differences", and "various different", get me a bit
stabby.
The Medway Handyman
> On 29/01/2010 23:02, John Rumm wrote:
>> PJ wrote:
>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> John wrote:
>>>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>>>> names.
>>>>> Examples spotted today:
>>>>>
>>>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>>>
>>>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>>>
>>>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>>
>>>> I saw a van with 'Infrastructure Facilities Provider' written on
>>>> the side - no 'kin idea what they do.
>>>>
>>>> Spose I could call myself a 'Domestic Dwelling Maintenance
>>>> Solutions Enabler'.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Only if you bought a longer van.
>>
>> Cue reference to "open all hours" and Arkwright's treacle toffee...
>
> How about "foot pedal" or "2am in the morning" (not to be confused
> with 2am in the afternoon).
>
> Or "bored of"?
>
> The list is endless.
When my youngest daughter was a terrible teen I used to wind up her mates
when they used expresions like "she turned round and said" and "then she
went, so I went". I'd ask why she "turned round" and didn't that make
conversation difficult and where did she go when "she went".
I wasn't appreciated.
Two questions; If a black rapper is greeting a prostitute, would he say "yo
ho" and if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
"well well"?
PeterC
>> Cue reference to "open all hours" and Arkwright's treacle toffee...
>
> How about "foot pedal" or "2am in the morning" (not to be confused with
> 2am in the afternoon).
>
> Or "bored of"?
>
> The list is endless.
"Open all day" on a pub that's open 12:00h - 23:00h
Also '12 am to 12 pm' for 00:00h - 12:00h, or, as for something in a
village hall nearby: "Open from 12 pm to 10 pm", so 22 hours!
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.
PeterC
> if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
> "well well"?
Use of "they" for one person :->
Bruce
Multiculturalism.
John J Armstrong
>When my youngest daughter was a terrible teen I used to wind up her mates
>when they used expresions like "she turned round and said" and "then she
>went, so I went". I'd ask why she "turned round" and didn't that make
>conversation difficult and where did she go when "she went".
>
>I wasn't appreciated.
No, you wouldn't be! The thing now seems to be "I was like...." and
"she was like...."
>
>Two questions; If a black rapper is greeting a prostitute, would he say "yo
>ho" and if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
>"well well"?
Don't know about the black rapper, but many of the younger generation
now say they're "good" when asked how they are, so I suppose they
might also claim to be "well good".
Two more pet hates for the list:
"alot" for "many"
"outside of"
Tim Streater
A current pet hate of mine is the overuse of the word "currently" as
well as obviously the word "obviously".
Frank Erskine
wrote:
"Train station" rather than "railway station".
--
Frank Erskine
Dave Osborne
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:44 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>
> Also '12 am to 12 pm' for 00:00h - 12:00h,
12 a.m. is midnight and 12 p.m. is mid-day in my book (and for most
people, I suspect), so that works for me.
or, as for something in a
> village hall nearby: "Open from 12 pm to 10 pm", so 22 hours!
Which is 10 hours, not 22 hours if you take 12 p.m. as midday. ;-)
Quote from the National Physical Laboratory:
"There are no standards established for the meaning of 12 a.m. and 12
p.m. It is often said that 12 a.m. Monday is midnight on Monday morning
and 12 p.m. is mid-day. This puts all the times beginning with 12 and
ending with a.m. in the same one-hour block, similarly with those ending
with p.m. It can also be argued that by the time you have seen a clock
showing 12:00 at mid-day it is already post meridiem, and similarly at
midnight it is already ante meridiem. Times in the first hour of the day
are sometimes given as, for example, 00:47 a.m., with 00:00 a.m.
corresponding to midnight, but with a time twelve hours later given as
12:47 p.m."
Quote from National Maritime Museum.
"Is noon 12 a.m. or 12 p.m.?
12 noon is neither a.m. nor p.m.
To avoid confusion, the correct designation for 12 o'clock is 12 noon or
12 midnight. Alternatively, the 24-hour clock system may be used.
The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the Sun has
crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the Sun has crossed
the line). At 12 noon, the Sun is at its highest point in the sky and
directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither 'ante-' nor 'post-'."
Dave Osborne
> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>> John wrote:
>>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>>> names. Examples spotted today:
>>>>
>>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>>
>>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>>
>>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>>
>>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>>
>>>>
>>> 10% solutions, your local smack dealer.
>>
>> 7% solution - Sherlock Holmes
>>
>
> Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in hand...
>
OK, I'll bite. Chloroform? Rohypnol?, Ketamine?
Mike
Cool .. where can I get this stuff !!
My pet hate ... "at this moment in time" ..... is there any other
moment ?
Mike Peters
The Natural Philosopher
Another Dave
>
> A bit like "logistics" appearing on delivery vans a few years ago.
>
Used to be called "haulage".
Still should be in most cases.
Another Dave
Jon Fairbairn
> Pet hates:
> [...]
>
> "Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
To repeat something I heard recently:
Middle aged person (smugly): "My partner and I fuck like
rabbits"
Young person (horrified): "My partner and I fuck, like, each
other."
--
Jón Fairbairn Jon.Fa...@cl.cam.ac.uk
http://www.chaos.org.uk/~jf/Stuff-I-dont-want.html (updated 2009-01-31)
Mike Barnes
>"Train station" rather than "railway station".
But "bus station" is OK presumably.
--
Mike Barnes
Mike Barnes
>My pet hate ... "at this moment in time" ..... is there any other
>moment ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia
--
Mike Barnes
Steve Firth
> "Like" - sprinkled into every sentence by those under 30
That's like just so old?
Steve Firth
> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company names.
Have you been asleep for the best part of a decade?
The nadir of the use of the word "solutions" was IMO Tesco who feature
"Meal Solutions" in their supermarkets. This brought to mind the image
of chavs dressed in pyjamas sucking their nourishment through blotting
paper like a plague of flies.
Steve Firth
> > Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in hand...
> >
>
> OK, I'll bite. Chloroform?
Point of order, that's a solvent, not a solution.
Bruce
At least "Train station" is logical;
Bus station (OK), car park (OK), railway station (Eh????).
Clive George
news:nn68m5hc8esoq4g5f...@4ax.com...
> My pet hate ... "at this moment in time" ..... is there any other
> moment ?
See the below reference:
(etc)
F
init
--
F
Alan
"absolutely" for "yes"
--
email ~= s/nospam//
Dave
> To avoid confusion, the correct designation for 12 o'clock is 12 noon or
> 12 midnight. Alternatively, the 24-hour clock system may be used.
>
> The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the Sun has
> crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the Sun has crossed
> the line). At 12 noon, the Sun is at its highest point in the sky and
> directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither 'ante-' nor 'post-'."
Mmmmm so when we put the clocks forward in spring, does that mean that
pm does not start until after what we call 1 p.m. (1300 hours?)
Dave
Dave
>Ah, as in Lewis Carroll's, "Jam every *other* day, but never JAM TODAY!!"
That reminds me of a sign in the caravan park bar in Southsea.
It says 'free beer tomorrow'.
Dave
Dave
Now you have disturbed the moth balls in my mind, remind me why it was
invented to dissolve please.
Dave
Andy Champ
> If a black rapper is greeting a prostitute, would he say "yo
> ho"
>
>
The phrase may be older than you think. Having heard rumours of the
predilections of sailors in the past is this why pirates used to say "Yo
ho ho, and a bottle of rum"?
Andy
Steve Firth
> the caravan park bar in Southsea.
Boggle? Where the fuck is that? Up near the pikey[1] end by Fort
Cumberland Road?
[1] OK, I admit it's all pikey but some bits are pikier.
Dave Osborne
Steve Firth wrote:
>> Dave Osborne <Dave...@SPAMymail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in
>>>> hand...
>>>>
>>> OK, I'll bite. Chloroform?
>>
>> Point of order, that's a solvent, not a solution.
>
I refer you to Merck Index, Eighth Edition, 1968
"One ml [of chloroform] dissolves in about 200ml of water at 25� [C]."
terry
> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:51:01 +0000, Invisible Man
>
> <invisi...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >Don't be ridiculous. Companies have to use buzzwords and acronyms that
> >even their employees don't understand.
>
> Talking of this, could sks please explain the difference between
> "feedback" and "360 degree feedback"?
>
> I suspect 360 degree is used when the talk just goes round in circles,
> but I'm not sure.
>
> John
360 degrees maybe; but in which plane?
terry
> 360 degrees maybe; but in which plane?
Oh; by the way, bringing you right back to where you started; eh?
geoff
<no....@nospam.invalid> writes
--
geoff
Steve Firth
> "One ml [of chloroform] dissolves in about 200ml of water at 25� [C]."
At which point it is a solution of chloroform in water.
Or is it a solution of water in chloroform?
geoff
<giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> writes
>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:44 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>
>>
>> How about "foot pedal" or "2am in the morning" (not to be confused with
>> 2am in the afternoon).
>>
>> Or "bored of"?
>>
>> The list is endless.
>
>"Open all day" on a pub that's open 12:00h - 23:00h
>
>Also '12 am to 12 pm' for 00:00h - 12:00h, or, as for something in a
>village hall nearby: "Open from 12 pm to 10 pm", so 22 hours!
Err ...
can't be
there is no such thing as 12am or 12pm
If things get on your tits - make sure it's the right tit not the left
one
--
geoff
John Rumm
> PeterC <giraffe...@homecall.co.uk>
> wibbled on Saturday 30 January 2010 08:19
>
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:09:50 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>
>>> if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
>>> "well well"?
>
> Our English teacher told us (and he wasn't an idiot) that "they" was
> acceptable in the singular where gender could not be assumed.
>
> As I don't have a better solution (ha) I'm going to keep using the term. cf
> "he/she did blah"- horrible.
I was under the impression that the correct address in those
circumstance was simply "he" - in reference to the generic species "man"
as opposed to the specific gender. The he/she stuff just being pc bull
to keep poorly educated feminists happy ;-)
There is a reasonable definition and discussion here:
--
Cheers,
John.
/=================================================================\
| Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
| John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk |
\=================================================================/
Frank Erskine
<mikeb...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
>Frank Erskine <frank....@btinternet.com>:
>>"Train station" rather than "railway station".
>
>But "bus station" is OK presumably.
Yes.
--
Frank Erskine
Frank Erskine
>On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:24:51 +0000, Dave Osborne
><Dave...@SPAMymail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 29/01/2010 23:03, John Rumm wrote:
>>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>> John wrote:
>>>>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>>>>> names. Examples spotted today:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 10% solutions, your local smack dealer.
>>>>
>>>> 7% solution - Sherlock Holmes
>>>>
>>>
>>> Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in hand...
>>>
>>
>>OK, I'll bite. Chloroform? Rohypnol?, Ketamine?
>
>Cool .. where can I get this stuff !!
>
>My pet hate ... "at this moment in time" ..... is there any other
>moment ?
>
Then of course there's "Basically", which means "I'll keep it simple
for your benefit".
--
Frank Erskine
The Medway Handyman
>
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:46:04 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
>> <grimly...@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when
>>> the drugs began to take hold. I remember "John"
>>> <Who90...@ntlworld.com> saying something like:
>>>
>>>> Pet hates:
>>>>
>>>> "It was surreal" - overused and not understood.
>>>>
>>>> "And also" - use one or the other - not both.
>>>>
>>>
>>> stabby.
>>
>>
>> Multiculturalism.
>
That one drives me mad as well.
--
Dave - The Medway Handyman
www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
The Medway Handyman
I thought it was rum, bum & backy?
The Medway Handyman
> On 29/01/2010 23:03, John Rumm wrote:
>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>> John wrote:
>>>>> Have you noticed the increase of the word "Solutions" on company
>>>>> names. Examples spotted today:
>>>>>
>>>>> Washroom Solutions = Bog cleaning contractor
>>>>>
>>>>> Transport Solutions = Van Hire
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobility Solutions = Supplier of Mobility Scooters
>>>>>
>>>>> Office Solutions = Furniture
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 10% solutions, your local smack dealer.
>>>
>>> 7% solution - Sherlock Holmes
>>>
>>
>> Problems finding a sexual partner? Never mind, the solution is in
>> hand...
>
> OK, I'll bite. Chloroform? Rohypnol?, Ketamine?
I though Ketamine was a horse tranquiliser?
Dave Osborne
That as well. Whackypedia has the gen.
Grimly Curmudgeon
like:
Random.
djc
> Frank Erskine wrote:
>> "Train station" rather than "railway station".
>
> That one drives me mad as well.
and me.
--
djc
The Natural Philosopher
The Natural Philosopher
> Andy Champ wrote:
>> The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>> If a black rapper is greeting a prostitute, would he say "yo
>>> ho"
>>>
>>>
>> The phrase may be older than you think. Having heard rumours of the
>> predilections of sailors in the past is this why pirates used to say
>> "Yo ho ho, and a bottle of rum"?
>
> I thought it was rum, bum & backy?
>
>
Bob Martin
>PeterC <giraffe...@homecall.co.uk>
>wibbled on Saturday 30 January 2010 08:19
>
>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:09:50 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>
>>> if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
>>> "well well"?
>>
>> Use of "they" for one person :->
>
>Our English teacher told us (and he wasn't an idiot) that "they" was
>acceptable in the singular where gender could not be assumed.
>
>As I don't have a better solution (ha) I'm going to keep using the term. cf
>"he/she did blah"- horrible.
Even if the sex of the person is known?
PeterC
> John Rumm <see.my.s...@nowhere.null>
> wibbled on Saturday 30 January 2010 17:41
>
>> Tim Watts wrote:
>>> PeterC <giraffe...@homecall.co.uk>
>>> wibbled on Saturday 30 January 2010 08:19
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 01:09:50 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> if a teenager is feeling particularly good, would they claim to be
>>>>> "well well"?
>>>> Use of "they" for one person :->
>>>
>>> Our English teacher told us (and he wasn't an idiot) that "they" was
>>> acceptable in the singular where gender could not be assumed.
>>>
>>> As I don't have a better solution (ha) I'm going to keep using the term.
>>> cf "he/she did blah"- horrible.
>>
>> I was under the impression that the correct address in those
>> circumstance was simply "he" - in reference to the generic species "man"
>> as opposed to the specific gender. The he/she stuff just being pc bull
>> to keep poorly educated feminists happy ;-)
>>
>> There is a reasonable definition and discussion here:
>>
> http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=he&title=21st&sourceid=Mozilla-
> search
>>
> http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=they&title=21st
>
> does list the "they" case, albeit as a colloquialism. I still prefer it.
>
> "If a nurse is on duty, then he should wash his hands" just sounds wrong.
>
> "If a nurse is on duty, then she should wash her hands" also sounds wrong as
> there are plenty of male nurses and "she" has never been used in a gender
> neutral way.
I just use "it".
--
Peter.
2x4 - thick plank; 4x4 - two of 'em.
PeterC
Oh boy! That /really/ annoys me: 'the actress...they' (and e.g.
'spokesperson' when the gender of the said 'person' is obvious).
PeterC
>> "Train station" rather than "railway station".
>
> That one drives me mad as well.
<AOL> - but, sadly, it's logical. Just what we're used to.
PeterC
> On 30/01/2010 08:18, PeterC wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:44 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>
>>
>> Also '12 am to 12 pm' for 00:00h - 12:00h,
>
> 12 a.m. is midnight and 12 p.m. is mid-day in my book (and for most
> people, I suspect), so that works for me.
>
> or, as for something in a
>> village hall nearby: "Open from 12 pm to 10 pm", so 22 hours!
>
> Which is 10 hours, not 22 hours if you take 12 p.m. as midday. ;-)
I wouldn't, of course. 12h post-meridiem is, by definition, midnight, so
that makes 22 hours open. 00:00h - 22:00h would be the same.
There is an infinitesimal difference in time between 24:00h and 00:00h, but
there's a major difference in real life - the date!
>
> Quote from the National Physical Laboratory:
>
> "There are no standards established for the meaning of 12 a.m. and 12
> p.m. It is often said that 12 a.m. Monday is midnight on Monday morning
> and 12 p.m. is mid-day. This puts all the times beginning with 12 and
> ending with a.m. in the same one-hour block, similarly with those ending
> with p.m. It can also be argued that by the time you have seen a clock
> showing 12:00 at mid-day it is already post meridiem, and similarly at
> midnight it is already ante meridiem. Times in the first hour of the day
> are sometimes given as, for example, 00:47 a.m., with 00:00 a.m.
> corresponding to midnight, but with a time twelve hours later given as
> 12:47 p.m."
>
> Quote from National Maritime Museum.
>
> "Is noon 12 a.m. or 12 p.m.?
>
> 12 noon is neither a.m. nor p.m.
>
> To avoid confusion, the correct designation for 12 o'clock is 12 noon or
> 12 midnight. Alternatively, the 24-hour clock system may be used.
>
> The abbreviation a.m. stands for ante-meridiem (before the Sun has
> crossed the line) and p.m. for post-meridiem (after the Sun has crossed
> the line). At 12 noon, the Sun is at its highest point in the sky and
> directly over the meridian. It is therefore neither 'ante-' nor 'post-'."
PeterC
> In message <1gtn5he2jn7ud$.17ggy71teml4g$.d...@40tude.net>, PeterC
> <giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> writes
>>On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:44 +0000, Tim Streater wrote:
>>
>>>> Cue reference to "open all hours" and Arkwright's treacle toffee...
>>>
>>> How about "foot pedal" or "2am in the morning" (not to be confused with
>>> 2am in the afternoon).
>>>
>>> Or "bored of"?
>>>
>>> The list is endless.
>>
>>"Open all day" on a pub that's open 12:00h - 23:00h
>>
>>Also '12 am to 12 pm' for 00:00h - 12:00h, or, as for something in a
>>village hall nearby: "Open from 12 pm to 10 pm", so 22 hours!
>
> Err ...
>
> can't be
>
> there is no such thing as 12am or 12pm
Precisely
>
> If things get on your tits - make sure it's the right tit not the left
> one
Indeed, but I'm just quoting the sign. Anyway, I rode on and leftit behind.
Frank Erskine
<giraffe...@homecall.co.uk> wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 18:00:14 GMT, The Medway Handyman wrote:
>
>>> "Train station" rather than "railway station".
>>
>> That one drives me mad as well.
>
><AOL> - but, sadly, it's logical. Just what we're used to.
The English language isn't logical.
Nor is, say, French, where every noun is masculine or feminine.
--
Frank Erskine