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David WE Roberts
Aug 25, 2012, 7:32:46 AM8/25/12
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I'm trying to design the layout for bathroom fans and Manrose kit seems to
come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
comapre like with like.
Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
TIA
Dave R
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come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
comapre like with like.
Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
TIA
Dave R
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No plan survives contact with the enemy.
[Not even bunny]
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The Medway Handyman
Aug 25, 2012, 7:46:41 AM8/25/12
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On 25/08/2012 12:32, David WE Roberts wrote:
> I'm trying to design the layout for bathroom fans and Manrose kit seems
> to come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
> Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
> comapre like with like.
>
> Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
>
> TIA
>
> Dave R
>
No experience of reliability, but their spares back up is excellent -
> I'm trying to design the layout for bathroom fans and Manrose kit seems
> to come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
> Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
> comapre like with like.
>
> Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
>
> TIA
>
> Dave R
>
really excellent.
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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk
Andrew Gabriel
Aug 25, 2012, 8:10:55 AM8/25/12
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In article <a9rrfi...@mid.individual.net>,
in. One was burned out, and the other burned out within a year
(at which point they were 10 years old). Also, the little run-on
circuit boards ran with a large resistor hot enough that it had
burned its rating off and scorched the circuit board, which is
not something I was particularly enthusiastic about having powered
on continuously, particularly next to a 4" hole into the loft which
would be ideal for fire spreading.
I replaced them with Deta (no longer exists). One did seize, but
Deta include a self-reset thermal trip, so it didn't burn out,
and I could repair it. They are both now 10 years old, and still
working. I also fitted a vent-axia in another house 10 years ago,
and that's still working, but it's a compact model and consequently
slightly more noisy.
Vent-axia and Xpelair seem to be regarded as the better makes in
this area, but are usually more expensive. My sample size of two
Manrose fans bought over 20 years ago could well not be
representitive of what you buy today, and that could be said of
any past experience of any make.
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Andrew Gabriel
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"David WE Roberts" <nos...@btinternet.com> writes:
> I'm trying to design the layout for bathroom fans and Manrose kit seems to
> come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
> Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
> comapre like with like.
>
> Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
There were two Manrose extractor fans in this house when I moved
> I'm trying to design the layout for bathroom fans and Manrose kit seems to
> come up a lot cheaper than brands such as Xpelair.
> Sometimes a quarter of the price, although I am finding it difficult to
> comapre like with like.
>
> Anyway, is Manrose a reliable brand?
in. One was burned out, and the other burned out within a year
(at which point they were 10 years old). Also, the little run-on
circuit boards ran with a large resistor hot enough that it had
burned its rating off and scorched the circuit board, which is
not something I was particularly enthusiastic about having powered
on continuously, particularly next to a 4" hole into the loft which
would be ideal for fire spreading.
I replaced them with Deta (no longer exists). One did seize, but
Deta include a self-reset thermal trip, so it didn't burn out,
and I could repair it. They are both now 10 years old, and still
working. I also fitted a vent-axia in another house 10 years ago,
and that's still working, but it's a compact model and consequently
slightly more noisy.
Vent-axia and Xpelair seem to be regarded as the better makes in
this area, but are usually more expensive. My sample size of two
Manrose fans bought over 20 years ago could well not be
representitive of what you buy today, and that could be said of
any past experience of any make.
--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]
David WE Roberts
Aug 25, 2012, 8:17:50 AM8/25/12
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stuart noble
Aug 25, 2012, 9:38:05 AM8/25/12
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about all. Not a patch on the original Aidelle Loovent, which packed up
after 25 years
ARWadsworth
Aug 25, 2012, 10:03:00 AM8/25/12
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a problem with them. This no longer seems to be a problem.
I use Greenwood Airvac for the better customers.
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Adam
Fred
Aug 27, 2012, 4:04:50 AM8/27/12
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On Sat, 25 Aug 2012 12:10:55 +0000 (UTC), and...@cucumber.demon.co.uk
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
>There were two Manrose extractor fans in this house when I moved
>in. One was burned out, and the other burned out within a year
>(at which point they were 10 years old). Also, the little run-on
>circuit boards ran with a large resistor hot enough that it had
>burned its rating off and scorched the circuit board, which is
>not something I was particularly enthusiastic about having powered
>on continuously, particularly next to a 4" hole into the loft which
>would be ideal for fire spreading.
I bought and installed a Manrose fan about five or six years ago. I
(Andrew Gabriel) wrote:
>There were two Manrose extractor fans in this house when I moved
>in. One was burned out, and the other burned out within a year
>(at which point they were 10 years old). Also, the little run-on
>circuit boards ran with a large resistor hot enough that it had
>burned its rating off and scorched the circuit board, which is
>not something I was particularly enthusiastic about having powered
>on continuously, particularly next to a 4" hole into the loft which
>would be ideal for fire spreading.
bought it because it was readily available and cheap. It works: it
blows air through the outside vent but without buying an Xpelair and
fitting that, I don't know whether the Xpelair would move more air, so
I cannot compare.
The Manrose fan I bought had some problem with the timer. I cannot
remember exactly what now, I think it would not stay on for very long.
Manrose sent me a new PCB, so as another reply said, they seem quite
helpful with spares.
Like Andrew, I found that underneath the PCB, the plastic housing had
discoloured due to heat from the resistor. I can't remember whether
the resistor on the original board failed causing this, or whether it
was just a gradual thing from constant heat.
I hadn't seen inside any other timer fans, so I thought they were all
the same. If there are better desigsn, perhaps I should consider them.
If that resistor is powered constantly, not only is it a source of
heat but it is another "standby" current to add to the electricity
bill.
Brian Gaff
Aug 27, 2012, 4:21:21 AM8/27/12
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At the very least they should uprate the wattage of the resistor I'd say.
Brian
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Andrew Gabriel
Aug 27, 2012, 1:22:21 PM8/27/12
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In article <8t9m38pibb6ip194g...@4ax.com>,
run-on timer board. It should in theory be possible to design a
run-on timer which powers itself off when the timer expires, but
these don't. AFAICR, the circuit board in the Vent-Axia one is all
tiny surface-mount components, so it can't have anything giving off
as much heat, but I haven't investigated the logic it uses.
Fred <fr...@no-email.here.invalid> writes:
> I bought and installed a Manrose fan about five or six years ago. I
> bought it because it was readily available and cheap. It works: it
> blows air through the outside vent but without buying an Xpelair and
> fitting that, I don't know whether the Xpelair would move more air, so
> I cannot compare.
>
> The Manrose fan I bought had some problem with the timer. I cannot
> remember exactly what now, I think it would not stay on for very long.
> Manrose sent me a new PCB, so as another reply said, they seem quite
> helpful with spares.
>
> Like Andrew, I found that underneath the PCB, the plastic housing had
> discoloured due to heat from the resistor. I can't remember whether
> the resistor on the original board failed causing this, or whether it
> was just a gradual thing from constant heat.
>
> I hadn't seen inside any other timer fans, so I thought they were all
> the same. If there are better desigsn, perhaps I should consider them.
> If that resistor is powered constantly, not only is it a source of
> heat but it is another "standby" current to add to the electricity
> bill.
It is powered continuously. It's part of the power supply for the
> I bought and installed a Manrose fan about five or six years ago. I
> bought it because it was readily available and cheap. It works: it
> blows air through the outside vent but without buying an Xpelair and
> fitting that, I don't know whether the Xpelair would move more air, so
> I cannot compare.
>
> The Manrose fan I bought had some problem with the timer. I cannot
> remember exactly what now, I think it would not stay on for very long.
> Manrose sent me a new PCB, so as another reply said, they seem quite
> helpful with spares.
>
> Like Andrew, I found that underneath the PCB, the plastic housing had
> discoloured due to heat from the resistor. I can't remember whether
> the resistor on the original board failed causing this, or whether it
> was just a gradual thing from constant heat.
>
> I hadn't seen inside any other timer fans, so I thought they were all
> the same. If there are better desigsn, perhaps I should consider them.
> If that resistor is powered constantly, not only is it a source of
> heat but it is another "standby" current to add to the electricity
> bill.
run-on timer board. It should in theory be possible to design a
run-on timer which powers itself off when the timer expires, but
these don't. AFAICR, the circuit board in the Vent-Axia one is all
tiny surface-mount components, so it can't have anything giving off
as much heat, but I haven't investigated the logic it uses.
Man at B&Q
Aug 28, 2012, 5:44:25 AM8/28/12
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On Aug 27, 9:21 am, "Brian Gaff" <Bria...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> At the very least they should uprate the wattage of the resistor I'd say.
> Brian
>
That will help the resistor, but will not stop damage to surrounding
> At the very least they should uprate the wattage of the resistor I'd say.
> Brian
>
components, PCB, etc.
MBQ
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