SDS rotary stop / hammer only adapter

[spuorg...@gowanhill.com]

Hi

I have a SDS drill with a rotary or rotary+hammer setting. I would like to use it on hammer only for chasing out cables and back boxes (moorcut box sinker looks attractive).

Is there a chuck adapter that would convert rotary+hammer to hammer-only action?

Thanks

Owain

[newshound]

I've never seen one and would be an interesting challenge to make one.
If you really want an SDS box sinker, you need another drill.

For chasing, if you have a compressor you could use an air tool which
gives you reciprocating motion directly, without a rotational
intermediate stage.

Something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Abac-190mm-Air-Chisel-Chipping-Hammer-1-4-BSP-Air-Tool-5pc-Set-/370741703838?pt=UK_Air_Tools_and_Compressors&hash=item5651ed749e

Cheaper than Machine Mart (and Silverline is even cheaper)

[John Rumm]

On 13/07/2013 19:14, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:

Don't recall ever having seen one.


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[Rod Speed]

"John Rumm" <see.my.s...@nowhere.null> wrote in message
news:ZN-dnX__oL3za3zM...@brightview.co.uk...

> On 13/07/2013 19:14, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a SDS drill with a rotary or rotary+hammer setting. I would
>> like to use it on hammer only for chasing out cables and back boxes
>> (moorcut box sinker looks attractive).
>>
>> Is there a chuck adapter that would convert rotary+hammer to
>> hammer-only action?
>
> Don't recall ever having seen one.

There are plenty of examples of hammer only devices, no drill function.

[Colin Stamp]

On 13/07/2013 19:14, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:

I have a Quadcut box sinker which seems to have a bearing on the square
cutter and came with a bottle of oil. I'm not sure if it was intended to
be actually used with a rotary drill or if it's just a safety feature
in-case anyone forgets to turn rotary off after drilling the round hole.

Cheers,

Colin.

[ARW]

Care to cite one?

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Adam

[Lobster]

On 14/07/2013 00:00, newshound wrote:
> On 13/07/2013 19:14, spuorg...@gowanhill.com wrote:
>>
>> I have a SDS drill with a rotary or rotary+hammer setting. I would
>> like to use it on hammer only for chasing out cables and back boxes
>> (moorcut box sinker looks attractive).
>>
>> Is there a chuck adapter that would convert rotary+hammer to
>> hammer-only action?

> I've never seen one and would be an interesting challenge to make one.
> If you really want an SDS box sinker, you need another drill.

Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an SDS drill that you
can't use on 'hammer only' function - even my first-ever cheap-as-chips
SDS machine did that. Are they common?

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David

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <pauEt.2487$Qp6....@fx04.am4>,

Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an SDS drill that you
> can't use on 'hammer only' function - even my first-ever cheap-as-chips
> SDS machine did that. Are they common?

Some of the early cheap ones. I'd guess you need a better built unit to be
used hammer only, as it is likely to be used for longer periods than just
drilling.

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Dave Plowman da...@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <krtoh7$ttd$1...@dont-email.me>,

If you mean an electric tool for chasing etc only (no rotary function),
B&D made one called a 3/4 hammer. Also used for installing Philips red
head bolts into concrete. But IIRC predated SDS. Was fiendishly expensive.

A chuck adaptor to stop an SDS rotating I'd say impossible.

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*Why can't women put on mascara with their mouth closed?

[Dave Plowman (News)]

In article <40c95b01-81fc-4470...@googlegroups.com>,

If it has no rotation stop facility, I'd say it's probably not up to doing
chasing only. That puts a great deal more load on the device - it will get

used for longer periods than just drilling.

Pretty irrelevant anyway, as I don't think it's possible to make what you
want.

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*I got a job at a bakery because I kneaded dough.*

[Rod Speed]

"ARW" <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:krtoh7$ttd$1...@dont-email.me...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BAUHOLTZ-COMMERCIAL-GRADE-JACK-HAMMER-Jackhammer-Demolition-Concrete-Tools/370847299627?_trksid=p2047675.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555003%26algo%3DPW.CAT%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D29%26meid%3D9065065802812265242%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1013%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D280860373591%26

[spuorg...@gowanhill.com]

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:31:49 AM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> Some of the early cheap ones. I'd guess you need a better built unit to be
> used hammer only, as it is likely to be used for longer periods than just
> drilling.

It's a Hilti TE 15. I think the later models may have hammer only but this one only has a little lever to select hammer drill or no hammer drill.

Oh well, time for a saunter over to toolsatan to look for bargains.

Owain

[ARW]

That's not a chuck adaptor that can convert rotary+hammer to hammer-only
action is it?


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Adam

[Reentrant]

On 14/07/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <pauEt.2487$Qp6....@fx04.am4>,
> Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an SDS drill that you
>> can't use on 'hammer only' function - even my first-ever cheap-as-chips
>> SDS machine did that. Are they common?
>
> Some of the early cheap ones. I'd guess you need a better built unit to be
> used hammer only, as it is likely to be used for longer periods than just
> drilling.
>

Must be at least 10 years ago I ordered a Bosch SDS from Screwfix that
was advertised as having both hammer and rotation stop but in fact only
had the former. To their credit Screwfix swapped it for a more expensive
De Walt at no extra charge. I had ordered an SDS chisel set at the same
time so it was obvious I needed rotation-stop.

I think the Bosch was around £90 - maybe that was cheap at the time.

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Reentrant

[Steve Firth]

ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> That's not a chuck adaptor that can convert rotary+hammer to hammer-only
> action is it?

Given that such a device would be close to bloody lethal, I suspect that
none exist. However Wodney is not over-gifted with intellect so expect
one of his famous toys out of the pram moments.

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[John Rumm]

On 14/07/2013 15:39, Steve Firth wrote:
> ARW <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> That's not a chuck adaptor that can convert rotary+hammer to hammer-only
>> action is it?
>
> Given that such a device would be close to bloody lethal, I suspect that
> none exist.

You would have to do it in the style of the old B&D drill attachments.
i.e. Something that clamps on to the drill body itself, then has a SDS
males section connected to a second SDS chuck via some sort of slip
coupling. Even with all that, you would still likely end up with a
chisel that is free to rotate rather than being able to lock it in
position.

All in all, much simpler to get a drill with roto stop.

[John Rumm]

On 14/07/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> In article <pauEt.2487$Qp6....@fx04.am4>,
> Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an SDS drill that you
>> can't use on 'hammer only' function - even my first-ever cheap-as-chips
>> SDS machine did that. Are they common?
>
> Some of the early cheap ones. I'd guess you need a better built unit to be
> used hammer only, as it is likely to be used for longer periods than just
> drilling.

Even some of the earlier pro machines did not have it. Makita certainly
did some like that - and possibly still do.

[Rod Speed]

"ARW" <adamwa...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message

news:kru73i$s1$1...@dont-email.me...

I said HAMMER ONLY DEVICE not chuck adapter, stupid.

[Jim K]

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:14:03 PM UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
> On 14/07/2013 11:31, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
>
> > In article <pauEt.2487$Qp6....@fx04.am4>,
>
> > Lobster <davidlobs...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Come to think of it I don't think I've ever seen an SDS drill that you
>
> >> can't use on 'hammer only' function - even my first-ever cheap-as-chips
>
> >> SDS machine did that. Are they common?
>
> >
>
> > Some of the early cheap ones. I'd guess you need a better built unit to be
>
> > used hammer only, as it is likely to be used for longer periods than just
>
> > drilling.
>
>
>
> Even some of the earlier pro machines did not have it. Makita certainly
>
> did some like that - and possibly still do.
>

shure do:-

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=makita+2+mode+sds

(recently been eyeing up 3 mode Makita SDSs for my armoury ;>))

Jim K

[John Rumm]

I think my 2450 is still one of my favourite tools - you can't help
smiling as you use it! Really good speed control lets you hammer light
enough to just knick through skim plaster, or anywhere right up to flat
out. Good chisel position lock, keeps the chisel oriented the way you
set it, ample power, nice and quite, not too heavy etc.

[Mike Clarke]

John Rumm wrote:

> I think my 2450 is still one of my favourite tools

+1 :-)
--
Mike Clarke

[Grimly Curmudgeon]

On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:11:02 +0100, Mike Clarke
<uceb...@milibyte.co.uk> wrote:

>John Rumm wrote:
>
>> I think my 2450 is still one of my favourite tools
>
>+1 :-)

Ditto; even paying through the nose for it at a local supplier because
I needed it in a hurry, it's been well worth the extra.