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teddy...@hotmail.com

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Nov 27, 2012, 4:38:52 AM11/27/12
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I've received a quote from an electrician to move a consumer unit (a distance of less than a metre). He's quoted £335.00, including a contingency of £100 to extend or re-route one or two cables. Does this seem a reasonable sum? He suggests it will be about a day on-site; I can't see that any materials will be required beyond half a dozen screws and wall plugs, and a metre or so of cable. I'm not a cheapskate or anything by the way!

Bill Wright

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Nov 27, 2012, 4:42:20 AM11/27/12
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Sounds reasonable to me. Because of overheads (vehicles, insurance,
compulsory training, accountancy services, H & S, etc), we need to turn
over £400 per man per day.

Bill

Tim Watts

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Nov 27, 2012, 4:54:59 AM11/27/12
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He will possibly have to at least perform a basic test on the circuits too
as it's a CU move. He will definitely be required to verify bonding/earthing
before he touches anything.

Before you think that is overkill, a certain percentage of houses he touches
will have hideous wiring problems hiding that *must* be rectified before
certain other works are done.

Is he replacing the CU? The cost of that is not a significant part of the
job, so if yours is old, or full up it might be worth considering.
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teddy...@hotmail.com

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:12:14 AM11/27/12
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Thanks to respondents. You summaries of the situation seem fair enough to me. I'll go ahead with the job I think.

Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:24:59 AM11/27/12
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In article <84164095-6510-487c...@googlegroups.com>,
Depends on many things. At worst, every single cable might need extending.
At best, they'd only need shortening. And any combination in between - has
he actually seen the job? It's much quicker to cut one down than extend it.

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stuart noble

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:32:34 AM11/27/12
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You need £400 per day, and I'm only prepared to spend £200, so the job
doesn't get done. Soon you'll need £500 because you're only working 4
days a week. This about sums up a recession.

tony sayer

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Nov 27, 2012, 5:42:52 AM11/27/12
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In article <6a74525b-e177-4e88...@googlegroups.com>,
teddy...@hotmail.com scribeth thus
>Thanks to respondents. You summaries of the situation seem fair enough to me.
>I'll go ahead with the job I think.

Also...

Where are you?, I'd expect different pricing for sarrf of Watford to
north of the M18/A1M junction...

Thats sounds about darn sarff pricing...

Adam W might prove me otherwise?...
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Lobster

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Nov 27, 2012, 7:26:30 AM11/27/12
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On 27/11/2012 09:54, Tim Watts wrote:
> teddy...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've received a quote from an electrician to move a consumer unit (a
>> distance of less than a metre). He's quoted £335.00, including a
>> contingency of £100 to extend or re-route one or two cables. Does this
>> seem a reasonable sum? He suggests it will be about a day on-site; I
>> can't see that any materials will be required beyond half a dozen screws
>> and wall plugs, and a metre or so of cable. I'm not a cheapskate or
>> anything by the way!
>
> He will possibly have to at least perform a basic test on the circuits too
> as it's a CU move. He will definitely be required to verify bonding/earthing
> before he touches anything.
>
> Before you think that is overkill, a certain percentage of houses he touches
> will have hideous wiring problems hiding that *must* be rectified before
> certain other works are done.

With the above in mind, I'd have thought this could be a dead
straightforward and quick task OR a bit of a nightmare (or anywhere in
between); which suggests to me that contingency ought to be a lot higher
than £100, and that the actual cost might be a lot lower than what
appears to be the minumum possible (£235)

David

Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 27, 2012, 7:28:50 AM11/27/12
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In article <k921ua$pdv$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
> Sounds reasonable to me. Because of overheads (vehicles, insurance,
> compulsory training, accountancy services, H & S, etc), we need to turn
> over £400 per man per day.

Sounds like a good reason to find a one man business. ;-)

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teddy...@hotmail.com

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Nov 27, 2012, 7:42:15 AM11/27/12
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On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:29:23 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> Depends on many things. At worst, every single cable might need extending.
>
> At best, they'd only need shortening. And any combination in between - has
>
> he actually seen the job? It's much quicker to cut one down than extend it.
>
>
>
> --
>
> *Red meat is not bad for you. Fuzzy green meat is bad for you.
>
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Yes, he's seen the job. None of the cables needs extending but he's asked me to arrange for a 100amp double pole isolator to be fitted first. There are some questions about the efficacy of the earthing (hence my other post about the location of the incoming water pipe!).

I'm in Cheltenham. The guy who did the quote filled me with confidence - very cautious and gave me a very comprehensive and detailed quote. I'm certainly inclined to give him the business, particularly after these very useful comments, for which again many thanks.

The Natural Philosopher

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Nov 27, 2012, 8:12:03 AM11/27/12
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On 27/11/12 12:28, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <k921ua$pdv$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Sounds reasonable to me. Because of overheads (vehicles, insurance,
>> compulsory training, accountancy services, H & S, etc), we need to turn
>> over £400 per man per day.
>
> Sounds like a good reason to find a one man business. ;-)
>
the maths don't change that much.


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Bill Wright

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Nov 27, 2012, 9:48:54 AM11/27/12
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article <k921ua$pdv$2...@speranza.aioe.org>,
> Bill Wright <bi...@invalid.com> wrote:
>> Sounds reasonable to me. Because of overheads (vehicles, insurance,
>> compulsory training, accountancy services, H & S, etc), we need to turn
>> over £400 per man per day.
>
> Sounds like a good reason to find a one man business. ;-)
>
There's an irony here. Although one-man businesses are likely to be more
efficient, what they don't have is a team of cheap workers. If I take on
a job I most likely have to do it myself, because if it's a small job it
isn't worth organising a low paid casual worker.If the job is a simple
menial one this is not cost effective, because I'm obviously looking for
the hourly rate that I would otherwise get on a more demanding job.

Bill

Brian Gaff

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Nov 27, 2012, 10:57:31 AM11/27/12
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Yes but one made worse by all the expenditure many businesses have to bear
that really could be a lot less with less red tape.

Brian

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stuart noble

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Nov 27, 2012, 11:38:42 AM11/27/12
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As an electrician I guess it must be difficult finding a domestic job
that isn't 75% dogsbody work

Dave Plowman (News)

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Nov 27, 2012, 11:38:18 AM11/27/12
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In article <k92nte$h4p$1...@dont-email.me>,
Brian Gaff <Bri...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes but one made worse by all the expenditure many businesses have to
> bear that really could be a lot less with less red tape.

That's one problem - it had to be changed to brown.

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ARW

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Nov 27, 2012, 1:25:24 PM11/27/12
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Ł300 would be about right for a CU swap when you have to do all the tests
and need certs etc. All repairs and fault finding are extra to the Ł300 (as
you know there are massive variations in such a job)

However it seems that in this case a 16th edition regs CU is about to be
highered or lowered by a metre or so and that the 17th edition regs with
regarding RCD protecion are going to be slightly ignored:-)


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Bill Wright

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Nov 27, 2012, 2:46:21 PM11/27/12
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Yes, well with us a lot of jobs comprise a vast amount of cable laying,
which we try to foist on the electricians, and the actually electronic
gubbins which we do. Obviously I'm not talking about domestic jobs.

Bill

ARW

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Nov 27, 2012, 3:04:16 PM11/27/12
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And we still have some1st year apprentices to do that work for you:-)

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