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AnthonyL
May 14, 2015, 5:00:20 AM5/14/15
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I'm in an old (1860) semi-detached cottage and hear when the neighbour
has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
The water pipe from the mains is shared but I'm not conscious of
similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
use.
Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
Thanks
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AnthonyL
has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
The water pipe from the mains is shared but I'm not conscious of
similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
use.
Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
Thanks
--
AnthonyL
EricP
May 14, 2015, 5:23:47 AM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 09:00:18 GMT, nos...@please.invalid (AnthonyL)
wrote:
The sound is probably going straight up through their ceiling,
reflecting off the roof and down into your bedroom. Made worse by the
night quiet.
Is there a solid dividing wall in the roof space, or is it open as was
popular at the time of building?
(Assuming all are on the upper floor)
wrote:
reflecting off the roof and down into your bedroom. Made worse by the
night quiet.
Is there a solid dividing wall in the roof space, or is it open as was
popular at the time of building?
(Assuming all are on the upper floor)
Chris French
May 14, 2015, 6:00:03 AM5/14/15
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In message <55546324...@news.eternal-september.org>, AnthonyL
<nos...@please.invalid> writes
IME (we have two mains incomers, separated by maybe10-15 m of
underground pipe). We get noise in the pipe of one, when the is draw on
the other one (but not the other way round)
If it coming through the pipe it's more a hissing/water in pipes kind of
noise as opposed to actually hearing water trickling if you are hearing
the sound directly.
If is a tricking/running water sound it is maybe coiming through the
rood space - or some sort of gap in the wall?
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Chris French
<nos...@please.invalid> writes
underground pipe). We get noise in the pipe of one, when the is draw on
the other one (but not the other way round)
If it coming through the pipe it's more a hissing/water in pipes kind of
noise as opposed to actually hearing water trickling if you are hearing
the sound directly.
If is a tricking/running water sound it is maybe coiming through the
rood space - or some sort of gap in the wall?
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Chris French
Peter Parry
May 14, 2015, 6:02:38 AM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:23:28 +0100, EricP <er...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
>>Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
>>or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
Ask your neighbour if they mind you fitting a low noise filling device
to their attic tank such as
<http://www.fluidmasteruk.com/our-products/pro-series/pro-side-entry-fill-valve-with-heavy-duty-brass-shank.html>
wrote:
>>Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
>>or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
to their attic tank such as
<http://www.fluidmasteruk.com/our-products/pro-series/pro-side-entry-fill-valve-with-heavy-duty-brass-shank.html>
AnthonyL
May 14, 2015, 7:46:37 AM5/14/15
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though I wouldn't say to sound proofing standards. Both bathrooms are
upstairs though mine is on the outer wall and hers is on the inner
wall adjacent to the spare bedroom.
I'm not too sure of their exact plumbing - I know the last neighbour
put in a header tank for the shower, mine is mains fed, but there has
always been some noise even before that which I'm fairly sure arises
after the toilet has been flushed.
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AnthonyL
AnthonyL
May 14, 2015, 7:53:11 AM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 11:02:31 +0100, Peter Parry <pe...@wpp.ltd.uk>
wrote:
I'm fairly sure the noise is associated with the mains fed toilet
cistern in the upstairs bathroom so I don't think the attic comes into
it. Does this device just fit at the inlet and not play any part in
the cistern action?
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AnthonyL
wrote:
cistern in the upstairs bathroom so I don't think the attic comes into
it. Does this device just fit at the inlet and not play any part in
the cistern action?
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AnthonyL
AnthonyL
May 14, 2015, 7:57:19 AM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 10:52:49 +0100, Chris French
<new...@familyfrench.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <55546324...@news.eternal-september.org>, AnthonyL
><nos...@please.invalid> writes
>>I'm in an old (1860) semi-detached cottage and hear when the neighbour
>>has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
>>refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
>>
>>The water pipe from the mains is shared but I'm not conscious of
>>similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
>>use.
>>
>>Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
>>or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
>>
>IME (we have two mains incomers, separated by maybe10-15 m of
>underground pipe). We get noise in the pipe of one, when the is draw on
>the other one (but not the other way round)
>
>If it coming through the pipe it's more a hissing/water in pipes kind of
>noise as opposed to actually hearing water trickling if you are hearing
>the sound directly.
>
It's a hissing/white noise type of thing we seems to slowly taper off
<new...@familyfrench.co.uk> wrote:
>In message <55546324...@news.eternal-september.org>, AnthonyL
><nos...@please.invalid> writes
>>I'm in an old (1860) semi-detached cottage and hear when the neighbour
>>has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
>>refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
>>
>>The water pipe from the mains is shared but I'm not conscious of
>>similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
>>use.
>>
>>Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
>>or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
>>
>IME (we have two mains incomers, separated by maybe10-15 m of
>underground pipe). We get noise in the pipe of one, when the is draw on
>the other one (but not the other way round)
>
>If it coming through the pipe it's more a hissing/water in pipes kind of
>noise as opposed to actually hearing water trickling if you are hearing
>the sound directly.
>
in the time scale that one expects a toilet cistern to fill.
It feels as if the sound is being carried through our own water pipes.
I don't know if our sounds are reciprocated and unfortunately I don't
get on with said neighbour (f) who seems to attract men friends who
need the loo half the night.
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AnthonyL
RobertL
May 14, 2015, 8:11:14 AM5/14/15
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presumably it has always done this, it's just that now it is annoying because it happens at night.
if it is turbulence noise that is being conducted through all the pipework you might able to fix it with one of those tiny accumulators designed to stop waterhammer. They are easy to fit - you'd put it on theincoming water main.
If the sound is conducted through the bathroom wall you could add a sound proof that wall (by adding a stud wall next to, but not touching, the party wall.
Robert
Jim GM4DHJ ...
May 14, 2015, 8:31:14 AM5/14/15
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Think yourself lucky it is not plop plop noises from the bathroom ......
AnthonyL
May 14, 2015, 8:44:07 AM5/14/15
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 05:11:11 -0700 (PDT), RobertL
<rober...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:00:20 AM UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
>> I'm in an old (1860) semi-detached cottage and hear when the neighbour
>> has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
>> refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
>>=20
<rober...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 10:00:20 AM UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
>> I'm in an old (1860) semi-detached cottage and hear when the neighbour
>> has water running in the bathroom - I think it is when the cistern is
>> refilling. It is quite annoying at 2am.
>> The water pipe from the mains is shared but I'm not conscious of
>> similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
>> use.
>>=20
>> similar sounds during the day when I guess the kitchen taps must be in
>> use.
>> Anything to be done? Is it likely that I'm hearing the sound direct
>> or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
>=20
>> or through our water pipes? How do I ascertain?
>
>If it were me I would spend some time trying to hear where the sound is com=
>ing from. Does it come though the wall (perhaps from pipes that are clamp=
>ed to the wall) or does it come in with the water supply to the OP's house=
>. During the day it will be hard to hear it so you'll need to get up at n=
>ight when someone has flushed the loo next door.
>
I've tried - it is very indeterminable. We only have a two up two
>
down + upstairs bathroom and when it is quiet the noise can be heard
from any room.
>presumably it has always done this, it's just that now it is annoying becau=
>se it happens at night.
I think it got worse when the last neighbour replaced their old
clogged up mains inlet tap.
>
>if it is turbulence noise that is being conducted through all the pipework =
>you might able to fix it with one of those tiny accumulators designed to st=
>op waterhammer. They are easy to fit - you'd put it on theincoming water m=
>ain.
>
I just would have expected to be more conscious of kitchen
taps/washing machine noises if that was the case. (ah there it goes
just as I write - and I'm downstairs ~ 90secs).
>If the sound is conducted through the bathroom wall you could add a sound p=
>roof that wall (by adding a stud wall next to, but not touching, the party =
>wall.
>
The rooms are small enough as it is. :(
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AnthonyL
DJC
May 14, 2015, 8:52:28 AM5/14/15
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wall and the pipes attached to that wall. Probably more noticeable at
2am because there is less background noise and also higher water
pressure as less is being used.
Brian-Gaff
May 14, 2015, 10:42:44 AM5/14/15
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Does the toilet fill from the loft tank or from mains water?
I know mine is fed from the loft, and has the wrong size valve hole so it
trickles for about a quarter of an hour and sounds just like some kind of
babbling brook. I know fit the correct valve...
Brian
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I know mine is fed from the loft, and has the wrong size valve hole so it
trickles for about a quarter of an hour and sounds just like some kind of
babbling brook. I know fit the correct valve...
Brian
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DerbyBorn
May 14, 2015, 11:33:09 AM5/14/15
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DJC <d...@news.invalid> wrote in news:mj25o6$n36$1...@dont-email.me:
I have a very noisy toilet since I fitted a Isolation Valve. I guess I
should have bought a full-bore one.
should have bought a full-bore one.
Harry Bloomfield
May 14, 2015, 11:41:19 AM5/14/15
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AnthonyL explained on 14/05/2015 :
A stick, rod, long screwdriver or similar, pushed against your ear and
the cold water pipe, would let you know if the pipe were generating the
noise.
Listening in your loft space would tell you if it were the splashing
from the tank itself, you could hear. If it is, you could maybe ask
your neighbour to fit a contraption to silence the filling splash.
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the cold water pipe, would let you know if the pipe were generating the
noise.
Listening in your loft space would tell you if it were the splashing
from the tank itself, you could hear. If it is, you could maybe ask
your neighbour to fit a contraption to silence the filling splash.
--
Regards,
Harry (M1BYT) (L)
http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk
TheChief
May 14, 2015, 3:46:20 PM5/14/15
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nos...@please.invalid (AnthonyL) Wrote in message:
You say it got worse when they replaced the mains inlet tap. Is
this indoor or outdoor?
If the previous valve was throttling the flow, then the
replacement may well have a clearer bore or have been opened more
fully. This would give rise to more pipe noise due to water
velocity.
If the valve replaced was outdoor, then wait till they go out and
turn it down! Close it completely counting the number of turns ,
then open to maybe 2\3 of previous. Gradually turn down till
noise is acceptable so they don't notice sudden changes. If they
do notice, claim you've had similar problem and blame
kids!
Phil
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this indoor or outdoor?
If the previous valve was throttling the flow, then the
replacement may well have a clearer bore or have been opened more
fully. This would give rise to more pipe noise due to water
velocity.
If the valve replaced was outdoor, then wait till they go out and
turn it down! Close it completely counting the number of turns ,
then open to maybe 2\3 of previous. Gradually turn down till
noise is acceptable so they don't notice sudden changes. If they
do notice, claim you've had similar problem and blame
kids!
Phil
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Ash Burton
May 15, 2015, 6:20:30 AM5/15/15
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solution for you is earplugs.
It would be the cheapest and most convenient solution given the sporadic
nature of the problem.
You only have to put them in when the noise occurs.
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RobertL
May 15, 2015, 10:40:57 AM5/15/15
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 1:44:07 PM UTC+1, AnthonyL wrote:
> >if it is turbulence noise that is being conducted through all the pipework =
> >you might able to fix it with one of those tiny accumulators designed to st=
> >op waterhammer. They are easy to fit - you'd put it on th incoming water m=
> >if it is turbulence noise that is being conducted through all the pipework =
> >you might able to fix it with one of those tiny accumulators designed to st=
> >ain.
> >
>
> I just would have expected to be more conscious of kitchen
> taps/washing machine noises if that was the case. (ah there it goes
> just as I write - and I'm downstairs ~ 90secs).
Could it be that since they replaced their clogged main inlet tap the water flow rates have increased and are not choked at the loo inlet, leading to turbulence there.
> >
>
> I just would have expected to be more conscious of kitchen
> taps/washing machine noises if that was the case. (ah there it goes
> just as I write - and I'm downstairs ~ 90secs).
Sneak out in the night and secretly turn down their inlet tap to reduce the flow (assuming it's in the street). Maybe they won't notice.
Robert
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