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Pyriform

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May 7, 2008, 6:20:39 AM5/7/08
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I now understand (from a reply to my previous post) that carpet grippers
should be placed far enough from the skirting board to allow the carpet to
be tucked into the gap. But what is the ideal gap?

I want to fit these myself because the floor is concrete and I want to
ensure they are solidly fixed before getting a carpet fitter in. I'm
thinking of using adhesive *and* masonry nails (belt and braces!). Is that a
reasonable approach or are there better ways?

One other thing. I read a suggestion somewhere that if the wall length is
greater than 5m it's a good idea to "double-bank" the carpet grippers, one
behind the other, so as to ensure a good stretch. Does anyone concur with
that suggestion?


Thomarse

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May 7, 2008, 6:48:49 AM5/7/08
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If you are paying someone to fit the carpet, shouldnt they do the
grippers for you?

Tim Downie

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May 7, 2008, 6:55:57 AM5/7/08
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I'd concur. Unless you're thinking of fitting your own carpet you might as
well leave it to the fitters. If you do it, they're bound to grumble about
the positioning. If they get it wrong or the gripper pulls up, it's their
job to sort it out. Fitters are quite familiar with concrete floors.

Tim


Stuart Noble

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May 7, 2008, 7:44:10 AM5/7/08
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Exactly.
Might be better to cut the carpet yourself in case the fitters aren't
very good at it

Pyriform

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May 7, 2008, 8:18:32 AM5/7/08
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I've had experience of grippers (glued) lifting off a concrete floor a long
time after the carpet was fitted. I'm simply looking for the most durable
way of doing it. I don't care if it takes me a lot longer than a carpet
fitter would take.

I've also observed that the price charged for grippers and underlay is far
higher than I can find on the Internet, which is another reason for doing
those bits myself...


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Pyriform

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May 7, 2008, 9:00:19 AM5/7/08
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Paul Matthews wrote:

> Pyriform wrote:
>
>> I've also observed that the price charged for grippers and underlay
>> is far higher than I can find on the Internet, which is another
>> reason for doing those bits myself...
>
> It might well be that for their model, they don't make money on the
> carpet, or the fitting, but their profit is on the sundries.

That's their problem, not mine....


Mathew Newton

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May 7, 2008, 9:27:13 AM5/7/08
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On 7 May, 13:18, "Pyriform" <nob...@nowhere.com> wrote:

> I've also observed that the price charged for grippers and underlay is far
> higher than I can find on the Internet, which is another reason for doing
> those bits myself...

No, that's the reason for you supplying them, not fitting them also.

I really would leave it to them - they'll have them down in no time at
all and will then assume responsibility for their placement and
fitting.

If you're really adament about doing it yourself, ask them where they
want them going as I'm sure they all have their own preferences.

Mathew

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Guy Dawson

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May 7, 2008, 12:33:34 PM5/7/08
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Except that if you take away all their profit then they won't be
interested in fitting the carpet!

Guy
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Pyriform

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May 7, 2008, 2:54:11 PM5/7/08
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Guy Dawson wrote:
> Pyriform wrote:
>> Paul Matthews wrote:
>>> Pyriform wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've also observed that the price charged for grippers and underlay
>>>> is far higher than I can find on the Internet, which is another
>>>> reason for doing those bits myself...
>>> It might well be that for their model, they don't make money on the
>>> carpet, or the fitting, but their profit is on the sundries.
>>
>> That's their problem, not mine....
>
> Except that if you take away all their profit then they won't be
> interested in fitting the carpet!

I rather doubt I'd be taking away ALL their profit. Just denying them some
potential profit. Reuse of existing carpet grippers is hardly unknown, and
I'm not aware of anybody stipulating that their underlay products (which are
unlikely to include the one I want to use) have to be purchased in order for
them to fit the carpet. I'm happy to pay a reasonable price for the carpet,
along with a reasonable price for the fitting of it.

This was a straightforward DIY question, posed in a DIY group. I didn't
expect it to turn into a discussion of different business models and the
ethics of depriving tradesmen of an honest crust by doing DIY in the first
place...


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Dave

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May 7, 2008, 4:45:04 PM5/7/08
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Paul Matthews wrote:

> Pyriform wrote:
>
>
>>I've also observed that the price charged for grippers and underlay is far
>>higher than I can find on the Internet, which is another reason for doing
>>those bits myself...
>
>

> It might well be that for their model, they don't make money on the carpet, or
> the fitting, but their profit is on the sundries.

I went to my local carpet/fitting store yesterday to get just one
gripper strip for my earlier question about my hall carpet and they just
turned round and said, no charge.

Dave

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