carpet grippers for concrete/asphalt floor??
Richard Faulkner
floor - it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk breaching
the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods
down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??
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Richard Faulkner
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Lobster
> "No more nails"/ Gripfill works pretty well.
>
that stuff. Ideally stick the grippers down the day before you want to
carpet.
David
Chris Bacon
> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
> floor - it's a kind of shiny black
Does not sound like asphalt.
> - and I dont want to risk breaching
> the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods
> down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??
Gripfill. Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
carpet are you putting down? Do you need grippers? What really *is* the
floor made of, I wonder.
John Rumm
And remember to pull the nails out that would usually be used to fix
them down, or you will have interesting lumps in your carpet!
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Cheers,
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Richard Faulkner
<chris...@thai.com> writes
>Richard Faulkner wrote:
>> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>>floor - it's a kind of shiny black
>
>Does not sound like asphalt.
>
>
Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.
>> - and I dont want to risk breaching the damp proof barrier, nor
>>crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another
>>way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??
>
>Gripfill.
Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
glue the grippers down.
> Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
>keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
>carpet are you putting down?
A £6 per yard berber I think, over 11mm Cloud 9 underlay.
> Do you need grippers?
In areas of other flats where there are no grippers, it looks terrible.
> What really *is* the
>floor made of, I wonder.
???? <G>
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Richard Faulkner
Rob Morley
ric...@estate.demon.co.uk says...
> In message <43307d26$1...@x-privat.org>, Chris Bacon
> <chris...@thai.com> writes
> >Richard Faulkner wrote:
> >> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
> >>floor - it's a kind of shiny black
> >
> >Does not sound like asphalt.
> >
> Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.
Probably rubberised bituminous emulsion
http://www.ruberoid.ie/ruberoid41.htm
Looks like you could use that as an adhesive too.
Dave
> Richard Faulkner wrote:
>> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>> floor - it's a kind of shiny black
>
> Does not sound like asphalt.
Sorry to disagree, but it sounds exactly like the asphalt floor I had in my
previous house.
Use the solvent based No More Nails to fix the grippers.
Dave
John Rumm
> Does not sound like asphalt.
could be "self leveling" latex cement...
Lobster
> In message <43307d26$1...@x-privat.org>, Chris Bacon
> <chris...@thai.com> writes
>
>
> Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
> glue the grippers down.
The grippers
David
Grumble
"Richard Faulkner" <ric...@estate.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:+6k0G3HL...@estate-1.demon.co.uk...
If it is asphalt or similar i.e. a bitumen based substance, then solvent
based adhesives like gripfill or "no more nails"will dissolve the surface to
a degree and not adhere strongly enough. We use a urethane or cyanoacrylate
type of adhesive to stick the gripper down but don't ask me where you would
find a retail outlet for the stuff. That said though, there isn't much
strength in bonding to asphalt at the best of times. You might still pull
the gripper off the floor if you stretch the carpet properly. Cut the
gripper into 300mm lengths to take up any unevenness in the floor, shorter
if you have to and don't skimp on the amount of adhesive you use - you need
what you need - and that's that! If you find the cyanoacrylate type of
adhesive, it will probably be the foaming type so read the instructions
properly, I can't stress that enough, you'll find out why when you use it.
Grumble
Lobster
> "Richard Faulkner" <ric...@estate.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:+6k0G3HL...@estate-1.demon.co.uk...
>
>> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>> floor - it's a kind of shiny black - and I dont want to risk
>> breaching the damp proof barrier, nor crumbling the floor, by
>> nailing gripperods down. Is there another way, e.g. very sticky
>> gripperods??
> If it is asphalt or similar i.e. a bitumen based substance, then
> solvent based adhesives like gripfill or "no more nails"will dissolve
> the surface to a degree and not adhere strongly enough.
But you can get "No more nails"-type stuff in both solvent and
water-based flavours though; in fact the one I use routinely is water-based
David
Cordless Crazy
Richard Faulkner Wrote:
> In message 43307d26$1...@x-privat.org, Chris Bacon
> chris...@thai.com writes-
> Richard Faulkner wrote:-
> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>
> Does not sound like asphalt.
>
>
> Perhaps not - I'll ask my builder if he knows what it might be.
> - and I dont want to risk breaching the damp proof barrier, nor
> crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another
>
> Gripfill.-
>
> Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does
> it
> glue the grippers down.
> Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
> keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
>
> A £6 per yard berber I think, over 11mm Cloud 9 underlay.
> Do you need grippers?-
>
> In areas of other flats where there are no grippers, it looks
> terrible.
> What really *is* the
> floor made of, I wonder.-
>
> ???? G
>
> --
> Richard Faulkner
Gripfill the gripper only, not the carpet! Or else you will have a
costly job on your hands!
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Cordless Crazy
Chris Bacon
> Chris Bacon writes
>
>> Richard Faulkner wrote:
>>
>>> I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>>> floor - it's a kind of shiny black
>>> crumbling the floor, by nailing gripperods down. Is there another
>>> way, e.g. very sticky gripperods??
>
>> Gripfill.
>
> Does this glue the carpet down, (which I'm not sure I want), or does it
> glue the grippers down.
It glues the grippers down. If not nailing down, then pull the short
masonry nails out, squeeze a good bead along the back of the gripper,
and rub it onto the floor (which *must* be clean and not dusty). It's
got quite a good "grab", but you might need to put something like
bricks on if the gripper's bendy. Leave for 24 hrs. min.
>> Once the carpet's been down for an hour or two, grippers just
>> keep the edges down, they're not subject to much "pull". What sort of
>> carpet are you putting down?
>
> A £6 per yard berber I think
Is that on hessian?
Chris Bacon
> Chris Bacon wrote:
>>Richard Faulkner wrote:
>>>I am carpeting a basement flat which has what looks like an asphalt
>>>floor - it's a kind of shiny black
>>
>>Does not sound like asphalt.
>
> Sorry to disagree, but it sounds exactly like the asphalt floor I had in my
> previous house.
Haven't seen a shiny one!
> Use the solvent based No More Nails to fix the grippers.
Yes, I forgot to mention that - the other stuff is not as good,
especially for something like this!
[GC]jimi
i am a carpet fitter buy some spay adhesive coat the floor round the out side
othe room alow to dry cut carpet grippers into 8 inch strips use gripfill a
1cm beed push gripper strips onto the gripill in a forward backward and left
to right movementevenly all the way around the room leaving about 1 cm gap to
the skirting leave for at least 24 hrs and bobs your uncle
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alan_m
> replying to Richard Faulkner, [GC]jimi wrote:
>
> leave for at least 24 hrs and bobs your uncle
>
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> i am a carpet fitter buy some spay adhesive
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